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Galaxy S4

Now that the Galaxy S4 has finally been unveiled are any of you planning to upgrade to it? It's definitely an upgrade from the S3, but not as much as I hoped it would be. Don't get me wrong, the screen is gorgeous and it obviously has more horsepower, but side by side next to an S3 you'd be hard pressed to know they're different phones by a quick glance.
My upgrade just came up and I was waiting on this phone but now I think I'm considering the Note II again due to the development it already has and it's (more than) stellar battery life. If the price drops soon due to the S4 release then I will most likely go pick it up. I was also thinking of waiting for the Note III but my patience is wearing thin...
Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqZQ7NgDSo

Crawshayi said:
Now that the Galaxy S4 has finally been unveiled are any of you planning to upgrade to it? It's definitely an upgrade from the S3, but not as much as I hoped it would be. Don't get me wrong, the screen is gorgeous and it obviously has more horsepower, but side by side next to an S3 you'd be hard pressed to know they're different phones by a quick glance.
My upgrade just came up and I was waiting on this phone but now I think I'm considering the Note II again due to the development it already has and it's (more than) stellar battery life. If the price drops soon due to the S4 release then I will most likely go pick it up. I was also thinking of waiting for the Note III but my patience is wearing thin...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqZQ7NgDSo
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honestly, I wasn't impressed with the s4. I'm more impressed with the note 2. that phone is and was kicking ass and taking names

Not really impressed only some minor changes here and there I'm happy whit my s3 even tho I might buy an htc one because it is very good looking phone !
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Boy that is one ugly phone
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shahkam said:
Not really impressed only some minor changes here and there I'm happy whit my s3 even tho I might buy an htc one because it is very good looking phone !
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The HTC One is amazing looking but has some serious drawbacks with no removable battery and no expandable storage. Also when the screen is on you will notice it actually has some pretty noticable black borders on the right and left side of the display making it look a lot smaller than it should... kind of an annoyance on an otherwise beautiful display

Crawshayi said:
The HTC One is amazing looking but has some serious drawbacks with no removable battery and no expandable storage. Also when the screen is on you will notice it actually has some pretty noticable black borders on the right and left side of the display making it look a lot smaller than it should... kind of an annoyance on an otherwise beautiful display
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Yeah well I'm not much of an heavy user so use of sdcard is not for me battery I can deal whit it but yeah I noticed the black borders its annoying. ..
I'm very curious about that 4 ultra mega pixel to see how it performs against other smarthphones currently out !
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Note Deuce FTMFW!!! On a side note, if the N2 is too big for some folks, I would get a S3 because its unlocked, plenty of development, and the S4 is not that huge of a upgrade imo...not to mention the S3 can be had for a reasonable price. I prefer the N2 because I have huge hands,amazing battery life, and 2gb of ram.

droidstyle said:
Note Deuce FTMFW!!! On a side note, if the N2 is too big for some folks, I would get a S3 because its unlocked, plenty of development, and the S4 is not that huge of a upgrade imo...not to mention the S3 can be had for a reasonable price. I prefer the N2 because I have huge hands,amazing battery life, and 2gb of ram.
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This is the way I'm leaning (GN2) because I have pretty big hands too so the size can be dealt with, but it might take a while to get used to that monster in my pocket (Fascinate is just so easy to pull out quick to check the time, etc).
The price really needs to drop before I pick it up though, $300 is just too much so if the GS4 releases with a $200 price point and the GN2 doesn't drop in price for whatever reason I will probably end up just getting the GS4. I know it's not a huge upgrade from the GS3 as you say, but the screen is noticeably bigger, brighter, and clearer to me plus it has a bigger battery. Those small upgrades alone are enough to sway me if the price isn't more than $200 (I could care less about all the gimmicky touchwiz stuff they showed off yesterday).
edit: scratch that, it's only $150 on amazon wireless so that pretty much changes things. I'm going to have to go and play with it a bit at the store and then make my decision.

shahkam said:
Yeah well I'm not much of an heavy user so use of sdcard is not for me battery I can deal whit it but yeah I noticed the black borders its annoying. ..
I'm very curious about that 4 ultra mega pixel to see how it performs against other smarthphones currently out !
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It's very nice and probably the best looking pictures/video I've ever seen on a smartphone yet. There's some test pictures/videos that pocketnow did on youtube, just search em up

I'm never upgrading I get no lag and I'm on the latest version of android what more could a guy ask for?
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bbrad said:
I'm never upgrading I get no lag and I'm on the latest version of android what more could a guy ask for?
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yes, but what happens if the fascinate isn't upgraded to key lime pie (or whatever the new android OS is)? the gnote2 will seriously be a long lasting phone with development going a long way.

