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This or the s7 edge?

I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?

lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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Well on benchmarks the the new exynos and SD 820 both beat the SD 810
But given you want to use the phone for 3 years I would suggest get a phone with more updates and developer support so that it works flawlessly till you buy your next phone ( so IMO buy nexus)

As a prior N3 user I can tell you the 6p is actually easier to hold however reviewers are praising the Sedge over any other phablet for its pocketability and ease-of-use 1-handed.
The 6p is a big ugly block in my pocket and can be uncomfortable when sitting. Everything else about it is amazing though. With pie controls (and there are non-root apps that do this) 1-handing it is a breeze.
I would say if you value updates, rooting/custom roms and don't care for touchwhiz then go for the Nexus. I'm guessing since you're on XDA you do. Leave the locked down Samsung nightmare behind.

Thanks for all the replies guys, I decided to buy the nexus in the end.
Here's why: I will use it for at least 3 years, so the constant updates are a big plus. Also, even if it has lower specs then the s7, the software is much more optimized. No matter how fluid and smooth touchwiz has become, no Samsung in this world runs better then stock android on the latest nexus flagship.
And even if it has slightly lower specs then the s7, they are still more then enough for what I'm planning to use it for: Internet browsing, YouTube, Facebook, clash of clans and taking pictures (I read that the camera is great).
The reason I'll be using it this much is that the store I buy it from, here in Romania, offers the possibility to get 1 or 2 more years of warranty, aside from the 2 years the device already comes with. And if do I get extra warranty, it becomes premium warranty. This means: if my device breaks and needs to be sent for repair, they send a courier to my door to pick the product for me, free of charge and free shipping. And if they don't fix the device within 5 working days, I can get a full refund of the initial price. That's right, after let's say 3 years, when this phone will be worth around 200-300$ in used condition, I can get the full 570$ I initially payed, if they can't fix the phone.
I already did that with my nexus 10 after a year, then got enough money to get the note 3. My note still has 2 more years and a few months of warranty, in which time I'm 100% positive that it will eventually break.
The note goes to my girlfriend and I decided that I want a new phone, a premium one that I'll be using for a long time while I have the 4 years warranty.

Congratz! enjoy your Nexus 6p Bad Boy on XDA.

U have had all galaxy S line. Trade my note 5 for nexus 6p which was my first nexus phone. I can tell u that i never felt in love with a phone ao much like the nexus 6p. Even the note 5 was driving crazy with lag in app like fb, youtube etc.
I have 2 galaxy s7 edge on preorder tmobile bogo, But will most likely will be sell both. I already went to the store like 5time to play with the edge. I have tried to really like it but i dont. It feel like a toy. Nexus 6p is more mature looking. S7 is faster but nexus 6p stock android is way smoother. Now with androis N releasinf in the fall i can see all galaxy s owner crying and waiting 6 month for a single update. Not only samsung releasing the update. But thwn u have to way for thw carrier to release them. 6.0.1 waa release a month agon on the note 5. Tmobile,att still have not.

Root s7 and forget that your device will go to deep sleep after reverting to stock ...
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Obviously 6p, we already have Android N!! lol

lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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@lvnatic You might want to see this. You made the right choice. (Cea mai bună alegere, am să-ți mai scriu în privat).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=65746519
Trimis de pe al meu Nexus 6P folosind Tapatalk

eduardmc said:
U have had all galaxy S line. Trade my note 5 for nexus 6p which was my first nexus phone. I can tell u that i never felt in love with a phone ao much like the nexus 6p. Even the note 5 was driving crazy with lag in app like fb, youtube etc.
I have 2 galaxy s7 edge on preorder tmobile bogo, But will most likely will be sell both. I already went to the store like 5time to play with the edge. I have tried to really like it but i dont. It feel like a toy. Nexus 6p is more mature looking. S7 is faster but nexus 6p stock android is way smoother. Now with androis N releasinf in the fall i can see all galaxy s owner crying and waiting 6 month for a single update. Not only samsung releasing the update. But thwn u have to way for thw carrier to release them. 6.0.1 waa release a month agon on the note 5. Tmobile,att still have not.
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I totally agree I mean the s6 is still on 5.1 by the time that updates to mashmelow then I android N, it might be years. That's why am sticking with nexus as got fed up waiting for updates from Sammy.

marvi0 said:
I totally agree I mean the s6 is still on 5.1 by the time that updates to mashmelow then I android N, it might be years. That's why am sticking with nexus as got fed up waiting for updates from Sammy.
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good to read all posts above, but need little help if you or someone could :
I am using Edge + for last 5 months and still waiting for MM to drop for my phone version
I am thinking to sell my edge + and buy 6P coz i love flashing roms and modifying system files
now what I have read everywhere, the screen is not better on 6P compare to edge +
camera software lags and can take time to save pictures if HDR is used (compare to edge + / Note 5)
starts lagging after the phone gets hot. or say the processor throttles down which I have never seen on my edge +
please tell me what above points are true or am I taking the right decision of selling Edge + for 6 P ?
sorry I can not see 6P in any mobile shop in my town, they sell but they don't have it on display....so I have to buy sealed pack without trying/using it first
I would appreciate if someone could help me take decision
Regards

I guess I'm too late, but I've owned both. And my answer would be S7 Edge without any question. I won't go into all the reasons since you already got the 6P. Definitely enjoy your device!

gitin said:
now what I have read everywhere, the screen is not better on 6P compare to edge +
camera software lags and can take time to save pictures if HDR is used (compare to edge + / Note 5)
starts lagging after the phone gets hot. or say the processor throttles down which I have never seen on my edge +
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This imo.

