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I was watching some hands on videos of the S4 and was pretty disappointed to see that the interface is laggy in some areas and overall less than perfectly smooth. There's absolutely no excuse for it considering how powerful the hardware is, and shows that Samsung's priorities are all wrong (throwing in a hundred random new features but neglecting the basics of the user experience). But I've seen some comments saying those were just pre-production units. Is that just a fanboy excuse or can we really expect to see a major improvement in smoothness by launch? Is there lag on the Galaxy S3 for anyone who's owned one? UI lag is my biggest pet peeve, and that alone is making me consider the HTC One for the first time despite the S4 beating it in almost everything else.
I have noticed in some S3 vs HTC One videos, that the S3 took considerably longer time to show the homescreen when leaving an app by pressing the home button. In some videos I think I might have seen the same thing on the S4. Maybe it's TouchWiz, maybe it's just that the device is not final or so many other apps were open in the background.
Wait for reviews of final hardware.
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Samsungs Launcher software was always a master on being laggy. Especially at the first releases. But after a few updates this lags flew out.
It will be the same on the S4.
Every hands on I've seen so far seems fine to me. If there is any 'lag' going to homescreen, it's because of Touchwiz waiting for that hold or double press for voice control. (Can't remember which it is.)
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I was watching some hands on videos of the S4 and was pretty disappointed to see that the interface is laggy in some areas and overall less than perfectly smooth. There's absolutely no excuse for it considering how powerful the hardware is, and shows that Samsung's priorities are all wrong (throwing in a hundred random new features but neglecting the basics of the user experience). But I've seen some comments saying those were just pre-production units. Is that just a fanboy excuse or can we really expect to see a major improvement in smoothness by launch? Is there lag on the Galaxy S3 for anyone who's owned one? UI lag is my biggest pet peeve, and that alone is making me consider the HTC One for the first time despite the S4 beating it in almost everything else.
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Bad software to blame.
An octa-core has no excuse.
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Bad software to blame.
An octa-core has no excuse.
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Beta software to blame.
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Beta software to blame.
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my note 2 is lag free so there's absolutely no reason for the gs4 to lag with either cpu
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Every hands on I've seen so far seems fine to me. If there is any 'lag' going to homescreen, it's because of Touchwiz waiting for that hold or double press for voice control. (Can't remember which it is.)
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This is the reason, that's why the S Voice double press option gets disabled straight away
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Exactly. Thank God there are still smart people around. Its because it is beta and not final software. Samsung phones are the most fluid phones out there besides the nexus line ( jelly bean era). The S3 had many Jelly bean leaks ( 10 or more) just 2 weeks before the final version was released. The first leak was very laggy, by the 3rd it was starting to be ok, by the 7th or 8th you could feel project butter. The S IV is shipping in a month so whatever lag there is, it will probably be gone.
Samsung's fanboys wont admit it , but the SGS2/3/Note1/2/10.1 lag out of the box.
Just walk in a Staples or a BB and try a Note 10.1. It is extremely laggy.
You need to disable all the crapwares/bloatwares if you want to feel this tablet runs like an iPad.
I never understood why Samsung let their demos(out of the box devices) be so unpleasant to use.
Some are saying Google cant live without Samsung but I say a Motorola Google X available with all the carriers would remove Samsung from the number one Android phones.
Samsung need to be bumped asap
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Samsung's fanboys wont admit it , but the SGS2/3/Note1/2/10.1 lag out of the box.
Just walk in a Staples or a BB and try a Note 10.1. It is extremely laggy.
You need to disable all the crapwares/bloatwares if you want to feel this tablet runs like an iPad.
I never understood why Samsung let their demos(out of the box devices) be so unpleasant to use.
Some are saying Google cant live without Samsung but I say a Motorola Google X available with all the carriers would remove Samsung from the number one Android phones.
Samsung need to be bumped asap
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There hasn't been a good Motorola phone since the original RAZR.
It is very laggy with smart stay and smart scroll turned on. Turn them off and it is much improved.
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I was watching some hands on videos of the S4 and was pretty disappointed to see that the interface is laggy in some areas and overall less than perfectly smooth. There's absolutely no excuse for it considering how powerful the hardware is, and shows that Samsung's priorities are all wrong (throwing in a hundred random new features but neglecting the basics of the user experience). But I've seen some comments saying those were just pre-production units. Is that just a fanboy excuse or can we really expect to see a major improvement in smoothness by launch? Is there lag on the Galaxy S3 for anyone who's owned one? UI lag is my biggest pet peeve, and that alone is making me consider the HTC One for the first time despite the S4 beating it in almost everything else.
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I wouldn't judge till we saw a final production model.
