I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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I'm facing the same decision as you.
I'm used to the fluidity of the iphone...
I'm just afraid the nexus is too big for me, as i like typing with one hand...
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DroidBiteApple said:
I'm facing the same decision as you.
I'm used to the fluidity of the iphone...
I'm just afraid the nexus is too big for me, as i like typing with one hand...
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With just 0.2" more and a just slightly bigger bezel at the nexus 6p, there isn't that much of a size difference between the two.
When it comes to fluidity, sure both serve a great experience as well. I at least haven't faced any fluidity problems at my G935F within the 2 days I own it and I used it pretty much including playing XCOM and FF9 which both take nice load on the device (it even just gets slightly warm at those games, I only barely noticed it even while it was something I actively checked for). But it's most likely not that much different at the nexus 6p.
The 6p is when it comes to updates more future proof, because it will get them sooner and as it is atm a year longer than the galaxy family (nexus update policy is about 3 years, samsung is known for supporting devices for 2 years, on the other hand, by being mostly open source nexus devices can have a much longer update lifetime through the community and custom roms, galaxy devices as well, but escpecially at exynos devices it is much harder). On the other hand does the s7 ship with vulkan api support already, what is more or less the next big thing in gaming.
When it comes to bare bones benchmark performance, the exynos has the upper hand pretty easily (about 50% better overall performance at antutu).
Had to make the same decision as my old phone died recently. I had the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 5. Now I ended up with the S7 edge. I think it is fair to say that the phone aim for a different type of consumer.
As I was at the university I wanted to have a cheaper phone, with a lot of customization. Also something I could "work" with, e.g. flash and modify.
Now I wanted to have something more "solid". I am not interested in flashing anymore, but something that is and looks like some value. With good camera and good performance (I did not notice the occasional lag nor would a frame lost while scrolling bother me that much).
Thus, I ended up buying the S7.
After having the 6P since it came out, I can say it's really not that great - I'm getting my S7 Edge tomorrow and look forward to using a much smaller phone, with a much better display and camera.
If you're using it for 3 years, then I'd go nexus. I'd get very sick of slow updates and TouchWiz in 3 years. The decision came down to this for me: Updates, development, and front facing speakers or nicer design, best specs available, and SD card.
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With just 0.2" more and a just slightly bigger bezel at the nexus 6p, there isn't that much of a size difference between the two.
When it comes to fluidity, sure both serve a great experience as well. I at least haven't faced any fluidity problems at my G935F within the 2 days I own it and I used it pretty much including playing XCOM and FF9 which both take nice load on the device (it even just gets slightly warm at those games, I only barely noticed it even while it was something I actively checked for). But it's most likely not that much different at the nexus 6p.
The 6p is when it comes to updates more future proof, because it will get them sooner and as it is atm a year longer than the galaxy family (nexus update policy is about 3 years, samsung is known for supporting devices for 2 years, on the other hand, by being mostly open source nexus devices can have a much longer update lifetime through the community and custom roms, galaxy devices as well, but escpecially at exynos devices it is much harder). On the other hand does the s7 ship with vulkan api support already, what is more or less the next big thing in gaming.
When it comes to bare bones benchmark performance, the exynos has the upper hand pretty easily (about 50% better overall performance at antutu).
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I feel like there is a huge size difference between the 6p and s7 edge. 6p feels massive now when I hold it whereas the s7 edge is much better suited for one-hand use.
Overall you can't really go wrong with either. The nexus does feel a bit more fluid when navigating / using apps but it's barely noticeable, and it will receive timely updates. The samsung has the better display, camera, and battery. I think the only thing I really miss from the nexus is the fingerprint reader on the back.
I had the Nexus 6p for two weeks before the metal case buckled near the volume rocker, google it, it's a common problem. I returned it in favor of the S7E.
On the Nexus I loved the fingerprint reader location, front facing speakers and stock Android but I wasn't banking on the hardware lasting 2yrs given that it started to fail after two weeks.