Elnrik said:
This imo.
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thanks for the reply !
alright so its just the display which I will miss right ?
i am reading thread where many have complained about the pink/grey tint issues with the display and even after getting their phone replaced so many times, its still not perfect
I guess, its something I won't like because my edge+ screen is perfect
now I have to decide, if I want perfect screen then s7 edge or nexus 6P if I need rom development
oooohhh tough call

gitin said:
alright so its just the display which I will miss right ?
i am reading thread where many have complained about the pink/grey tint issues with the display and even after getting their phone replaced so many times, its still not perfect
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You probably will miss the display. Sammy has great displays - arguably the best in the business. I attribute this to the brightness of the screen more than anything else.
I think the pink/grey thing is definitely not a predominant issue with the majority of the 6Ps being shipped. Most of my family have 6Ps based on my recommendation, and none of them have had that issue. Neither have the ones I've seen at Best Buy, or the ones my friends and colleagues use. If it weren't for the vocal few here, I'd never have known the issue exists. In short: I doubt you'll have a problem, and if you do by all accounts I've read on Google's support, it has been stellar.
Also, the 6P screen is far from terrible. It's just not as bright as the S7's display. They're both AMOLED so they'll saturate colors, but both phones give you options on color correction.

Elnrik said:
You probably will miss the display. Sammy has great displays - arguably the best in the business. I attribute this to the brightness of the screen more than anything else.
I think the pink/grey thing is definitely not a predominant issue with the majority of the 6Ps being shipped. Most of my family have 6Ps based on my recommendation, and none of them have had that issue. Neither have the ones I've seen at Best Buy, or the ones my friends and colleagues use. If it weren't for the vocal few here, I'd never have known the issue exists. In short: I doubt you'll have a problem, and if you do by all accounts I've read on Google's support, it has been stellar.
Also, the 6P screen is far from terrible. It's just not as bright as the S7's display. They're both AMOLED so they'll saturate colors, but both phones give you options on color correction.
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thanks again my friend, I really appreciate your help !
I think i might not see color tint because most of the time I use my phone on 90% manual brightness and people who are complaining about the tint issue use their phone below 50% brightness, I think that is the time when tint is more noticeable ?
Also, 1 last question, do we also have so many variants of 6P ?
coz on my edge+ there are so many variants, different for all countries, many have got MM update already but I am still waiting because Sami hasn't dropped update for my variant yet
If I buy 6P, do I need to look for some special variant to buy online so all roms are available to flash ?
or any unlocked phone from local shop will do ?
thanks again

gitin said:
thanks again my friend, I really appreciate your help !
I think i might not see color tint because most of the time I use my phone on 90% manual brightness and people who are complaining about the tint issue use their phone below 50% brightness, I think that is the time when tint is more noticeable ?
Also, 1 last question, do we also have so many variants of 6P ?
coz on my edge+ there are so many variants, different for all countries, many have got MM update already but I am still waiting because Sami hasn't dropped update for my variant yet
If I buy 6P, do I need to look for some special variant to buy online so all roms are available to flash ?
or any unlocked phone from local shop will do ?
thanks again
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You're welcome. Glad to help.
I honestly don't know. I normally adjust my display manually: Under 40%-ish while I'm browsing in bed with the lights off. (It's blinding at 80% or more in a dark room.) I've had no issue on my screen under 50%, or with adaptive brightness on. Looks fine above 50% too. Brightness settings are not something I worry about messing with, so I adjust often. Other people seem to be a bit more OCD about the whole thing. They search for the perfect all-around brightness for them, and hate messing with it once they've found that spot. Personally, I don't understand that, but... to each their own.
No, nothing special. There are only 2 variants I think? I had to google for it. I came across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/3omi6l/nexus_6p_us_vs_international_model/ So, if you live outside North America, get the international version. As far as I know, the factory images contain everything for both variants, and I would assume most ROMs do as well.

Elnrik said:
You're welcome. Glad to help.
I honestly don't know. I normally adjust my display manually: Under 40%-ish while I'm browsing in bed with the lights off. (It's blinding at 80% or more in a dark room.) I've had no issue on my screen under 50%, or with adaptive brightness on. Looks fine above 50% too. Brightness settings are not something I worry about messing with, so I adjust often. Other people seem to be a bit more OCD about the whole thing. They search for the perfect all-around brightness for them, and hate messing with it once they've found that spot. Personally, I don't understand that, but... to each their own.
No, nothing special. There are only 2 variants I think? I had to google for it. I came across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/3omi6l/nexus_6p_us_vs_international_model/ So, if you live outside North America, get the international version. As far as I know, the factory images contain everything for both variants, and I would assume most ROMs do as well.
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thanks thanks again,
my friend is going to buy my phone in a week, will then buy 6P and make some goodies
i have made few mods/themes for other phones i owned, i'll be happy to learn more from 6 P forum
god bless you !
will PM you if I need to ask anything before purchase, don't want to spam this thread anymore

http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
No development for the s7 on any carrier is pretty lame. T-mobile bootloaders locked.