ztotherad said:
yes, but what happens if the fascinate isn't upgraded to key lime pie (or whatever the new android OS is)? the gnote2 will seriously be a long lasting phone with development going a long way.
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Then I will upgrade but to a galaxy s4 but I'm not worried about it for at least another year because I can almost 99% tell you the fascinate is getting key lime pie that could probably last me another 2yrs why fix something if it ain't Brocken? If this fascinate is still running like grease lightning I feel no need to upgrade.
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bbrad said:
I'm never upgrading I get no lag and I'm on the latest version of android what more could a guy ask for?
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I know right ?... I'd have to buy something outright,,, never plan to get back into contract subsidizing again... page plus pricing and hard to beat this super portable? jb 4.2.2 beast ?
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yes, but what happens if the fascinate isn't upgraded to key lime pie (or whatever the new android OS is)? the gnote2 will seriously be a long lasting phone with development going a long way.
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My heart wants a note ii ?... But my wallet says g nexus i515 when prices fall to $120 or less ?
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hhp_211 said:
I know right ?... I'd have to buy something outright,,, never plan to get back into contract subsidizing again... page plus pricing and hard to beat this super portable? jb 4.2.2 beast ?
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My heart wants a note ii ?... But my wallet says g nexus i515 when prices fall to $120 or less ?
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yeah, I definitely want to pick up a gnex (cdma) in the future, or pick up the newer nexus phone (even if it's gsm)

Crawshayi said:
It's very nice and probably the best looking pictures/video I've ever seen on a smartphone yet. There's some test pictures/videos that pocketnow did on youtube, just search em up
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Its hard to notice the quality via a video having it in real life is even better..
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bbrad said:
I'm never upgrading I get no lag and I'm on the latest version of android what more could a guy ask for?
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For me personally I really want a bigger screen (at least 5") because I watch a lot of video on my phone (sometimes gaming too) and as nice as the Fascinate is, it's just not big enough (again, this is just me). The fact that we have the latest android is amazing and all our developers are top notch, but still I can feel the phone struggling sometimes, especially during multitasking, so it'll be nice to have a newer phone that has a bit more horsepower to run the latest and greatest. I also want a better camera, NFC, and improved call quality, which no matter what I do to the Fascinate I won't ever get those either. I also want to gift this phone to a friend of mine who doesn't really have the money to own a nice smartphone, so it'll make me feel good to give her an awesome phone that will still get updates to hold her over for some years.

shahkam said:
Its hard to notice the quality via a video having it in real life is even better..
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I agree. You might be interested in this little review I found on that thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikp_ETYuYjw

Crawshayi said:
I agree. You might be interested in this little review I found on that thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikp_ETYuYjw
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Will look onto that mate thanks for the link almost 3am
Sent From My HyperDrived S3.

Crawshayi said:
For me personally I really want a bigger screen (at least 5") because I watch a lot of video on my phone (sometimes gaming too) and as nice as the Fascinate is, it's just not big enough (again, this is just me). The fact that we have the latest android is amazing and all our developers are top notch, but still I can feel the phone struggling sometimes, especially during multitasking, so it'll be nice to have a newer phone that has a bit more horsepower to run the latest and greatest. I also want a better camera, NFC, and improved call quality, which no matter what I do to the Fascinate I won't ever get those either. I also want to gift this phone to a friend of mine who doesn't really have the money to own a nice smartphone, so it'll make me feel good to give her an awesome phone that will still get updates to hold her over for some years.
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don't forget the spen and multiwindow are very nice features on the n2 that the s4 wont have. don't get me wrong the s4 will be a solid device, but I would go with whatever you can get a better deal on. At this point the hardware is far more capable than the software on the latest devices.
bbrad, I absolutely cringe at the thought of trying to run key lime pie on the fascinate. If you ever used a device with 2gb of ram for a week you would never go back trust me. I go weeks on end without rebooting and my n2 keeps on flying. Its time to upgrade bro. The fascinate was a great device in its day, but now its just a piece of history imo. not to mention the iphone now has the same size screen lol...that there would make me run like hell!!

droidstyle said:
don't forget the spen and multiwindow are very nice features on the n2 that the s4 wont have. don't get me wrong the s4 will be a solid device, but I would go with whatever you can get a better deal on. At this point the hardware is far more capable than the software on the latest devices.
bbrad, I absolutely cringe at the thought of trying to run key lime pie on the fascinate. If you ever used a device with 2gb of ram for a week you would never go back trust me. I go weeks on end without rebooting and my n2 keeps on flying. Its time to upgrade bro. The fascinate was a great device in its day, but now its just a piece of history imo. not to mention the iphone now has the same size screen lol...that there would make me run like hell!!
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People cringed at 4.2 on the fascinate remember when everyone said it would be horrible and laggy? Look at us now I haven't rebooted my fascinate for a week still no lag I've used many big ram devices like the n4 let's put it this way my phone on AOKP is faster than most of these newer devices on stock lol and I can't upgrade anyway I'm 14 and I. Can't exactly start a new contract due to I won't be able to pay for it so I would have to outright buy a phone and I don't have the money to do that
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lag lag lag