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I feel like there is a huge size difference between the 6p and s7 edge. 6p feels massive now when I hold it whereas the s7 edge is much better suited for one-hand use.
Overall you can't really go wrong with either. The nexus does feel a bit more fluid when navigating / using apps but it's barely noticeable, and it will receive timely updates. The samsung has the better display, camera, and battery. I think the only thing I really miss from the nexus is the fingerprint reader on the back.
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Sorry for OT, but what is as much better at locating it on the back. I really like it at the front, it's pretty natural to use the thumb to unlock the device while in hand. Maybe slightly less as while it was on the back with the index finger, but I get the ability to also unlock it while the device is lying on the table, what is a big plus for my opinion...
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After having the 6P since it came out, I can say it's really not that great - I'm getting my S7 Edge tomorrow and look forward to using a much smaller phone, with a much better display and camera.
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This exactly. It's a great device, hardware wise. However that little size difference DOES make a difference. It's just a hair too long and wide to be comfortable sitting with in in jeans of any sort...and the stock android experience is nice, but a bit overhyped, at least for me. I also found it to be a rather plain, and boring device. Took GREAT photos and i loved the placement of the fingerprint sensor, but ultimately I let it go to get the S7 Edge.
One thing to consider, if you're not going to root it, go with the S7E. I had the Nexus 6P and I can't root due my work app detecting it (even with xposed) and it's just so vanilla that I got pretty bored with it. Even iOS seems to have more options than stock Android. The S7E has a ton of features baked in that are fun to play with.
If you can root though and install ROM's like PA, CM, etc... then the Nexus 6P might be the best way to go.
I sold my 6p the same day I got my s7 edge. To me they are both just as fast. After owning several Samsung and a couple nexus phone I can't believe how fluid and smooth the s7 edge is. As others have stated the 6p did feel a little bigger and harder to manage than the s7 edge. Both are great phones. I don't regret my decision at all.
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If you use your phones for 2-3 years, the S7 might be slightly more future proof because of the great processor be it SD or Exynos, plus 4gb of RAM that should account for at least 2 years of usage imo, and you get the SD card storage so you would probably need to get at least the 64GB 6P in order for it to be slightly future proof.
I've owned the 6P and the 5X so I'll pipe in on this as well. The 6P is a GREAT device when it comes to updates and having the backing of the dev community. If you don't like something about the user experience, you can bet there is something out there that will allow you to modify whatever it is you're griping over. I never had a problem with the hardware and the camera was surprisingly GOOD!
It is, however, a pretty girthy device. When comparing it to the S7 Edge, it's really not even a comparison. The 6P footprint is larger and much more difficult to use one handed. I found myself having to use to do some thumb gymnastics to reach the corners and I'd like to think I have some decent sized hands.
At the end of the day, it boils down to your preference. If you can stomach TW, then get the Galaxy. If you're #TeamStock all the way then the Nexus is for you.
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Sorry for OT, but what is as much better at locating it on the back. I really like it at the front, it's pretty natural to use the thumb to unlock the device while in hand. Maybe slightly less as while it was on the back with the index finger, but I get the ability to also unlock it while the device is lying on the table, what is a big plus for my opinion...
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It just felt a lot more natural in the back and the sensor is more accurate. Not to take anything from the gs7 edge fingerprint sensor which is pretty good but definitely not as good as the nexus.
Erhh.. Still cant decide.
Nexus pros are:
- faster updates
- front facing speakers
- cheaper
Galaxy pros are:
- beautiful
- somewhat smaller and easier to handle one handed
- larger battery
- water resistant
- optical image stabilization
I live in an area where we get the Exynos model...
I hope it will be as good as the snapdragon.
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I've owned both. S7e is a No-Brainer unless you want root.
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I decided to buy the nexus in the end.
Here's why: I will use it for at least 3 years, so the constant updates are a big plus. Also, even if it has lower specs then the s7, the software is much more optimized. No matter how fluid and smooth touchwiz has become, no Samsung in this world runs better then stock android on the latest nexus flagship.