Preordered the HTC 10, But Also looking at the s7e What to do?

Hi everyone. I apologize if this type of post is not allowed. I have been mulling over the s7e SNAPDRAGON and the HTC 10 for the past 2 weeks. Id buy the s7e on swappa so price is the same.
The biggest things for me are software feel, camera, and battery. I like stock android alot. So the htc 10 looks sweet. But then theres samsungs theme engine. Now Im coming from and S4 so theming was light if any. What I'm seeing from the s7e blows my mind. The only reason I used to room my s4 was for different themes so no root on the 820 doesnt bother me especially with the new theme engine. The fact it themes everything is amazing. Not sure if the HTC 10 does this or not but with stock android look its not as important but it would be nice to change it up every once in a while.
The camera on both of these phones look amazing. Expecially the low light. I know the s7e is a little better in low light but its not a huge enough difference to completely be the deciding factor for me. The focus speed on the s7e looks absolutely insane. I do like the over saturated look of the pics on the s7e but not the yellowish tint. Video also looks very stable and not shakey. The htc 10 looks to be on par with video.
Battery life looks like something the s7e beats the 10 easily. Ive seen the 10 get anywhere from 4-5 sot. The s7e 820 seems to get above 5 hrs sot? right? anyone chime in on this. On reddit and the forums its hard to tell sometimes if its exynos or 820.
Does the s7e ever get hot or warm to the touch? my s4 feels like a burning rock in my pocket sometimes lol. Hows tw lag? is it alot better than it used to be? or is it just good out of the box then it shows up again?
Speaker quality isnt a huge deal as all i watch are youtube videos or plug my phone into my car.
Updates are another thing that bothers me also. HTC has a very good record of updating phones fast. Samsung not so much. Well more so the carriers. The htc 10 i have preordered is unlocked. The S7e Id get is Tmobile variant. Id try to get exynos but Id like to get a phone with the manufactures warranty. Also hear the exynos is hard to get repaired as Samsung doesnt like to repair it in the USA.
The whole usb c vs micro doesnt bother me much but I do like that C seems to be more sturdy and durable.
so what doesnt everyone think I should do? Whats your experience compared to what Ive heard? Are my thots right? to servere? am I way off? All imput is welcome Anyone here in the same position or leaving the s7e for the 10? or just decided on the s7e over the 10 and why?
Thanks guys! :fingers-crossed::good::good:

S7 Edge Pros:
- Bigger screen at the same size (which is a really big deal)
- As far as camera and battery goes, I think the S7 Edge has a clear edge Dual-pixel tech in a smartphone is a very big deal, Canon still saves this technology for their very best cameras.
- Battery - 3600 vs 3000 mAh - enough said.
- Screen efficiency - AMOLED vs TFT (that's why you get great SOT on the S7 Edge, but poor standby times on the SD820)
- Wireless charging if you want to protect your USB port over time.
- Much better technical support if you need it (hopefully not). Much better country presence.
- If the Always-On Display will ever be upgraded to display all notifications (not only missed calls and SMS messages) this will be a huge pro
HTC 10 Pros:
- Always-on fingerprint sensor. The fingerprint sensor needs home button press to work on the S7, which is stupid in 2016. It should be always-on. So I have it disabled, if it would be touch-only I would enable it.
- Speakers (but I don't care for this).

Cst79 said:
S7 Edge Pros:
- Bigger screen at the same size (which is a really big deal)
- As far as camera and battery goes, I think the S7 Edge has a clear edge Dual-pixel tech in a smartphone is a very big deal, Canon still saves this technology for their very best cameras.
- Battery - 3600 vs 3000 mAh - enough said.
- Screen efficiency - AMOLED vs TFT (that's why you get great SOT on the S7 Edge, but poor standby times on the SD820)
- Wireless charging if you want to protect your USB port over time.
- Much better technical support if you need it (hopefully not). Much better country presence.
- If the Always-On Display will ever be upgraded to display all notifications (not only missed calls and SMS messages) this will be a huge pro
HTC 10 Pros:
- Always-on fingerprint sensor. The fingerprint sensor needs home button press to work on the S7, which is stupid in 2016. It should be always-on. So I have it disabled, if it would be touch-only I would enable it.
- Speakers (but I don't care for this).
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thanks for the reply How has ur experience been with touchwiz? Any lag? do you have the sd820? what sot do you usually get? Screen size isnt a huge deal for me .3 inches. Id rather have the battery life instead of AOD. Im not sure if id use wireless charging. The extra charging option would be nice incase but i always worry that the battery degrades faster over time with wireless charging. Having to clock the fingerprint home button is a negative for me. My s4 made an annoying crunch sounds when it was click. Its it a more shallow click now? Same for me I dont care really about speakers so there moot on the 10. Also for me its sense ui and faster updates vs Touchwiz and slow updates.