I just tried out a S4 in a store and closed all the apps it was running and then did some test to see if it was smooth.
I also tried out the HTC one. I prefer the S4, but the dang lag is still there. This is from someone coming from a Galaxy S1. Everyone in my family has an iphone or windows phone (which run really smooth) and I was hoping that with the new processor speeds and 2 gigs of ram it would be possible to let this phone run flawelessly.. Well I was wrong..
Going through the app pages it was lagging. The contact app again took some time to open etc.. If you have the 16 GB version of this phone around 8 gigs is already taken etc.. this is dissapointing.
I hope someone is gonna make a rom that runs a different launcher then touchwiz and keeps most features the S4 has to offer.. Having said that, they should remove tons of unnecessary stuff that just slows the phone down... Also strange that of the 2 gigs of ram almost 1 gig is already taken.
The galaxy s1 had 300 mb taken, so why this huge increase?

because the S4 have so much more features it makes the GS1 obsolete lol it even does that to GS3

yes but surely not 800 mb ram worth of new features...

Blackwolf10 said:
because the S4 have so much more features it makes the GS1 obsolete lol it even does that to GS3
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What does this have to do with what OP posted? My G3 lags also, not nearly as badly as G1 but the lag is there.
The reason so much ram is taken up is because Android + TW + unoptimized apps are a resource hogging combo. This is why my next phone is a Nexus - to minimize this crap.

The most lag talk interestingly comes from 'I tested in the store' comments and out of the box, owners having it for a few days only talk of micro stutters here and there, most reviews call it smooth. Interesting observations divided in groups.

I imagine the store one being always on and always used by customers will not help. But samsung really need to work on optimising the stuff they have now instead of just throwing more on it.

Metusion said:
yes but surely not 800 mb ram worth of new features...
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Root delete anything you don't like

I run nova launcher. Don't lose any functionality. It run smooth
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dohturdima said:
What does this have to do with what OP posted? My G3 lags also, not nearly as badly as G1 but the lag is there.
The reason so much ram is taken up is because Android + TW + unoptimized apps are a resource hogging combo. This is why my next phone is a Nexus - to minimize this crap.
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My sister's GS3 is smoth as butter even my GS2 is and i meant new apps and features are taking away free ram
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ste1164 said:
I imagine the store one being always on and always used by customers will not help. But samsung really need to work on optimising the stuff they have now instead of just throwing more on it.
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you are right but keep in mind that new features are samsung's key of selling imagine saying The galaxy s5 the phone that optimised everything that GS4 lagged on not a lot would want that but a mix of both in new updates would be good best of both worlds

Blackwolf10 said:
My sister's GS3 is smoth as butter even my GS2 is and i meant new apps and features are taking away free ram
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you are right but keep in mind that new features are samsung's key of selling imagine saying The galaxy s5 the phone that optimised everything that GS4 lagged on not a lot would want that but a mix of both in new updates would be good best of both worlds
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I agree but the end user experience will suck and people wont like it. I imagine an update will fix it later on. But the average customer may never bother to update their phone so they will be stuck with the lag whilst their iPhone friends who have generally smooth phones. (Extreme case but still )

ste1164 said:
I agree but the end user experience will suck and people wont like it. I imagine an update will fix it later on. But the average customer may never bother to update their phone so they will be stuck with the lag whilst their iPhone friends who have generally smooth phones. (Extreme case but still )
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i don't think the average customers are bothered by updates or lag they can Air gesture the s*** out of their iphone friends

BoneXDA said:
The most lag talk interestingly comes from 'I tested in the store' comments and out of the box, owners having it for a few days only talk of micro stutters here and there, most reviews call it smooth. Interesting observations divided in groups.
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well I hope so.. but the HTC one was on too and I was testing it in the store.. butter smooth

BoneXDA said:
The most lag talk interestingly comes from 'I tested in the store' comments and out of the box, owners having it for a few days only talk of micro stutters here and there, most reviews call it smooth. Interesting observations divided in groups.
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Smoothest phone I have ever owned. I have yet to see any lag. And my definition of lag is any hang of 1 - 2 seconds or greater. Tiny little stutters of less then a second maybe I have seen a couple of times. I have played several intensive games that didn't even think about lagging. N4Speed, Asphalt 7, Modern Combat 3 and 4 to name a few. It is WAY faster than my S1 and S2. It is faster than my S3 also.

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i don't think the average customers are bothered by updates or lag they can Air gesture the s*** out of their iphone friends
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Well if the general consumer cares for those things then they can although they are also a bit iffy at the moment apparently.
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Well I just left iPhone world. I love this galaxy s4, this ***** rocks. I let my wife use it and now she wants me to take her iPhone. Haha. My phones nice and smooth and the big screen, Swype, awesome camera just add more love to the situation.

Even the iphones lag my friend's iphone 4s lags so badly and the 5 has screen sensitivity issues. It doesn't register swipes and taps 20% of the time...

