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Anyone else phone just not smooth at all? I'm on latest 7.0 and my phone is so slow for a phone with these internals. I don't get it. Is there something I'm doing wrong. This phone all around has severally disappointed me. My edge is so slow that it makes the iPhone seem fast. What do I do? Seems like memory management is still poor and this processor was weak, I would have been happier with an 8 core exynos vs 4 core snap 821

kennypow3rs said:
Anyone else phone just not smooth at all? I'm on latest 7.0 and my phone is so slow for a phone with these internals. I don't get it. Is there something I'm doing wrong. This phone all around has severally disappointed me. My edge is so slow that it makes the iPhone seem fast. What do I do? Seems like memory management is still poor and this processor was weak, I would have been happier with an 8 core exynos vs 4 core snap 821
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It's a Samsung with Samsung bloatware.. It's going to always have lag unfortunately. I've had almost every major Android phone since the HTC Hero that includes iPhone as well and Samsung is constantly the laggiest although my S7 edge has been pretty good still no where near an iPhone or pixel
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Try downloading package disabler pro and disabling some crapware
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brandoncheney05 said:
It's a Samsung with Samsung bloatware.. It's going to always have lag unfortunately. I've had almost every major Android phone since the HTC Hero that includes iPhone as well and Samsung is constantly the laggiest although my S7 edge has been pretty good still no where near an iPhone or pixel
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Try downloading package disabler pro and disabling some crapware
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Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.

kennypow3rs said:
Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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That's what I did! Nova and 0 animations is a huge improvement. I'm considering trading my S7 Edge for a Moto G5 Plus next Friday just to ditch bloatware
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brandoncheney05 said:
That's what I did! Nova and 0 animations is a huge improvement. I'm considering trading my S7 Edge for a Moto G5 Plus next Friday just to ditch bloatware
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That wouldn't be a bad idea. I was trying to hold off to see what new phones sprint gets in a month or 2 but it's driving me nuts with this phone. Google really killed my dreams by not getting the pixel and XL to all carriers.

kennypow3rs said:
That wouldn't be a bad idea. I was trying to hold off to see what new phones sprint gets in a month or 2 but it's driving me nuts with this phone. Google really killed my dreams by not getting the pixel and XL to all carriers.
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I'm on Sprint as well and know what you mean but you can still use the unlocked pixel on Sprint at least but hopefully next one won't be a Verizon exclusive
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kennypow3rs said:
Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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If the S8 is anything like the Note 7, I'll gladly move to it. I'll pay the fee to get rid of the S7E and move to the S8Plus.

nosympathy said:
If the S8 is anything like the Note 7, I'll gladly move to it. I'll pay the fee to get rid of the S7E and move to the S8Plus.
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Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...

kennypow3rs said:
Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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Hadn't heard about that, looked it up, sadly it appears we're not going to get it in the US.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/03/28/samsung-wont-release-a-refurbished-galaxy-note-7-in-the-us/
Only thing about the S8+ I won't like is the lack of a stylus. Tomorrows the revealing IIRC so I'll be anxious to see if that changes. I really wish it would and the bigger phone gets a stylus.

nosympathy said:
Hadn't heard about that, looked it up, sadly it appears we're not going to get it in the US.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/03/28/samsung-wont-release-a-refurbished-galaxy-note-7-in-the-us/
Only thing about the S8+ I won't like is the lack of a stylus. Tomorrows the revealing IIRC so I'll be anxious to see if that changes. I really wish it would and the bigger phone gets a stylus.
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So no Note 7 refurb in the US? Wow that's weak. That article I saw was a bit misleading I guess. It made it seem like world wide they would sell. I'm sure the refurbs will probably land on eBay but that's a full price phone is rather lease. Well, here's to hoping the s8 and s8+ live up to the hype since other Android​ OEMs aren't technically iPhone killers. Samsung is but they definitely suck in everything but hardware...

