Stock vs custom - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I am just looking for some opinions here. I keep on debating if I should just flash a stock Rom and keep it. For the first time in ages I feel like I have a device that's pretty much perfect out of the box, other than there being no stock browser lol...
I tried a couple of built from source ROMs, am on sr1 right now with matrix kernel. And while all of the additions custom ROMs provide are neat, I prefer stock feel more.
For some reason, to me, odexed stock ROM feels snappier than anything I've tried that's custom, and that's the only one that hulu app actually works on. I don't know if this is true, but I also seem to be getting much better data, I'm not sure if kernel has anything to do with connectivity, or ROM... But... Sr1 has few options to optimize data connectivity, which dont seem to actually help.
Anyways, some places I go my data would drop down to edge for awhile, or I would lose reception all together, is really random and
Odd because I know I've never had that issue before. I then reverted to stock, and issue went away.
Anyways, I guess my question is... Do all of the features and claims of better performance and network connectivity that are listed in many ROMs true? Or is stock odexed ROM is still going to be better when it comes to that? I don't mean to call devs liars or anything, I'm just curious as to compare your guys thoughts.
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A few hours ago I left stock for code fire sr1, its noticeably faster than stock imho. Its close to stock and has many features that make it better than stock overall. The battery drain so far is better than stock which is another plus btw. Also I don't have any network issues but I heard T-Mobile is rearming the towers so their service has been odd lately.
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I like both custom and the stock ROM. I used the stock ROM since I got the phone, but just recently switched to CM10.1. I like the added features CM10.1 brings. It just boils down to personal preference. More and more ROMs are going to start showing up, and when that happens you're decision on staying on the stock ROM might change.
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I prefer custom kernels. It brings more benefits (faster speed, better battery life, more stable in general, etc ..) with much less annoyance (well, you know, Nandroid backup, Titanium backup, SMS backup, flash ROM, restores all of the settings, etc.)
Flashing ROM is fun, and the added features is nice, but until ROMs are more stable, I won't jump on the band wagon.

Thanks guys!
Do kernels effect signal at all? When I ran sr1 with Franco kernel, I really liked the kernel, except for data being flaky, matrix one seemed to have been better with it. Am I totally crazy, or do kernels make a difference?
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air2k57 said:
Thanks guys!
Do kernels effect signal at all? When I ran sr1 with Franco kernel, I really liked the kernel, except for data being flaky, matrix one seemed to have been better with it. Am I totally crazy, or do kernels make a difference?
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Only WiFi signal. Kernels do not touch cellular data.

I'm using SR1 with Franco, it works beautifully with no signal issues.
Much faster than stock Odexed in my experience as well :good: It all depends on if you appreciate the added feature set or not. There is no setting or magic switch here that makes a rom instantly faster. It's all placebo with a little bit of theory and actual performance behind it.

I prefer stock ..I was using Task and Ktoonz ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S3 and there always was problems with bugs and the phone rebooting and not decent battery life..so that has me on edge with roms. But I tried using Nova Prime and then decided to delete that and try stock launcher and stock just feels smoother overall.
Only thing I don't like completely running stock is I can't delete the Google search widget and it takes up every home screen.
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Right now I'm stock, rooted with the franco kernel I rooted to try to improve battery life.
The stock rom is perfectly acceptable, but I'll probably end up loading a custom rom for small changes that I like on my device
like battery percentages in the status bar. Custom roms add nice little options like that which google doesn't provide with a stock rom.

ztmike said:
I prefer stock ..I was using Task and Ktoonz ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S3 and there always was problems with bugs and the phone rebooting and not decent battery life..so that has me on edge with roms. But I tried using Nova Prime and then decided to delete that and try stock launcher and stock just feels smoother overall.
Only thing I don't like completely running stock is I can't delete the Google search widget and it takes up every home screen.
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Why not get apex launcher, make it look like stock, but get rid of the bar. That's what I do .
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air2k57 said:
Why not get apex launcher, make it look like stock, but get rid of the bar. That's what I do .
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I tried using stock, lasted half a day when I got pissed that the Quick Settings open the menu rather than toggle and some small things like lack of AM/PM and no battery percentage and changing brightness with the status bar. Also the Quick Reply from CM is one my favorite features ever which is why I don't just mod stock.