And even if it has slightly lower specs then the s7, they are still more then enough for what I'm planning to use it for: Internet browsing, YouTube, Facebook, clash of clans and taking pictures (I read that the camera is great).
The reason I'll be using it this much is that the store I buy it from, here in Romania, offers the possibility to get 1 or 2 more years of warranty, aside from the 2 years the device already comes with. And if do I get extra warranty, it becomes premium warranty. This means: if my device breaks and needs to be sent for repair, they send a courier to my door to pick the product for me, free of charge and free shipping. And if they don't fix the device within 5 working days, I can get a full refund of the initial price. That's right, after let's say 3 years, when this phone will be worth around 200-300$ in used condition, I can get the full 570$ I initially payed, if they can't fix the phone.
I already did that with my nexus 10 after a year, then got enough money to get the note 3. My note still has 2 more years and a few months of warranty, in which time I'm 100% positive that it will eventually break.
The note goes to my girlfriend and I decided that I want a new phone, a premium one that I'll be using for a long time while I have the 4 years warranty.
If you can't afford an Edge, go with a 6P.
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What's everyone's personal opinion on the device after having it for a couple of days? I'm picking one up regardless but I was just curious about the initial reviews and not just from all the hate threads about removable battery and expendable storage.
Why not read the many reviews now available online ? Reviewers from tech sites are no different to asking people here - just subjective opinions from strangers, and as you are intending to purchased one regardless ...
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Why not read the many reviews now available online ? Reviewers from tech sites are no different to asking people here - just subjective opinions from strangers, and as you are intending to purchased one regardless ...
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Because a message board allows people to interact rather than just read. It's a two way conversation rather than just one way.
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It's de definitely snappier when changing screens or apps. Don't know how much that is 5.1.1 or the newer hardware.
We have both the note 5 and the s6 edge plus in our house, and both of us agree the edge plus in s a nicer phone. The Note 5 just barley feels like an upgrade to the Note 4. We use cases so the glass back is pointless. Unless you have to have the stylus, go with the S6 Edge Plus, in my opinion.
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It's de definitely snappier when changing screens or apps. Don't know how much that is 5.1.1 or the newer hardware.
We have both the note 5 and the s6 edge plus in our house, and both of us agree the edge plus in s a nicer phone. The Note 5 just barley feels like an upgrade to the Note 4. We use cases so the glass back is pointless. Unless you have to have the stylus, go with the S6 Edge Plus, in my opinion.
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I honestly haven't put much thought into the Edge+ because I do use my stylist a couple times a day. I also heard the screen is a gimmick and some reviewers say it gets old after a while, might have to check one out in the stores.
I love the battery compared to the note 4. Standby time is amazing even though i have lots of installed apps and autosync on.
I'm enjoying mine quite a bit. It's my first Note, and really my first Samsung. I technically had the S6 edge for 2 weeks, but I returned it so I could get the Note 5, and because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand.
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Absolutely wonderful.
The software is amazing the most sophisticated piece of "equipment" I've very had. The keyboard fits my hands now. The battery is so amazing. I am blown away.
The camera is what I've always wanted in a phone now I have something to hopefully learn with. I am not missing anything. I actually believe I will be able to quit fiddling with things and learn with this this thing.
Note 5 here
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It's de definitely snappier when changing screens or apps. Don't know how much that is 5.1.1 or the newer hardware.
We have both the note 5 and the s6 edge plus in our house, and both of us agree the edge plus in s a nicer phone. The Note 5 just barley feels like an upgrade to the Note 4. We use cases so the glass back is pointless. Unless you have to have the stylus, go with the S6 Edge Plus, in my opinion.
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Aren't there any cases with curved backs that mimic the note5's design?
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Aren't there any cases with curved backs that mimic the note5's design?
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I have the Ringke Slim Crystal Clear and it follows the phone's curves.
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In partial to the note since I have owned all 5! It is truly a great phone.. Awesome build, super fast, great camera, fingerprint sensor is very fast, perfect screen, and as always in an spen guy so that's awesome too.