kennypow3rs said:
Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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S7 Edge has the 820, not the 821, even though the only difference between the 2 is like a 10% increase in performance due to slightly higher clock speeds in the cores & gpu. What you are experiencing man is typical Samsung lag due to all of the damn bloat on the device. I've been using a HTC 10 the past couple weeks that I bought from someone on Let Go for only $200 due to the misses breaking her Moto X Pure. I gave her my S7 Edge to use until she upgrades to the S8+ next month & was going to resume using my Edge then but nope not now! The 820 is very smooth & efficient on here with virtually no lag at all & also I'm fully rooted. Only thing I miss is using Samsung Pay & earning reward points but that's only a small sacrifice, besides I can still use Android Pay & while rooted too thanks to Magisk & if I need to return to stock for any reason I don't have to worry about no stupid KNOX crippling core features on the phone & driving down its resale value. My S7 Edge will be going up for sale!
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Have you tried turning 2 of your cores off? I'm sure that would significantly help you with your extensive battery drainage.

godpowerrr said:
Have you tried turning 2 of your cores off? I'm sure that would significantly help you with your extensive battery drainage.
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Turn off 2 of 4 cores? That would make the lag even worse. With 4 cores this phones lag is horrible I couldn't imagine only using 2 cores ie power save etc lol.

kennypow3rs said:
Turn off 2 of 4 cores? That would make the lag even worse. With 4 cores this phones lag is horrible I couldn't imagine only using 2 cores ie power save etc lol.
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Wow. You're mistaken. Try rooting and applying govtuner or you can continue to suffer haha
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godpowerrr said:
Wow. You're mistaken. Try rooting and applying govtuner or you can continue to suffer haha
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Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.

kennypow3rs said:
Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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If you put forth the effort to eliminate the constant issues you're having, because its possible, then you wouldn't be so stressed and irritated. If you're holding on to it for a while, why not tweak it instead of doing absolutely nothing. :cyclops:

kennypow3rs said:
Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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Have you gone through and checked which apps could be causing the lag? (Facebook comes to mind)! I haven't rooted either and my phone has no lag. It's almost always some app that's draining resources.

The lag culprit has been found!!!
Just as I expected, the lag is do to thermal throttling. I get extremely low benchmark scores, like a little over half what I should be getting. Ran the benchmark programs with my phone in a cup of icewater.. My scores doubled.
I am on a S7 Edge 7.0 rooted android. How can I change my thermal throttling settings? Is there a script or a program to address this?
3D Mark Sling Shot Extreme Android benchmark test results:
No ice: 1549 (I got around this number every time without ice)
With ice: 2627

promega said:
Ran the benchmark programs with my phone in a cup of icewater.. My scores doubled.
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This just made me LOL ?
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Developer option to fix laggggg.
I found an option in developer options that seems to help a lot. It is called do not keep activities. These seems to help keep the ui from clogging up with old worthless data which seems to slow android or at least samsung phones down to the point you have to reset them. I am typing right now like it's an iPhone. I have a galaxy s6 currently but I doubt it has changed. The developer options has to be enabled and if memory serves you tap 7 times on the software info so.ew here in the settings. I am sure it's easily found on the net. Hope this helps.

Did you regret buying the S8+ ?

I saw lot of people complaining about the S8 plus, some are saying the phone is very fragile, others doesnt like at all the new screen ratio, aggressive RAM management....etc
Well i'm curious and want to know if the S8 plus is really a flop,how is your experience with this device ?

I love mine. Some things are a bit annoying (The swipe feature on the keyboard is extremely inaccurate, every so often the phone will pause while loading an app for a few seconds) but no phone is perfect, the S8+ is close though.
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Well ......
I own the device for about a week and I have to say that it covers almost all of my needs but:
1. The battery life is worse than the S7 Edge or 1+3T (at least for me)
2. S8+ feels a little bit boring after a while
Overall, I didn't regret at all since it is nearly perfect

t-shock said:
Well ......
I own the device for about a week and I have to say that it covers almost all of my needs but:
1. The battery life is worse than the S7 Edge or 1+3T (at least for me)
2. S8+ feels a little bit boring after a while
Overall, I didn't regret at all since it is nearly perfect
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Is your battery really worse? My S8+ has nearly triple the battery life that I was getting on my S7!

t-shock said:
Well ......
I own the device for about a week and I have to say that it covers almost all of my needs but:
1. The battery life is worse than the S7 Edge or 1+3T (at least for me)
2. S8+ feels a little bit boring after a while
Overall, I didn't regret at all since it is nearly perfect
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So you had the 3T ? Why did you sold it ?

