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This or the s7 edge?

I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?

lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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Well on benchmarks the the new exynos and SD 820 both beat the SD 810
But given you want to use the phone for 3 years I would suggest get a phone with more updates and developer support so that it works flawlessly till you buy your next phone ( so IMO buy nexus)

As a prior N3 user I can tell you the 6p is actually easier to hold however reviewers are praising the Sedge over any other phablet for its pocketability and ease-of-use 1-handed.
The 6p is a big ugly block in my pocket and can be uncomfortable when sitting. Everything else about it is amazing though. With pie controls (and there are non-root apps that do this) 1-handing it is a breeze.
I would say if you value updates, rooting/custom roms and don't care for touchwhiz then go for the Nexus. I'm guessing since you're on XDA you do. Leave the locked down Samsung nightmare behind.

Thanks for all the replies guys, I decided to buy the nexus in the end.
Here's why: I will use it for at least 3 years, so the constant updates are a big plus. Also, even if it has lower specs then the s7, the software is much more optimized. No matter how fluid and smooth touchwiz has become, no Samsung in this world runs better then stock android on the latest nexus flagship.
And even if it has slightly lower specs then the s7, they are still more then enough for what I'm planning to use it for: Internet browsing, YouTube, Facebook, clash of clans and taking pictures (I read that the camera is great).
The reason I'll be using it this much is that the store I buy it from, here in Romania, offers the possibility to get 1 or 2 more years of warranty, aside from the 2 years the device already comes with. And if do I get extra warranty, it becomes premium warranty. This means: if my device breaks and needs to be sent for repair, they send a courier to my door to pick the product for me, free of charge and free shipping. And if they don't fix the device within 5 working days, I can get a full refund of the initial price. That's right, after let's say 3 years, when this phone will be worth around 200-300$ in used condition, I can get the full 570$ I initially payed, if they can't fix the phone.
I already did that with my nexus 10 after a year, then got enough money to get the note 3. My note still has 2 more years and a few months of warranty, in which time I'm 100% positive that it will eventually break.
The note goes to my girlfriend and I decided that I want a new phone, a premium one that I'll be using for a long time while I have the 4 years warranty.

Congratz! enjoy your Nexus 6p Bad Boy on XDA.

U have had all galaxy S line. Trade my note 5 for nexus 6p which was my first nexus phone. I can tell u that i never felt in love with a phone ao much like the nexus 6p. Even the note 5 was driving crazy with lag in app like fb, youtube etc.
I have 2 galaxy s7 edge on preorder tmobile bogo, But will most likely will be sell both. I already went to the store like 5time to play with the edge. I have tried to really like it but i dont. It feel like a toy. Nexus 6p is more mature looking. S7 is faster but nexus 6p stock android is way smoother. Now with androis N releasinf in the fall i can see all galaxy s owner crying and waiting 6 month for a single update. Not only samsung releasing the update. But thwn u have to way for thw carrier to release them. 6.0.1 waa release a month agon on the note 5. Tmobile,att still have not.

Root s7 and forget that your device will go to deep sleep after reverting to stock ...
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Obviously 6p, we already have Android N!! lol

lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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@lvnatic You might want to see this. You made the right choice. (Cea mai bună alegere, am să-ți mai scriu în privat).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=65746519
Trimis de pe al meu Nexus 6P folosind Tapatalk

eduardmc said:
U have had all galaxy S line. Trade my note 5 for nexus 6p which was my first nexus phone. I can tell u that i never felt in love with a phone ao much like the nexus 6p. Even the note 5 was driving crazy with lag in app like fb, youtube etc.
I have 2 galaxy s7 edge on preorder tmobile bogo, But will most likely will be sell both. I already went to the store like 5time to play with the edge. I have tried to really like it but i dont. It feel like a toy. Nexus 6p is more mature looking. S7 is faster but nexus 6p stock android is way smoother. Now with androis N releasinf in the fall i can see all galaxy s owner crying and waiting 6 month for a single update. Not only samsung releasing the update. But thwn u have to way for thw carrier to release them. 6.0.1 waa release a month agon on the note 5. Tmobile,att still have not.
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I totally agree I mean the s6 is still on 5.1 by the time that updates to mashmelow then I android N, it might be years. That's why am sticking with nexus as got fed up waiting for updates from Sammy.

marvi0 said:
I totally agree I mean the s6 is still on 5.1 by the time that updates to mashmelow then I android N, it might be years. That's why am sticking with nexus as got fed up waiting for updates from Sammy.
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good to read all posts above, but need little help if you or someone could :
I am using Edge + for last 5 months and still waiting for MM to drop for my phone version
I am thinking to sell my edge + and buy 6P coz i love flashing roms and modifying system files
now what I have read everywhere, the screen is not better on 6P compare to edge +
camera software lags and can take time to save pictures if HDR is used (compare to edge + / Note 5)
starts lagging after the phone gets hot. or say the processor throttles down which I have never seen on my edge +
please tell me what above points are true or am I taking the right decision of selling Edge + for 6 P ?
sorry I can not see 6P in any mobile shop in my town, they sell but they don't have it on display....so I have to buy sealed pack without trying/using it first
I would appreciate if someone could help me take decision
Regards

I guess I'm too late, but I've owned both. And my answer would be S7 Edge without any question. I won't go into all the reasons since you already got the 6P. Definitely enjoy your device!

gitin said:
now what I have read everywhere, the screen is not better on 6P compare to edge +
camera software lags and can take time to save pictures if HDR is used (compare to edge + / Note 5)
starts lagging after the phone gets hot. or say the processor throttles down which I have never seen on my edge +
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This imo.