Battery life is a good as the 4 for me and I'm a super power user.
Excellent phone imo
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This is my first Note, but certainly not my first large Android phone. I've had dozens of Android phones going all the way back to the OG T-Mobile G1. My most recent phone was the OnePlus One which I carried for a year and was very happy with.
As for the Note... I LOVE it! The screen is truly breathtaking, even coming from the OnePlus One which had a great screen. The camera is seriously what I've been waiting for since 2008... THIS is how a phone camera should be. The fingerprint reader is pretty cool and it's the first time I've ever used a security lockscreen on a phone and been happy with it. Battery life has been on par/maybe slightly better than the OnePlus One which had 100mah more capacity.
One thing that caught me totally off guard is how many software features this phone has that I've never seen in any other Android. My last Samsung was a S3, so TouchWiz has changed a lot since those days.
With all that said, this is the first Android phone I've had in AGES with a locked bootloader and no modding community. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I didn't realize this was the case until after my order had been placed. There are some things from custom roms that I immediately miss and wish I could get back like: double tap to wake, silent volume adjustment, linked ringtone and notification volumes(I did fix this with Tasker), and some others.
Another thing I'm bummed about... the clear cover over the camera flash and pulse sensor is made of crappy plastic and mine has scratches all over it already just from wiping it off with my Tshirt. Really bummed about this. I usually keep my phones looking brand new for at least 8-10 months and this one is scratched in 3 days.
Although there's been a lot of comparison criticisms between the Note 4 and Note 5, the Note 5 exceeds the note 4. One of the complaints is the 3000mah battery. While the Note 4 does have more (3250mah), the Note 5 actually outlasts the Note 4. This is both measured AND real-time use. So, while in some cases "size matters", efficiency is what comes into play with the Note 5. I also just read that the Note 5 has the best display of ALL smartphones currently on the market. I think most negative criticisms of the Note 5 is spec based and not real-time use based. WhIle some may think Samsung focused more on hardware, they did come up with a more efficient and better functioning device with the Note 5.
I had the note 3 back then, jumped on the Apple boat, and a few more devices including the oppo find 7a. But after much thinking, I was aiming for the edge plus, but considering I like to jot down stuff instead of typing, I went ahead and chose the note 5. Besides that, the camera allows you to almost control all settings manually which is a big plus for us photographers. Also, you still get the awesome tricks with the gestures and such. The battery life to me seems average, even though it has the qhd display, it holds its ground against similar screen phones.
Charging is very quickly now compared to my other phones. The body is quite a new style, and much more pro looking.
Overall great phone, but it comes down to personal choice if you want to choose this or the edge plus. Good luck!
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I sent mine back. I've had a lot of phones, and I've never sent one back. The main reasons I bought it were, in order of importance: 1) Fingerprint reader 2) Better
camera 3) Better display.
The fingerprint reader didn't work great for me. I found it just about as annoying as having to enter a pin or gesture unlock.
I have an LG G3, so I'm used to big phones, but this thing feels so heavy, and is just big enough that it doesn't fit in places where my G3 does.
The display and camera are nice, but not incredibly better (I know lots of people complain about the G3 display, but I think it's fine if you turn the brightness up).
I like the fact that the people who own one, are really liking their device. The Note 4 got a good amount of negative feedback when it was first announced but nothing like the 5. Like most cases, it's easy to point out flaws before even testing the device. On the way now to Verizon to pick mine up.
64g Black is what I'm going for. What did everyone else get?
I had the S6 edge before this phone and honestly its killing the Note 5 for me. The screen on the S6 seems more vibrant and clear than on the Note5. Also somehow the camera (which im told is the same on both phones) seems to take better low light pics with the galaxy vs the note. The differences are small and its still a great phone but i may end up back with the S6... Im gonna give it a few more days and see how i feel
Was told last Friday not to pre-order because I wouldn't receive my device until past 8/24 and was guaranteed that the Verizon stores around me would have 64g Friday morning. Turns out none around me have them... Thanks Verizon!