If all the bloatware is disabled in App Manager, is there a possibility that more RAM is available. Or the only way for more RAM is to root and delete all the bloatware?

duykhang524 said:
Even the iphones lag my friend's iphone 4s lags so badly and the 5 has screen sensitivity issues. It doesn't register swipes and taps 20% of the time...
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Never seen an iPhone 5 lag. The lag of the S4 can be solved by removing all unnecessary features, and doing a little bit of tweaking.

nageshv24 said:
If all the bloatware is disabled in App Manager, is there a possibility that more RAM is available. Or the only way for more RAM is to root and delete all the bloatware?
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What's the available ram?
Swyped from another galaxy

skivnit said:
What's the available ram?
Swyped from another galaxy
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not bought the phone yet. Assuming that most the RAM is used by the bloatware, what is the use of having 2GB of ram? I wanna know if this affects the overall performance of the phone and is there a way by disabling all the unnecessary features without rooting.

Anyone else concerned about lag (touch wiz)?

Phone Arena's head to head comparison show that the iPhone and G3 launch apps faster. I can't believe Samsung puts in the best phone processor, but had no care for the end user of a fluid experience, and appears to have put in zero work in making touch wiz faster. Any thoughts?

If that's the case, then I'm sticking to my m8. I couldn't stand that on the note 3.
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I was running some tests on a HP Gen8 server sometime back, it was taking time and sort of freezing a few times.
It had 512GB of RAM, quite a few Xeon processors and tons of other stuffs. It was still "lagging" in many tests.
Do you think I should take this server out and put Moto X, as apparently it doesn't lag.
Samsung phones do a lot more than any other phone. There are many options that you can use in Samsung phone that you won't ever find it a simple phone. And hence there is a tradeoff. It's the law of nature. The very idea of getting a Samsung phone is that you are not getting a normal bare-bone stock device. It's has bells and whistles. It your objective is to have a phone with bare minimum features, get some other phone.
If you get a Samsung phone you might see delay of 0.5 sec for some basic thing, not that I ever care about them. Not it's for your to decide whether you are interested in that half-second of time or do you think those added functionality is more important to you. Just a simple trick like slide to call/SMS is such amazing in a Samsung device.

i cant stand my G3. note 3 didnt lag as much as this pos

Meh, it's a demo model, we don't know which processor it had in it, and it's running a pre-production unit of the new touch wiz. That, and half those tests were bunk, email on the G3 had 2 emails, the note 4 had about 100, same with Gallery. I'll wait for a real comparison before I even look at these speed tests.

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i cant stand my G3. note 3 didnt lag as much as this pos
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I agree with that. My G3 definitely has more lag than the Note 3 I had before it.
Some people say the G3 has less lag when you use the ART runtime, but I have a few apps that are not ART compatible so can't test that.
I doubt the Note 4 will be worse than the G3 in terms of lag. I'll test out when the Note is in stores. If it IS slower then I just won't buy it. Simple.

JasonJoel said:
I agree with that. My G3 definitely has more lag than the Note 3 I had before it.
Some people say the G3 has less lag when you use the ART runtime, but I have a few apps that are not ART compatible so can't test that.
I doubt the Note 4 will be worse than the G3 in terms of lag. I'll test out when the Note is in stores. If it IS slower then I just won't buy it. Simple.
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i tried art but i have xposed so you cant use it lol and if the note 4 is worse then G3 i will deal with the tiny m8 then. im sick of this. may go back to note 3 lol

oneandroidnut said:
i tried art but i have xposed so you cant use it lol and if the note 4 is worse then G3 i will deal with the tiny m8 then. im sick of this. may go back to note 3 lol
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I seriously wish I would have kept my One M8 instead of going to the G3.
But I get 'new, shiny syndrome' sometimes. Lol
On the other hand I'm displeased enough with the G3 that I doubt I'll regret getting rid of it.
Ready for the Note 4 to hit stores...

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I seriously wish I would have kept my One M8 instead of going to the G3.
But I get 'new, shiny syndrome' sometimes. Lol
On the other hand I'm displeased enough with the G3 that I doubt I'll regret getting rid of it.
Ready for the Note 4 to hit stores...
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me too cant wait for note 4!!

I wish I could have waited for a note4 but my upgrade was burning a hole in my pocket and I picked up the GS5 in April. I love this phone but I want the big screen. I would gladly trade my Sprint GS5 and a Sprint GS3 for this bad boy.

Samsung finally learned to lighten up TouchWiz a bit.
My S5 is completely lag-less. At least as good as the Nexus 4 or S4 mini with CM11, i had before.
Note 4 has a higher resolution but also more power.
(Only 'lag' may be the Home button, because its waiting for a second press (S Voice) - but you can disable that.)

kwyjibo83 said:
Samsung finally learned to lighten up TouchWiz a bit.
My S5 is completely lag-less. At least as good as the Nexus 4 or S4 mini with CM11, i had before.
Note 4 has a higher resolution but also more power.
(Only 'lag' may be the Home button, because its waiting for a second press (S Voice) - but you can disable that.)
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i think you are the first person to like the S5 lol

No - for obvious reasons.

oneandroidnut said:
i think you are the first person to like the S5 lol
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Hehe
What i 'dislike' most is the camera. Everything else is great.
The camera is not bad (and still one of the best) but its not as superior as Samsung made me / us believe.