Elnrik said:
This imo.
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thanks for the reply !
alright so its just the display which I will miss right ?
i am reading thread where many have complained about the pink/grey tint issues with the display and even after getting their phone replaced so many times, its still not perfect
I guess, its something I won't like because my edge+ screen is perfect
now I have to decide, if I want perfect screen then s7 edge or nexus 6P if I need rom development
oooohhh tough call

gitin said:
alright so its just the display which I will miss right ?
i am reading thread where many have complained about the pink/grey tint issues with the display and even after getting their phone replaced so many times, its still not perfect
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You probably will miss the display. Sammy has great displays - arguably the best in the business. I attribute this to the brightness of the screen more than anything else.
I think the pink/grey thing is definitely not a predominant issue with the majority of the 6Ps being shipped. Most of my family have 6Ps based on my recommendation, and none of them have had that issue. Neither have the ones I've seen at Best Buy, or the ones my friends and colleagues use. If it weren't for the vocal few here, I'd never have known the issue exists. In short: I doubt you'll have a problem, and if you do by all accounts I've read on Google's support, it has been stellar.
Also, the 6P screen is far from terrible. It's just not as bright as the S7's display. They're both AMOLED so they'll saturate colors, but both phones give you options on color correction.

Elnrik said:
You probably will miss the display. Sammy has great displays - arguably the best in the business. I attribute this to the brightness of the screen more than anything else.
I think the pink/grey thing is definitely not a predominant issue with the majority of the 6Ps being shipped. Most of my family have 6Ps based on my recommendation, and none of them have had that issue. Neither have the ones I've seen at Best Buy, or the ones my friends and colleagues use. If it weren't for the vocal few here, I'd never have known the issue exists. In short: I doubt you'll have a problem, and if you do by all accounts I've read on Google's support, it has been stellar.
Also, the 6P screen is far from terrible. It's just not as bright as the S7's display. They're both AMOLED so they'll saturate colors, but both phones give you options on color correction.
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thanks again my friend, I really appreciate your help !
I think i might not see color tint because most of the time I use my phone on 90% manual brightness and people who are complaining about the tint issue use their phone below 50% brightness, I think that is the time when tint is more noticeable ?
Also, 1 last question, do we also have so many variants of 6P ?
coz on my edge+ there are so many variants, different for all countries, many have got MM update already but I am still waiting because Sami hasn't dropped update for my variant yet
If I buy 6P, do I need to look for some special variant to buy online so all roms are available to flash ?
or any unlocked phone from local shop will do ?
thanks again

gitin said:
thanks again my friend, I really appreciate your help !
I think i might not see color tint because most of the time I use my phone on 90% manual brightness and people who are complaining about the tint issue use their phone below 50% brightness, I think that is the time when tint is more noticeable ?
Also, 1 last question, do we also have so many variants of 6P ?
coz on my edge+ there are so many variants, different for all countries, many have got MM update already but I am still waiting because Sami hasn't dropped update for my variant yet
If I buy 6P, do I need to look for some special variant to buy online so all roms are available to flash ?
or any unlocked phone from local shop will do ?
thanks again
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You're welcome. Glad to help.
I honestly don't know. I normally adjust my display manually: Under 40%-ish while I'm browsing in bed with the lights off. (It's blinding at 80% or more in a dark room.) I've had no issue on my screen under 50%, or with adaptive brightness on. Looks fine above 50% too. Brightness settings are not something I worry about messing with, so I adjust often. Other people seem to be a bit more OCD about the whole thing. They search for the perfect all-around brightness for them, and hate messing with it once they've found that spot. Personally, I don't understand that, but... to each their own.
No, nothing special. There are only 2 variants I think? I had to google for it. I came across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/3omi6l/nexus_6p_us_vs_international_model/ So, if you live outside North America, get the international version. As far as I know, the factory images contain everything for both variants, and I would assume most ROMs do as well.

Elnrik said:
You're welcome. Glad to help.
I honestly don't know. I normally adjust my display manually: Under 40%-ish while I'm browsing in bed with the lights off. (It's blinding at 80% or more in a dark room.) I've had no issue on my screen under 50%, or with adaptive brightness on. Looks fine above 50% too. Brightness settings are not something I worry about messing with, so I adjust often. Other people seem to be a bit more OCD about the whole thing. They search for the perfect all-around brightness for them, and hate messing with it once they've found that spot. Personally, I don't understand that, but... to each their own.
No, nothing special. There are only 2 variants I think? I had to google for it. I came across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/3omi6l/nexus_6p_us_vs_international_model/ So, if you live outside North America, get the international version. As far as I know, the factory images contain everything for both variants, and I would assume most ROMs do as well.
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thanks thanks again,
my friend is going to buy my phone in a week, will then buy 6P and make some goodies
i have made few mods/themes for other phones i owned, i'll be happy to learn more from 6 P forum
god bless you !
will PM you if I need to ask anything before purchase, don't want to spam this thread anymore

http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
No development for the s7 on any carrier is pretty lame. T-mobile bootloaders locked.

