[Poll] AOSP vs TW - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

How many of you have taken the plunge to aosp and how many are staying on touchwiz? Reply with what rom you are on, if you have done the LOKI patch and why you made that choice.
I am on tw still because I have no real needs that aosp can give me (yet) though I feel I might dive into using slimbean later today bc of my flashaholic ways since my dell streak 5 days.
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greekunit690 said:
How many of you have taken the plunge to aosp and how many are staying on touchwiz? Reply with what rom you are on, if you have done the LOKI patch and why you made that choice.
I am on tw still because I have no real needs that aosp can give me (yet) though I feel I might dive into using slimbean later today bc of my flashaholic ways since my dell streak 5 days.
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Or.. You know.. You can make an actual poll in the thread as opposed to having people comment on it.

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Or.. You know.. You can make an actual poll in the thread as opposed to having people comment on it.
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I know started it on my phone though...Polls now openedm

There we go! Thanks.
Now onto the point, I would go with touchwiz. I just change the crappy launcher. My problem with AOSP/AOKP is that there is always a problem with something small but for some users its a big problem. For example with Task650's rom for the galaxy s3, it took forever to get bluetooth to work properly. And one update killed it again. By bluetooth I mean connecting it in car/other devices and using it for voice/audio.
It just never feels as fluid as a stock rom.

aosp is smooth and lag free but it lacks some features that differentiates samsung phones from the rest. camera will be completly basic, all the gestures and such will be gone, and so on. the only way to retain them and have a smooth experience is to use a custom launcher, like nova or apex.

Just remember these:
AOSP - be ready for some small bugs (always) Faster roms though. I need bluetooth, and it was a nightmare to keep this working.
TW - stable.
Ran aosp for along time and was the roms of choice. Nit picking annoying bugs drove me away, I use my phone for business, and asop can not hold up.
My opinion Only!

AOSP all day.

TheAxman said:
Just remember these:
AOSP - be ready for some small bugs (always) Faster roms though. I need bluetooth, and it was a nightmare to keep this working.
TW - stable.
Ran aosp for along time and was the roms of choice. Nit picking annoying bugs drove me away, I use my phone for business, and asop can not hold up.
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Agree 100%!

AOSP will get my vote over TW every time. :good:

I ran AOSP/CM on all my phones up until now. The S4 and it's features are unique. The phone is fluid and smooth using nova prime. I've never had lag from the moment I got my phone. Never thought I'd say this but I'm content as of now with touchjizz. Finally having options for kernels and Nottach's module along with xposed framework this phone has been and absolute Stunner IMO. Best phone I've ever had hands down.

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I ran AOSP/CM on all my phones up until now. The S4 and it's features are unique. The phone is fluid and smooth using nova prime. I've never had lag from the moment I got my phone. Never thought I'd say this but I'm content as of now with touchjizz. Finally having options for kernels and Nottach's module along with xposed framework this phone has been and absolute Stunner IMO. Best phone I've ever had hands down.
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My thoughts exactly. With Nottach's xposed mod, I can make this this look as cool as any ROM. Nova Launcher and widget locker and jellybean keyboard from the market make sure I never see a trace of touchjizz. Except when I go into settings, but I can live with that since I have activity shortcuts to data usage and battery info. Dealing with on/off small issues with Bluetooth, mhl, camera, etc on cm10 just wore me down on my GS2.
I don't have the time that I used to to keep on top of which nightlies work and which ones have weird bugs. Now that things just seem to work, I think I can be happy.
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The Most Stable/Customizable ROM??