aknotts415 said:
thanks for the reply How has ur experience been with touchwiz? Any lag? do you have the sd820? what sot do you usually get? Screen size isnt a huge deal for me .3 inches. Id rather have the battery life instead of AOD. Im not sure if id use wireless charging. The extra charging option would be nice incase but i always worry that the battery degrades faster over time with wireless charging. Having to clock the fingerprint home button is a negative for me. My s4 made an annoying crunch sounds when it was click. Its it a more shallow click now? Same for me I dont care really about speakers so there moot on the 10. Also for me its sense ui and faster updates vs Touchwiz and slow updates.
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I have the Exynos.
I never hated TouchWiz and I think it is ok, no lag whatsoever, but I use Nova Launcher solely because I need double-tap to sleep. But I do have a dark theme set overall and it's great. Theming is a major plus.
The difference in screen size is big, around 20% in surface area. I had a 5.2" LG G2 and it's very noticeable.
The button clicking sound is bad enough and the press is not shallow. Home button is also raised (stupidly, should be sunken) and it could click in your pocket if you don't have a proper case. But I found a workaround, I hold the phone in the front pocket with the upper part down, this almost eliminates the issue.
About the updates, I don't really care, because it works really well as it is (except for the last update which ruined battery life for Exynos and made it similar to SD820). However, for the record, the International version received like 3-4 updates since launch, each brought something new (some good things, some really bad things).

Coming from someone who ended up hating touch wiz, I really dig it this time around. It's so much closer to stock and cleaner. They did good with it this time. I'm also coming from the HTC One M7 and M8, and I have zero interest in the 10.
The camera in the S7 blows away the HTC. I've seen a lot of screenshots of the HTC, and that and the S7 next to each other, and the HTC is actually fairly grainy. Pretty unacceptable, especially the last 4 phones, new one included having a bad camera. The S7 pictures are incredibly clear, the best I have seen on a phone personally. And the low-light is crazy.
The speaker on the S7 is actually very loud and fairly clear.
The screen size is much better on the S7 Edge. Plus the phone is almost the same size, another thing I hated about the HTC phones, they waste sooo much space on the phone.
The Edge places app is pretty convenient. It sets different settings on your phone based on location and/or WiFi/Bluetooth. Works great for me since I always forget to silence my phone when I get to work.
Can't say much about battery life in comparison since I have not read any real, long-term reviews on the HTC. But my S7 Edge gets nearly two full days in between charges on the regular.
Updates... I don't agree with you there regarding HTC. I have NEVER gotten an Android update within their 90 day BS. And that seems to be solely for new Android versions. Any updates to Android seem to either come way later than that, or never. My One M8 updated to Lollipop in March '15, then didn't get another update until December-which was not to fix anything, just Stagefright. And Lollipop did NOT work well at all, and HTC left us behind and wouldn't fix anything that was broken. That's where they really lost me.
Anyway, my $0.02

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Coming from someone who ended up hating touch wiz, I really dig it this time around. It's so much closer to stock and cleaner. They did good with it this time. I'm also coming from the HTC One M7 and M8, and I have zero interest in the 10.
The camera in the S7 blows away the HTC. I've seen a lot of screenshots of the HTC, and that and the S7 next to each other, and the HTC is actually fairly grainy. Pretty unacceptable, especially the last 4 phones, new one included having a bad camera. The S7 pictures are incredibly clear, the best I have seen on a phone personally. And the low-light is crazy.
The speaker on the S7 is actually very loud and fairly clear.
The screen size is much better on the S7 Edge. Plus the phone is almost the same size, another thing I hated about the HTC phones, they waste sooo much space on the phone.
The Edge places app is pretty convenient. It sets different settings on your phone based on location and/or WiFi/Bluetooth. Works great for me since I always forget to silence my phone when I get to work.
Can't say much about battery life in comparison since I have not read any real, long-term reviews on the HTC. But my S7 Edge gets nearly two full days in between charges on the regular.
Updates... I don't agree with you there regarding HTC. I have NEVER gotten an Android update within their 90 day BS. And that seems to be solely for new Android versions. Any updates to Android seem to either come way later than that, or never. My One M8 updated to Lollipop in March '15, then didn't get another update until December-which was not to fix anything, just Stagefright. And Lollipop did NOT work well at all, and HTC left us behind and wouldn't fix anything that was broken. That's where they really lost me.
Anyway, my $0.02
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Hmm thanks for the reply. Means alot coming from a former HTC fan. What other reasons made you not continue with them?

aknotts415 said:
Hmm thanks for the reply. Means alot coming from a former HTC fan. What other reasons made you not continue with them?
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Well, their lack of doing something new for one. The M7 I think looked the best and was the best size. The 8 just got larger without much added to screen size. The camera was really bad. And this new one seems more of the same to me. All they did was chamfered the back, otherwise is identical to the M8 and M9, then they changed the front to look just like every other Android phone now, except the top and bottom bars are obnoxiously big.
Honestly, the biggest is definitely them leaving us in the dark with updates and letting our phones go on not working right indefinitely. You just can't decide to stop supporting your phones and customers if you want to stay in business. The M8 didn't even need the latest Android, it just needed HTC software fixes to make it work, but those never happened...
Anyway, to each their own. The 10 may be a bada$$ phone. I'm just really loving this Edge.