This or the nexus 6p?

I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?

lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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I'm facing the same decision as you.
I'm used to the fluidity of the iphone...
I'm just afraid the nexus is too big for me, as i like typing with one hand...
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DroidBiteApple said:
I'm facing the same decision as you.
I'm used to the fluidity of the iphone...
I'm just afraid the nexus is too big for me, as i like typing with one hand...
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With just 0.2" more and a just slightly bigger bezel at the nexus 6p, there isn't that much of a size difference between the two.
When it comes to fluidity, sure both serve a great experience as well. I at least haven't faced any fluidity problems at my G935F within the 2 days I own it and I used it pretty much including playing XCOM and FF9 which both take nice load on the device (it even just gets slightly warm at those games, I only barely noticed it even while it was something I actively checked for). But it's most likely not that much different at the nexus 6p.
The 6p is when it comes to updates more future proof, because it will get them sooner and as it is atm a year longer than the galaxy family (nexus update policy is about 3 years, samsung is known for supporting devices for 2 years, on the other hand, by being mostly open source nexus devices can have a much longer update lifetime through the community and custom roms, galaxy devices as well, but escpecially at exynos devices it is much harder). On the other hand does the s7 ship with vulkan api support already, what is more or less the next big thing in gaming.
When it comes to bare bones benchmark performance, the exynos has the upper hand pretty easily (about 50% better overall performance at antutu).

Had to make the same decision as my old phone died recently. I had the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 5. Now I ended up with the S7 edge. I think it is fair to say that the phone aim for a different type of consumer.
As I was at the university I wanted to have a cheaper phone, with a lot of customization. Also something I could "work" with, e.g. flash and modify.
Now I wanted to have something more "solid". I am not interested in flashing anymore, but something that is and looks like some value. With good camera and good performance (I did not notice the occasional lag nor would a frame lost while scrolling bother me that much).
Thus, I ended up buying the S7.

After having the 6P since it came out, I can say it's really not that great - I'm getting my S7 Edge tomorrow and look forward to using a much smaller phone, with a much better display and camera.

If you're using it for 3 years, then I'd go nexus. I'd get very sick of slow updates and TouchWiz in 3 years. The decision came down to this for me: Updates, development, and front facing speakers or nicer design, best specs available, and SD card.

Tectas said:
With just 0.2" more and a just slightly bigger bezel at the nexus 6p, there isn't that much of a size difference between the two.
When it comes to fluidity, sure both serve a great experience as well. I at least haven't faced any fluidity problems at my G935F within the 2 days I own it and I used it pretty much including playing XCOM and FF9 which both take nice load on the device (it even just gets slightly warm at those games, I only barely noticed it even while it was something I actively checked for). But it's most likely not that much different at the nexus 6p.
The 6p is when it comes to updates more future proof, because it will get them sooner and as it is atm a year longer than the galaxy family (nexus update policy is about 3 years, samsung is known for supporting devices for 2 years, on the other hand, by being mostly open source nexus devices can have a much longer update lifetime through the community and custom roms, galaxy devices as well, but escpecially at exynos devices it is much harder). On the other hand does the s7 ship with vulkan api support already, what is more or less the next big thing in gaming.
When it comes to bare bones benchmark performance, the exynos has the upper hand pretty easily (about 50% better overall performance at antutu).
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I feel like there is a huge size difference between the 6p and s7 edge. 6p feels massive now when I hold it whereas the s7 edge is much better suited for one-hand use.
Overall you can't really go wrong with either. The nexus does feel a bit more fluid when navigating / using apps but it's barely noticeable, and it will receive timely updates. The samsung has the better display, camera, and battery. I think the only thing I really miss from the nexus is the fingerprint reader on the back.

I had the Nexus 6p for two weeks before the metal case buckled near the volume rocker, google it, it's a common problem. I returned it in favor of the S7E.
On the Nexus I loved the fingerprint reader location, front facing speakers and stock Android but I wasn't banking on the hardware lasting 2yrs given that it started to fail after two weeks.

cnsviet said:
I feel like there is a huge size difference between the 6p and s7 edge. 6p feels massive now when I hold it whereas the s7 edge is much better suited for one-hand use.
Overall you can't really go wrong with either. The nexus does feel a bit more fluid when navigating / using apps but it's barely noticeable, and it will receive timely updates. The samsung has the better display, camera, and battery. I think the only thing I really miss from the nexus is the fingerprint reader on the back.
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Sorry for OT, but what is as much better at locating it on the back. I really like it at the front, it's pretty natural to use the thumb to unlock the device while in hand. Maybe slightly less as while it was on the back with the index finger, but I get the ability to also unlock it while the device is lying on the table, what is a big plus for my opinion...

geoff5093 said:
After having the 6P since it came out, I can say it's really not that great - I'm getting my S7 Edge tomorrow and look forward to using a much smaller phone, with a much better display and camera.
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This exactly. It's a great device, hardware wise. However that little size difference DOES make a difference. It's just a hair too long and wide to be comfortable sitting with in in jeans of any sort...and the stock android experience is nice, but a bit overhyped, at least for me. I also found it to be a rather plain, and boring device. Took GREAT photos and i loved the placement of the fingerprint sensor, but ultimately I let it go to get the S7 Edge.