_Dennis_ said:
I love mine. Some things are a bit annoying (The swipe feature on the keyboard is extremely inaccurate, every so often the phone will pause while loading an app for a few seconds) but no phone is perfect, the S8+ is close though.
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The built in swipe keyboard is horrible, ended up putting gboard on it.

NO, not a single issue with it so far and had it since day one. I believe a lot of the issues can be attributed to user and not the phone.

Don't think I regret it, but the only reason I switched from my iPhone 6S Plus is because I was bored.
Usability and speed (Other than the occasional Android lag) is about the same for my use. (Emails, messaging and like 1 game, FateGO)
So I feel like the money I paid for what I gained isn't exactly proportionate, but it's been a while since I used Android as my main phone, so I decided to jump back for a bit. it's been good.
Having to worry about screen protectors that fit my case is dumb tho.
Also smart unlock with my Bluetooth headphones makes up for the fingerprint scanner being on the back of android phones.

I'm not crazy about the waterfall screen but I'm getting used to it.
Otherwise I love it. Picked it up for$725 can't go wrong at that price

subyfan said:
Is your battery really worse? My S8+ has nearly triple the battery life that I was getting on my S7!
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Well my S8+ gets me around 4-5 hours SOT while my S7Edge got me 6-7 hours SOT
My OnePlus3T gave me about the same SOT with the S7E
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So you had the 3T ? Why did you sold it ?
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Yes I had it
I sold it because it was to boring, the camera was pretty bad and the battery (without any modification and dual SIM always on) was horrible

Dont regret the phone, i love it, but i regret having more **** on downpayment in my life..

I was worried about what I was going to see in this post because I just ordered mine and expect it on Wednesday. I'm glad to see it is mostly positive reviews.

This is the best phone I ever had. The FD version seems to be the worst, tho coz the battery life is not as amazing as F or U version, but still get me thru the day. But android is boring me somehow. im willin to change to iphone again. After 7 years on adnroid, i want to try ios

gsosure said:
I was worried about what I was going to see in this post because I just ordered mine and expect it on Wednesday. I'm glad to see it is mostly positive reviews.
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Share your experience with us after you get the device

Hmmm NOPE.. Lol

I came from a v20 and that was a bad phone and I regret ever getting the phone. I decided to give Samsung a try, even though I hated Samsung. I got the Exynos version and boy do I love it! Although it has the pink/red hue on the sides, I don't notice it after a while using it. I did minimize it by changing the display colors a little bit.
Over all I love it. It's super fast on AT&T and I'm able to root. So far LOVE it!.

I'm not regretting buying the phone at all. Everything works great, the speaker is really loud and im averaging around 6 1/2 to 7 hours of SOT at 3/4 brightness. I bought the G955U1 Snapdragon US unlocked version and I actually got one with a perfect screen without the red hue. I wish it were the old aspect ratio as I really wanted a larger device but I can live with the size. If the new Note is larger when it comes out I'll probably give the S8+ to the wife and get the Note but only if it's around a 6.5 incher or larger.

Cruzaders said:
This is the best phone I ever had. The FD version seems to be the worst, tho coz the battery life is not as amazing as F or U version, but still get me thru the day. But android is boring me somehow. im willin to change to iphone again. After 7 years on adnroid, i want to try ios
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This isn't true at all. FD version is quite good on battery. I've gone all day on this. SOT about 7 hours.

Sort of. The screen of 8+ is so minute compare to my 6.8" Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra. Am thinking going back to Zenfone 3 Ultra now. Other than this I think its a good phone to keep though.

I have had mine a week today, about to go back to the store with it as it has the redish tint down each side of the screen and its driving me nuts! Even after playing with the settings i still feel like I can see it. I have come from a 6P and to be honest the 2 things i really miss is the width of the 6P, the keyboard was a bit more spaced out and i made less mistakes with my fat fingers... the 2nd thing is the updates direct from google...I was running the Android O beta on it... and now i am running 7.0?! I did look at the Pixel XL when making my choice but it just felt like a step back when you stood in front of the S8 and Pixel, i mean - no wireless charging which i have to say is one of the best features for me with this phone, i have wireless charging points at home and work and so i never run out of power and it is so quick!