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I have noticed in some S3 vs HTC One videos, that the S3 took considerably longer time to show the homescreen when leaving an app by pressing the home button. In some videos I think I might have seen the same thing on the S4. Maybe it's TouchWiz, maybe it's just that the device is not final or so many other apps were open in the background.
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Of course it's going to lag when you hit home. You have to deactivate S Voice double tap home launch. The SGS4 is going to wait a split second or 2 to see if you hit home again to launch S Voice. Deactivate that and it would have just went home.
I did notice a little bit of lag when the phones were being demoed, but quite honestly these are pre-release models. It could be as simple as the phone not killing its tasks after it opens up 7 or 10 apps. What if the person before opened up a few browsers, the camera, gallery, flipboard, a game, etc?
Again, I'll judge when the thing actually comes out or when GSM Arena gets a hold of a final production model.
Bagbug said:
Samsung's fanboys wont admit it , but the SGS2/3/Note1/2/10.1 lag out of the box.
Just walk in a Staples or a BB and try a Note 10.1. It is extremely laggy.
You need to disable all the crapwares/bloatwares if you want to feel this tablet runs like an iPad.
I never understood why Samsung let their demos(out of the box devices) be so unpleasant to use.
Some are saying Google cant live without Samsung but I say a Motorola Google X available with all the carriers would remove Samsung from the number one Android phones.
Samsung need to be bumped asap
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Listen to this guy lol. Note 2, s3,s2 do not lag out of the box, note 1 yes when it didnt have jelly bean, dont know now. Dont know aqbout note 10.1 either. You speak like a hater, keep on hating
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Listen to this guy lol. Note 2, s3,s2 do not lag out of the box, note 1 yes when it didnt have jelly bean, dont know now. Dont know aqbout note 10.1 either. You speak like a hater, keep on hating
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The Jelly Bean update that samsung gave to the galaxy note 1 is probably the worst update I have seen. It is buggy, slow and laggy! Even after removing all the bloat taking it down to 236MB it is still laggy and slow. This is one of the reasons why I am not going to go with any sammy device, poor support and bad optimisation hardware-software wise
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The Jelly Bean update that samsung gave to the galaxy note 1 is probably the worst update I have seen. It is buggy, slow and laggy! Even after removing all the bloat taking it down to 236MB it is still laggy and slow. This is one of the reasons why I am not going to go with any sammy device, poor support and bad optimisation hardware-software wise
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Yeah i'm not sure about the note1, i had early 2012 when it had ICS. But i had the S3 and note 2, both were fast and fluid with little to no lag at all, especially the note 2 thanks to the 2 gigs or Ram.
I play a lot Samsung and own some of it.
Samsung Lagging phone/tablet
- Note
- Tab 10.1 (This one is pure rubbish)
Samsung not so smooth interface
- S II ( franky said that only 4.1.2 france ROM with S III interface run quite well here.. hmm)
- S III International Edition (it actually quite nice now using XperianZe ROM, means latest touchwiz to blame not really capable for 1GB device)
- Note 10.1
Samsung with well acceptable interface smoothness, not smooth interface (some sort like cut frame) was keep to extreme minimal
- S III LTE edition
- Note II
- Nexus 10
Base on above, and current spec, I believe in final, S 4 will running smooth on it interface.
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It is very laggy with smart stay and smart scroll turned on. Turn them off and it is much improved.
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so whats the reason then for them to exist? if they make the phone laggy? asked no-one in samsung apperently...
I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?
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I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?
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i noticed the same on mine... Its a GT-I9505...
My Nexus 4 is smoother....
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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I'm guessing it's the use of 4.2. It was a big step backwards from 4.1.
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I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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Did you ever try to install a custom rom for any of those devices? The only smart phone I've owned was a Samsung Infuse (The little brother of the S2) and the lag on that phone was terrible, despite the amount of roms I've put on it.
I have seen lag in the widget drawer, first time when you try to swipe to a different page in the widget drawer. Seems like 4.2 update have broken a few things in terms of smoothness.
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I have seen lag in the widget drawer, first time when you try to swipe to a different page in the widget drawer. Seems like 4.2 update have broken a few things in terms of smoothness.
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So did I. Didn't notice a lag in other screens, though...
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Did you ever try to install a custom rom for any of those devices? The only smart phone I've owned was a Samsung Infuse (The little brother of the S2) and the lag on that phone was terrible, despite the amount of roms I've put on it.
