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Going from Samsung Note 2 to Z3, smart move?

Hi
I am considering leaving my beaten Samsung Note 2 for a Z3. I don't use the SPen a lot so I don't think I will miss that features from my Note .
My main priorities are:
Good battery life
Fast upgrade to Android L
Responsive
Great audio quality on headphones
Any opinions?
Thanks, Trond

Trondeh said:
Hi
I am considering leaving my beaten Samsung Note 2 for a Z3. I don't use the SPen a lot so I don't think I will miss that features from my Note .
My main priorities are:
Good battery life
Fast upgrade to Android L
Responsive
Great audio quality on headphones
Any opinions?
Thanks, Trond
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Do it!
I did a similar upgrade, Note 2-> Xperia Z for approx 6 months -> Xperia Z3.
It's definitely worthwhile, the Note 2 seems old and clunky in comparison, and IMHO Touchwiz sucks compared to Sony's android software. The build quality is in another league also.

tooch1 said:
Do it!
I did a similar upgrade, Note 2-> Xperia Z for approx 6 months -> Xperia Z3.
It's definitely worthwhile, the Note 2 seems old and clunky in comparison, and IMHO Touchwiz sucks compared to Sony's android software. The build quality is in another league also.
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Thank you! How would you rate the audio quality of the Z3 compared to the Note? Even if the Note 2 has a Wolfson DAC, which is supposed to be good, I am not happy at all with the sound quality using my high-quality earbuds (Shure 535). Audio quality is one of the most important decision factors for me.
How is the office-part of the Z3, Exchange email and calendar especially.

Do it, bro. I upgraded from a S III. Best decision I've ever made, I suffered with the craptastic Android 4.3 update on the S III so much I'd take any other phone that is a lot more responsive.
In terms of audio quality, I can't perceive any difference. Both the S III and the Z3 sound great. Though, I'd prefer the Z3 to be a bit louder, I know I'm possibly destroying my ears but I like loud music.

Trondeh said:
Thank you! How would you rate the audio quality of the Z3 compared to the Note? Even if the Note 2 has a Wolfson DAC, which is supposed to be good, I am not happy at all with the sound quality using my high-quality earbuds (Shure 535). Audio quality is one of the most important decision factors for me.
How is the office-part of the Z3, Exchange email and calendar especially.
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Sound quality was a big thing for me as well, and the Z3 does not disappoint. I had a quick listen to a HDTracks 24/192 master of Miles Davis-Kind Of Blue this morning with my Sennheiser HD-25-II and it was amazing. It sounds great with everything I've thrown at it so far.
Z3 also officially supports USB DACs and DSD playback. It's designed to sound great
Can't comment too much on the office side of things as I only really use Gmail and Google Calendar, but they both work flawlessly as on most modern Android devices

Any clue if and when the new Z3 will get Android L? Could it be that Sony would only provide this on a future Z4 to be released perhaps early next year? Perhaps this is only paranoia :silly:

If you want fast updates, then take a look at the new Google nexus 6. The z3 will get updated to Android L and z4 should come early next year with Android L as Sony has been doing the two phones a year cycle. But if updates are a priority, then nexus is the way to go. Also the new note 4 looks like a great phone.
You can't go wrong with the z3, note 4 or nexus 6. All three should be good for a while.

Sony are not known for their quick updates and due to their bi yearly release cycle it would be safe to say that the Nexus 6 or Note 4 will 'last you longer'. However on the hardware front you cannot go wrong with any of the three.

They were fast with the Kitkat update.
And the hardware stays the same. If it won't last long enough, it's because you want a new phone.

paysen said:
They were fast with the Kitkat update.
And the hardware stays the same. If it won't last long enough, it's because you want a new phone.
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Just read this: http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/10/sony-bringing-android-5-0-lollipop-entire-xperia-z-series/
If it is true, it is rather impressive of Sony!

Trondeh said:
Just read this: http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/10/sony-bringing-android-5-0-lollipop-entire-xperia-z-series/
If it is true, it is rather impressive of Sony!
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They will prioritise updates for the Z3 series and the Z2.

ive gone from the note 2 to the z3 and cant complain other than no root at the mo for locked bootloader as this messes with the drm keys for the camera for low light conditions

Two things to consider. One is the very low headphone volume. It's much too low. Second is the excessively blue tint on the screen. I am constantly adjusting my white balance, it's driving me crazy.