Should i buy OP5 or S8 ?

Well damn, i never thought that i would make that comparison. But here it is ruining my mind because each phone has its strong and weak points.
Each phone is available to be and i can buy for a disparity of 100 euros (OP5500, S8 600). I am also talking about the exynos model.
Why i consider buying OP5:
Blazingly fast, i know that even facebook wont stutter.
Great battery.
Good camera at daylight and great selfie.( I dont really take much pictures but when i do its mostly on selfie or daylight and the differences arent that noticable in that aspect).
I actually like its design.
Front facing and fast FP.
Why i consider S8;
Waterproof/Dustproof.
Cant beat that design.
One of the best cameras in android.
The only reason holding me back is the battery and laggy touchwiz. I have gotten in my hands s8's and every single one has occasional stutters and lags on daily apps. I dont know if touchwiz can be improved but i have seen it with my own eyes all this time and samsung regarding speed needs to do a lot more work.
So i hope that you can see my points and offer some oppinions on this matter. Thank you all!
Edit; I have seen jelly on videos but i dont think that it will affect me in any way. what i fear is that it might get worse though as time passes.

I would say OP5 simply because it doesn't have touchwiz lol
I'm trying to sell my Pixel XL and then I will be (re)-purchasing the OP5. I buy phones mainly for the software experience and the amount of development available for OP devices is incredible.
Personally, I feel the only thing the S8 has going for it is the screen/design and I suppose camera - but these are all subjective. It's not enough for me to want to choose the S8 over the 5.
Just my two cents

I kind of share your thoughts but still not enough to convince me about it, i mean if i see a op5t in the next few months this phone will loose entirely its net worth.

I have both devices .... go for the op5 unless you really care about having a bigger screen.

100% the Oneplus 5.
Whatever you think you're going to get more of on the s8 you'll miss out on so much more compared to the 1+

I made my choice for de 128gb op5 when I could get the gs8 a bit cheaper.
The waterproofness was my main reason to go for the Samsung, I don't value camera very much.
I might be a bit weird but I prefer the design on the op5, not that many people will have it and a Snapdragon for development is a must

Hi, I was also on the fence, I went for OP5 too, for a few reasons :
-Developpement, really important of the Android fun for me.
- Software, TW may be getting better but it is still really a lot of stuff, and I don't like the doubling of features. Thinking about the assistant in particular, since I don't even use Google's. The dedicated Bixby button really is silly for this case.
- I saw an article where people could vote for how much the like photos, blind. OP5 came ahead of S8 (but after LG G6). So it is at least as good.
- Developpement!

testreaper said:
The only reason holding me back is the battery and laggy touchwiz. I have gotten in my hands s8's and every single one has occasional stutters and lags on daily apps. I dont know if touchwiz can be improved but i have seen it with my own eyes all this time and samsung regarding speed needs to do a lot more work.
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Well, Right there, that's your answer. lol don't be fooled, people have been saying that about Touch Wiz for years. "Maybe they can work on it more", but every version is the same, buggy and laggy. Don't hold your breath on that going away with some update.

I owned a Galaxy S7 and at first was really satisfied. Before that I always owned Nexus phones.
The S7 had lot of nice features and good camera. S8 also has... BUT after a few months I just hated the device for TouchWiz lags and massive bloat. Overall experience just wasn't great. S7 had over 350 services/apps installed without user apps. A lot of what you probably never need. And if you start disabling things, battery life just gets even worse.
So go for an OP5 and enjoy the smoothness and development possibilities .

xabierd said:
I made my choice for de 128gb op5 when I could get the gs8 a bit cheaper.
The waterproofness was my main reason to go for the Samsung, I don't value camera very much.
I might be a bit weird but I prefer the design on the op5, not that many people will have it and a Snapdragon for development is a must
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You do know that the Oneplus has some waterproofing? Not certified of course but it's been seen many times on YouTube being fully submerged for over a minute, no problems at all. Apple did the same thing.