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I tried using stock, lasted half a day when I got pissed that the Quick Settings open the menu rather than toggle and some small things like lack of AM/PM and no battery percentage and changing brightness with the status bar. Also the Quick Reply from CM is one my favorite features ever which is why I don't just mod stock.
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I really do like quick reply, toggles and stock browser that comes with custom ROMs. My problem is that I keep on jumping back and forth between stock and sr1, I have really odd data issues on sr1, don't get why...
Like even if I don't change any data settings at all, my data connection would still switch from 3g to hspa without issues, but it is way slow... Running speed test gets me about 200-300kbps in some areas, reboot fixes the issues right away. Now, running stock, I get about 4-7mbps in those exact same spots I have issues on sr1, I really do not understand what is causing this. The only thing I could think of is that T-Mobile APN on stock is a little different than what sr1 has?
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My Nexus 4 would bore me if I only used stock rom. The N4 is made for custom roms and kernels. And they offer so much more than stock. And isn't Android all about customising / tweaking? Maybe you wanna wait until a stable custom rom is out, but stock will not let you have as much fun.

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To rom or not to rom

That is the question.
Is it worth installing CM7 on a nexus S or is it better to just leave it as stock gingerbread (if you dont need the small amount of extra features)?
Also how would one go about 'formatting' a nexus S?
I bought the nexus s for the pure Google experience so I don't see a reason for installing a rom.
If I want another rom ill bit a better handset with better specs and build quality.
My 2 cents.
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You can have stock Gingerbread with CM7, you just have to reinstall the Launcher2.apk and remove (or just dont use) ADW Launcher.
I prefer custom ROMs/Kernels because they feel more snappy than completely stock.
I was using CM7 nighties since I got it. I'm not using stock rooted 2.3.3 rom and I don't see myself going back to nighties anytime soon.
All my other android phone I couldn't use without cm6/7. I lived for the stock Android. Now that this phone is 100% stock out of the box, I haven't had a reason to flash cm7 yet. I've had little to no problems and im satisfied with the stock rom.
Still gotta root though.
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I dib and dabble just to try but I always come back to stock
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CM7 is still a bit unstable, I had it for 2 days and the phone rebooted at least 6 times(and 2 of those times it was stuck, had to pull the batteries out). Also, if you do use the RC1, don't volunteer to provide anonymous usage info as it makes it even more unstable.
I would recommend going with Kimera. Much more stable, very lite (ofc, that means you have to install a few more apps then usual).
The Nexus S with 2.3.x is the first phone I've not fell any compulsion to use a custom rom, even CM. CM7 might be interesting to me once it's out as an official release build, but I'm not sure even then. With previous phones I wouldn't consider running stock at all once the big boys brought their roms out for them, but Android 2.3.3 with Launcher2 is pretty darn good in my opinion.
Same for custom kernels, sort of. I didn't feel the need for one, but I have tried netarchy to get the Voodoo enhancements. I'm currently stock kernel, but have just downloaded the latest 2.3.3 netarchy to give it a whirl again.
there really is no reason to not use custom ROM. for example when cyanogen 7 gets finalized, it includes DSP audio manager boost, 720p video camera with enhanced settings, etc. those are crucial functions that work spectacularly. since its free, there's no reason to avoid those and use stock shen it increases functionality at no cost.
im running cm7 and i love it
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Paul's modaco rom is pretty stock look and feel but has 3G sip and a few small other tweaks. I like it. Can't really tell the difference from stock.
I can only speak from my limited experience, having ditched my Milestone for the Nexus. Having the option to put a custom ROM on the phone was enticing, even though I had no problem with stock ROM. I used ROM Manager, and did the no-loss root method, made a backup, and then did wipe and installed CM7 RC1.
Things I liked: power control widgets in status bar. The fact it introduced me to ADW Launcher and the vast library of themes on the market (I've been happy using LauncherPro so hadn't got to ADW yet). The smaller, more columns app drawer. I liked the fact it went about downloading all the apps I had I wiped. Overall it was a very smooth intro to custom ROMs.
Things I didn't like: apps placed in the dock would lose their custom icon (don't know if this was ADW or CM7's fault). Car home didn't work. Knowing that 2.3.3 will be available OTA soon and my phone wont get it while I am non-stock.
I kept using CM7 for about 5 days and had no crashes, but went back to stock today as none of the other features are of particular interest. Having power control in notifications area is nice, but it's not that much harder just to use widgetsoid and place them on a home screen (which is what I always do).
Anyway, horses for courses. Obviously some love it, but me I was meh. I have no problem with the speed and smoothness of stock, and didn't notice any increase when using CM7.