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I still have the Droid Charge, the Infuse's ugly brother on Verizon. They both use galaxy S hardware in the age of the S II, and Samsung didn't really give a crap about them software wise. I remember when the Charge got the gingerbread update there was a line that read something like this in the source:
/*This is a temporary piece of crappy code that I was forced to write as I did not figure
out how to properly use the driver in the system. Please resist the temptation of ever using
this code in a good Samsung phone. I will remove this code as soon as I figure out the correct
way of using the driver*/
The old hardware and the bad development are likely the problems. We did just get an OTA update a couple of weeks ago that fixed a lot of lag, though. Maybe it was that guy's driver, who knows.
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I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?
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It's an existing feature in Samsung phones called S-lag.
So how's the dialer? Does it still open for 3 secs?
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I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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I read somewhere that the lag is not the devices themselves but more on Android's native coding (how it was built ground up). Android works like a computer and differences are the way it utilizes the CPU/GPU. For example, when you are browsing and click on something on iOS, it stops everything and performs new instructions right away. In Android, it still process last set of instructions.
So Android reduces the lag by brute force by (dual, quad core, more memory, GPU etc) whereas iOS, because of different coding they don't need to. Many apps on Android are really customized versions of Java. And didn't Steve Jobs eliminate Java because it is too slow/power consuming for Mobile?
Even Nexus devices lag. When you turn on the phone and start scrolling and browsing right away really fast there is some lag.
There is an interesting just released article on that matter , in french, but numbers speak for themselves :
lesnumeriques.com/reactivite-tactile-ecran-21-smartphones-tablettes-n29229.html
(sorry can't publish full url yet.
Limited set of devices for now but more to come and undoubtly GS4.
So far,
no surprise, Iphone 5 beat them all : 75ms
GS3 : quite good : 105ms
HTC one : a bit disappointing : 145
MultiLockOn said:
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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Note II with Nova on here, and zero lags (except if you unlock from deep sleep and immediately without waiting, like within 1 second or something, pull down the notification bar, there's a lag, but that's me being nitpicky here). I guess it's a snapdragon thing rather, I'm on N7100 international Note II. Can vouch for that anyways.
I feel like this will be fixed with updates.
A lot of them said it was in awkward apps.. the kind of apps you wouldn't expect to get lag.
On engadgets review, they say that the air view and air gestures seen to make the phone a lot more sluggish. So hopefully disabling one of those features will help speed it up.
Note 2 user chiming in. Not even mad about lag. There is no such thing as lag free. Show me proof if there is.
Also got an GS4 arriving tomorrow. Removing bloatware as soon as I gain root.
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When I was trying out the note 2 at the att store I noticed that some of the transitions would stutter from time to time (getting inand out of the app drawer, notification pulll down stutter) When I was trying out the HTC One, the only lag slight lag I got was on the widget select screen. Everything was literally smooth and fluid, it was awesome! The only reason why I was sold to the S4 instead of the One was because of the power button and volume buttons being so flush in the casing. I would have to slide my finger across the top just to pinpoint the power button which was very annoying and so I was thinking of avoiding the One. And I honestly like the design of the S4 more. But even the slightest lag on the S4 will deter me away from it, if it is constantly happening that is.
i'm not sure why some of u have lag or stutter on N2
i only have stutter on the notification drawer if i have a looot of notifications
Have you noticed some lags on the stock browser app? It seems there are some issues with pinch-in/out.
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Have you noticed some lags on the stock browser app? It seems there are some issues with pinch-in/out.
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no stock browser smooth as butter , Chrome stutter sometimes
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no stock browser smooth as butter , Chrome stutter sometimes
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Can I ask you what is the version of the fw?
i9505 or 9500?
Thanks man
Phone Arena's head to head comparison show that the iPhone and G3 launch apps faster. I can't believe Samsung puts in the best phone processor, but had no care for the end user of a fluid experience, and appears to have put in zero work in making touch wiz faster. Any thoughts?
If that's the case, then I'm sticking to my m8. I couldn't stand that on the note 3.
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I was running some tests on a HP Gen8 server sometime back, it was taking time and sort of freezing a few times.
It had 512GB of RAM, quite a few Xeon processors and tons of other stuffs. It was still "lagging" in many tests.
Do you think I should take this server out and put Moto X, as apparently it doesn't lag.
Samsung phones do a lot more than any other phone. There are many options that you can use in Samsung phone that you won't ever find it a simple phone. And hence there is a tradeoff. It's the law of nature. The very idea of getting a Samsung phone is that you are not getting a normal bare-bone stock device. It's has bells and whistles. It your objective is to have a phone with bare minimum features, get some other phone.