Yeah I didn't realize the OP5 was more or less water resistant. There are a bunch of YouTube videos of people doing water tests though, so it definitely seems to be water resistant! That's was one of my few iffy things about it, but I feel much more assured knowing that a quick dip or spill won't fry it.

They never show the OnePlus a couple of days later after being in the water. To show if it truly holds up. I think if the OnePlus was really water resistant they would say it cause it would be a huge selling part.
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I have both I love the OnePlus cause of dash charging and dual SIM capabilities. I love the S8+ for wireless charging and being truly water resistant.
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ahenderson223 said:
They never show the OnePlus a couple of days later after being in the water. To show if it truly holds up. I think if the OnePlus was really water resistant they would say it cause it would be a huge selling part.
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Three of the videos I found had follow-up videos showing the phone and everything still working. One was after a few days, one was after a couple weeks, and one was just last week (two months after the water test).

dladz said:
You do know that the Oneplus has some waterproofing? Not certified of course but it's been seen many times on YouTube being fully submerged for over a minute, no problems at all. Apple did the same thing.
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I use a Sony Xperia z3c for cycling, which often means rain in the road and mud when I mountainbike. The oneplus is not quite ready to replace de Sony ?

OnePlus 5 for better battery life, performance, smoothness, perceived shell temperature, ram management, oxygen os. Camera is good if there's light.
My last Samsung phones were s6 edge and galaxy s7. Both with ram management issues and on both I could fry eggs (exynos). I can't trust another flagship from Samsung, especially with glass back.. And a short hands-on with s8. The same camera as s7, same amount of ram (=> not that good ram management). For sure i cannot stand that fingerprint position, the glass back and the edges!

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I kind of share your thoughts but still not enough to convince me about it, i mean if i see a op5t in the next few months this phone will loose entirely its net worth.
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I don't think there will be enough upgrades to make a 5T in the same form factor, the 3t had a camera, soc and battery upgrade, the op5 won't be able to get the last one in the same form factor and the first two might but then they'd probably save that for the OP6

I sell Samsung s8 plus for buy oneplus 5 and dont look back, oneplus 5 is better
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I was in the same doubt.
I chosen OP5 for:
no touchwiz
no edge display (cool but unsuitable)
snapdragon
dual sim
top level in all features (or almost top)
After 1 month with OP5 im totally happy

One more thing:
I used an s6 edge for a while and the edge screen was the worst of it's features because of accidental touches and simply no useful additions.
It really drove me crazy

had the s8 dual variant. it was sexy as hell.. after two weeks samsung experience bored me altought it had lots of uselful features. I was into custom roms.. more into AOSP/LOS based that is. so I returned it and got a 128gb op5. never looked back
camera quality on both phones are superb. s8 has a slightly better quality tho. but I love the op5's camera overall.
plus the s8's body is really fragile.

{Question} Should i wait for the 6GB variant or get the 4GB?

I waited too long for the 6GB variant but my patience is at the end now. I recently got the Real Me 1 6GB/128 and that phone is pure bull**** in terms of software (kinda love stock os), crappy iOS looks, bad features like can't see battery sot, no unlock bootloader option for OPPO phones etc. I returned it back to Amazon.
I'm still waiting for the 6GB variant, I already had Redmi Note 5 pro so I wouldn't get that same device again, tired of miui and flashing roms so gave it to my bro.
Should I wait or get the 4GB? 6GB phone launch timeline was Mid June but I don't see it in next sale too. I know nobody knows that in real but I'm desperate to get a new phone. Help or suggestions please? Next phone is Mi A2 which will also be stock Android but no idea when it will be released.

I'm waiting too for the 6gb variant, read somewhere that they started production of the 6gb variant after announcing it, so I guess will take a while, I'm going for the 4gb variant this Thursday because can't wait any longer now!

kewlest22 said:
I'm waiting too for the 6gb variant, read somewhere that they started production of the 6gb variant after announcing it, so I guess will take a while, I'm going for the 4gb variant this Thursday because can't wait any longer now!
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I think I can't wait anymore too. I'm sure I'll regret getting the 4GB model and later will get the 6GB at a loss of selling the older one. Still trying to control myself.
I wish we had more such phones on stock Android.