Ditto on the output volume. Guess Sony is a bit overzealous in implementing the EU volume restrictions which stipulated a 85 dBa limit. According to GSMArena tests, the Z3 tops up at about 86 dBa, with no option to increase it without firmware mods.

Having had the note 2 end 2012- early 13 was one of the worst and most boring phones have ever owned!!
I got the z3 on thursday (same day I got my note 4 aswell) and the z3 is better than the note 2 in every way I can think of.
especially audio and battery life. The Z3 is my main phone now its the first sony phone I have really been interested in in a long time. The last sony phone I had was the z1 and I had the Z, T & S before and while I liked the Z in the way it looked at the water resistance, the audio volume/loud speaker was rather low and the battery life wasn't great and the camera I found slow to focus same can be said for the S & T aswell. The Z2 was much improved but still had low audio volume for my use, the Z3 fixed that, along with I prefer the z3s more rounded design makes the phone look smaller than it is.

What's the next phone ?

Hi
I was wondering what do you guys think about this topic ?
You know witch phone you went to, what phone you consider buying or why are you staying with our Moto G ?
What were the pros and cons of getting a new phone ?
Hope you won't go so hard on me for that topic
I had some in hands, I heard some stuff and for now I would like to get:
OnePlus One - Pros: Power, Camera, Bang for buck. Cons: Availability, Size;
Galaxy S5 - Pros: Camera, Water resistance, Accessory availability. Cons: Skin, Immediate system swap, Build quality in some places.
Xperia Z1/Z2/Z3 and Compact - Pros: Camera, Design, Build Quality. Cons: Touch screen fail = whole display swap, fragile glass panels, Size(not in compact);
HTC One (M7/M8) - Pros: Build quality, System skin, User experience, Metal body. Cons: Price, Camera, Not so easy repair;
LG G2 - Pros: Camera, Screen, Price. Cons: Back buttons, Build quality;
Nexus 5 - IDK I never had the chance to use one.

Luckily for you, I've had almost all of them (except for the Z1 and Z2), so here's my two cents.
So, in order:
-G2: My favorite so far. Great form factor, battery life and camera. The display is beautiful, and TBH I couldn't find any flaws to it.
-Nexus 5: Prety much same hardware as the G2, but the battery life was just awful (on Kitkat and even worse on Lollipop)
-Z3 / Z3C: Amazing build quality, great battery life, but too big for me, and the color reproduction was low-par for a high-end smartphone. The photos are average at best (good hardware but ****ty camera software). Compact's battery life was even better (6-7 hours of SOT, it lasted 3 to 4 days with limited use, 1-2 with heavy use). Build quality was not as good as the regular Z3, but still better than some other phones. DRM keys prevented you to have a fully working custom ROM, and that's a big no-no for me.
-OnePlus One: Big community, best bang for the buck on the market at the time. Good display, battery life and camera. But too many issues, and a pretty crappy customer service according to a lot of people.
-S5: Didn't like this one very much. Build quality was not very good, the interface was laggy (thanks, Touchwiz), but it felt light in the hand, the camera was good, and so was battery life. Didn't use the bugged fingerprint scanner at all.
-HTC M8: Amazing build quality and feeling in hand, although quite slippery. Sense 6 was amazing and very intuitive (my favorite custom UI by far), the speakers were by far the best I've had (way ahead even of the ones on the Z3 series). Camera was mediocre, except in low-light situations where it performed great. But the huge top and bottom bezels and the sub-par battery life made me sell it.
After changing phones at least once a month (I sold them, and bought other that were already used but in great condition, so it didn't cost me jack), I sold my Z3 Compact last month and bought my third Moto G (the first one was a 1st gen 3G model that I broke and that got exchanged by my insurance, the second one was a 1st gen 4G model that I sold when I bought the Z3 with a 2-year contract). My main argument was that I didn't use at all the full potential of my former phones (very few pictures, almost no games, music only with headphones), and that a Moto G could do anything I needed for waaaay cheaper

Although I have been tempted to buy a LG G2 ,I will stick with the g for the next 2-3(-4?) years. It still does what I want, plus more!