Been enjoying the phone a lot recently after switching from my iPhone 6 Plus and being on Apple phones ever since the iPhone 4. The only issue I have is apparently my battery life is bad because I used to get through a full day with my iPhone and would have roughly 30% left when I went to sleep. I've been finding out recently that I have to charge the Note 5 during the day in order to last as long. The system predicts my battery will be dead by 9 PM tonight which I thought was kinda short.. I'm not a super heavy user so I don't know what's causing it to die quicker than normal, nothing in power usage hints at what it is either..
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I have an LG G3, so I'm used to big phones, but this thing feels so heavy, and is just big enough that it doesn't fit in places where my G3 does.
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Note5
153.2 x 76.1 x 7.6 mm
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146.3 x 74.6 x 8.9 mm
a difference of (+)7.1 x (+)1.5 x (-)1.3 mm from the G3. The width should feel essentially the same, 1.5mm difference is going to be close to imperceptible. 7mm extra height is enough for you to notice, but not enough to really make a difference for most people. and it's thinner so it should fit in pockets or slim places easier.
The only major difference is weight, 149g vs 171g.
I'm not sure why you seem to think the note5 is bigger because it is, but by 7.1mm at the most compared to the G3, I dont know if I believe you when you say it doesn't fit in the same places as the G3, a difference of 7mm shouldnt be enough to do that.
I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
I'd sell it for the 6p. The picture quality from the camera should be very close to the S6 and even though the exynos is the better chipset, touchwizz is still stuttery (as u claim) whereas the S810 Nexus 6P has been said to be extremely smooth/fluid.
Hi there,
When S6 released, I watched Galaxy Unpack live and I was very very excited. I was going to buy S6 but one thing hold me off. THE CLOSED SOURCE EXYNOS. And of course, locked bootloader.
According to DxOMark, Camera differences between S6 and Nexus 6P are small.
Camera Review For Nexus 6P
Camera Review For Galaxy S6
According to this, you should never miss your shots with S6 while you hold 6P's camera.
And what's the purpose of "beastly Exynos" when it lags in UI?
Comparing 6P to S6 and One Plus Two, for me 6P is winner for following reasons:
1. More durable body.
2. Stereo front facing speakers.
3. More active aftermarket development. Means a lot of cool stuff for 6P(Roms, kernels, tweaks, etc)
4. Seems like 6P has better battery than One Plus Two and S6 (Wait for GSM Arena's battery test. Those are the most accurate battery tests.)
5. Better screen that One Plus Two, however it comes toe to toe with S6. The only ones who complain about screen of 6P are PhoneArena guys, seems like they forgot to turn off adaptive brightness or turn on sRGB mode.
6. More stable and lagfree OS.
7. Fastest updates.
8. Using Android the way it meant to be used.
I would definitely recommend the 6p. I own an S6, and I can fully relate to the Touchwiz issues. All Nexus devices are made to give the user the smoothest, fastest experience possible. Uninhibited by 3rd party layers and skins that can slow everything down. The hardware and software are both high-end enough on the 6p to meet or beat the S6, so you wouldn't be sacrificing anything by switching. Also, you can't beat being first in line to receive security and other updates!
Read an article testing cell reception s6 and 2 other phones, no 6p but another huwei phone - s6 was horrible.
A couple have mentioned reception on the 6p is fantastic - which is supposedly a strong point for huwei (or however you spell it!) devices.
That would be enough for me to sell.
I've done just this, sold my S6 to buy a nexus. The goods on the S6 were very good - design, size, screen, camera. The bads similarly were very bad - software, ram management, battery.
Bloated horrible mess. So I have got the 6p now to try out. The screen is not as good as the s6, the camera is close but not equal to the s6 but the software experience on the 6p wipes the floor with the s6. I'd not hesitate to sell the S6 to get either of the new nexus phones.