If you get a Samsung phone you might see delay of 0.5 sec for some basic thing, not that I ever care about them. Not it's for your to decide whether you are interested in that half-second of time or do you think those added functionality is more important to you. Just a simple trick like slide to call/SMS is such amazing in a Samsung device.
i cant stand my G3. note 3 didnt lag as much as this pos
Meh, it's a demo model, we don't know which processor it had in it, and it's running a pre-production unit of the new touch wiz. That, and half those tests were bunk, email on the G3 had 2 emails, the note 4 had about 100, same with Gallery. I'll wait for a real comparison before I even look at these speed tests.
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i cant stand my G3. note 3 didnt lag as much as this pos
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I agree with that. My G3 definitely has more lag than the Note 3 I had before it.
Some people say the G3 has less lag when you use the ART runtime, but I have a few apps that are not ART compatible so can't test that.
I doubt the Note 4 will be worse than the G3 in terms of lag. I'll test out when the Note is in stores. If it IS slower then I just won't buy it. Simple.
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I agree with that. My G3 definitely has more lag than the Note 3 I had before it.
Some people say the G3 has less lag when you use the ART runtime, but I have a few apps that are not ART compatible so can't test that.
I doubt the Note 4 will be worse than the G3 in terms of lag. I'll test out when the Note is in stores. If it IS slower then I just won't buy it. Simple.
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i tried art but i have xposed so you cant use it lol and if the note 4 is worse then G3 i will deal with the tiny m8 then. im sick of this. may go back to note 3 lol
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i tried art but i have xposed so you cant use it lol and if the note 4 is worse then G3 i will deal with the tiny m8 then. im sick of this. may go back to note 3 lol
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I seriously wish I would have kept my One M8 instead of going to the G3.
But I get 'new, shiny syndrome' sometimes. Lol
On the other hand I'm displeased enough with the G3 that I doubt I'll regret getting rid of it.
Ready for the Note 4 to hit stores...
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I seriously wish I would have kept my One M8 instead of going to the G3.
But I get 'new, shiny syndrome' sometimes. Lol
On the other hand I'm displeased enough with the G3 that I doubt I'll regret getting rid of it.
Ready for the Note 4 to hit stores...
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me too cant wait for note 4!!
I wish I could have waited for a note4 but my upgrade was burning a hole in my pocket and I picked up the GS5 in April. I love this phone but I want the big screen. I would gladly trade my Sprint GS5 and a Sprint GS3 for this bad boy.
Samsung finally learned to lighten up TouchWiz a bit.
My S5 is completely lag-less. At least as good as the Nexus 4 or S4 mini with CM11, i had before.
Note 4 has a higher resolution but also more power.
(Only 'lag' may be the Home button, because its waiting for a second press (S Voice) - but you can disable that.)
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Samsung finally learned to lighten up TouchWiz a bit.
My S5 is completely lag-less. At least as good as the Nexus 4 or S4 mini with CM11, i had before.
Note 4 has a higher resolution but also more power.
(Only 'lag' may be the Home button, because its waiting for a second press (S Voice) - but you can disable that.)
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i think you are the first person to like the S5 lol
No - for obvious reasons.
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i think you are the first person to like the S5 lol
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Hehe
What i 'dislike' most is the camera. Everything else is great.
The camera is not bad (and still one of the best) but its not as superior as Samsung made me / us believe.
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I was running some tests on a HP Gen8 server sometime back, it was taking time and sort of freezing a few times.
It had 512GB of RAM, quite a few Xeon processors and tons of other stuffs. It was still "lagging" in many tests.
Do you think I should take this server out and put Moto X, as apparently it doesn't lag.
Samsung phones do a lot more than any other phone. There are many options that you can use in Samsung phone that you won't ever find it a simple phone. And hence there is a tradeoff. It's the law of nature. The very idea of getting a Samsung phone is that you are not getting a normal bare-bone stock device. It's has bells and whistles. It your objective is to have a phone with bare minimum features, get some other phone.
If you get a Samsung phone you might see delay of 0.5 sec for some basic thing, not that I ever care about them. Not it's for your to decide whether you are interested in that half-second of time or do you think those added functionality is more important to you. Just a simple trick like slide to call/SMS is such amazing in a Samsung device.
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Very good explanation clarion I agree we've got a lot of users crying for that few lags on TouchWiz but nobody understands that this is not a work stopper if it is for you why is xda community building rom get your device rooted and start flashing aosp or any other tweaked tw rom
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Very good explanation clarion I agree we've got a lot of users crying for that few lags on TouchWiz but nobody understands that this is not a work stopper if it is for you why is xda community building rom get your device rooted and start flashing aosp or any other tweaked tw rom
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I have a note 2 on Verizon. I think that as an expensive premium device, even for all these "extra features" like you guys say, there is NO EXCUSE for lag! It has the absolute latest phone processor in it, and they even developed their own. What's the point if everything lags and is slow anyway?