CLARiiON said:
I was running some tests on a HP Gen8 server sometime back, it was taking time and sort of freezing a few times.
It had 512GB of RAM, quite a few Xeon processors and tons of other stuffs. It was still "lagging" in many tests.
Do you think I should take this server out and put Moto X, as apparently it doesn't lag.
Samsung phones do a lot more than any other phone. There are many options that you can use in Samsung phone that you won't ever find it a simple phone. And hence there is a tradeoff. It's the law of nature. The very idea of getting a Samsung phone is that you are not getting a normal bare-bone stock device. It's has bells and whistles. It your objective is to have a phone with bare minimum features, get some other phone.
If you get a Samsung phone you might see delay of 0.5 sec for some basic thing, not that I ever care about them. Not it's for your to decide whether you are interested in that half-second of time or do you think those added functionality is more important to you. Just a simple trick like slide to call/SMS is such amazing in a Samsung device.
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Very good explanation clarion I agree we've got a lot of users crying for that few lags on TouchWiz but nobody understands that this is not a work stopper if it is for you why is xda community building rom get your device rooted and start flashing aosp or any other tweaked tw rom
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aukhan said:
Very good explanation clarion I agree we've got a lot of users crying for that few lags on TouchWiz but nobody understands that this is not a work stopper if it is for you why is xda community building rom get your device rooted and start flashing aosp or any other tweaked tw rom
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I have a note 2 on Verizon. I think that as an expensive premium device, even for all these "extra features" like you guys say, there is NO EXCUSE for lag! It has the absolute latest phone processor in it, and they even developed their own. What's the point if everything lags and is slow anyway?

My HTC One Max is just as fast as the M8 and MUCH faster than note 3 with metal all around not just on sides and BoomSound speakers are as good as the ones on M8 not single tiny speaker on the back like Note 4.
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adampa1006 said:
I have a note 2 on Verizon. I think that as an expensive premium device, even for all these "extra features" like you guys say, there is NO EXCUSE for lag! It has the absolute latest phone processor in it, and they even developed their own. What's the point if everything lags and is slow anyway?
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I am sure you go to every thread in this community and you will find at least 1thread discussing about slow sluggish and lags.
Our human tendency is we want note never satisfied with what we've already got
Emotion Revolution coming soon on Note 4 (Aosp,Miui,Touchwiz, &Nadia kernel) I am ready to note!! Are you ???

Well I rooted my Note 3 and installed some apps like Seeder, Lag Fix and an app which auto restarts my phone once a day, closing all background apps. It has pretty much eliminated all the lag except the Gallery. For that I installed Nexus Gallery from the store. Still I may think twice before upgrading to another Samsung device.

It is being reported by users, that the TMo OTA update that is being pushed out today solves the recent apps button lag. Nice to see Samsung react to an issue and push out an update.
Now I just get to wait for AT&T to release the update and all will be good.

Any reasons to NOT buy this phone?

My heart says yes but my mind is a bit cautious!
Can you convince me to NOT buy this phone?

Sectoras said:
My heart says yes but my mind is a bit cautious!
Can you convince me to NOT buy this phone?
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It took me about a month of deciding to get one (updating from HTC One m7).
Just say "F it" and buy one. There's no point being the richest man in the graveyard :laugh:

Not really. It has its flaws such as Touchwiz but it's still one of if not the best Android phone around today. I guess in a few months the Note 5 will be released.

0-0-0 said:
It took me about a month of deciding to get one (updating from HTC One m7).
Just say "F it" and buy one. There's no point being the richest man in the graveyard :laugh:
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True! I'm just a click before the purchase! I was thinking to get the exynos version but i guess the snapdragon ROMs are better than the exynos right? However is the difference noticeable?

Just my opinion though... If i were you I would probably wait for Note 5, but if you can't wait and you are eager? then try to stay away from the Korean versions (no offense - for Koreans) and buy the phone. I personally own the Korean Version which is a pain for me due to the "Olleh Logo and apps" and little to no custom rom available. All this was my fault since i was in a hurry in getting the less expensive deal. But yet i lived with it and now loving the Phone, I also own the non edge S6 which i used for two days and eventually giving it to my wife, Since i am not used to a bit smaller phone compared to note 4. But yes try to wait a bit more for the note 5.

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Just my opinion though... If i were you I would probably wait for Note 5, but if you can't wait and you are eager? then try to stay away from the Korean versions (no offense - for Koreans) and buy the phone. I personally own the Korean Version which is a pain for me due to the "Olleh Logo and apps" and little to no custom rom available. All this was my fault since i was in a hurry in getting the less expensive deal. But yet i lived with it and now loving the Phone, I also own the non edge S6 which i used for two days and eventually giving it to my wife, Since i am not used to a bit smaller phone compared to note 4. But yes try to wait a bit more for the note 5.
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Is there an official ETA for the note 5? I could wait a month or two.. Also i'm not willing to spend more than 500€ .. so i guess i should go for the Note 4

Sectoras said:
Is there an official ETA for the note 5? I could wait a month or two..
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As of now there's no specific Release Date, But i assume somewhere August. Google search yielded sprouting links, rumors etc. about note 5, But there is no actual Date. Anyways when there's A "1, 2 & 3" series, then there will always be "4, 5 and so on..." So it will come...