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Well, their lack of doing something new for one. The M7 I think looked the best and was the best size. The 8 just got larger without much added to screen size. The camera was really bad. And this new one seems more of the same to me. All they did was chamfered the back, otherwise is identical to the M8 and M9, then they changed the front to look just like every other Android phone now, except the top and bottom bars are obnoxiously big.
Honestly, the biggest is definitely them leaving us in the dark with updates and letting our phones go on not working right indefinitely. You just can't decide to stop supporting your phones and customers if you want to stay in business. The M8 didn't even need the latest Android, it just needed HTC software fixes to make it work, but those never happened...
Anyway, to each their own. The 10 may be a bada$$ phone. I'm just really loving this Edge.
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Awesome to hear. Maybe I will cancel and get the edge. Do you have snapdragon 820 or exynos? hows battery life?

aknotts415 said:
Awesome to hear. Maybe I will cancel and get the edge. Do you have snapdragon 820 or exynos? hows battery life?
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Snapdragon for Verizon. I had to meddle with the settings a bit, but I get nearly two full days every charge. I'm a fairly moderate user though, not really any gaming, just a lot of email (work), fitness stuff, and Facebook/LinkedIn/etc.

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Snapdragon for Verizon. I had to meddle with the settings a bit, but I get nearly two full days every charge. I'm a fairly moderate user though, not really any gaming, just a lot of email (work), fitness stuff, and Facebook/LinkedIn/etc.
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Sounds like me lol reddit email twitter youtube. Do you know how many hours of SOT you get? Ill be getting the tmobile snapdragon one

Honestly, just go to a store and play with each of them. Of course it's always personal preference.

S7E.
Why?
3600mah vs 3000mah
5'5 vs 5'2 display
Look of the s7e to me is nicer.

posting on the S7E thread, i guess you will get more positive for the S7E than the 10?
that being said, S7E for me. best phone i have owned.

Same. ?

If you want ROMs, root, and Xposed get the 10 or Exynos S7 edge.

If you were thinking s7 or m10 I'd probably say m10 but we have the edge and this phone is the best you can get, so I'd say S7 Edge no question.
Sent from my Gold S7 Edge

personal preference really
if size doesn't matter then HTC 10.
Speaker Sound HTC
Software HTC 10 (closer to stock)
Look Design S7E
XDA Development and support HTC 10
Camera Video S7E
Practical daily use HTC 10
Waterproof S7E
Due to HTC being only 5.2 i've gone with S7E bigger screen but i still hate TW.

Anyone regret getting this phone? :/

I have the U11 since inception along with the S8 (exynos variant) and Oneplus 5. I really regret buying it since I cant even sell it now. I'm left with the choice of selling my other two phone and use this :/

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I have the U11 since inception along with the S8 (exynos variant) and Oneplus 5. I really regret buying it since I cant even sell it now. I'm left with the choice of selling my other two phone and use this :/
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And would you like to explain why you don't want to use u11 and keep other devices instead?
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

What don't you like about the phone? I just got mine and I'm enjoying it so far. Only thing is aftermarket support isn't that great.
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melihcarter said:
And would you like to explain why you don't want to use u11 and keep other devices instead?
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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.

KeepItzRoot said:
The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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Before I got mine I did a ton of research. Went to a MeetU event, checked it out in Sprint stores and saw tons of reviews. I knew the stuff I had to live with like the dongle for headphones. Sorry you don't like the phone. I'm assuming you can't return it anymore?
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You are more than welcome to your opinion but why on Earth can you "not sell your phone"?

I like the phone at the moment.I think it will be a problem to resell it because not so many people are using HTC.Nobody from my friends are using HTC.iPhone and Samsung addicted ?

The only thing I regret about the U11 is its size, but I didn't have any way to test it out before purchasing. It's difficult for me to use with one hand. I still have a couple of weeks to return it for a refund, and really the only newer phone that intrigues me is the Essential. But that device feels like a gamble in a few ways.
I don't see why you would have any problems selling the U11. You may not receive as much as you paid for it, but somebody will buy it. Someone bought my 10 a few weeks ago (with several accessors) for $475 very quickly.

No, I made an informed decision and went with the best option for me.
I like that the phone comes with a USB DAC, I like the sapphire blue glass, I use the squeeze feature multiple times in a day, the only thing I've got slight reservations are the change to the warranty stance over unlocking the bootloader and their updates not being fast enough.
E.g. the new update indicates the display sensitivity issue is fixed and yet the 001 WWE users will probably be waiting another month.
But then again, I'd rather have this device over any of the others currently in the market.

KeepItzRoot said:
The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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Battery life not good?
10 hours screen on time on stock is easily achieved on the u11?
Wow.... Your expectations must be very high

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Battery life not good?
10 hours screen on time on stock is easily achieved on the u11?
Wow.... Your expectations must be very high
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10 hours...did you shut off everything, turn screen brightness to 0? I can barely get it past 4 hours.
I use my phone typically with everything on, and auto brightness on. I never have a problem with the oneplus 5 or S8 last beyond 5 hours.