One thing to consider, if you're not going to root it, go with the S7E. I had the Nexus 6P and I can't root due my work app detecting it (even with xposed) and it's just so vanilla that I got pretty bored with it. Even iOS seems to have more options than stock Android. The S7E has a ton of features baked in that are fun to play with.
If you can root though and install ROM's like PA, CM, etc... then the Nexus 6P might be the best way to go.

I sold my 6p the same day I got my s7 edge. To me they are both just as fast. After owning several Samsung and a couple nexus phone I can't believe how fluid and smooth the s7 edge is. As others have stated the 6p did feel a little bigger and harder to manage than the s7 edge. Both are great phones. I don't regret my decision at all.
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If you use your phones for 2-3 years, the S7 might be slightly more future proof because of the great processor be it SD or Exynos, plus 4gb of RAM that should account for at least 2 years of usage imo, and you get the SD card storage so you would probably need to get at least the 64GB 6P in order for it to be slightly future proof.

I've owned the 6P and the 5X so I'll pipe in on this as well. The 6P is a GREAT device when it comes to updates and having the backing of the dev community. If you don't like something about the user experience, you can bet there is something out there that will allow you to modify whatever it is you're griping over. I never had a problem with the hardware and the camera was surprisingly GOOD!
It is, however, a pretty girthy device. When comparing it to the S7 Edge, it's really not even a comparison. The 6P footprint is larger and much more difficult to use one handed. I found myself having to use to do some thumb gymnastics to reach the corners and I'd like to think I have some decent sized hands.
At the end of the day, it boils down to your preference. If you can stomach TW, then get the Galaxy. If you're #TeamStock all the way then the Nexus is for you.

Tectas said:
Sorry for OT, but what is as much better at locating it on the back. I really like it at the front, it's pretty natural to use the thumb to unlock the device while in hand. Maybe slightly less as while it was on the back with the index finger, but I get the ability to also unlock it while the device is lying on the table, what is a big plus for my opinion...
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It just felt a lot more natural in the back and the sensor is more accurate. Not to take anything from the gs7 edge fingerprint sensor which is pretty good but definitely not as good as the nexus.

Erhh.. Still cant decide.
Nexus pros are:
- faster updates
- front facing speakers
- cheaper
Galaxy pros are:
- beautiful
- somewhat smaller and easier to handle one handed
- larger battery
- water resistant
- optical image stabilization
I live in an area where we get the Exynos model...
I hope it will be as good as the snapdragon.
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I've owned both. S7e is a No-Brainer unless you want root.
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I decided to buy the nexus in the end.
Here's why: I will use it for at least 3 years, so the constant updates are a big plus. Also, even if it has lower specs then the s7, the software is much more optimized. No matter how fluid and smooth touchwiz has become, no Samsung in this world runs better then stock android on the latest nexus flagship.
And even if it has slightly lower specs then the s7, they are still more then enough for what I'm planning to use it for: Internet browsing, YouTube, Facebook, clash of clans and taking pictures (I read that the camera is great).
The reason I'll be using it this much is that the store I buy it from, here in Romania, offers the possibility to get 1 or 2 more years of warranty, aside from the 2 years the device already comes with. And if do I get extra warranty, it becomes premium warranty. This means: if my device breaks and needs to be sent for repair, they send a courier to my door to pick the product for me, free of charge and free shipping. And if they don't fix the device within 5 working days, I can get a full refund of the initial price. That's right, after let's say 3 years, when this phone will be worth around 200-300$ in used condition, I can get the full 570$ I initially payed, if they can't fix the phone.
I already did that with my nexus 10 after a year, then got enough money to get the note 3. My note still has 2 more years and a few months of warranty, in which time I'm 100% positive that it will eventually break.
The note goes to my girlfriend and I decided that I want a new phone, a premium one that I'll be using for a long time while I have the 4 years warranty.

If you can't afford an Edge, go with a 6P.

6p horrible batterlife

Preordered the HTC 10, But Also looking at the s7e What to do?