Buy the note edge instead. ...
One of a kind.

Lags like crazy, camera is not good in low light especially with moving objects. That's all I got. But at least for me, I'm doubting whether I'll get another Samsung device purely because of the lag.
Supposedly the S6 has a stripped down touchwiz as well, but it still lags.
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Small hands. Don't buy this phone if you have small hands :b
Seriously, no flags at all. Kitkat is the most flawless, fastest and optimized firmware to the date. Lollipop is getting better with BOE2 build and it WILL be better with 5.1.1. Also you have interchangeable batteries and microSD support. Go, grab one, you'll never regret.

I see as though the note 5 will come with an irreplaceable battery and memory. That's very very discouraging to be me, unless s6 sales cause them to rethink their strategy am not going to be upgrading to note 5 from my current note 4.
beezar said:
Lags like crazy, camera is not good in low light especially with moving objects. That's all I got. But at least for me, I'm doubting whether I'll get another Samsung device purely because of the lag.
Supposedly the S6 has a stripped down touchwiz as well, but it still lags.
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My experience with the international snapdragon version says completely otherwise! I think your is clogged with bloatware hence the lag! Plus also quality control is different for different countries. Like I know the SM-N910S version to be not so good and someone here has posted on the same. I went out of my way to get the International Snapdragon version because I had heard wonders about it and now that I have it, it is also doing wonders. Just visit the Note 4 battery thread and you will see what I am talking about.

Kernel ranger said:
I see as though the note 5 will come with an irreplaceable battery and memory. That's very very discouraging to be me, unless s6 sales cause them to rethink their strategy am not going to be upgrading to note 5 from my current note 4.
My experience with the international snapdragon version says completely otherwise! I think your is clogged with bloatware hence the lag! Plus also quality control is different for different countries. Like I know the SM-N910S version to be not so good and someone here has posted on the same. I went out of my way to get the International Snapdragon version because I had heard wonders about it and now that I have it, it is also doing wonders. Just visit the Note 4 battery thread and you will see what I am talking about.
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It's strange that people's experiences with this (and other) phones vary so much. I believe it all comes down to subjectiveness, perception and what you're expecting from your device. Sometimes when I read a thread on someone's perception of a phone on XDA I think "what?!, you've got to be kidding!".
Personally speaking, after owning most of the current and past flagships, the Note 4 stands amongst the best. It takes some work to freeze apps and get battery performance to a good level but it's allround performance, camera quality, build quality, QHD screen taken into account etc, it's easily one of the best around at this moment in time and with a custom kernel, it's very snappy. Is it the perfect phone? no, not by far but then no others are today and the N4 is close to the top of the pile.

i think it's bigger than others, but i like it

beezar said:
Lags like crazy, camera is not good in low light especially with moving objects. That's all I got. But at least for me, I'm doubting whether I'll get another Samsung device purely because of the lag.
Supposedly the S6 has a stripped down touchwiz as well, but it still lags.
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I'm aware of this lag issue, but i hope for a good, tweaked & clean XDA ROM.

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My heart says yes but my mind is a bit cautious!
Can you convince me to NOT buy this phone?
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Yes, it lags! On both UI and games!
And also, it takes extremely long for uldates to get released! But whatever you do dont get 910H! Check which version gets updates first!
And its funny, my note n7000 and this note are voth full of scratches! Luckily scratches on my note 4 are barely seen on normal conditions but my N7000 was awful! But my nexus 4 and sensation didnt have scratches! (After i droped my sensation there was one on the screen and back of my nexus 4 was full of scratch but only on back)
and also the chrome on the edges gets worn off with case! Otherwise great phone! You could also wait for note 5! But its gonna be expensive as hell, atmeast for a few months!
But the screen, if you don't care about purple smudges its AMAZING! When i compare it to my monutor its like watching 2 diffrent movies but it might be because my momitor is terrible

Batfink33 said:
It's strange that people's experiences with this (and other) phones vary so much. I believe it all comes down to subjectiveness, perception and what you're expecting from your device. Sometimes when I read a thread on someone's perception of a phone on XDA I think "what?!, you've got to be kidding!".
Personally speaking, after owning most of the current and past flagships, the Note 4 stands amongst the best. It takes some work to freeze apps and get battery performance to a good level but it's allround performance, camera quality, build quality, QHD screen taken into account etc, it's easily one of the best around at this moment in time and with a custom kernel, it's very snappy. Is it the perfect phone? no, not by far but then no others are today and the N4 is close to the top of the pile.
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I hear you and what you are saying makes perfect sense, I can't argue with that. Not everyone uses their phones alike which accounts for the differences we experience. But I tell you this Note 4 I have is really God sent, the only other phone that could do what it's currently doing was my first Nokia phone ever or maybe it's because I am in a region with superb signal reception, I realized the Note 4 is extremely sensitive to the mobile network signal power and impacts greatly on battery life. I can't wait to install a custom rom into it and really see it's potential.