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No, I made an informed decision and went with the best option for me.
I like that the phone comes with a USB DAC, I like the sapphire blue glass, I use the squeeze feature multiple times in a day, the only thing I've got slight reservations are the change to the warranty stance over unlocking the bootloader and their updates not being fast enough.
E.g. the new update indicates the display sensitivity issue is fixed and yet the 001 WWE users will probably be waiting another month.
But then again, I'd rather have this device over any of the others currently in the market.
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I dont have sensitivity issue. All phones works well as far as audio goes, I power my HD800s with a proper DAC/AMP not with a phone DAC/AMP. I cant see any in-ear monitor that cant be power (and power well) with any of these phones, its 2017.

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10 hours...did you shut off everything, turn screen brightness to 0? I can barely get it past 4 hours.
I use my phone typically with everything on, and auto brightness on. I never have a problem with the oneplus 5 or S8 last beyond 5 hours.
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Check the megathread, there's screenshots in there. Not from myself but other users

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You are more than welcome to your opinion but why on Earth can you "not sell your phone"?
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seems like no one wants it. It depreciate alot! I had this problem with the HTC 10 too, but being a tech/phone (dummy) I bought another HTC :/

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thats the thing, phone usage is based on user to user. I am using the phone the same as my 2 other phones and it cant hang. You can go to any phone thread and there are people making ridiculous claim about their SOT, even in the S8. ask how they do it and they throw out a bunch of things they did such as turning down brightness to 0, some even put phone on airplane mode -_- c'mon man.

Im not which region your in OP, but in UK, you can trade your U11 to CEX for £415 against something else in store or £345 cash in hand.. and I think GAME do something similar.. Or eBay about £350-450 , which isnt the best, but if you dislike it that much.. then better some kind of cash than nothing...
The only thing I dislike about the U11 is that f**king News Republic is forced upon us if we want to use BlinkFeed, and your battery problem is caused by "News Republic" which powers BlinkFeed.. I actually really loved BF on the M8 and M9, it was useful, but Ive noticed that on the U11, NR is constantly waking the CPU when phone is sleeping and when your not even using BF at all, bit like UpDay used to be on the S7E. Im actually force to disable both BF and NR... and install G .Newsstand instead. Also, even when you "unfollow" a topic. like Football, or Chinese Politics.. it actually doesnt work.. I STILL those Newsfeeds
Now to me, BF was a great part of Sense UI.. and disabling it, is a bit like not using the Stereo Speakers or the camera.. its a major part of HTC phones.. So Im not happy either.. When HTC went stock Google to reduce the Bloat on their phones, why didnt they just bake Google News and Weather or Newsstand as BlinkFeed..
Other than NR... I love the U11 and my G6, but these 2 are my last Android phones.. my next phone is an Iphone 7 plus..

Battery life is very good. But excellent with a custom kernel. Get about 7 hours of on screen time.

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thats the thing, phone usage is based on user to user. I am using the phone the same as my 2 other phones and it cant hang. You can go to any phone thread and there are people making ridiculous claim about their SOT, even in the S8. ask how they do it and they throw out a bunch of things they did such as turning down brightness to 0, some even put phone on airplane mode -_- c'mon man.
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It's not though... It's brightness set at 50 at auto, normal usage and even social media apps..
I don't use my phone that much that I can claim 10 hours screen off time, but my phone easily reached 2 full days of my normal usage and 6 hours screen on time during that time...

Loving mine thus far. Coming from the S7, my battery life and performance has been pretty dang good. Even before S7 root, it is noticeably better. When considering the S7 root situation of having to use an engineering boot/kernel, and the mess it made with the battery life/performance...it's night and day.
The lack of headphone jack is somewhat disappointing. In reality I don't find myself needing headphones as often any more now that I'm done with college and all that jazz. The only other complaint I have is the lack of accessories for it.

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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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* Battery - my SOT is 6hrs. More than any other phone I had used except for the Mi Mix(9-10hrs). Lots of FB, Viber. Regular text messages and calls. some games.
* 3.5mm - you can't complain about this. You had to know from the start that HTC U11 didn't have one.
* Camera - excellent for me.
* This phone is very fast and smooth I have no complaints whatsoever.

Moving from iPhone to android

Dear all ,
Good morning.
I have been considering selling my aging iPhone 6s Plus and moving to android.
Mainly because of stale design(same as 3-4 years ago) and horrible/laggy/battery draining updates.
So about taking a dive back to android.
Before i got my 6s plus i had s7 edge. While i did like the phone overall , i had one major deal breaker for me. Heat.
I do not like a heating phone. I would use s7 edge for 20 minutes surfing the web via wifi and it reached 32-34 degrees (ambient temp 26). iphone would stay cool even if i browsed for hours.
So, my question to you guys, since you already posses the device, is : does the s8 plus behave thermaly the same as s7 edge ~~~clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.?