Hey all...I was wondering what people thought was the most stable/customizable rom out there? I'm currently using CM7 stable..and not to happy with it at all. I usually use MODACO's ROMS and have been very pleased....I just want something new, and fun...Any suggestions?
If you usually use Modoco, and have tried CM7, I guess only thing left to feel something "different & customizable" is the latest Miui.
Very stable and fast for me, and there are a bunch of themes. I highly recommend using Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher, as the built in launcher is what turns people away and in my experience is the source of instability. You can even cherry pick any aspect from between themes using the built in Theme Manager. Oh and on the latest version, I got 37 hours of normal use .
It's quite different. On MIUI now because I like the animations and built in exclusives:
File Manager with awesome indexing and great FTP
Music App is nice, scrolling lyrics are a cool feature
MIUI Gallery is slow at times, but lets you easily hide and unhide media folders.
MIUI Cam is nice too, reminds me of sense camera.
Phone/Contacts/SMS app are awesome as default android is lacking.
Lockscreen is visually nice.
I dislike the default launcher and the search!!
Niether are better, CM7 or MIUI, its all part of the fun of owning a great android phone. You get bored after a few months, you switch it up!
If you want stable, go CM6...
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MIUI,all the time
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MIUI is nowhere near stable or bug-free. At least on Froyo it wasn't. And I don't believe that changing to a buggier Gingerbread as a base added stability to it.
If you want fun - go for it, in the worst case - keep your nandroid at hand.
If you want stability - stay with Froyo ROMs, CM6 or Enomther's. But it won't be fun then.
Yeah, I'm one of the people that have an amazing experience with MIUI, but others aren't so lucky. so like the guy above
Miui for new, fun and customizability
CM6 or Enom for guaranteed stable.
I've also had a great experience with MIUI. But, u'll only know by trying/flashing!
Thank you to all who responded. CM7 is going okay for me. I really like the customized features. But I'm having a terrible time with the Bluetooth feature. Every time I'm on a call, either the end user can't hear me or they hear static. I tried changing my kernel to REDSTAR, but yes, it made my phone screaming fast, but still I have the BT issue.
What do you all think of KANG-0-RAMA ROM? I'll check out the more stable roms you guys mentioned. I'm not a fan of MIUI only b/c I dont like the iPhone look. But what do you all like about cm6? and I emother? Can you all please list what are the pros and cons of those two?
AGAIN THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
Same for me wrt MIUI. Kinda think it stands for Mimic Iphone's User Interface ;p. If I wanted an IPhone, well u know the rest ...
I've been using CM7 since nightly #3 and been lucky that the wonk has generally stayed away. (I just jinxed it, didn't I .....)
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Same for me wrt MIUI. Kinda think it stands for Mimic Iphone's User Interface ;p. If I wanted an IPhone, well u know the rest ...
I've been using CM7 since nightly #3 and been lucky that the wonk has generally stayed away. (I just jinxed it, didn't I .....)
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What the hell is this wonk everyone is talking about?
shockaholick said:
What the hell is this wonk everyone is talking about?
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http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20881-psa-lets-define-wonk-so-we-are-on-the-same-page/
Stop being lazy!
If you use ADW for MIUI or reformat/repartition sd card--wipe all several times-- and do fresh install--use VM Heap Tool and set it at 48--the new GB MIUI is very stable for me.
I use MyBackUp Pro to bu home screens etc and restore--so it didn't take long to get back up and running
Take a look to this room http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061648 I have been using it for a couples of days and it is really stable, I don't know that kind of customization do you like from cm7 or modaco roms, I used too but they have too many problems.
What about battery life? My screen is off and my phone doesn't sleep on CM7
kindiboy said:
What about battery life? My screen is off and my phone doesn't sleep on CM7
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thats odd... sleeps for almost everyone else. might be an app that is constantly keeping your phone awake or your sync settings are really frequent. which would go hand in hand with battery life.
Hearing people say MIUI is stable blows my mind. I've never used a buggier rom... it's quite nice when it works though.
I find that since 2.3, there hasn't been any stable roms. I'm hoping CM 7.1 is better, as I find CM7 pretty bad.
I'm using CM 7 ExtremeMod 16.5.2011 + a2sd. so far its very stable and battery last long.
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Thinking about going back to stock AOSP rom