This is my plan to sell S6 as soon as I go the 6P. S6 has been great so far, it took amazing photos. However, I really can't stand for the battery life. I basically has to put on battery save mode everyday. The touch wiz has been improved a lot, but it somehow still managed to slow the phone down after a while.
I owned the S6 and sold it for a Nexus 6P, im not going to ***** about the S6 because it was a great little phone. I just prefer a bigger handset and a better modding scene
Sold my s6 in July due to the crappy battery life, small screen and touch wiz.. It was a nice phone though
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In process of selling my S6. The battery life and junk AT&T and Samsung have on it is abysmal and battery is even worse. I shouldn't have to spend hours disabling and turning off features to get the phone battery to last more than a few hours. I actually went back to my Nexus 6 and the Galaxy S6 has been sitting in the drawer
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I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
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The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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What is bad about Knox?
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What is bad about Knox?
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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0 benefits of having it right?
clorbag said:
The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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Odd that you would say this and yet I'm reading it on my unlocked, rooted, debloated, knox removed S6 with a custom rom derived from the development that doesn't exist using that crap exynos chip you mentioned that rides at or near the top of the leaderboard in nearly every measurable performance category. lol
Not that the concept in general doesn't have merit as the stock rom does hitch up here and there and thats a shame on such excellent hardware but there is no reason to kick objectivity and factual information to the curb.
To the thread in general I have the S6 and I'm getting this phone but I'll be moving on come spring. I love the Nexus line but I have never made friends with phablet sizing and I'll tire of this phones size after a short while just like I did with all the other phablets I've owned. It is rather irritating to me that my preferred size is the 5 to 5.2 range and this seems to be more and more relegated to the mid range but I'm hopeful that come spring one of the 820 offerings will come with flagship hardware in the 5ish inch range. Of course come next fall I'll jump on the N5/6.1P or whatever it will be called because I'll miss the Nexus line and its unrivaled support. I've owned all but the second, forget what that one was called?
One other thing that jumps out at me about the P is the lack of wireless charging. I'm completely converted over to it for ordinary day to day use and have pads around the house and holders in the cars and on my boat. I do like to have quick charge by whatever name for those moments where you need to pump some quick batt so one is not a replacement for the other. Not a deal breaker but it rides over on the con side for me.
Most of the other stuff mentioned here seems like advantage P or a push to me but the camera is still a question in my mind. It has been reviewed well but none of the reviews I've seen so far have mentioned much about its ability to take a "snap" shot. You know, the one where the moment is there and you take the shot or miss it because its gone forever. No set up, no time to make adjustments. The S6 is as good as I've experienced at that kind of shot. I can usually expect such a picture to be in focus and have reasonably good exposure and so on. Not art, not perfect, but pretty darn good. The P may be just as good or better so I'm not calling it out just saying I haven't seen any reviewers or users here talking about this aspect of the cameras performance.
Did I mention I hate that the flagship hardware is more and more becoming available only in the phablet sizing?
SORRY to keep bringing this up, I know I know it's been "discussed" before, but just straight up answers now
So I've been reading you guys and seen there's been issues with the Nexus, like the screen, the back lower part, etc. I got the money to buy either of these, so I need your help plz
Which do you prefer, and WHY?
I've had every note series except the 5. Besides aesthetics, it wasn't a crazy enough leap to justify the price. I was a huge samsung fanboy for so long. However, I just received my nexus 6p a few days ago and I can't believe it. No matter what i did to my note, which rom i was on, how much i overclocked it, my phone never felt this good. Everything about the nexus is just wonderful. Looking back, I wish i didn't wait so long to make the switch.
I've had the note 2 and note 3. I switched to LG phones after the note 3. I jumped back on he Samsung wagon with the S6. My S6 is rooted and my carrier is Verizon. I'm actually tired of rooting a phone to get it some where near up to par. I'm waiting on the 6p. I want a phone that just works and runs stock Android. I want to receive updates when they are released and not when my carrier or manufacturer decides to release it. This is one of the things I admire about Apple iPhone. No carrier stops them from releasing an update. The Nexus 6p is going to give me that with a phone that has a good camera.