Daruwalla said:
I think I can't wait anymore too. I'm sure I'll regret getting the 4GB model and later will get the 6GB at a loss of selling the older one. Still trying to control myself.
I wish we had more such phones on stock Android.
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agreed, I'd have taken realme1 in a heartbeat had it have unlockable bootloader or stock android out of the box.
I too know I'll regret not going for the high end model because the processor is weak and I'm coming from a snapdragon 820 so it'll feel slow for sure, atleast 6gb ram would be a good thing if I could get it

kewlest22 said:
agreed, I'd have taken realme1 in a heartbeat had it have unlockable bootloader or stock android out of the box.
I too know I'll regret not going for the high end model because the processor is weak and I'm coming from a snapdragon 820 so it'll feel slow for sure, atleast 6gb ram would be a good thing if I could get it
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Let's hope we could get one each in the upcoming sale. Good luck.

Daruwalla said:
Let's hope we could get one each in the upcoming sale. Good luck.
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Wait for the 6GB version. I have a 3 GB version and am regretting the buy. The software is down right pathetic and buggy. There are stutters all over,its super laggy. I mean, its to the point of being disgusting. The cameras are beyond pathetic. I heard they have a different module on the 6gb version. Also the battery is crappy. The launcher is ****load of crap. And their official forum "zentalk" is well....crap!! I mean, spend your money some where else if you can or wait for the release of Lenovo z5 or Mi8 SE. Telling you guys, dont buy this piece of junk.
Also, My main driver is the OP6, so I suppose this brick's performance comes out even ****tier. Sad part is cashify does not give on offer for this paper weight and for selling on ebay, you require GSTIN. My two cents......Stay away from ASUS only.

mehtasu said:
Wait for the 6GB version. I have a 3 GB version and am regretting the buy. The software is down right pathetic and buggy. There are stutters all over,its super laggy. I mean, its to the point of being disgusting. The cameras are beyond pathetic. I heard they have a different module on the 6gb version. Also the battery is crappy. The launcher is ****load of crap. And their official forum "zentalk" is well....crap!! I mean, spend your money some where else if you can or wait for the release of Lenovo z5 or Mi8 SE. Telling you guys, dont buy this piece of junk.
Also, My main driver is the OP6, so I suppose this brick's performance comes out even ****tier. Sad part is cashify does not give on offer for this paper weight and for selling on ebay, you require GSTIN. My two cents......Stay away from ASUS only.
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That's a very strong review of the phone. I have been using it for more than a month ago and while it doesn't compare to the fastness and quality of the OP6, the Zenfone Pro M1 is a remarkable phone.. The software is definitely not buggy or lagging, the cameras are definitely good in this price range (maybe the front camera is not upto the mark), battery is defintely good giving about 10 hours SOT/2days moderate use. ZENtalk is definitely crap - that's why we have XDA and the launcher can always be replaced with NOVA or LAWNCHAIR. Either you have got a defective phone or you are just trying to bad mouth a very good value for money phone.

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That's a very strong review of the phone. I have been using it for more than a month ago and while it doesn't compare to the fastness and quality of the OP6, the Zenfone Pro M1 is a remarkable phone.. The software is definitely not buggy or lagging, the cameras are definitely good in this price range (maybe the front camera is not upto the mark), battery is defintely good giving about 10 hours SOT/2days moderate use. ZENtalk is definitely crap - that's why we have XDA and the launcher can always be replaced with NOVA or LAWNCHAIR. Either you have got a defective phone or you are just trying to bad mouth a very good value for money phone.
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Stop being a fanboy, no good comes out of such an attitude. And stop making these insinuations. If you don't agree then say so and leave it at that. Now coming back to the point.Its not remarkable, its down right pathetic. It stutters everywhere except the App drawer. Gosh even the dialer stutters. The google cards stutter,Facebook....don't even get me started on that. Cameras are pathetic and nothing can improve that situation, not even GCAM. It can certainly make it it better but to a limited extent. The battery is not optomized at all. SOT is around 7-8 hours on avg, but the question, that quite pathetic from a 5000 Mah battery. Finger print and Face Unlock is also pathetic and it speaks volume that they had to release three updates to make it work and still can't get them to work properly. My two cent. take it or leave it.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/06/21/6gb-ram-asus-zenfone-max-pro-m1-seen-on-flipkart/