Thinking about going back to stock AOSP rom

The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Stock 2.3.4 is great stability wise and has tremendous battery life.
Iv been running zuluzulu for about a week now and it flies. Great battery life although I am a heavy user. I haven't experienced random reboots at all with it. Also if you like the notification power widget from cm7 its built into zuluzulu.
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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Agreed. AdamG's Oxygen Rom is my favourite right now. It's AOSP GRJ22 with some of the great features from CyanogenMOD built in (status bar power widget, improved widget picker, etc) and fantastic battery life!
A stable cm 7.1 (2.34) will be out very soon. No worries
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
chubb16 said:
I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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You can add that stuff with Widget Locker.
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
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I agree in general, but of course there are exception. When I had an HTC Evo 4G, I ended up running CM6 as my daily and it was exceptionally stable. At least as good as stock HTC Sense. Unfortunately when Gingerbread came around, that changed, and CM7 was not in the same ballpark.
On my Nexus, though... yeah I run stock ROM. CM7 is cool and if I had any other device (that came with a carrier OS and not pure Android), I would dump that shiz and rock CM7 for sure. But plain pure stock Android developed by a team of amazing developers specifically for this device, that's just not going to be beat
Hah. Google's "official" code isn't really better then what rom devs provide if they know what they're doing. The way google keeps pushing buggy code without giving a s*** is really disappointing. They release updates and then they stop caring about it. As some pointed out the gb update brought call delay and broke aac support, it really seems like they don't even do some basic testing before releasing a new version (which even the crappiest developer on the block generally does). On top of that, there is still no support at all for gpu acceleration in the ui, which is kinda retarded. Day after day i'm getting more and more disappointed about google dev team's job, they don't really deserve half the respect that many geeks keep tributing them.
Stock vs Custom rom on the NS was something I always thought about too! I only ran stock for a few hours because I immediately flashed a new rom when I got my phone LOL But what I can remember from the stock 2.3.4 was that it was fast, faster than any phone I've ever had. But there are so many features that are incorporated in custom roms and it's really hard to forgo these things.
Anyone out there who has used both stock 2.3.4 and oxygen who can attest to better battery life and performance? I am curious as well.
The last phone I used for a long time running stock was my N1 but after flashing CM6 I never really looked back. Speed increase was very noticeable and battery life was better. This is the reason why I never really bothered to use stock software for my next phones.
well, to be honest, i kinda regret to be flashed customs. Stock is so stable and has so good battery life, but now i can't live without cm7 features, just can't...
it's sad story that shows that you can't miss what you don't know! =oP
I agree for the most part, stock gb is pretty good. Using Oxygen now, and the stability and speed from stock + some nice features makes it a good choice!
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Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
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Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
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In the case of Oxygen not much difference but I believe CM pretty much guts the framework and replaces it with their own heavily modded version.
does facebook sync work on all ASOP roms? or is it just CM7?
Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
dsixda said:
Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
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tested right now and couldn't notice... if there is any, it's less than 1sec!

Just ordered N4

Hey I just ordered my nexus 4. Just a quick question, which custom rom most resembles the stock one that the n4 comes with but with better tweaks and battery life?
Coming from an s3 and I've always used a touchwiz based custom rom.
So I would like to stay with the rom that most is similar to the one the n4 comes with. Ty
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Probably Primerunner under Nexus 4 Android Development. Seems pretty stock but with some enhancements.
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MiNCO v6 ROM resembles the stock ROM. No customizations.
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All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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zephiK said:
All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Minco
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Don't want to create new thread so will ask here as I'm also coming from S3...
Are the any major bugs with CM rom? With the S3, Picassa sync and Bluetooth didn't work...I'm assuming with the N4 everything should be more or less 100%?
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Yeah that makes sense... Thanks.
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Crisisx1 said:
I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
Crisisx1 said:
Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
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Quick battery drain. Hmmmm, you will probably notice that battery won't be good until at least 2-3 charge cycles. Why?
1. You just got the phone, obviously you're going to be playing with the phone. Downloading apps, changing settings, setting up your home screen etc.
2. It takes time for the phone to get its charging cycle.
3. Stock kernel has the msm wakelock. Fixed in a future OTA.
Screen looks great. I don't have any problems. But yes you are right, custom kernel does fix #3 and you can alter your colors until it satisfy your eyes. Stock values are good enough for me. It looks A LOT better than Samsung's Super AMOLED, I came from a Galaxy Nexus.