My HTC One Max is just as fast as the M8 and MUCH faster than note 3 with metal all around not just on sides and BoomSound speakers are as good as the ones on M8 not single tiny speaker on the back like Note 4.
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I have a note 2 on Verizon. I think that as an expensive premium device, even for all these "extra features" like you guys say, there is NO EXCUSE for lag! It has the absolute latest phone processor in it, and they even developed their own. What's the point if everything lags and is slow anyway?
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I am sure you go to every thread in this community and you will find at least 1thread discussing about slow sluggish and lags.
Our human tendency is we want note never satisfied with what we've already got
Emotion Revolution coming soon on Note 4 (Aosp,Miui,Touchwiz, &Nadia kernel) I am ready to note!! Are you ???
Well I rooted my Note 3 and installed some apps like Seeder, Lag Fix and an app which auto restarts my phone once a day, closing all background apps. It has pretty much eliminated all the lag except the Gallery. For that I installed Nexus Gallery from the store. Still I may think twice before upgrading to another Samsung device.
It is being reported by users, that the TMo OTA update that is being pushed out today solves the recent apps button lag. Nice to see Samsung react to an issue and push out an update.
Now I just get to wait for AT&T to release the update and all will be good.
Hi guys, just wondering how many of you out there owned a iPhone 6 plus & then went to a note 4??
Im currently thinking about jumping ship, there's things I love about the iPhone 6 plus & then there's things a like about the note 4!
Any advice guys?
Cheers
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I have both.Acc to me iphone 6 plus is fast in opening apps,front cam is better.Games are smoother than in Note 4.But there's a lot of freedom in Note 4.Also Note 4 is way ahead in Multitasking.Sound in iphone with headphones is better with good bass & clarity.
But if you'll switch there will be no regret
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gibbo82 said:
Hi guys, just wondering how many of you out there owned a iPhone 6 plus & then went to a note 4??
Im currently thinking about jumping ship, there's things I love about the iPhone 6 plus & then there's things a like about the note 4!
Any advice guys?
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Decisions are made by thinking what kind of life you have and what kind of guy you are, its very simple, if you like simplicity just stay with your iPhone, now if you are like me, a techy guys, first of all that's why I haven't own any apple products cuz you have to stick with what they offer that's all, like I was saying, myself, I like to play around, rooting, flashing roms, I like to have control of my phone, my cpu, my gpu, I like to overclock, under clock, overvolt, undervolt, I like the way I can make my phone software different from others, because I HAVE FULL CONTROL, I like my 32GB Note 4 plus my 128GB micro SD card, yes that's a hard drive, but I use it cuz im rooted and now I can record 4k videos for 30 minutes instead 5min stock, you have the idea??? i can go anywhere and plug my phone via usb and have access to my phone, i don't have to rely on apple software or any software to access my phone or transfer anything from any computer. Yes i know you guys can jailbreak but, its not even close, i work with several iphone users, i wish u can see their face admitting and showing me their iphone lagging, but lagging like really bad on the browser, u cant still access a lot of sites, no flash player support, damn if i keep going i wont let another user share their thoughts, well i hope you got my point, good luck bro if you ever jump to the Note 4 it will be a good experience, Android is open source, and that's what makes the difference, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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RISHI RAJ said:
I have both.Acc to me iphone 6 plus is fast in opening apps,front cam is better.Games are smoother than in Note 4.But there's a lot of freedom in Note 4.Also Note 4 is way ahead in Multitasking.Sound in iphone with headphones is better with good bass & clarity.
But if you'll switch there will be no regret
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that's stock vs stock, now bring me your iphone and lets play any song, like i said, after you root android its another world, after flashing Dr. Kertan sound mode on my Note 4 its definitely louder and better than my friends iphone, in everyway, also i don't have any problems playing any high end game on my Exynos Note 4. Also which Note did you compare the front camera? the 3.7MP wide lens on the front camera of the Note 4 is far way better than the one in the iphone, and im not talking because of the pixels, cheers:fingers-crossed:
I like the iPhone 6 plus for its simplicity os, better range of apps that seem more stable than android (although android is catching up). I love the iPhone's keyboard, And yes the music seems more loud & clearer on the iPhone. The battery on the 6+ is amazing. I like android because it's so open & your not limited like iOS. I'm also a tech guy & like to play about. It's like having a mini PC in your hand.
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Oh boy! There we go. Another iOS vs Android war.
Anyways im just gonna contribute mine too. Y'all iPrisoners have no idea what you are missing until u get out of it. I used to be one myself until i crawled out of darkness. So I'd say dont just stick to people's opinions,buy it,try it and see for yourself.
