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I have been using Wolf's GB ROM for 10 days now.
It is not only really smoother than stock SE GB rom, but also so stable. Really, it was a child's play for me to install it (actually it was also my first custom ROM) just like using a stock rom..
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I'm happy with this rom at the moment but i want to try a couple more roms. I'm a little bit obsessed about smoothness of the phone.
Which one would you chose as the smoothest if you have to?
Please answer the poll if you have tried at least two of them..
Further reviews, ups and downs and advices are accepted..
1. Wolfs TW Gingerbread ROM
2. Blue Sparks
3. VMOD V5
4. ThGo2
5. Cyanogenmod
First of all, you forgot T.E.A.M. ROM in the poll.
phobias1903 said:
Really, it was a child's play for me to install it (actually it was also my first custom ROM) just like using a stock rom..
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That's the case with all custom ROMs, installing them is as simple as flashing one or two zips in recovery.
I find that installing a custom ROM is actually simpler than flashing stock with SEUS/PC Companion/FlashTool.
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I'm happy with this rom at the moment but i want to try a couple more roms. I'm a little bit obsessed about smoothness of the phone.
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In my humble opinion, which is based on experience since I myself am working on tweaking stock SE ROM for the past 4 months or so, a stock-based ROM is, at the end of the day, a modified but still stock ROM.
Granted there are the popular "tweaks" which are basically scripts that run on startup to optimise mostly the internal Android task killer and/or some kernel parameters, etc. The very core of the ROM, in most, if not all, cases remains the same. That way, my advice is to find a ROM that combines an acceptable by your personal taste level of "smoothness" (which is a purely relevant term, as it cannot be measured accurately), graphical enviroment and features.
Each user will probably give you a different answer because user experience may differ due to countless factors (apps installed, general way and purpose of using the phone). Gamers would mostly prefer a "stripped" ROM with minimal apps to leave them with space and memory for intense gaming. IMers (people using the phone mainly to communicate by mail, SMS, instant-messaging) will most of the times not notice performance improvements between ROMs because said apps are generally light-weight.
For a totally different experience, for example, Cyanogen could very well be your answer.
It is by default much smoother to SE ROMs, alas there might be things missing or not working at all, along with certain inconveniences.
So, it all comes down to what you want to do with your phone and what you feel is better. As with everything in life, obsession is never a good thing. At the end of the day, you want to be using your phone and not flashing it and setting it up from scratch every other day, right? And, let me say, that a poll will never help you as much as flashing and using the ROMs yourself.
Good luck!
Agreed...
cyanogen is great because it uses minimal system resources. It is a nice light, basic alternative, and therefore is quite fast.
As usual Iris explained it so well that a further answer isn´t really neccesary
Just a few summarised words; When you prefer a ROm where everything is working choose a ROM based on stock because just there everything is working especially the camera. Just there you have the Sony Ericcson camera app where you have features that aren´t available in real Custom ROMS.
In this case I can recommend you T.E.A.M Rom. It is very fast, beautiful and the support is awesome. But yeah....Iris mentioned that, too
When your priority isn´t the camera but best battery life and smoothness I can recommend you Tatsuo´s CM7 ROM running with his own kernel.
And where is MIUI? I happy with this ROM
iridaki said:
First of all, you forgot T.E.A.M. ROM in the poll.
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Definitely!
iridaki said:
At the end of the day, you want to be using your phone and not flashing it and setting it up from scratch every other day, right?
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Uhm, ... wrong. I want to flash and set it up every other day, sometimes even 2-3 times a day
Admitted, my desire to flash is greatly reduced since I use T.E.A.M ROM. But FXP046 will be a definite go for me and hell, I LOVE to play with many different ROMs. I have to admit that I reduced the apps I always install to a minimum and only install more apps if I plan to stay a little longer (--> T.E.A.M).
So, seeing it from this point of view, I make the worst out of my smartphone because I rarely can use its full potential. But who cares, flashing is fun
Hi to all, i premise that i love stock look and i want my GNote look like a GNote, not another phone, so i'm not intersted to roms with too much visual mods.
I come from a Galaxy S2 from day1 and i flashed it with many many roms and every time i flashed new rom it was full of modded apk and tricks very usefull. Now i switched to a Note and i'm very happy with it but after tried some cooked roms i came to the conclusion that IN MY OPINION no roms can offer more than a rooted stock rom maybe with jkay mods and unused apps removed or freezed with Titanium. Why i say this? Simply because latest Notes cooked Rom doesn't offer what is important for me and i think for other users: browser with user agent in settings, phone without ascending ringtone and noise filter off by default etc. In major cooked rom i read in description: tweaked this tweaked that but i see no real speed improvement in comparison to a (rooted) stock rom where all GNote app works and not like i read in cooked rom's comment: "this app doesnt work properly, my phone suffer random reboots, that app give me fc, after some day my phone become laggy etc. So, after tried many cooked roms now i think that with a rooted odexed kl4 with jkay mod my phone isn't less smooth than a "cooked rom equipped" one except for quadrant or other benchmarks results that are only numbers and doesn't give you a real result of how smooth is your device in daily use.