Custom roms, but why?

So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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mcarbaja said:
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Actually I have gotten way better battery life on stock but that's just me
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Customization is key for a lot of people who try custom ROMs. Kernels give some great features as well. We have excellent ROM and kernel devs so its really nice. The Nexus 4 is considered a "dev" phone by a lot of people so why not take advantage of the awesome support we have!
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Moot*
Also, have you tried EVERY kernel? Harsh keeps close to stock, but adds newer patches and fixes, as well as the ability to change gamma. He still uses mpdecision, which retains the stock snappiness.
OP, using custom ROMs lets you have the latest version of Android + all the cool extras.
T9 dialer, Pie and battery percentage are three VERY popular ones. Mind you, there are ways to add these to the stock ROM, but at that point it's not stock.
one word - COLORS
Run stock as long as you happily can. Keep an eye on the more popular custom ROM threads to see if there's any one, or more, features that you absolutely can't live without, if you're at all interested.
You're running a great ROM already and too many people jump into the ring without doing enough research.
The one thing I can't live without is hiding nav bar,
ok, two things, Touch Control.... Since stock kernel disabled it I had to use a custom kernel. Besides it's old habit. I was a Franco kernel user since Galaxy Nexus.
1. The software buttons can take up a lot of space after the status bar is included. Makes the screen feel less like 4.7"
2. The stock colors really are washed out. Modifying the gamma can get you extremely attractive colors.
3. I like being able to have a flashlight and my hotspot a touch away and having custom tiles proves awesome for that.
4. When you're playing Real Racing 3 and your girlfriend texts you, its kind of a pain in the butt to switch windows . The pie in my ROM let's me read and respond to my notifications on the fly.
5. Aesthetics. The boot animation, custom app color recommendations and artwork in general are just awesome on Paranoid Android 3.1. Cooler than Holo at times
6. Better sound. By default the volume on this sucks but now I've installed Xloud it's just right.
But in the end this is a Nexus device. Works just peachy off the bat but coming from the developer concept series from Google, they don't expect you to take it as is. Different strokes for different folks. 4.2.2 is as is. If you want more though the Nexus is the cornocopia of ROM development. Every big league ROM originates here. Another reason to love it among the rest .
Just my two cents
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CyanogenMod and Stock Kernel
In my opinion the best way to go is CyanogenMod gives you a lot more customization and the battery life, ram speed and CPU clock is perfectly fine so there's no need to get a custom kernel.
Custom rom allows you to control your phone however your want.
As for me, i am using PA Rom. The reason I choose PA because it has some nice tweaks and customization.
- Battery Percentage
- Customizable Lockscreen
- Quick Settings Panel Customization
- Custom color for apps :>
- Volume Button tweaks
- Full Screen (Pie)
All about me.
Customization!!!!!!! I really liked having a top of the line device, except for the crap sound, washed out colors and lack of options. Using P.A.C. Rom with the franco Kernel it seems like a whole new phone. There is almost no end to what I can tweak or modify on my phone. The addition of Awesome Beats and Noozxoide made my phone sound crazy good. Everyones phone is totally their own. No 2 are alike because you can personalize everything. If i wanted the same phone as everyone else I would have bought an Iphone. Once you start flashing you will find it hard to stop. Enjoy the power of Stock for a while and then come to the darkside and you will never want to go back to stock.
There are aspects of custom ROMs and kernels in general that give you an increased fluidity. The nexus 4 is beastly and honestly I run full stock right now until I somehow get bored with its performance and want to Rev the CPU/GPU to its limit
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Much more features, tweaks and customization.
R: Custom roms, but why?
Features and tweaks. Customization.
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Running stock or my modification of it lol. Stock 4.2.2, Root, Franco Kernel, Improved camera patch and Xlouder patch with awesome beats.
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Try it for yourself, bud. Don't be ignorant and make a thread like this.
With the custom rom you can customise more you phone and improve your experience with your phone than stock ROM. Many people said that in latest posts. But no one precise that every custom ROM has some little or big dysfunction. Look the chapter troobleshooting of each custom rom. Even cyanogenmod (very popular) has one.
My strategy is replaced the stock ROM by custom ROM when I 'm feel tired of my phone. And then it allows me to wait several mouths: time to search the right next phone for me and buy it.
How about using the stock deox roms ? This allows you to run the base rom plus flash some small customisations
Customisations in the roms sometimes bring instability, although most of the main roms on here CM /AOKP / AOSP are quite stable but that is why they are development roms