Hi everyone. I apologize if this type of post is not allowed. I have been mulling over the s7e SNAPDRAGON and the HTC 10 for the past 2 weeks. Id buy the s7e on swappa so price is the same.
The biggest things for me are software feel, camera, and battery. I like stock android alot. So the htc 10 looks sweet. But then theres samsungs theme engine. Now Im coming from and S4 so theming was light if any. What I'm seeing from the s7e blows my mind. The only reason I used to room my s4 was for different themes so no root on the 820 doesnt bother me especially with the new theme engine. The fact it themes everything is amazing. Not sure if the HTC 10 does this or not but with stock android look its not as important but it would be nice to change it up every once in a while.
The camera on both of these phones look amazing. Expecially the low light. I know the s7e is a little better in low light but its not a huge enough difference to completely be the deciding factor for me. The focus speed on the s7e looks absolutely insane. I do like the over saturated look of the pics on the s7e but not the yellowish tint. Video also looks very stable and not shakey. The htc 10 looks to be on par with video.
Battery life looks like something the s7e beats the 10 easily. Ive seen the 10 get anywhere from 4-5 sot. The s7e 820 seems to get above 5 hrs sot? right? anyone chime in on this. On reddit and the forums its hard to tell sometimes if its exynos or 820.
Does the s7e ever get hot or warm to the touch? my s4 feels like a burning rock in my pocket sometimes lol. Hows tw lag? is it alot better than it used to be? or is it just good out of the box then it shows up again?
Speaker quality isnt a huge deal as all i watch are youtube videos or plug my phone into my car.
Updates are another thing that bothers me also. HTC has a very good record of updating phones fast. Samsung not so much. Well more so the carriers. The htc 10 i have preordered is unlocked. The S7e Id get is Tmobile variant. Id try to get exynos but Id like to get a phone with the manufactures warranty. Also hear the exynos is hard to get repaired as Samsung doesnt like to repair it in the USA.
The whole usb c vs micro doesnt bother me much but I do like that C seems to be more sturdy and durable.
so what doesnt everyone think I should do? Whats your experience compared to what Ive heard? Are my thots right? to servere? am I way off? All imput is welcome Anyone here in the same position or leaving the s7e for the 10? or just decided on the s7e over the 10 and why?
Thanks guys! :fingers-crossed::good::good:

S7 Edge Pros:
- Bigger screen at the same size (which is a really big deal)
- As far as camera and battery goes, I think the S7 Edge has a clear edge Dual-pixel tech in a smartphone is a very big deal, Canon still saves this technology for their very best cameras.
- Battery - 3600 vs 3000 mAh - enough said.
- Screen efficiency - AMOLED vs TFT (that's why you get great SOT on the S7 Edge, but poor standby times on the SD820)
- Wireless charging if you want to protect your USB port over time.
- Much better technical support if you need it (hopefully not). Much better country presence.
- If the Always-On Display will ever be upgraded to display all notifications (not only missed calls and SMS messages) this will be a huge pro
HTC 10 Pros:
- Always-on fingerprint sensor. The fingerprint sensor needs home button press to work on the S7, which is stupid in 2016. It should be always-on. So I have it disabled, if it would be touch-only I would enable it.
- Speakers (but I don't care for this).

Cst79 said:
S7 Edge Pros:
- Bigger screen at the same size (which is a really big deal)
- As far as camera and battery goes, I think the S7 Edge has a clear edge Dual-pixel tech in a smartphone is a very big deal, Canon still saves this technology for their very best cameras.
- Battery - 3600 vs 3000 mAh - enough said.
- Screen efficiency - AMOLED vs TFT (that's why you get great SOT on the S7 Edge, but poor standby times on the SD820)
- Wireless charging if you want to protect your USB port over time.
- Much better technical support if you need it (hopefully not). Much better country presence.
- If the Always-On Display will ever be upgraded to display all notifications (not only missed calls and SMS messages) this will be a huge pro
HTC 10 Pros:
- Always-on fingerprint sensor. The fingerprint sensor needs home button press to work on the S7, which is stupid in 2016. It should be always-on. So I have it disabled, if it would be touch-only I would enable it.
- Speakers (but I don't care for this).
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thanks for the reply How has ur experience been with touchwiz? Any lag? do you have the sd820? what sot do you usually get? Screen size isnt a huge deal for me .3 inches. Id rather have the battery life instead of AOD. Im not sure if id use wireless charging. The extra charging option would be nice incase but i always worry that the battery degrades faster over time with wireless charging. Having to clock the fingerprint home button is a negative for me. My s4 made an annoying crunch sounds when it was click. Its it a more shallow click now? Same for me I dont care really about speakers so there moot on the 10. Also for me its sense ui and faster updates vs Touchwiz and slow updates.

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thanks for the reply How has ur experience been with touchwiz? Any lag? do you have the sd820? what sot do you usually get? Screen size isnt a huge deal for me .3 inches. Id rather have the battery life instead of AOD. Im not sure if id use wireless charging. The extra charging option would be nice incase but i always worry that the battery degrades faster over time with wireless charging. Having to clock the fingerprint home button is a negative for me. My s4 made an annoying crunch sounds when it was click. Its it a more shallow click now? Same for me I dont care really about speakers so there moot on the 10. Also for me its sense ui and faster updates vs Touchwiz and slow updates.
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I have the Exynos.
I never hated TouchWiz and I think it is ok, no lag whatsoever, but I use Nova Launcher solely because I need double-tap to sleep. But I do have a dark theme set overall and it's great. Theming is a major plus.
The difference in screen size is big, around 20% in surface area. I had a 5.2" LG G2 and it's very noticeable.
The button clicking sound is bad enough and the press is not shallow. Home button is also raised (stupidly, should be sunken) and it could click in your pocket if you don't have a proper case. But I found a workaround, I hold the phone in the front pocket with the upper part down, this almost eliminates the issue.
About the updates, I don't really care, because it works really well as it is (except for the last update which ruined battery life for Exynos and made it similar to SD820). However, for the record, the International version received like 3-4 updates since launch, each brought something new (some good things, some really bad things).