The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Stock 2.3.4 is great stability wise and has tremendous battery life.
Iv been running zuluzulu for about a week now and it flies. Great battery life although I am a heavy user. I haven't experienced random reboots at all with it. Also if you like the notification power widget from cm7 its built into zuluzulu.
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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Agreed. AdamG's Oxygen Rom is my favourite right now. It's AOSP GRJ22 with some of the great features from CyanogenMOD built in (status bar power widget, improved widget picker, etc) and fantastic battery life!
A stable cm 7.1 (2.34) will be out very soon. No worries
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
chubb16 said:
I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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You can add that stuff with Widget Locker.
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
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I agree in general, but of course there are exception. When I had an HTC Evo 4G, I ended up running CM6 as my daily and it was exceptionally stable. At least as good as stock HTC Sense. Unfortunately when Gingerbread came around, that changed, and CM7 was not in the same ballpark.
On my Nexus, though... yeah I run stock ROM. CM7 is cool and if I had any other device (that came with a carrier OS and not pure Android), I would dump that shiz and rock CM7 for sure. But plain pure stock Android developed by a team of amazing developers specifically for this device, that's just not going to be beat
Hah. Google's "official" code isn't really better then what rom devs provide if they know what they're doing. The way google keeps pushing buggy code without giving a s*** is really disappointing. They release updates and then they stop caring about it. As some pointed out the gb update brought call delay and broke aac support, it really seems like they don't even do some basic testing before releasing a new version (which even the crappiest developer on the block generally does). On top of that, there is still no support at all for gpu acceleration in the ui, which is kinda retarded. Day after day i'm getting more and more disappointed about google dev team's job, they don't really deserve half the respect that many geeks keep tributing them.
Stock vs Custom rom on the NS was something I always thought about too! I only ran stock for a few hours because I immediately flashed a new rom when I got my phone LOL But what I can remember from the stock 2.3.4 was that it was fast, faster than any phone I've ever had. But there are so many features that are incorporated in custom roms and it's really hard to forgo these things.
Anyone out there who has used both stock 2.3.4 and oxygen who can attest to better battery life and performance? I am curious as well.
The last phone I used for a long time running stock was my N1 but after flashing CM6 I never really looked back. Speed increase was very noticeable and battery life was better. This is the reason why I never really bothered to use stock software for my next phones.
well, to be honest, i kinda regret to be flashed customs. Stock is so stable and has so good battery life, but now i can't live without cm7 features, just can't...
it's sad story that shows that you can't miss what you don't know! =oP
I agree for the most part, stock gb is pretty good. Using Oxygen now, and the stability and speed from stock + some nice features makes it a good choice!
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Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
kingofthebraves said:
Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
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In the case of Oxygen not much difference but I believe CM pretty much guts the framework and replaces it with their own heavily modded version.
does facebook sync work on all ASOP roms? or is it just CM7?
Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
dsixda said:
Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
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tested right now and couldn't notice... if there is any, it's less than 1sec!