With these considerations i don't want to offend nobody and developer's hard work (i'm not developer and i admire their ability) i want only know if i'm the only one to think that and (if not) to advise developers about what users would like to see in future cooked rom.
Let me know what you think and before to say you don't agree with me try stock kl4 to compare.
That's what I think also, and that's what I did.
Stock la4 with jkay mod and removed a **** load of built in apps with titanium.
My phone flies and is smooth as butter, battery life awesome, no bugs, no crashes, nothing wrong.
Pure experience...
I miss roms like the ones developed by RMK40 for the HTC Desire Z, they were pure stock and just enhanced with tweaks needed to make them perfect, no frankeinstein bizarre stuff.
When I read things like: "libraries from ICS" I'm like, WTF !!!
It's like fitting your car with parts from another car...
It might be a little faster, but could be much less reliable.
Anyway, I recognise those devs are very talented, as there is no way I could do it myself, but it's just against my religion to mix libraries from different systems.
Like the sony bravia mod... what a POS !!!
There are only two good reasons to use a custom ROM for me: Power Menu and latest firmware. So I use Sheep ROM, the least modded one.
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There are only two good reasons to use a custom ROM for me: Power Menu and latest firmware. So I use Sheep ROM, the least modded one.
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Power menu is also customizable with jkay on stock kl4 i also use it
(I hitted "thanks" instead of "quote" in your post )
Same here l, I love Stock looks and feels, I always stay away from ROMs that have there own graphics in, like RocketROM. I am using Cassie LA3 V6.
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I'm getting my Nexus 4 in about a week and couldn't be more excited.. I used to use an old Motorola Defy on which I ran a slightly buggy CM10 ROM, which was anyday better than the Froyo with MotoBlur it came with. So it made sense to run CM10.
A friend of mine who recently bought a One X decided to flash custom ROMs and despite trying a few ROMs, he claimed that the original Sense ROM was the smoothest. Is that complete bull****? I mean, does the stock N4 ROM work the best compared to the custom ones on here?
And considering the fact that the next version of Android may be around the corner, should I just stick with the stock ROM and wait for an OTA update?
I just want the smoothest experience possible. Not looking for huge list of customizations or anything.
Depends on what you want. If you want slightly better battery life or fancy having more options to tweak as in hardware then a custom rom is the way to go. If you're happy with stock then stay stock. I've unlocked, and rooted my N4 but have kept the stock rom for now. It's just nice being rooted to allow you to back up your apps + DATA which you can't fully do when your unrooted. Plus once your unlocked your bootloader and rooted the world is your oyster, so to speak. At least maybe try rooting and a custom rom or two then if you don't see any real advantage you can always go back to stock rom, unroot then lock your device and have it back to factory default. That way you'll get your OTA updates once more.
My reasons for custom rom
- need full screen for games
- 2g/3G toggles
- custom colors
- ability to under volt etc
- themes
And don't compare custom roms between nexus devices and others
They are lot stable and fully Aosp supported
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first i would say stock rom runs super smooth, super responsive
but like the previous post, i do like the FULL SCREEN FEATURE for games and for anything else you would want more screen real estate for ex, web browsing, movies, or to just have a different sort of UI with no nav or status bar and just pie
but then again pie is just a launcher, but you would need a custom rom for full screen, nav and status bar customization
Kernels are something else, ive been using franco kernel since day 1 for all my devices (nexus 4,7,10) super stable and very CONSISTENT with me and by that i mean i never run into random problems with my phone its always running the same.
its all about personal preference.
A lot of people say there is no point in using custom ROMs on a nexus. But I disagree. Custom ROMs give you the stock ASOP experience that you want in addition to extra features that make it so much better. I could not live without all the features CyanogenMod offers; they have become so useful and convenient that it would be hard to stick with stock Android. For example, customizable notification LED, screen off music controls, tweakable lock screen, modifying quick setting toggles, expanded desktop, call blacklist etc.
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I think custom ROMs and kernels are the only way to go.
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I Am Marino said:
I think custom ROMs and kernels are the only way to go.
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This. I mean Google does a good job already with the stock ROM/Kernel (way better than OEM's and their skinned garbage and slow updates), but custom Kernels and ROMs take it further.