I think I might get a moto g2 when they start selling them off to make way for the G3 unless they have very good offers on the G3.

Thank you for posting but...
This thread has existed for 3 years now Discussion] What's your next smartphone / What should I buy so no need for this as well.
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Is it worth to buy this phone?

Hello, I'm thinking of change my current phone (Xperia Z2). I'm using phone for music and photos mostly and sometimes for vr. Is Axon 7 a good choise for me?

It is perfect for VR and music. Plenty of battery! and pictures are excellent during the day, with optical and electronic image stabilization for perfect video capture. It also has a very convenient selfie camera (wider angle than usual). The only problem of the phone is the pictures in low light conditions. Sound is amazing. You have several custom roms to choose from and in less than 2 weeks it will have Android Nougat. Recently Google declared this phone Daydream certified.

i came over from the xperia z3. I enjoyed the axon 7 very much. The speakers continue the front facing trend for me but with the blast in quality and volume. The battery life is more of less the same as my z3 almost 1 and half day of moderate usage. The camera is quicker to focus then my z3. The screen is better in resolution and benefits of amoled and that's not to say z3 didn't have a good screen.

Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: This phone is a beast. The community will open up once ZTE fully allows development of this device. Honestly though? I like that there's only a few ROMs to choose from. Two for stock and one for CM (Now Lineage). Battery life is outstanding and quick charge is no joke. Everything about this phone screams high-end. The only thing holding this back is the camera and even then.. it's not that bad. You just need to learn how to use it a bit and you'll be fine. I, in a round about way, got this from selling my Galaxy S 6 and then buying the Axon 7 on swappa. I was really nervous about going with a ZTE product only because I've only seen HTC, Samsung (only recently), and Nexus devices as the /only/ devices to buy when it comes to Android. You won't be disappointed.

Do you think guys it's good idea to buy this phone from China?

Can you post some low light photos?

As a multimedia device, the Axon 7 is likely near the top of the pack. The speakers are great, the screen is high quality and punchy, and the design makes it comfortable to hold. If these are important to you, then the Axon 7 is a good choice.
The camera is okay. In well lit situations it can take good pictures. In poorly lit ones though, the results are poor. If a top notch camera is one of the most important factors for you, you may want to look at other devices.
The dev community is small, and the offerings are meager when compared to other devices. If homebrew and custom ROMs are your thing, you may want to look at a different device.
Battery life is largely okay. There are devices with better battery life, there are devices with worse battery life. Unless your needs are super specific, battery life shouldn't be a deciding factor with this device.
Performance is pretty great. The CPU/GPU combo shouldn't leave you wanting. It tends to underperform compared to similarly specced devices when it comes to benchmark tests, but these don't really reflect real world performance. If you want a device that's great for mobile gaming, the Axon 7 is a great pick.
VR is largely down to the Nougat update that brings Daydream compatibility. All signs point to it dropping soon, but it isn't here yet. If you need immediate VR sanctification, you may want to look elsewhere. If your comfortable waiting, the Axon 7 may end up working well. My usual caveat is this though: Buy a device based on what it can do today, not what it might do tomorrow.

For music it's great as it has decent DACs in it and front facing speakers that are fairly loud. It should do fine with VR and is 'Daydream Ready' per Google:https://vr.google.com/daydream/phones/
As for 'buy from China'. If that's where you live, sure, buy from there. If not you need to make sure whatever you're buying will have a warranty that is valid in your region. I'm in the US and purchased mine from B&H which has a nice deal on handset now: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1257205-REG/zte_a7g333_axon_7_64gb_smartphone.html

Xperia Z is such a legend

As I'm owning an Xperia Z5, since a year and a half, I still find that the Z was the most popular and really well supported device, so many ROMs, kernels, mods, themes and just everything, even Sony supported it for a long period of time, but the biggest part was the people who spent hours to make the best for it, it's such a legend, made by Sony, and the people continued to make it better.
It's a bit sad that I am pretty disappointed with my Z5, it didn't make me happy like the Z, and from the development side? It's nothing compared to what the Z has gotten..
Thanks for reading and have a great day!