IOS is simple from the beginning but the problem is if you already know all of it and you want to do more, you cannot do it on an iPhone. While on Android, it is not that complicated that you almost cannot use it from the start. But in time, it will get simpler. And if you already get used to it and you want to do more, you can do it on android. If you want more feature on Android, just install a third party app. While on IOS, you have to wait for a major upgrade to get few simple features. But still depends on your preferences.
If you're a heavy gamer, don't buy the Note 4. The gaming performance is great in Note 4 BUT after 20 mins the GPU underclocks and the game become laggy because it's overheating. I played intensive games in my sister's 6 Plus for 2 hours and the performance was still good.
Even though I have a Note 4 I would say keep the Iphone 6 plus, I had an iphone 6 and I miss quite a few thing about it, mostly the fluidness of ios 8.2 , I just couldn't deal with the poor battery life , the small and low res screen, but the Iphone 6 plus solves all of that, I would say wait for the note 5 maybe, the current touchwiz is quite ugly, we are still to get the new touchwiz found on the s6, lollipop 5.0.1 is slow , there's no permanent root, the bezels of the phone scratch like crazy, maybe wait a few months for thigs to settle , but I would say right now is not worth it ...
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Decisions are made by thinking what kind of life you have and what kind of guy you are, its very simple, if you like simplicity just stay with your iPhone, now if you are like me, a techy guys, first of all that's why I haven't own any apple products cuz you have to stick with what they offer that's all, like I was saying, myself, I like to play around, rooting, flashing roms, I like to have control of my phone, my cpu, my gpu, I like to overclock, under clock, overvolt, undervolt, I like the way I can make my phone software different from others, because I HAVE FULL CONTROL, I like my 32GB Note 4 plus my 128GB micro SD card, yes that's a hard drive, but I use it cuz im rooted and now I can record 4k videos for 30 minutes instead 5min stock, you have the idea??? i can go anywhere and plug my phone via usb and have access to my phone, i don't have to rely on apple software or any software to access my phone or transfer anything from any computer. Yes i know you guys can jailbreak but, its not even close, i work with several iphone users, i wish u can see their face admitting and showing me their iphone lagging, but lagging like really bad on the browser, u cant still access a lot of sites, no flash player support, damn if i keep going i wont let another user share their thoughts, well i hope you got my point, good luck bro if you ever jump to the Note 4 it will be a good experience, Android is open source, and that's what makes the difference, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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that's stock vs stock, now bring me your iphone and lets play any song, like i said, after you root android its another world, after flashing Dr. Kertan sound mode on my Note 4 its definitely louder and better than my friends iphone, in everyway, also i don't have any problems playing any high end game on my Exynos Note 4. Also which Note did you compare the front camera? the 3.7MP wide lens on the front camera of the Note 4 is far way better than the one in the iphone, and im not talking because of the pixels, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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also remember note 4 is like half the price! it has s-pen and etc(good screen) anyway note 4 disappointing me alot, even to the point of considering iphone! i had nexus 4 before, i got this as a gift, specially the updates are driving me crazy!
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If you're a heavy gamer, don't buy the Note 4. The gaming performance is great in Note 4 BUT after 20 mins the GPU underclocks and the game become laggy because it's overheating. I played intensive games in my sister's 6 Plus for 2 hours and the performance was still good.
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if i don't consider iphone an option but am a heavy gamer, what android phones would you recommend? (bigger = better )
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also remember note 4 is like half the price! it has s-pen and etc(good screen) anyway note 4 disappointing me alot, even to the point of considering iphone! i had nexus 4 before, i got this as a gift, specially the updates are driving me crazy!
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if i don't consider iphone an option but am a heavy gamer, what android phones would you recommend? (bigger = better )
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Nvidia Shield Tablet. But if you really want a phone, get the HTC One M8. It has a little slower and outdated hardware but more stable performance when playing games.
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Nvidia Shield Tablet. But if you really want a phone, get the HTC One M8. It has a little slower and outdated hardware but more stable performance when playing games.
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My father has it its small but awesome!
What do you think about moto x,z ultra(only if it had qhd.. I mean pixels are bigger than my face) g4 and nexus 6? I guess g3 lags!
I was going to buy shield when i unexpectedly received this gift :/ now i cant change phones for 2 years!(my fatger bought it)
Btw i was just playing nova 3 as test, not even the slightest lag, but its much less intense! I rrmebe whenni first bought it it didnt lag!