JB AOKP vs JB Leak

Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
Thanks!
rommark said:
Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
Thanks!
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Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
i wish beats audio would work on JB
I agree with all of the above. I love CM and AOKP and their unique set of features and vanilla goodies, but Samsung have really done a number on the S3! I find myself flashing the latest leaks almost straight away. They've just included so many useful features into the OS that I've become reliant on that, while I certainly prefer the vanilla look and speed, I don't want to sacrifice such genuinely useful features for it.
Except S-Voice of course, Lloyd* only knows what convinced Samsung it was going to be of any use to anyone - didn't they try it for themselves first?
Mind boggling to say the least. I do have to say though, the latest AOKP build looks mighty interesting with its tablet UI feature - wonder if it's done in a similar way to ParanoidAndroid?
*Android Central reference :thumbup:
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The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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CM/AOSP/AOKP roms are always very fast. I flash every kind of these Roms. It would be great port some apk files such as Music player, camera, clock, widgets to work on these roms.
Astore90 said:
The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
With SGS1 and 2 I used CM until ICS leaks come out, since then it is not worth the performance "difference", comparing with what we loose
First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!
TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!
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It's available in the CM10 thread. I would advise you to read the instructions before flashing CM10, as it is not exactly like flashing a Samsung rom.
yken said:
TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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It does make all the difference, more costumizable, doesnt look like iPhone, etc :victory:
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First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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I don't think you get how this works.
Toss3 said:
Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
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Couldnt agree with you more. Every phone ive had has been flashed with CM... The gs2 benefits from it but i have to say it. Touchwizz and the features of the stock rom ie; pop out play, motion controls, smoothness etc.. There just isnt the need to switch for me.
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Im using Omega Rom which keeps all the touchwiz features i want but makes it better than stock. Best of Both!
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I don't think you get how this works.
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TW only problem is the interface, before it might impair performanmce too, but now it is not relevant
Kangburra said:
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
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That's why I love Vertimus and Domination Theme! Best of both worlds, for the most part. We just saw a post that said JB 1.3.1 will be showing up sometime this week.
If you want battery, I would recommand using the FoxHound Rom (0.5 now) with Siyah Kernel (included) plus the STweaks Hardcore3boost. That's what I did and my system is still very smooth.
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i wish beats audio would work on JB
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Just turn the volume to Max,same with all EQ settings, fill your ears with ground glass and use the cheapest headphones you can find. Viola! The True Beats Experience.

Just ordered N4

Hey I just ordered my nexus 4. Just a quick question, which custom rom most resembles the stock one that the n4 comes with but with better tweaks and battery life?
Coming from an s3 and I've always used a touchwiz based custom rom.
So I would like to stay with the rom that most is similar to the one the n4 comes with. Ty
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Probably Primerunner under Nexus 4 Android Development. Seems pretty stock but with some enhancements.
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MiNCO v6 ROM resembles the stock ROM. No customizations.
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All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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zephiK said:
All of them resemble stock. They're all themed the same, it's just a matter of added features while maintaining the same look as stock.
I don't get what you're trying to get at op. It's not like s3 roms where everybody is trying to theme their rom. A lot of roms on n4 aren't themed, some are but most are left it's holo look.
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I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Minco
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Don't want to create new thread so will ask here as I'm also coming from S3...
Are the any major bugs with CM rom? With the S3, Picassa sync and Bluetooth didn't work...I'm assuming with the N4 everything should be more or less 100%?
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All the ROMs should be very stable since they are all based on the same AOSP code. This is very different from a non-Nexus phone where custom ROMs might be less stable.
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Yeah that makes sense... Thanks.
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Crisisx1 said:
I guess... From a stability point of view... To be as stable as the stock.
I've ran cm10.1 and cm10...Along with some other aokp roms on my s3 before and of course it's not as stable as the stock tw rom.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Well the difference is that this is NEXUS device and is AOSP supported. So 99.9% of the ROMs that come out for this phone are stable. They're not stable on the S3 for AOKP/CM right away because they have to actually do work to make it work; whereas, N4 is AOSP supported and its like.. BAM! it works out of the box. As for S3, the phone ships out with TouchWiz. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP requires work to make everything work.
I'd say CM/AOKP are pretty stable overall. All ROMs are stable. This is one of the many benefits of having a Nexus device and I don't believe in when people are wanting to upgrade and people say "oh just get a S3.. it doesnt have latest but just flash a custom rom and you'll be on latest android) no it doesn't work that way just because of like what you said... instablity. When Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) comes out, N4 will be one of the first devices to launch with it and we'll have the most stable ROM day one without having to rework code to make all the functionalities like calling, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, Screen Rotation, Data, etc to work (I know on other phones, people release dirty ROMs and things like what I listed don't work as of yet until its fixed)
Shopping for a ROM/Kernel is like shopping for a car. Some tips to take,
1) Browse the original and android dev forums. Search around and look for whats interesting.
2) Find it interesting? Read OP post and the past 6-7 posts (dont even read it.. skim through it for feedback)
3) Like what you see? Check for screenshots or even a YouTube video
4) Still like it? Flash it and try it
and most of all, ENJOY.
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Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
Crisisx1 said:
Great reply... awesome, makes a lot more sense now. Thank you. I can't wait til my N4 arrives : )))
I've been reading at other threads about people complaining about quick battery drain and the screen not looking too good... I hope that isn't the case with me.. but I'm pretty sure a custom rom and kernel can fix all of that.
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Quick battery drain. Hmmmm, you will probably notice that battery won't be good until at least 2-3 charge cycles. Why?
1. You just got the phone, obviously you're going to be playing with the phone. Downloading apps, changing settings, setting up your home screen etc.
2. It takes time for the phone to get its charging cycle.
3. Stock kernel has the msm wakelock. Fixed in a future OTA.
Screen looks great. I don't have any problems. But yes you are right, custom kernel does fix #3 and you can alter your colors until it satisfy your eyes. Stock values are good enough for me. It looks A LOT better than Samsung's Super AMOLED, I came from a Galaxy Nexus.