androidfreak70 said:
As I'm owning an Xperia Z5, since a year and a half, I still find that the Z was the most popular and really well supported device, so many ROMs, kernels, mods, themes and just everything, even Sony supported it for a long period of time, but the biggest part was the people who spent hours to make the best for it, it's such a legend, made by Sony, and the people continued to make it better.
It's a bit sad that I am pretty disappointed with my Z5, it didn't make me happy like the Z, and from the development side? It's nothing compared to what the Z has gotten..
Thanks for reading and have a great day!
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I know, and I still using it for daily.
May I know details of every things that make you disappointed on your Z5? Because I have a plan to upgrade my device, either Z5c or the latest XZ1c.

Zerikwan said:
I know, and I still using it for daily.
May I know details of every things that make you disappointed on your Z5? Because I have a plan to upgrade my device, either Z5c or the latest XZ1c.
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The Z5 lacks a lot of development and support, if you don't care about that then it's not the only issue, the Snapdragon 810 literally sucks! A lot of heat (running at over 50°C all the time) and terrible performance for an octa core CPU, Especially in games, even some cheap Chinese phones performance better, however it's an improvement over the Z, just not that much of an improvement as I expected.
It's not the phone's fault, just the Snapdragon 810 chip, and it's not the only one.
However I highly recommend avoiding any device with a Snapdragon 810 CPU because of the heat, bad performance and battery draining (I barely get 3 hours of screen on time), and I also recommend getting the Xperia XZ Premium, it has a 4K screen and a bigger battery unlike the XZ1 line.
More about the Z5:
Screen: meh, it has a blueish tint that makes the whites aren't so white, the TFT screen on the Z was better except outdoors.
Camera: good but not great, especially indoors, pretty noisy, 4K recording isn't so wow and the 120fps slow motion is too dark and low quality IMO, But it does pretty well in good lighting conditions.
Speakers: not so good, but I was able to get them louder after installing a mod.
Software: the Android 7.1.1 is the last update that the device will probably get, the nougat was a failure on the Z5 and XZ though, so I'm still using marshmallow.
So it's a fine device at the end but if you can go for newer devices like the XZ Premium then you better do!

androidfreak70 said:
The Z5 lacks a lot of development and support, if you don't care about that then it's not the only issue, the Snapdragon 810 literally sucks! A lot of heat (running at over 50°C all the time) and terrible performance for an octa core CPU, Especially in games, even some cheap Chinese phones performance better, however it's an improvement over the Z, just not that much of an improvement as I expected.
It's not the phone's fault, just the Snapdragon 810 chip, and it's not the only one.
However I highly recommend avoiding any device with a Snapdragon 810 CPU because of the heat, bad performance and battery draining (I barely get 3 hours of screen on time), and I also recommend getting the Xperia XZ Premium, it has a 4K screen and a bigger battery unlike the XZ1 line.
More about the Z5:
Screen: meh, it has a blueish tint that makes the whites aren't so white, the TFT screen on the Z was better except outdoors.
Camera: good but not great, especially indoors, pretty noisy, 4K recording isn't so wow and the 120fps slow motion is too dark and low quality IMO, But it does pretty well in good lighting conditions.
Speakers: not so good, but I was able to get them louder after installing a mod.
Software: the Android 7.1.1 is the last update that the device will probably get, the nougat was a failure on the Z5 and XZ though, so I'm still using marshmallow.
So it's a fine device at the end but if you can go for newer devices like the XZ Premium then you better do!
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I know about SD810 heating problem. It sucks, but till now, only Z5 family available in my country (so sad). XZ premium was great but I don't like a phone that has screen more than 5 inch. That's why I'm looking for XZ1c. 4K screen is not a big deal for me.
Thanks for sharing.

Zerikwan said:
I know about SD810 heating problem. It sucks, but till now, only Z5 family available in my country (so sad). XZ premium was great but I don't like a phone that has screen more than 5 inch. That's why I'm looking for XZ1c. 4K screen is not a big deal for me.
Thanks for sharing.
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I don't think the XZ1c would disappoint you either, it has nearly the same hardware as the XZP except for the screen and battery, and also, wait for them to come to your country, don't be in hurry.