Coming from someone who ended up hating touch wiz, I really dig it this time around. It's so much closer to stock and cleaner. They did good with it this time. I'm also coming from the HTC One M7 and M8, and I have zero interest in the 10.
The camera in the S7 blows away the HTC. I've seen a lot of screenshots of the HTC, and that and the S7 next to each other, and the HTC is actually fairly grainy. Pretty unacceptable, especially the last 4 phones, new one included having a bad camera. The S7 pictures are incredibly clear, the best I have seen on a phone personally. And the low-light is crazy.
The speaker on the S7 is actually very loud and fairly clear.
The screen size is much better on the S7 Edge. Plus the phone is almost the same size, another thing I hated about the HTC phones, they waste sooo much space on the phone.
The Edge places app is pretty convenient. It sets different settings on your phone based on location and/or WiFi/Bluetooth. Works great for me since I always forget to silence my phone when I get to work.
Can't say much about battery life in comparison since I have not read any real, long-term reviews on the HTC. But my S7 Edge gets nearly two full days in between charges on the regular.
Updates... I don't agree with you there regarding HTC. I have NEVER gotten an Android update within their 90 day BS. And that seems to be solely for new Android versions. Any updates to Android seem to either come way later than that, or never. My One M8 updated to Lollipop in March '15, then didn't get another update until December-which was not to fix anything, just Stagefright. And Lollipop did NOT work well at all, and HTC left us behind and wouldn't fix anything that was broken. That's where they really lost me.
Anyway, my $0.02

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Coming from someone who ended up hating touch wiz, I really dig it this time around. It's so much closer to stock and cleaner. They did good with it this time. I'm also coming from the HTC One M7 and M8, and I have zero interest in the 10.
The camera in the S7 blows away the HTC. I've seen a lot of screenshots of the HTC, and that and the S7 next to each other, and the HTC is actually fairly grainy. Pretty unacceptable, especially the last 4 phones, new one included having a bad camera. The S7 pictures are incredibly clear, the best I have seen on a phone personally. And the low-light is crazy.
The speaker on the S7 is actually very loud and fairly clear.
The screen size is much better on the S7 Edge. Plus the phone is almost the same size, another thing I hated about the HTC phones, they waste sooo much space on the phone.
The Edge places app is pretty convenient. It sets different settings on your phone based on location and/or WiFi/Bluetooth. Works great for me since I always forget to silence my phone when I get to work.
Can't say much about battery life in comparison since I have not read any real, long-term reviews on the HTC. But my S7 Edge gets nearly two full days in between charges on the regular.
Updates... I don't agree with you there regarding HTC. I have NEVER gotten an Android update within their 90 day BS. And that seems to be solely for new Android versions. Any updates to Android seem to either come way later than that, or never. My One M8 updated to Lollipop in March '15, then didn't get another update until December-which was not to fix anything, just Stagefright. And Lollipop did NOT work well at all, and HTC left us behind and wouldn't fix anything that was broken. That's where they really lost me.
Anyway, my $0.02
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Hmm thanks for the reply. Means alot coming from a former HTC fan. What other reasons made you not continue with them?

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Hmm thanks for the reply. Means alot coming from a former HTC fan. What other reasons made you not continue with them?
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Well, their lack of doing something new for one. The M7 I think looked the best and was the best size. The 8 just got larger without much added to screen size. The camera was really bad. And this new one seems more of the same to me. All they did was chamfered the back, otherwise is identical to the M8 and M9, then they changed the front to look just like every other Android phone now, except the top and bottom bars are obnoxiously big.
Honestly, the biggest is definitely them leaving us in the dark with updates and letting our phones go on not working right indefinitely. You just can't decide to stop supporting your phones and customers if you want to stay in business. The M8 didn't even need the latest Android, it just needed HTC software fixes to make it work, but those never happened...
Anyway, to each their own. The 10 may be a bada$$ phone. I'm just really loving this Edge.

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Well, their lack of doing something new for one. The M7 I think looked the best and was the best size. The 8 just got larger without much added to screen size. The camera was really bad. And this new one seems more of the same to me. All they did was chamfered the back, otherwise is identical to the M8 and M9, then they changed the front to look just like every other Android phone now, except the top and bottom bars are obnoxiously big.
Honestly, the biggest is definitely them leaving us in the dark with updates and letting our phones go on not working right indefinitely. You just can't decide to stop supporting your phones and customers if you want to stay in business. The M8 didn't even need the latest Android, it just needed HTC software fixes to make it work, but those never happened...
Anyway, to each their own. The 10 may be a bada$$ phone. I'm just really loving this Edge.
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Awesome to hear. Maybe I will cancel and get the edge. Do you have snapdragon 820 or exynos? hows battery life?

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Awesome to hear. Maybe I will cancel and get the edge. Do you have snapdragon 820 or exynos? hows battery life?
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Snapdragon for Verizon. I had to meddle with the settings a bit, but I get nearly two full days every charge. I'm a fairly moderate user though, not really any gaming, just a lot of email (work), fitness stuff, and Facebook/LinkedIn/etc.

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Snapdragon for Verizon. I had to meddle with the settings a bit, but I get nearly two full days every charge. I'm a fairly moderate user though, not really any gaming, just a lot of email (work), fitness stuff, and Facebook/LinkedIn/etc.
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Sounds like me lol reddit email twitter youtube. Do you know how many hours of SOT you get? Ill be getting the tmobile snapdragon one

Honestly, just go to a store and play with each of them. Of course it's always personal preference.