@yoniinfante
Im also a fan of Note 4 but you have to accept the truth that iphone 6+ is definitely better in front cam,there's no doubt about it.Also in terms of sound it is mind blowing out of the box & not by modding or rooting which voids the warranty.Gaming is also smooth in it,even playing for long durations.
I jumped ship. I had the iPhone 6 tough.
I do have a reason for the switch though and it stems from the bending issue.. I had my iphone 6 bend. even with the applecare + 2 year warranty, they laughed and told me I sat on it.
I've had every iPhone since they were released..
Went home, posted mine, my wife's iphones, 2 x apple tv and 2 ipads. All gone..
Apple is a garbage company.
The reason why it lags because the phone overheats. So if you know how to tweak your phones and install custom kernels, buy a faster phone and just underclock it so that it won't overheat instead of buying a slower phone. Most of the games can still be handled by Note 4 even on half the clock speed. And when you need a faster speed, you can set it back to normal clock.
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The reason why it lags because the phone overheats. So if you know how to tweak your phones and install custom kernels, buy a faster phone and just underclock it so that it won't overheat instead of buying a slower phone. Most of the games can still be handled by Note 4 even on half the clock speed. And when you need a faster speed, you can set it back to normal clock.
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Do you have any suggestions for the 910H variant that tends to overheat on average moderate usage? As it has no much custom kernels support
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Do you have any suggestions for the 910H variant that tends to overheat on average moderate usage? As it has no much custom kernels support
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Actually I encountered an issue last time that my phone gets hot even when doing simple tasks. It turns out that some application is consistently using my CPU. You can see the thread I created below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/upper-screen-getting-hot-t3103904
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Actually I encountered an issue last time that my phone gets hot even when doing simple tasks. It turns out that some application is consistently using my CPU. You can see the thread I created below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/upper-screen-getting-hot-t3103904
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I dont seem to have any problem with knox app. Perhaps it could be a different app/process. Any way to confirm that?
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I dont seem to have any problem with knox app. Perhaps it could be a different app/process. Any way to confirm that?
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Install Elixir 2 app and look for any process that is constantly running or getting high CPU on the background even when you're not using it.
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Install Elixir 2 app and look for any process that is constantly running or getting high CPU on the background even when you're not using it.
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Ok here is what i saw. Are u referring to this?? It seems to be the heaviest cpu consumer on my device.
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Ok here is what i saw. Are u referring to this?? It seems to be the heaviest cpu consumer on my device.
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Yes. That's the same with what I have last time. If you didn't install any additional third party security software, it could be the Knox application.
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Yes. That's the same with what I have last time. If you didn't install any additional third party security software, it could be the Knox application.
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If you are rooted, try to freeze all Knox application using Link2SD.
Anyone else phone just not smooth at all? I'm on latest 7.0 and my phone is so slow for a phone with these internals. I don't get it. Is there something I'm doing wrong. This phone all around has severally disappointed me. My edge is so slow that it makes the iPhone seem fast. What do I do? Seems like memory management is still poor and this processor was weak, I would have been happier with an 8 core exynos vs 4 core snap 821
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Anyone else phone just not smooth at all? I'm on latest 7.0 and my phone is so slow for a phone with these internals. I don't get it. Is there something I'm doing wrong. This phone all around has severally disappointed me. My edge is so slow that it makes the iPhone seem fast. What do I do? Seems like memory management is still poor and this processor was weak, I would have been happier with an 8 core exynos vs 4 core snap 821
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It's a Samsung with Samsung bloatware.. It's going to always have lag unfortunately. I've had almost every major Android phone since the HTC Hero that includes iPhone as well and Samsung is constantly the laggiest although my S7 edge has been pretty good still no where near an iPhone or pixel
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Try downloading package disabler pro and disabling some crapware
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It's a Samsung with Samsung bloatware.. It's going to always have lag unfortunately. I've had almost every major Android phone since the HTC Hero that includes iPhone as well and Samsung is constantly the laggiest although my S7 edge has been pretty good still no where near an iPhone or pixel
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Try downloading package disabler pro and disabling some crapware
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Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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That's what I did! Nova and 0 animations is a huge improvement. I'm considering trading my S7 Edge for a Moto G5 Plus next Friday just to ditch bloatware
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That's what I did! Nova and 0 animations is a huge improvement. I'm considering trading my S7 Edge for a Moto G5 Plus next Friday just to ditch bloatware
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That wouldn't be a bad idea. I was trying to hold off to see what new phones sprint gets in a month or 2 but it's driving me nuts with this phone. Google really killed my dreams by not getting the pixel and XL to all carriers.
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That wouldn't be a bad idea. I was trying to hold off to see what new phones sprint gets in a month or 2 but it's driving me nuts with this phone. Google really killed my dreams by not getting the pixel and XL to all carriers.