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I waited too long for the 6GB variant but my patience is at the end now. I recently got the Real Me 1 6GB/128 and that phone is pure bull**** in terms of software (kinda love stock os), crappy iOS looks, bad features like can't see battery sot, no unlock bootloader option for OPPO phones etc. I returned it back to Amazon.
I'm still waiting for the 6GB variant, I already had Redmi Note 5 pro so I wouldn't get that same device again, tired of miui and flashing roms so gave it to my bro.
Should I wait or get the 4GB? 6GB phone launch timeline was Mid June but I don't see it in next sale too. I know nobody knows that in real but I'm desperate to get a new phone. Help or suggestions please? Next phone is Mi A2 which will also be stock Android but no idea when it will be released.
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Is asus is planning to remove 6GB variant ?
they removed it from their website there is no sign of 6gb variant in indian official website
https://www.asus.com/in/Phone/ZenFone-Max-Pro-ZB601KL/Tech-Specs/

mehtasu said:
Stop being a fanboy, no good comes out of such an attitude. And stop making these insinuations. If you don't agree then say so and leave it at that. Now coming back to the point.Its not remarkable, its down right pathetic. It stutters everywhere except the App drawer. Gosh even the dialer stutters. The google cards stutter,Facebook....don't even get me started on that. Cameras are pathetic and nothing can improve that situation, not even GCAM. It can certainly make it it better but to a limited extent. The battery is not optomized at all. SOT is around 7-8 hours on avg, but the question, that quite pathetic from a 5000 Mah battery. Finger print and Face Unlock is also pathetic and it speaks volume that they had to release three updates to make it work and still can't get them to work properly. My two cent. take it or leave it.
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Ahh..well! I gave you my experience. You are free to take it whatever way you want. Maybe you should go through some youtube videos about the Zenfone Max Pro M1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqy6H_NpjL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvPnRPTAI
Maybe according to you, they are fanboys too.. Anyways “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"....So, I am out of here.. Cheers!

spunxhoe said:
Ahh..well! I gave you my experience. You are free to take it whatever way you want. Maybe you should go through some youtube videos about the Zenfone Max Pro M1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqy6H_NpjL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAvPnRPTAI
Maybe according to you, they are fanboys too.. Anyways “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"....So, I am out of here.. Cheers!
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Well, sadly all these review are worthless. They are more concerned about opening the app rather than the experience while using the APP. There is lag and stutter everywhere from the dialer, to google cards to facebook. Everything lags and its horrendous. Anyways, I know how to put in place people who are results of worthless procreation between individuals who were clearly not thinking properly at the time. . Cheers!!

mehtasu said:
Well, sadly all these review are worthless. They are more concerned about opening the app rather than the experience while using the APP. There is lag and stutter everywhere from the dialer, to google cards to facebook. Everything lags and its horrendous. Anyways, I know how to put in place people who are results of worthless procreation between individuals who were clearly not thinking properly at the time. . Cheers!!
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can you please at least record it when it stutters?
i dont have any stutters problem when using facebook and dialer (and other apps too)
and i dont think its laggy
maybe you have a deffect phone?
sorry for my bad english

aslam31319 said:
Is asus is planning to remove 6GB variant ?
they removed it from their website there is no sign of 6gb variant in indian official website
https://www.asus.com/in/Phone/ZenFone-Max-Pro-ZB601KL/Tech-Specs/
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I think the same, it seems they just fake promised the 6GB model. Anyway, I got Redmi Note 5 pro in the meantime back from my cousin ( just unlocked the bootloader and will flash custom rom to get rid of MIUI) will use it till Asus releases the 6GB version if EVER in future. I think I will be old, get married and couple of kids waiting for this phone.

mehtasu said:
Well, sadly all these review are worthless. They are more concerned about opening the app rather than the experience while using the APP. There is lag and stutter everywhere from the dialer, to google cards to facebook. Everything lags and its horrendous. Anyways, I know how to put in place people who are results of worthless procreation between individuals who were clearly not thinking properly at the time. . Cheers!!
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Don't blame Asus, blame Android. Even my Google pixel 2 XL sometimes take blind pictures cause of ram issues or reload apps. I can feel your pain, anything below 4GB ram is unacceptable in today's standard. That's one of the reason I'm waiting for 6GB variant.
I'm actually sold for a 15k phone with near about stock Android. If there's Mi A2 by Xiaomi before Asus releasing it, I will forget Asus and buy that phone.