X Compact vs XZ1 compact SOT

Good day.
Has anyone had the oportunity to compare XC vs XZ1C SOT?
I am thinking in replacing my stupid Galaxy S8 and get a smaller phone.
Trying to decide between XC or XZ1C. I simply loved the battery life of my good old Z3 Compact

I was in the same boat and went with the XC because it was half the price and I prefer Nougat over Oreo. Also, the XZ1 has no FM radio.
The XZ1 looks nicer and has a more premium case which isn't a fingerprint magnet and the volume buttons are positioned higher up so easier to use. Camera is better too and it has more RAM and a faster chipset but the 3GB XC RAM and mid-range chipset is plenty fast for me.
Battery on the XZ1 is better too but the XC battery life is also excellent, I comfortably get two days out of mine and can stretch it to 3 with light usage. Haven't done a direct comparison of screen-on-time but I had my XZ1 for a week and didn't think it was worth £400. For me, it came down to price and Sony getting rid of their useful customisations in Oreo. At least with the XC you have the option to upgrade (or not) to Oreo.

Dark_Horse said:
I was in the same boat and went with the XC because it was half the price and I prefer Nougat over Oreo. Also, the XZ1 has no FM radio.
The XZ1 looks nicer and has a more premium case which isn't a fingerprint magnet and the volume buttons are positioned higher up so easier to use. Camera is better too and it has more RAM and a faster chipset but the 3GB XC RAM and mid-range chipset is plenty fast for me.
Battery on the XZ1 is better too but the XC battery life is also excellent, I comfortably get two days out of mine and can stretch it to 3 with light usage. Haven't done a direct comparison of screen-on-time but I had my XZ1 for a week and didn't think it was worth £400. For me, it came down to price and Sony getting rid of their useful customisations in Oreo. At least with the XC you have the option to upgrade (or not) to Oreo.
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Even though I can't see what's missed in Oreo in comparison to Nougat, I agree with everything else that you've written.

kwstas 13 said:
Even thought I can't see what's missed in Oreo in comparison to Nougat, I agree with everything else that you've written.
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if price doesn't matter for you get the xz1c cause
- It has way better graphical performance
- One more year of official software support
- better material and more premium
- better front camera + 4k video recording
- trust me, xc speakers are ****...
otherwise:
- cpu performance and daily usage is 99% the same experience (no lag and no ram issue in Xc)
- xc has a more vibrant display (just due to different calibrations from sony)
almost same battery performance
- xc has exactly the same gpu performance as the S8 (due to lower spec gpu but also lower resolution display)
- you might wanna wait and see if sony brings a better compact phone in 2018 cause XZ1c doesnt quite nail it and s8 is a beautiful phone...

Kianush said:
if price doesn't matter for you get the xz1c cause
- It has way better graphical performance
- One more year of official software support
- better material and more premium
- better front camera + 4k video recording
- trust me, xc speakers are ****...
otherwise:
- cpu performance and daily usage is 99% the same experience (no lag and no ram issue in Xc)
- xc has a more vibrant display (just due to different calibrations from sony)
almost same battery performance
- xc has exactly the same gpu performance as the S8 (due to lower spec gpu but also lower resolution display)
- you might wanna wait and see if sony brings a better compact phone in 2018 cause XZ1c doesnt quite nail it and s8 is a beautiful phone...
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Also, XZ1 have waterproof (IP68/IP66), gorilla glass 5 and bluetooth 5.0 ( quadruples the wireless transmission range, boosts the broadcast messaging ability by 800% and doubles the data speed capacity, real compatibility with lossless uncompressed quality with bluetooh headphones)
XC have water resistant (check on youtube), scratch resistant (no specs). The only benefit is that XC have stock Sony option of double tap to wake up and to sleep, which XZ1 doesnt.
XZ1 compact on ebay 450$
XC on Amazon 320$
XZ2 Compact (after MWC 2018) 699$ expected