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I'm on Sprint as well and know what you mean but you can still use the unlocked pixel on Sprint at least but hopefully next one won't be a Verizon exclusive
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Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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If the S8 is anything like the Note 7, I'll gladly move to it. I'll pay the fee to get rid of the S7E and move to the S8Plus.
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If the S8 is anything like the Note 7, I'll gladly move to it. I'll pay the fee to get rid of the S7E and move to the S8Plus.
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Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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Hadn't heard about that, looked it up, sadly it appears we're not going to get it in the US.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/03/28/samsung-wont-release-a-refurbished-galaxy-note-7-in-the-us/
Only thing about the S8+ I won't like is the lack of a stylus. Tomorrows the revealing IIRC so I'll be anxious to see if that changes. I really wish it would and the bigger phone gets a stylus.
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Hadn't heard about that, looked it up, sadly it appears we're not going to get it in the US.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/03/28/samsung-wont-release-a-refurbished-galaxy-note-7-in-the-us/
Only thing about the S8+ I won't like is the lack of a stylus. Tomorrows the revealing IIRC so I'll be anxious to see if that changes. I really wish it would and the bigger phone gets a stylus.
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So no Note 7 refurb in the US? Wow that's weak. That article I saw was a bit misleading I guess. It made it seem like world wide they would sell. I'm sure the refurbs will probably land on eBay but that's a full price phone is rather lease. Well, here's to hoping the s8 and s8+ live up to the hype since other Android​ OEMs aren't technically iPhone killers. Samsung is but they definitely suck in everything but hardware...
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Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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S7 Edge has the 820, not the 821, even though the only difference between the 2 is like a 10% increase in performance due to slightly higher clock speeds in the cores & gpu. What you are experiencing man is typical Samsung lag due to all of the damn bloat on the device. I've been using a HTC 10 the past couple weeks that I bought from someone on Let Go for only $200 due to the misses breaking her Moto X Pure. I gave her my S7 Edge to use until she upgrades to the S8+ next month & was going to resume using my Edge then but nope not now! The 820 is very smooth & efficient on here with virtually no lag at all & also I'm fully rooted. Only thing I miss is using Samsung Pay & earning reward points but that's only a small sacrifice, besides I can still use Android Pay & while rooted too thanks to Magisk & if I need to return to stock for any reason I don't have to worry about no stupid KNOX crippling core features on the phone & driving down its resale value. My S7 Edge will be going up for sale!
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Have you tried turning 2 of your cores off? I'm sure that would significantly help you with your extensive battery drainage.
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Have you tried turning 2 of your cores off? I'm sure that would significantly help you with your extensive battery drainage.
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Turn off 2 of 4 cores? That would make the lag even worse. With 4 cores this phones lag is horrible I couldn't imagine only using 2 cores ie power save etc lol.
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Turn off 2 of 4 cores? That would make the lag even worse. With 4 cores this phones lag is horrible I couldn't imagine only using 2 cores ie power save etc lol.
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Wow. You're mistaken. Try rooting and applying govtuner or you can continue to suffer haha
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Wow. You're mistaken. Try rooting and applying govtuner or you can continue to suffer haha
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Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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If you put forth the effort to eliminate the constant issues you're having, because its possible, then you wouldn't be so stressed and irritated. If you're holding on to it for a while, why not tweak it instead of doing absolutely nothing. :cyclops:
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Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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Have you gone through and checked which apps could be causing the lag? (Facebook comes to mind)! I haven't rooted either and my phone has no lag. It's almost always some app that's draining resources.
The lag culprit has been found!!!
Just as I expected, the lag is do to thermal throttling. I get extremely low benchmark scores, like a little over half what I should be getting. Ran the benchmark programs with my phone in a cup of icewater.. My scores doubled.
I am on a S7 Edge 7.0 rooted android. How can I change my thermal throttling settings? Is there a script or a program to address this?
3D Mark Sling Shot Extreme Android benchmark test results:
No ice: 1549 (I got around this number every time without ice)
With ice: 2627
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Ran the benchmark programs with my phone in a cup of icewater.. My scores doubled.
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This just made me LOL ?
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Developer option to fix laggggg.
I found an option in developer options that seems to help a lot. It is called do not keep activities. These seems to help keep the ui from clogging up with old worthless data which seems to slow android or at least samsung phones down to the point you have to reset them. I am typing right now like it's an iPhone. I have a galaxy s6 currently but I doubt it has changed. The developer options has to be enabled and if memory serves you tap 7 times on the software info so.ew here in the settings. I am sure it's easily found on the net. Hope this helps.