OP8Pro vs S20+ Snapdragon model

So, I'm seriously considering the OP8pro over my current s20+. While the Samsung is nice, I find myself restarting the phone at least twice a week due it to crashing on apps like maps, waze, android auto, texting. This alone is irritating to say the least. Especially when on a road trip and your using AA and everything goes wonky. I've seen several videos, read the forums, etc etc...seems the OP has some issues but maybe some of it has been fixed? Anyone have experience with both devices and able to give me some feedback? I know I'm going to miss the AOD but OP says its coming. Some threads say the phone gets hot, bad battery drain and lackluster camera especially at night? But I love the oxygen software too. One UI is nice, but like I said, restarting the phone is a pain the the fingerprint sensor is garbage.
Any input would be helpful, thanks.

MHB1638 said:
So, I'm seriously considering the OP8pro over my current s20+. While the Samsung is nice, I find myself restarting the phone at least twice a week due it to crashing on apps like maps, waze, android auto, texting. This alone is irritating to say the least. Especially when on a road trip and your using AA and everything goes wonky. I've seen several videos, read the forums, etc etc...seems the OP has some issues but maybe some of it has been fixed? Anyone have experience with both devices and able to give me some feedback? I know I'm going to miss the AOD but OP says its coming. Some threads say the phone gets hot, bad battery drain and lackluster camera especially at night? But I love the oxygen software too. One UI is nice, but like I said, restarting the phone is a pain the the fingerprint sensor is garbage.
Any input would be helpful, thanks.
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a week ago I switched fm S20+ to OP8pro
s20+ was exynos though
Anyhow, I have no overheating problems and battery life is great.. currently I'm on 6h 40 min SOT with 21% juice left (4g + wifi, FHD+/120Hz ), so in theory I should reach 8hrs easily
S20+ would give me around 6hrs to 6.5hrs before dying and that was on wifi during covid lockdown. Presume yr snapdragon s20+ has better batt life
OP camera so far has been great, but truth being told I did not test the camera at night. Indoors and under artificial light the phones are comparable. S20+ camera was occasionally inconsistent, sometimes photos came out really great then again sometimes not really worth of a flagship
OP8Pro screen.... what to say, it is amazing under normal or bright light conditions
but.... as many others, also I have the black band in the status bar.. it is noticable only with certain darker backgrounds (grey...) and at minimum screen brightness..so I do not notice it during normal use, but it bothers me knowing it is there

Don't think many people here changed from S20+ to OP 8 PRO but i might help a bit since coming from a long journey with several Samsung's family in the past. ( S9+ my last one)
Never had any crashes with maps, waze or texting (never used android auto). You tried cleared cache on those apps ?
Not saying Samsung is good (or bad) .
On the OP8 Pro, don't have any drain and heating i consider normal when your pushing processor with games or GPS. ( related to S9+ )
There are complains all over the internet with any devices. Most people only post bad things but this alone doesn't make the phone bad (remember the huge number of people like myself with no problems at all don't come here saying good things )

Thank you guys for your inputs. It helps. Ordering me the Pro right now.

Had both S20+ and S20 ultra although both exynos I went straight back to 8 pro , Samsung's this time round just way off the mark total rubbish in my opinion [emoji28]
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MHB1638 said:
Thank you guys for your inputs. It helps. Ordering me the Pro right now.
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Wise choice! Your going to enjoy the ride...

Ordered the ultra, didn't come.
Saw the 8pro on three, got it, world's apart, it's just a better phone.
Rapid and great stamina. Plus it looks great. I can't fault it.