I cannot compare it to an s7 edge because I did not ever owned one but I can say no, absolutely not. I came from iphone 7 plus to the (normal) s8 and dont ever had the feeling that my device gets an uncomfortable temperature. During basic tasks like browsing, downloading and testing apps, whatsapp&facebook and so on it is "cold" - at least for me. Even when playing light games like clash royale (only game I play now and then) it doesnt come to an uncomfortable temperature, maybe 3-4°C warmer. The only situation the s8 gets really warm (and by warm I dont mean hot) is when charging through usb or qi, but I think this is physically unavoidable.

Personally, I don't have an S8, but I used one for a couple of hours and it gets pretty warm.

Thank you guys!
Just a clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.

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Thank you guys!
Just a clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.
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yes, here in my area (Austria) is also only exynos available

My S8 definitely heats up more with pokemon go compared to my iPhone 7.
By the way, if you think an S8 will get you out of lags and battery drains, read the threads in this forum from other users complaining the exact issues.

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My S8 definitely heats up more with pokemon go compared to my iPhone 7.
By the way, if you think an S8 will get you out of lags and battery drains, read the threads in this forum from other users complaining the exact issues.
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the s8 has also nearly four times the pixels to push than the iphone 7
and my s8 doesnt lag at all after 7 month and I have a custom rom on it, which I have heavily skinned and customized

s8 gets hot only when you fast charge it. Other than that its pretty cool.

Thank you guys! Awaiting more of your experiences in orderr to make an educated purchase!

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Only while gaming and charging. Regular surfing, media playback or socializing has no impact cool as a breeze.
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get an iPhone X Plus if you're used to iPhones
MicI wouldn't recommend S8 or S8+, maybe Note 8, but I think you'll be happier with an iPhone X Plus if you're used to iPhones. Personally, I don't care for iOS at all. Android is way better than iOS, but I really think you'll like iPhone X Plus.
Note: Your experience with an Exynos S8/S8+/Note 8 might be better than mine with S8+ Snapdragon, because it really isn't convenient to have a locked bootloader and a rooted phone that only charges to 80%!

No lag so far on my phone, I came from the S6 and that used to heat up a lot (so much so I could use it as a hand warmer on cold days, and some times I could not hold it to my face on calls).
My S8 has stayed cool, it has only gotten warm once or twice, and that wasn't very much. I regularly surf, use social media, play Vainglory and Mobile Strike. I also stream to my TV every now and then and it's been good.
I have the regular S8 on Oreo Beta 2.

Thank you,
So far it seems that s8plus does not have the same thermal attitude that exynos s7edge had.
I am tempted to make the move soon.

I've had my S8 for 3 odd months now, but I'm not a gamer, I've never had it heat up, I had teh G6 and iPhone 7 prior to this but hated the image quality of the iPhone, just a mushy mess when looking closer, the S8 is in another league IQ wise. iPhones are beautifully built but the S8 is equal to it these days. I'm very happy, I rooted my S8 only this week and am loving it, 60 odd hours between charges, 6 hours SoT (actually want much less before rooting) nothing more I could ask for. Superb device.

I also love my s8 and I also dont think I will upgrade to s9 when its released.
it has a small form factor (compared to other devices with that screen size), a gorgeous display, wireless charging, stereo speakers (with mod), is fast and snappy, has one of the best cameras, is water resistant,...
This phone has all I want and need
everything except the stock android ui experience. if this would happen one day, I think samsung phones would win another like 20-30% of "potential customers that are yet afraid of moving to touchwiz. I themed it as best as possible to stock pixel ui and I can live with it. Maybe samsung is making the move slowly over the years to go away from their playful icons and settings ui and closer to stock like sony or motorola/lenovo did.
Imagine the s8 with stock android - noone would buy pixel 2

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I also love my s8 and I also dont think I will upgrade to s9 when its released.
it has a small form factor (compared to other devices with that screen size), a gorgeous display, wireless charging, stereo speakers (with mod), is fast and snappy, has one of the best cameras, is water resistant,...
This phone has all I want and need
everything except the stock android ui experience. if this would happen one day, I think samsung phones would win another like 20-30% of "potential customers that are yet afraid of moving to touchwiz. I themed it as best as possible to stock pixel ui and I can live with it. Maybe samsung is making the move slowly over the years to go away from their playful icons and settings ui and closer to stock like sony or motorola/lenovo did.
Imagine the s8 with stock android - noone would buy pixel 2
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I agree, if it was stock and updated with the latest OS like the Pixel 2 (it will get more OS updates than through Samsung), then the Pixel 2 would have very few sales.

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I agree, if it was stock and updated with the latest OS like the Pixel 2 (it will get more OS updates than through Samsung), then the Pixel 2 would have very few sales.
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argh..i know.. i was set on pixel 2 XL but the million screen issues put me off..

Some more love here?

Just buy the damm phone ( S8 plus )....
You will not regret it .
Àwesome in every bloody way.
Coming from iphone 7

S8 in late 2018?