S7E.
Why?
3600mah vs 3000mah
5'5 vs 5'2 display
Look of the s7e to me is nicer.

posting on the S7E thread, i guess you will get more positive for the S7E than the 10?
that being said, S7E for me. best phone i have owned.

Same. ?

If you want ROMs, root, and Xposed get the 10 or Exynos S7 edge.

If you were thinking s7 or m10 I'd probably say m10 but we have the edge and this phone is the best you can get, so I'd say S7 Edge no question.
Sent from my Gold S7 Edge

personal preference really
if size doesn't matter then HTC 10.
Speaker Sound HTC
Software HTC 10 (closer to stock)
Look Design S7E
XDA Development and support HTC 10
Camera Video S7E
Practical daily use HTC 10
Waterproof S7E
Due to HTC being only 5.2 i've gone with S7E bigger screen but i still hate TW.

Help me to decide whether or not to purchase S8 as my next daily driver

Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?

First off, I have the Exynos version. While the S8 is my first Android phone, I have never had any issues whatsoever with Touchwiz. I've maybe once had an app crash, never had random reboots and the stutters are only present in apps such as the Play Store where content is loaded as you browse. Performance is absolutely amazing. I always hestitated going Android because of the issues you are describing, but I absolutely don't regret switching over. The UI is as fluid as it can be, games are smooth, battery is fine (I'm not a heavy user but I can use my phone for 2 days before having to charge). Debloating the S8 would mostly be getting rid of Bixby and carrier apps. Other than that there aren't too many things to remove imo. From what I've read, many people that complain about Touchwiz being unstable are people that mess with Package diablers while not knowing properly what to disable. This causes weird issues, stutter, lag and whatnot. I can't tell you whether it used to be bad of my own experience cause I've never really used a Samsung phone before. Imo the S8 is one of the best devices around, for a reasonable price. If future Samsung phones will continue to be as good, I will upgrade without a second thought.

ImbaWind said:
Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated

I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!

You can get s8 almost same price as op5 .so many deals going on. I'm enjoying my s8 plus avgrat battery after using 4 month it's going strong never had profirmance issue it's smooth as buttery .
Best camera best screen best look. Speaker is loud. I recommend buying s8 plus but if it's big for u s8 is good too

Ok, short answer, we have a OnePlus 3 and the person using it is not gonna buy a future release. The phone is fine and all that, but he isn't impressed or satisfied by it either.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G955F met Tapatalk

Purchased both of them beginning of this month.
OP5 came earlier, so I had some time to use it as a daily phone. Very nice and speedy phone. Everything looked very good, and I thought it would be excellent successor to my previous Oneplus x, which I liked more than a year long (actually still like it).
Then came the Samsung S8. It was not so easy to switch from vanilla Android regarding overall settings , but at the end I liked the Samsung add-ons in Settings, sicne it's really very well organized.
To sum up the reason why I sold OP5 and am now very happy with S8:
S8 is more compact, especially the width of the phone makes it easier to handle one handed.
The Samsung screen is absolutely fantastic, and in direct sunlight waaay better then OP5.
Despite not having two cameras, photos on the S8 are much better, and video recording in low light is incomparable. S8 has OIS!
This phone has a lot more options (features), which I found really useful - like: Bluetooth 5 (nice when you have more then one device connected i.e. external speaker and
BT headset). HDR video support and a lot of options to set the color temperature of the display. Water resistance and wireless charging are also important to me.
There are however some things I needed to change to be satisfied with S8, and luckily it was quite easy. I replaced the phone dialer and contacts applications with stock one from Google.
And - definitely a drawback in S8 compared to OP5 is the screen width, so you will have less information on the screen regarding one line, but more of them are present since the display is much taller.
Regarding pricing, I bought the S8 (new) on ebay for 535EUR and OP5 costs 499EUR. so there is not much difference at this moment.
My 2cents.

Appreciate every comment, thanks!
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I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
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Thanks for your reply! I'd prefer smaller one tho, looks like easier to navigate through the screen.
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
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Thanks for your comment! In my country, if I want to buy the top spec OP5 from official retailer vs S8, it's only about 100 USD difference. And yeah, OP5 community support is better but I'd rather stick to one stable rom than flashing possibly bugged open betas etc. So what's your experience with S8? Do you enjoy using it? How it differs from OP5 in terms of performance after debloating/custom rom etc?

I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.

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I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?

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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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Exynos is always the better one, in every Samsung variant. Also I think Exynos version of S8 was the first to be rooted, Snap had some issues.

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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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I've always heard it's a bit snappier. You also usually have more options for stable root if you want to go that direction.

It's a little bit faster and the bootloader can be opend easy!

I was also on the same boat, bought s8 never looked back.
No lags at all, superb battery life, no heating issues, basically everything i feared that i would see are gone. But i bought this even more for the resale value.
When oneplus decides to take things seriously i will spend my money on them, till then samsung all the way up.
If i were to decide again now however i would seriously consider lg v30.

If you could (for free), would you switch to Galaxy S8+?