Good day.
Thank you all very much for your reply.
XZ2 Compact will be anounced in MWC 2018?
I just wanted a good fast compact phone. No other brand offers that, other than Sony. Money is not a issue here.
I'm no Samsung fanboy, and I like Galaxy S8 very much, it is a beautiful phone, excelent camera, the software has all the things i need and never thought to root to add new function.
But it has a so so battery life, it's too big for my hand and impratical, useless fingerprint sensor, and is very fragile (last week it fell to the ground with the cover and the screen shatered. 300euros for repairs)
I have been looking around in this forum and Xz1C one, and it seems that Xz1c forum is still very dormant. As i want to root the phone, XC has the possibility to backup DRM keys, in case i want to send for warranty and there is much more mods for XC.
What's keeping me from buying XC is that battery endurance rating is 73h, worse that Galaxy S8, vs 108h for the XZ1C as stated in GSM Arena. And the loudness of the speakers.
If XZ2 Compact really will be anounced in MWC 2018, about 10 days from now, think i'll wait to see if it is worth it. (rumors say that XZ2C will be 5" screen, fingerprint sensor in the back and no 3.5mm earphone plug, and those for me are a no go)
Thank you.

Hansoliv said:
Good day.
Thank you all very much for your reply.
XZ2 Compact will be anounced in MWC 2018?
I just wanted a good fast compact phone. No other brand offers that, other than Sony. Money is not a issue here.
I'm no Samsung fanboy, and I like Galaxy S8 very much, it is a beautiful phone, excelent camera, the software has all the things i need and never thought to root to add new function.
But it has a so so battery life, it's too big for my hand and impratical, useless fingerprint sensor, and is very fragile (last week it fell to the ground with the cover and the screen shatered. 300euros for repairs)
I have been looking around in this forum and Xz1C one, and it seems that Xz1c forum is still very dormant. As i want to root the phone, XC has the possibility to backup DRM keys, in case i want to send for warranty and there is much more mods for XC.
What's keeping me from buying XC is that battery endurance rating is 73h, worse that Galaxy S8, vs 108h for the XZ1C as stated in GSM Arena. And the loudness of the speakers.
If XZ2 Compact really will be anounced in MWC 2018, about 10 days from now, think i'll wait to see if it is worth it. (rumors say that XZ2C will be 5" screen, fingerprint sensor in the back and no 3.5mm earphone plug, and those for me are a no go)
Thank you.
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If I were you, I'd definately wait for MWC 2018 (7 days patience).

Hansoliv said:
Good day.
What's keeping me from buying XC is that battery endurance rating is 73h, worse that Galaxy S8, vs 108h for the XZ1C as stated in GSM Arena. And the loudness of the speakers.
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One thing to notice though, xz1c would have been tested with oreo, and xc would have been tested with either nougat or even marshmallow. The OS difference might have affected the battery performance.

Hansoliv said:
What's keeping me from buying XC is that battery endurance rating is 73h, worse that Galaxy S8, vs 108h for the XZ1C as stated in GSM Arena. And the loudness of the speakers.
If XZ2 Compact really will be anounced in MWC 2018, about 10 days from now, think i'll wait to see if it is worth it. (rumors say that XZ2C will be 5" screen, fingerprint sensor in the back and no 3.5mm earphone plug, and those for me are a no go)
Thank you.
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Battery life is very subjective and those GSM Arena tests are synthetic, i.e. not reflective of real use. A lot depends on network signal strength, what you have enabled and running the background so they are useful as a comparison tool with other devices but it's quite possible the XC would have similar if not comparable battery life to the XZ1 depending on how you use it.
I'd definitely wait for MWC to see what the XZ2 Compact is all about as well as what other phones are announced. I totally agree with you though, 5" is too large and with no 3.5mm earphone plug and a fingerprint sensor in the worst place, it's a deal breaker.
I think overall, the XC is the last great all-rounder compact that Sony made, the XZ1C not having the FM Radio and losing all the useful Sony customisations in Oreo.