Looking to buy my wife a new phone cause her iPhone 6S battery is dieing out. I plan to get her the S8 exynos and flash a pixel room. Thought about getting her an S9 buy the exynos version has problems with poor battery. Plus the S8 is on sale for $375.
Her use is mainly messaging, social media apps and youtube. How's the speed/fluidity of the phone?
I ask cause I have a pixel 2xl and it's working flawlessly. Smoother than the OnePlus 6 I had before it. The SD835 isn't far behind the SD845 like one would think. I also heard good things about the exynos 8895.
I really don't want to get her a phone with issues cause I'll end up having to buy her another one. Would appreciate detailed opinions/reviews. Thanks.

Will008 said:
Looking to buy my wife a new phone cause her iPhone 6S battery is dieing out. I plan to get her the S8 exynos and flash a pixel room. Thought about getting her an S9 buy the exynos version has problems with poor battery. Plus the S8 is on sale for $375.
Her use is mainly messaging, social media apps and youtube. How's the speed/fluidity of the phone?
I ask cause I have a pixel 2xl and it's working flawlessly. Smoother than the OnePlus 6 I had before it. The SD835 isn't far behind the SD845 like one would think. I also heard good things about the exynos 8895.
I really don't want to get her a phone with issues cause I'll end up having to buy her another one. Would appreciate detailed opinions/reviews. Thanks.
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I got the phone about a month ago and here are my thoughts:
-Not as fast as a Pixel 2 or a Oneplus 6 but still good enough. You wouldn't call this a slow phone. Apps won't launch as quickly as a phone with stock android, but it's not a big deal imo. Reduce the animation time from developer settings and you'll be good to go.
-Camera is fantastic. Sometimes even better than the S9.
-Battery life is good after some tweaking. I get about 6 hours of SOT and a full day of mixed use.
-Samsung Experience UI is so much better than the old TouchWiz. I'd suggest that you try it before switching to a custom rom. Features like Good Lock can help you customize your phone like never before. It's not the gimmicky bloat of the past.
-The curved screen is a bloody pain for phone cases and tempered glasses. But I still like it. Makes the grip of the phone much better for me. I'd suggest getting a full screen glue tempered glass from AliExpress or a Whitestone Dome from Amazon (this may sound like a trivial point but trust me, it's very important).
I think the S8 is a great value buy over the S9. I got it for about $380 myself and I have no regrets. Fantastic features, keeps the headphone jack.

6 hours sot? do you mind sharing your tricks, master?
i usually have 3 and end the day on 30-40% left at 8 pm
anaway, i can fully recommend this phone, still looks and feels like it came out two weeks ago

TexasHoldemJoker said:
6 hours sot? do you mind sharing your tricks, master?
i usually have 3 and end the day on 30-40% left at 8 pm
anaway, i can fully recommend this phone, still looks and feels like it came out two weeks ago
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/71imyw/neomancrs_general_battery_and_performance_tuning
I've followed most of these settings.
Make sure you add most of your apps to the "Always Sleeping Apps" list in the battery settings.
Turn off background data for apps you don't need.
Use the "Moderate" setting of battery saving and customize it to your preference.
SOT varies from person to person. On a very heavy day with a full day of 4g use I can get about 4.5-5 hours SOT.
On a light day, I get about 6-6.5 hours
Today was quite a light day. Maybe about an hour of continuous 4g use. Rest has been WiFi and social media.

I only make 3-4h SOT....
So... NO

After year and couple a months that's my opinion.... Awesome

I have this phone for about 10 months now. I had no troubles with it. I haven't seen an app crash since i updated from a really sh phone, alcatel one youch idol mini 3, so from my experience its effin superb phone. Display is amazing, really, amazing. Full screen videos are outstanding, youtube option to zoom till filled is just wow. 2 apps at the same time is my fav option. YT on top and anything else on the bottom. Two accounts for social media apps. Additional storage.. amazing camera with super slo mo 4k video etc.. all in all my experience for s8+ is 9/10

Keep it stock,for a woman its better.

I just got mine second hand about 3 months ago. That is a good deal.
Coming from iphone 6plus(work phone) I did not think I would like it. My other phone at that time was an essential phone. And all my previous phones were pure android. So I did not think I would like the samsung overlay.
It is great the only thing I have done was turn on developer options to get rid if navigation buttons and notification area.
I use it heavily for work email. My app is not battery optimized. Syncing data for changes documents and some tethering data.
Each day I put on the charger at 5:45am and I take it off the charger about 7am and it last me all day until I go to bed about 11pm. I don't pay attention to the battery percentage since I hide the notification at top.
As for speed I don't have a problem.
I would not worry about rooting the phone unless there is a tweak you really need. I have rooted and ROMed every phone but this one. The samsung extras are really good

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Keep it stock,for a woman its better.
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Was only thinking to do that to get rid of bloat and make sure it doesn't slow by time as everyone says about Samsung's phones. From the comments I've been getting I see that's not needed anymore. Thanks.

Will008 said:
Was only thinking to do that to get rid of bloat and make sure it doesn't slow by time as everyone says about Samsung's phones. From the comments I've been getting I see that's not needed anymore. Thanks.
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Nah I still got mine other than a couple stock restores due to bricking mine doesn't ever lag. But I am also rooted and tweaked to the max allowable.
I would have to say depending on the price it's still a good option just no root method for US users any more