Can touchwiz be uninstalled on a rooted phone?

It's been awhile since I haven't been on pure AOSP. I can't remember if Touchwiz can be uninstalled on a rooted phone or just like an app or is it hard coded in the OS.
Lag on such a powerful phone should be embarrassing to Samsung!
Thanks.
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Catchpen said:
It's been awhile since I haven't been on pure AOSP. I can't remember if Touchwiz can be uninstalled on a rooted phone or just like an app or is it hard coded in the OS.
Lag on such a powerful phone should be embarrassing to Samsung!
Thanks.
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It's not an app. It's built into various parts of the OS as far as I know. I have no lag though so I'm always surprised when people mention lag. Actually, to clarify I have seen some lag since I started doing some tweaks and mods posted on here but they usually clear up after a few reboots. OS seems pretty self-optimizing to me. But again, I always say this, lag depends on what phone/OS you are coming from. Someone coming from AOSP will probably notice lag where as someone like me coming from a stock S3 finds this much faster.
Catchpen said:
It's been awhile since I haven't been on pure AOSP. I can't remember if Touchwiz can be uninstalled on a rooted phone or just like an app or is it hard coded in the OS.
Lag on such a powerful phone should be embarrassing to Samsung!
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Depends on what you mean by TouchWiz. If you mean just the launcher, it can be frozen/disabled or removed. But the hooks of the TW framework go deep because a lot of the features in the ROM depend on it. TW can be tweaked, and various unused RAM wasting TW related services can be frozen/disabled. On my previous S2 and S3, I ran custom tweaked TW ROMs with Nova or Apex launchers that were as smooth or smoother than AOSP/AOKP ROMs. Once the bootloader gets unlocked on the AT&T S4 and the devs get to do their stuff then things will get better. Who knows, the lag could just be the result of a kernel governor that needs a little tweaking. These days, running AOSP will make you lose a lot of the features that the manufacturers are putting into their phones. Of course whether or not someone would consider all of these new features useful or gimmicky is another story entirely.
hamzer11 said:
It's not an app. It's built into various parts of the OS as far as I know. I have no lag though so I'm always surprised when people mention lag. Actually, to clarify I have seen some lag since I started doing some tweaks and mods posted on here but they usually clear up after a few reboots. OS seems pretty self-optimizing to me. But again, I always say this, lag depends on what phone/OS you are coming from. Someone coming from AOSP will probably notice lag where as someone like me coming from a stock S3 finds this much faster.
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Thanks, Yeah it's nothing substantial but noticeable to me. Just scrolling from page to page on the home screen it's just a little jerky, poweramp has skipped a few times, stuff like that. hopefully a root and de-bloat will help.
Over 1 gig of ram is comsumed just with the phone idle and no open apps. I know Android will manage memory well when needed but shesh.
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Have you turned off all animations in developer settings? My phone didn't lag, but doing that made it even faster.
TW is so integrated into the ROM you really wouldn't want to uninstall it. Stuff just wouldn't work.
Just be patient and wait for our awesome devs to put together a custom ROM for this wicked cool phone.

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