Hansoliv said:
Good day.
Thank you all very much for your reply.
XZ2 Compact will be anounced in MWC 2018?
I just wanted a good fast compact phone. No other brand offers that, other than Sony. Money is not a issue here.
I'm no Samsung fanboy, and I like Galaxy S8 very much, it is a beautiful phone, excelent camera, the software has all the things i need and never thought to root to add new function.
But it has a so so battery life, it's too big for my hand and impratical, useless fingerprint sensor, and is very fragile (last week it fell to the ground with the cover and the screen shatered. 300euros for repairs)
I have been looking around in this forum and Xz1C one, and it seems that Xz1c forum is still very dormant. As i want to root the phone, XC has the possibility to backup DRM keys, in case i want to send for warranty and there is much more mods for XC.
What's keeping me from buying XC is that battery endurance rating is 73h, worse that Galaxy S8, vs 108h for the XZ1C as stated in GSM Arena. And the loudness of the speakers.
If XZ2 Compact really will be anounced in MWC 2018, about 10 days from now, think i'll wait to see if it is worth it. (rumors say that XZ2C will be 5" screen, fingerprint sensor in the back and no 3.5mm earphone plug, and those for me are a no go)
Thank you.
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well Oreo has a big effect on battery life, since I upgraded my xc to oreo it easily lasts about 12 more hours with normal usage...
and although I agree with you about xz2c being like that, I think 5" display would be on a bezel-less front and for headphone jack, there are plenty of type-c to 3.5mm connectors that are very cheap and tiny and easy to use, so if no 3.5mm jack means less bezels, Im totaly on for it....
also, rumors say that there might be an acoustic display on xz2c, its just rumors but man that one thing is SOMETHING!

Kianush said:
well Oreo has a big effect on battery life, since I upgraded my xc to oreo it easily lasts about 12 more hours with normal usage...
and although I agree with you about xz2c being like that, I think 5" display would be on a bezel-less front and for headphone jack, there are plenty of type-c to 3.5mm connectors that are very cheap and tiny and easy to use, so if no 3.5mm jack means less bezels, Im totaly on for it....
also, rumors say that there might be an acoustic display on xz2c, its just rumors but man that one thing is SOMETHING!
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Good day.
I probably will be going to buy an XCompact until xz2C is available in my country.
You could be right about XZ2C. If the rumors are true that they will be using the same phone size and increase the screen.
Acoustic display would be nice in this phone , As long as it does not affect battery life.

Hansoliv said:
Good day.
I probably will be going to buy an XCompact until xz2C is available in my country.
You could be right about XZ2C. If the rumors are true that they will be using the same phone size and increase the screen.
Acoustic display would be nice in this phone , As long as it does not affect battery life.
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well xz2c pictures have been leaked and you could check them out if you havent already,
unfortunatly no acoustic display is a no,
bye bye headphone jack!
bezels are not much less than older phones,
and its reeeaaaly thick!!
maybe hardware performance will make up for it but otherwise I'd say go for Xc and put the remaining money to better use! (true wireless headphones maybe!? )

Hey, compare all information about XC; XZ1c and XZ2c here
I still prefer xz1c, for god's sake, 168g isn't a compact, it's a brick! see no advantages

What the f*ck is Sony doing? Very disappointed :crying:
Xz2 compact is not compact anymore. Thick (12mm), tall (135mm), :crying:
No headphone jack, fingerprint reader on the back. The only fast compact device on the market is dead.
Back to Samsung it is.

After reading about the XZ2 Compact changes, I'm tempted to upgrade my X Compact to an XZ1 Compact just to retain the final version of the good Compact form factor, WITH headphone port and side fingerprint sensor power button. As for XZ1 vs. X, the X is REALLY shiny and slippery, while the XZ1 is a nicer matte metal feel all around. That and a newer SOC and are the main upgrades since now both are on Oreo (though the XZ1 might get Android 9 support in the future, while the X may or may not)

Blue-Haze said:
Hey, compare all information about XC; XZ1c and XZ2c here
I still prefer xz1c, for god's sake, 168g isn't a compact, it's a brick! see no advantages
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Hi,
On your link it says no notification led. Is this true ?? Right now i am happy with my x compact, thinking about an upgrade in a few months maybe but if the new one does not have a led for notification i will be quite lost !!
Thanks

neopbm said:
Hi,
On your link it says no notification led. Is this true ?? Right now i am happy with my x compact, thinking about an upgrade in a few months maybe but if the new one does not have a led for notification i will be quite lost !!
Thanks
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Actually this information is missing. You can see the led notification in rigth corner, here

is there a real difference in photo quality between Xc and Xz1C ?
I am interested in the 2, but the 100 € difference make me hesitate.
What I appreciate above all is a correct autonomy and good photo quality.
What is the best in photo quality?