Stock on a Nexus? I don't know why anyone would miss out on all that custom loveliness.
At the very least unlock the boot loader and root it as soon as you get it to save the bother later of backing up all your data.
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I did it specifically for LTE. The customizations are just a nice bonus.
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The Nexus devices are the ones which made more sense to get Custom ROMS, because they are open source.
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The Nexus devices are the ones which made more sense to get Custom ROMS, because they are open source.
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Most would argue that OEM skinned devices make more sense to have custom ROM's/Kernels due to all the bloatware typically installed, and lack of quick system updates. Nexus devices in-particular have a clean stock Android experience, and fast updates straight from Google.
Custom ROM's and Kernels just happen to be far easier on Nexus devices since they're AOSP supported and have Kernel sources directly available.
You must be a Happy Flasher to enjoy this developer device!
The full screen mode might be worth the jump. Didn't know stock didn't have the feature. I've seen a little bit of that PIE controls thing. Not sure if it's actually that user friendly, but I might give PA a shot.
My only gripe is with the fact that, since the rumored 4.3 is around the corner, I might have to go through the process of putting stock back for the OTA update. If it's coming by next month, I might just keep it stock anyway.
Either way, thanks for your replies! Appreciate it.. My previous phone's threads weren't anywhere as active as it is on here
Looking forward to my nexus! (Getting it in less than a week now!)
Disclaimer: I know what is the best for me and what I want to use. Don't flame me for the title, first read it please.
Let's say we have two options:
1. Stock ROM with applications that add functionality and possibly run in the background, e.g. Power Toggles or Lightflow,
2. Custom ROM with built-in tweaks, like a quick-settings mod or some kind of LED customization.
So, my question is: which is better in terms of everything (available RAM, battery, etc)? Stock software with running apps or custom built-ROM with modifications to the source files? Or are they equal basically? I'd vote for option 2, but honestly, I have no idea, that's why I'm asking. Technical details are welcomed as well as personal opinions.
Pipusz said:
Disclaimer: I know what is the best for me and what I want to use. Don't flame me for the title, first read it please.
Let's say we have two options:
1. Stock ROM with applications that add functionality and possibly run in the background, e.g. Power Toggles or Lightflow,
2. Custom ROM with built-in tweaks, like a quick-settings mod or some kind of LED customization.
So, my question is: which is better in terms of everything (available RAM, battery, etc)? Stock software with running apps or custom built-ROM with modifications to the source files? Or are they equal basically? I'd vote for option 2, but honestly, I have no idea, that's why I'm asking. Technical details are welcomed as well as personal opinions.
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When speaking of Nexus device, there is no real difference between custom and stock in terms of official apps and bloatware, because of its vanilla (pure android) nature.
The main difference is the ability to control and modify more sides of your ROM. This can easily lead to better performance, battery, and so on because you can customize it by your needs and use.
The only reason, IMO, to stay on stock is if you want automatic updates, remain warrenty Etc. In terms of performance and such it is recommended to flash a custom ROM.
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Why don't you just give it a try? They're free. Not like you can't go back.
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Why don't you just give it a try? They're free. Not like you can't go back.
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Meh, I'm happy with my current ROM, not trying anything. Just had too much time on the train to wonder
I take it you are speaking of approach. I prefer the first. Sure you can get more out of a custom rom, but it comes all at one time in a single flash and you might get things you don't want. I like customizing by installing apks, flashing mods, and applying themes. It is more enjoyable this way and I like the learning involved. Of course, this doesn't mean that I don't flash a custom rom now and then.
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I take it you are speaking of approach. I prefer the first. Sure you can get more out of a custom rom, but it comes all at one time in a single flash and you might get things you don't want. I like customizing by installing apks, flashing mods, and applying themes. It is more enjoyable this way and I like the learning involved. Of course, this doesn't mean that I don't flash a custom rom now and then.
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It is true that custom ROM's bring things that maybe you don't want, but that's why we should search for the correct ROM. In my case, I hate all the Hybrid stuff, so I keep myself far away from ROM's with this, but on the other hand I like Halo and Expanded Desktop. These 3 features are from PA, but I know I don't want this. What should I do?. Look for ROM with these 2. In my case, was Carbon, also because it has AOKP Ribbons which I find pretty interesting.
I think there are not many options about mods and customizations in stock. There is a whole world of possibilities about apps, but certain things cannot be done with stock, so I prefer most of the time custom ROM. Right now I'm on pure AOSP 4.3 and I'm really enjoying the pure Android experience, although I miss some of the modifications of custom ROM's.
@Pipusz
I think myself: why bother to get like 10 apps to make something, when you can have them as part of system?.
Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.
@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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It's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
jetbruceli said:
Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.
Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.