I'm switching my Galaxy S6 Edge after long using it and I have 2 main choices: OnePlus 5 (128 GB version) or the Galaxy S8+
The main reasons for me to choose the OnePlus are the faster and cleaner android performance, even though I'm a Galaxy user since the Galaxy 2 I never liked the bloatware and the oxygen OS looks wonderful.
The reasons for taking the S8+ are... Well everywhere I searched and almost any review by people who used them both are saying that it is the best android smartphone there is.
Except the reviews, the camera and amazing display and quality are much better.
After a couple of days, and hundreds of video and written reviews and comparisons I still couldn't choose so I decided to ask here, after you've used OP5 for some time, if someone approached and offered you to switch your OP5 with a S8 for free, would you do it?
Please note that cost is not an issue, here in Israel the S8+ costs about 300 ILS (about $85) more than the OP5 and i can afford it if it's worth it.

Nope. OP5 has far superior battery life, it is faster and dash charging is amazing, more ram and storage and basically Stock Android! The S8 has a better display but I'm OK with 1080p (didn't think I would be coming from 1440p phones) as I don't care about VR. Also, better updates and more frequent to date.

I switched from the S8+, the near stock Android is unbeatable for fluidity and just quality of life. Everything seems more iOS like on stock (or near it) Android. And when I say more iOS like I mean the good things about it, such as the fluidity and overall polish.

I switched from the S8. OS is light-years better. I don't need all the gimmicks and love quick updates. Portrait mode is a plus for taking pics of the family.

I'd trade, try it out for a bit, then sell it for another phone lmao. Maybe a Z2 Play or Mi A1. Who knows?

S8+ is a nice phone but all that Samsung bloat I can't deal with

You probably should ask that question in a more Samsung friendly thread because people here are obviously going to be biased. The OP5 is better if you are into rooting or customizing your phone. But it also has terrible camera software --I could take better low light pictures with my $200 Samsung Galaxy J3. The other thing Samsung phones have going for them is the build quality. I've never owned a Samsung phone that broke before I was ready to replace it. I don't think the OP5 has comparable build quality. But if you like to root your phone and flash custom kernels and ROMs the OP5 may be the best phone on the market.

For the looks yes, I came from a s6 edge+ and my girl has a normal s8, but for overall experience, speed and stuff I would def choose the 5, and if I want looks, I just hold my girls phone for a few sec..

They could pay me money on top and I would never come back to Samsung!

As you may have noticed, most of oneplus's users (including me) see the OP5 as a superior device to the s8.
Most people are not buying this phone because it's cheaper.
Coming from an s4, I was considering the s8 and the oneplus 5. But I am going for the OP5, because I think it's the superior device.

S8 is a good phone but I cannot live with Samsung's software

I haven't used Samsung devices much, but simply because I am able to mod this (custom ROMs, kernels, etc.) with virtually no bloatware and heavy skins (such as TouchWiz) makes this the better option for me.
The S8 does have a nice design though, and from reviews/feedback, seems like it has a better camera as well; but that isn't enough for me to switch over.
The 5 is a great device and I think if you choose it, you won't be disappointed!

Considering the fact that I'm switching from the LAGGY S8+ to the OP5 then I guess the answer to this would be NO

I could go either way except for the fact that I need dual sim cards so I don't have to carry 2 phones. I used an s8 for a couple weeks before switching to the op5. They both have there pros and cons which have all been touched on here. I won't switch but I would be happy with either phone. I think the s8 design is prettier and more impressive but the op5 is easier to use.

I like both.
As stated they both have their pros and cons...
S8+ has got a brilliant camera, sd card support and a heap of hardware features to explore. There is always things to find and surprise. Bixby is a little hard to use unless you have a US accent, I find it doesn't understand Aussie to well but it does learn.
The 4gb of ram is noticeable when you hold the Oneplus up to it though.
Oneplus doesn't have sd card support but does have dual sim support. You are stuck with the internal memory you buy so make sure you account for that. It is quick with 8gb ram and easy to flash/theme and mod .
In the end it depends if you like to be able to change roms and mod easily, though the S8+ isn't too hard after bootloader unlock (you just destroy any chance of Samsung honoring your warranty) or like to play with some cool little features you may or may not get over.
It will ultimately come down to you and how you use your device...
Just to be clear here, asking a dev forum of dedicated phone owners how their phone compares to the "competition" is not really going to get you anywhere. Most will fight tooth and nail defending their vaunted purchase and you will get a very biased opinion...
If you don't believe me, ask how it compares to an Apple... Now I've let loose the cat amongst the very heavily armed pidgeons...

I chose OP5 over an Exynos S8 because Samsung's software is the worst and I've been burned too many times. Price didn't enter the equation.

Same. Money wasn't the deciding factor for me. I had an S6... the ritual of disabling all the bloat got old. Too many gimmicks. Plus lots of RAM makes me happy.
I'd post in the S8 forum and ask why they chose S8, see what their responses are, and see if you value those things.

Home button and phone unlocking is way better on the OP. Infinity display is nice but also very fragile. I went with the OP5 instead of the S8 for these two reasons and never regret. This phone rocks.

Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.

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Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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[Off topic] For how much did you sell your s4? Thinking of selling it but I'm afraid nobody wants it for a good price (~100$)