Well I kinda agree about the sluggishness partially but not totally to the extent that i ended up complaining about how note 4 lags. Mine does not lag like crazy but some rare occurrence of what i call the "stutter Effect" other than that it is fast (btw mine is the exynos Korean n910k model) handles pretty well with all apps. I guess it's down to every user's taste which varies. I have put both side by side the S6 (non-edge model) and the note 4 and found that s6 is slightly faster but that i think was because of the striped down TW and probably the latest hardware etc... Anyways it's just my thought.

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As of now there's no specific Release Date, But i assume somewhere August. Google search yielded sprouting links, rumors etc. about note 5, But there is no actual Date. Anyways when there's A "1, 2 & 3" series, then there will always be "4, 5 and so on..." So it will come...
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Note 5 will be announced at IFA 2015 in September and released in October like every note before it

Fuzzi99, If that's the case? then i might probably give my note 4 to my wife and get the "5!" Seriously speaking, I will keep my note and maybe if "Mr. Temptation" will try to get in my way, then i might be tempted to break my piggy bank and purchase the Note 5... Interesting News by the way.

Concerns? Dislikes? Buyer's Remorse?

Anyone disappointed in a few things like I am?
1. Regardless of how you feel, Verizon removing things and adding even more bloatware is beyond nasty. It's low.
2. The battery life is average at best.
3. There is lags. It's there. Apps open slow, typical Samsung UI stuff. It'll never change.
4. I just don't like the edge. It offers nothing and makes hitting a button close to it awkward. Not to mention cases are just bleh due to trying to fit around it.
5. The S-pen has a smaller tip, but I find it less responsive than it used to be.
6. New theme store is meh. Themes I purchased on my s6 aren't there. I think this feature will improve though.
I like the phone, but it definitely doesn't wow me like the Note 3 and Note 4.
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I am having way better battery life on the Note 7 than my Galaxy 7. I haven't noticed any lag. I agree, the "edge" is a gimmick.
Biggest issue: No AdBlock. Jesus, how do people use the internet without adblock

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I am having way better battery life on the Note 7 than my Galaxy 7. I haven't noticed any lag. I agree, the "edge" is a gimmick.
Biggest issue: No AdBlock. Jesus, how do people use the internet without adblock
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You should use Samsung's browser and use the adblock extension. It is amazing.

Hunt4m3x said:
I am having way better battery life on the Note 7 than my Galaxy 7. I haven't noticed any lag. I agree, the "edge" is a gimmick.
Biggest issue: No AdBlock. Jesus, how do people use the internet without adblock
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I might have to get rid of it for that. Hope it gets root, dont care about the bootloader. Can't live with the endless ads in apps

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You should use Samsung's browser and use the adblock extension. It is amazing.
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I have but other apps have ads etc.

Hunt4m3x said:
I have but other apps have ads etc.
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I use Adgaurd on my note 5. Plan on using it on the Note 7 if i go for it. Works great. On the web and on apps.

Bsober said:
I use Adgaurd on my note 5. Plan on using it on the Note 7 if i go for it. Works great. On the web and on apps.
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I use Adguard on occasion as it sometimes bogs down the phone. Love/hate relationship with it.

Well, I get way better battery life than any phone I've ever owned. I end almost every day at 50% and I used to charge by 6pm. Apps open faster than any phone I've ever had and have no lag so far. I love the edge for quick weather and sports scores. I don't love finding a screen protector and case that play nice together. The s-pen seems WAY better to me. I don't use the theme store so I can't comment there. So far, I adore this phone.
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Apparently you guys have never had a Nexus. This phone is good, but it does have lag issues that it just shouldn't have in 2016.
And when I say edge, I dont mean edges apps. You don't need to have an edge screen to use the apps you mentioned. They would work just fine if not better on a flat screen like the quick tools Samsung used to use
Not being a jerk, but every phone that gets released, people make wild claims like " 8 day battery life, fastest phone in the world" blah blah. To be fair, there is always someone who makes a thread like this as well. I'm that someone this time.
I like the phone, but it really isn't the holy grail it was made out to be... I feel like it needs an update to clean some stuff up
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I like the phone but I don't think it's a huge upgrade over my s7e. I think I'm going to return it and just keep my s7e. Kind of sick of Verizon for removing helpful features from this phone that were meant to be there.