[Poll] AOSP vs TW

How many of you have taken the plunge to aosp and how many are staying on touchwiz? Reply with what rom you are on, if you have done the LOKI patch and why you made that choice.
I am on tw still because I have no real needs that aosp can give me (yet) though I feel I might dive into using slimbean later today bc of my flashaholic ways since my dell streak 5 days.
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greekunit690 said:
How many of you have taken the plunge to aosp and how many are staying on touchwiz? Reply with what rom you are on, if you have done the LOKI patch and why you made that choice.
I am on tw still because I have no real needs that aosp can give me (yet) though I feel I might dive into using slimbean later today bc of my flashaholic ways since my dell streak 5 days.
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Or.. You know.. You can make an actual poll in the thread as opposed to having people comment on it.
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Or.. You know.. You can make an actual poll in the thread as opposed to having people comment on it.
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I know started it on my phone though...Polls now openedm
There we go! Thanks.
Now onto the point, I would go with touchwiz. I just change the crappy launcher. My problem with AOSP/AOKP is that there is always a problem with something small but for some users its a big problem. For example with Task650's rom for the galaxy s3, it took forever to get bluetooth to work properly. And one update killed it again. By bluetooth I mean connecting it in car/other devices and using it for voice/audio.
It just never feels as fluid as a stock rom.
aosp is smooth and lag free but it lacks some features that differentiates samsung phones from the rest. camera will be completly basic, all the gestures and such will be gone, and so on. the only way to retain them and have a smooth experience is to use a custom launcher, like nova or apex.
Just remember these:
AOSP - be ready for some small bugs (always) Faster roms though. I need bluetooth, and it was a nightmare to keep this working.
TW - stable.
Ran aosp for along time and was the roms of choice. Nit picking annoying bugs drove me away, I use my phone for business, and asop can not hold up.
My opinion Only!
AOSP all day.
TheAxman said:
Just remember these:
AOSP - be ready for some small bugs (always) Faster roms though. I need bluetooth, and it was a nightmare to keep this working.
TW - stable.
Ran aosp for along time and was the roms of choice. Nit picking annoying bugs drove me away, I use my phone for business, and asop can not hold up.
My opinion Only!
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Agree 100%!
AOSP will get my vote over TW every time. :good:
I ran AOSP/CM on all my phones up until now. The S4 and it's features are unique. The phone is fluid and smooth using nova prime. I've never had lag from the moment I got my phone. Never thought I'd say this but I'm content as of now with touchjizz. Finally having options for kernels and Nottach's module along with xposed framework this phone has been and absolute Stunner IMO. Best phone I've ever had hands down.
stevehkim said:
I ran AOSP/CM on all my phones up until now. The S4 and it's features are unique. The phone is fluid and smooth using nova prime. I've never had lag from the moment I got my phone. Never thought I'd say this but I'm content as of now with touchjizz. Finally having options for kernels and Nottach's module along with xposed framework this phone has been and absolute Stunner IMO. Best phone I've ever had hands down.
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My thoughts exactly. With Nottach's xposed mod, I can make this this look as cool as any ROM. Nova Launcher and widget locker and jellybean keyboard from the market make sure I never see a trace of touchjizz. Except when I go into settings, but I can live with that since I have activity shortcuts to data usage and battery info. Dealing with on/off small issues with Bluetooth, mhl, camera, etc on cm10 just wore me down on my GS2.
I don't have the time that I used to to keep on top of which nightlies work and which ones have weird bugs. Now that things just seem to work, I think I can be happy.
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