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Apparently you guys have never had a Nexus. This phone is good, but it does have lag issues that it just shouldn't have in 2016.
And when I say edge, I dont mean edges apps. You don't need to have an edge screen to use the apps you mentioned. They would work just fine if not better on a flat screen like the quick tools Samsung used to use
Not being a jerk, but every phone that gets released, people make wild claims like " 8 day battery life, fastest phone in the world" blah blah. To be fair, there is always someone who makes a thread like this as well. I'm that someone this time.
I like the phone, but it really isn't the holy grail it was made out to be... I feel like it needs an update to clean some stuff up
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Had a Nexus 6. This blows the doors off of it speed wise. I can actually open the camera and take a picture, answer a phone call, and not have the unlock screen take about 15 seconds to actually unlock.
Makes me wonder if I had a bad device all along. It wasn't like that at first though. Somewhere after 6.0 it slowed down and never recovered regardless of factory resetting.
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Concerns:
Future updates, but I knew what I was getting into.
The durability of GG5, but the whole issue may be overblown...time will tell.
Dislikes:
The screen protector I bought. There is already dust under it. Not to mention it must have lifted off the center, as I miss keys all the time. I will sit tight for a while on it and see what else comes out over the next month or so.
Samsung Keyboard - I like Google Keyboard for typing, Samsung S-Pen input for writing, and Google Voice Keyboard. No way to get this combo easily.
Price was steep for this phone, but you get what you pay for. I wanted premium, and got premium.
Buyer's Remorse
Nope. None.

I miss the Ascending Ringtone Volume setting. I can't find it in VZN Note 7. All the good basic ring tones are gone, too.
Someone PLEASE unlock the boot loader on this phone.

Really wasn't expecting to see the different ui was actually looking forward to the new one as this phone was supposed to have the grace ui , so very disappointed in that as it was a feature that was a factor in my buying it its more or less the s7 rebuilt as a note with edge panels, so Im annoyed there. I also don't like the fact that I had to make a custom shortcut for the Samsung cloud service when that was also a feature which was a deciding factor for getting this phone , all in all don't get me wrong the phone is beautiful it runs like a dream its screen is fantastic etc. but I really disagree with the feature removal , the device maintenance app , and the difference in ui these are things that were supposed to make this phone unique and there not there , I mean I really like it but im annoyed at the same time if that makes sense lol. What really sucks is I gave my s7 to my wife and shes ecstatic about it so I cant really return it now cause shes now one with the s7. That and i traded in her old phone.

I agree DBCAB. I don't know what is different in the UI aside from a slightly different settings menu. Is there more?
I am also sick of Verizon. There is just no other carrier with a signal here. They're the reason I went Nexus and tried an iPhone. You never know what features they're going to remove or bloat they're going to force when it comes the all other Android phones.
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I'm not thrilled about Verizon, the way they tamper with what is already a somewhat compromised ROM is vile. Their latest security update had crapware in it. What more can you say?
The phone is amazing, imo. It absolutely kills the Note 4 which I had, it's not even comparable. I'm using a Nexus 6P, I swore on all that is holy I would never use a locked up Samsung phone again and I can barely put this down. It looks better than any phone I've ever seen, the software is actually...dare I say it, useful? Even the damn iris scanner works well. It's not laggy (yet), and I'm getting better battery than my Nexus. I missed the stylus. I don't know if I can bear a locked down phone, but this is the only one I've tried that makes me think about it A LOT.
My only dislike is how gdamn hard I have to work against Verizon and Samsung to get the most out of it. Sneaking to get Samsung Cloud, downloading an older, superior version of SNote with full capability (wtf is that about?!). Otherwise, wow, quite a phone and I was prepared to hate it loudly.

PsiPhiDan said:
Well, I get way better battery life than any phone I've ever owned. I end almost every day at 50% and I used to charge by 6pm. Apps open faster than any phone I've ever had and have no lag so far. I love the edge for quick weather and sports scores. I don't love finding a screen protector and case that play nice together. The s-pen seems WAY better to me. I don't use the theme store so I can't comment there. So far, I adore this phone.
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What are you using for sports scores?

taz1458 said:
What are you using for sports scores?
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Just the standard yahoo sports one. When you click on the little gear symbol to customize the edge screens you want, Yahoo is literally the first one I can select. It's pretty basic but I like it for my baseball scores at a glance.
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The $900 price tag got to me along with the edge screen so I returned mine for a Galaxy J3 lol. Seriously the Note 7 is nice but between what Verizon dose and the limited choice of screen protectors that stick and cases that do not peal them off made me return the device. I'm looking to ditch Verizon all together so I opted for the cheapest smartphone they had in stock to fulfill my device payment agreement. Surprisingly the J3 isn't all that bad for what I do on the phone.

Misterxtc said:
The $900 price tag got to me along with the edge screen so I returned mine for a Galaxy J3 lol. Seriously the Note 7 is nice but between what Verizon dose and the limited choice of screen protectors that stick and cases that do not peal them off made me return the device. I'm looking to ditch Verizon all together so I opted for the cheapest smartphone they had in stock to fulfill my device payment agreement. Surprisingly the J3 isn't all that bad for what I do on the phone.
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I wouldn't expect early cases and screen protectors to be perfect til people got a chance to beat on them. I still ordered them though and just got them in today, at least get some protection.

jjayzx said:
I wouldn't expect early cases and screen protectors to be perfect til people got a chance to beat on them. I still ordered them though and just got them in today, at least get some protection.
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It's going to be the same as the S7 Edge I just traded in. Not too many choices.