If given a choice I would pick Nexus over any other Android device.
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I have both. It really depends on what you're wanting. Fast updates, seemingly unlimited dev support, incredibly smooth, amazing standby time - 6P. Slightly better camera, awesome spen features (only thing I truly miss), true QC with a lot more compatible chargers, wireless charging, Samsung pay, phone is still fast but the ram management drives me nuts, even tho the note 5 handles this the best of the galaxy line. And tw is still tw...
If I had to pick one, I'd go 6P. The limitless support and how much better stock Android is over skinned is the deciding factor for me. I also love the idea of USB c, the larger battery, and the camera is close enough that I don't miss the galaxy series.
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I owned the Note 5 for almost 2 months and I've been using the Nexus 6P since Wednesday and this is my opinion. I prefer the 6P over the Note 5. The software is a lot more consistent and feels a lot snappier on the 6P. There's absolutely no lag or stutters. When I first got the Note 5 it ran like a dream but over time I def noticed lag and stutters. I believe that prob because of carriers tweaking software. The Ram management is wayyyy better on the 6P. I notice that if I open too many apps on the Note 5 they will have to reload when you try to open them again from the multitasking carousel and with the 6P everything is right were you left it. The fingerprint scanner works way faster on the 6p. As far as battery life, those battery life test that say the Note 5 has better battery life is BS and doesn't factor in real world usage. Pretty much what they do is leave the phone on and run some script that maxes out the CPU until the batter dies. My Note 5's battery life sucked. My phone would be at 100% before bed and when I wake up my phone loses 10-15%. With The 6P, I'll lose maybe 1 or 2% depending on if I'm getting notification. To me the screen quality is about the same and I'm overall happier with the 6P. One thing I will say is the Note 5 def feel more sturdy and solid in the hand and with the 6P, I feel like I'm going to drop it or break it because it's so light. So I prefer the 6P over the Note 5. Just sold my Note 5 on swappa.
Nexus 6p. Because physical home buttons, bottom fingerprint sensors, reversed back/menu buttons, having touchwiz apps shoved down my throat, terrible menu systems, lack of updates, lack of good roms, LACK OF CHOICE and having the same phone as everyone else pretty much sucks.
I'd rather have a device that was *slightly* slower, with a *slightly* worse camera with which I could completely make my own than to pretend it was all about hardware and specs. When you use the phone, you don't interface with the spec sheet. You interface with the OS and apps, and the freedom to chose in that regard is too restrictive on Samsung devices.
Just switched from a Note 4 - thinking it was a good move
Hey guys, i am a little stuck here, i want to buy a new phone, i am having trouble deciding that should i get the nexus 6P or wait a little for the s7 edge?
Which one is better?
Better in what way? Because you're not seriously asking if a just released device is technically better than an older device, right?
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Samarth_17 said:
Hey guys, i am a little stuck here, i want to buy a new phone, i am having trouble deciding that should i get the nexus 6P or wait a little for the s7 edge?
Which one is better?
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If you have no issues with touchwiz and have the patience to wait for updates , the s7 edge hands down.
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Better in what way? Because you're not seriously asking if a just released device is technically better than an older device, right?
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6P is an older device but it has great support on xda, plus samsung phones tend to get slow , my friend has a s6 and it is already getting laggy, but the s7's specs seem to impress me. Not sure about the rom development department tho because s6 doesnt have a great support.
Only way I'll end up with a Sammy again is if it's a Nexus. Son has s6 edge, still waiting for MM, last security update was in Nov... Never again.
I mentioned in another thread that I got to play with the S7 this week and it's blazingly fast and smooth, even more so than the 6P. The SD 820 seems like a real powerhouse and Touchwiz seems quite well optimised. In saying that, it's still Touchwiz and it's still totally locked down and you won't get updates for an age.
The S7 will have more developer support because it uses the snapdragon 820 and not just exynos like the s6.
Even than, I prefer the 6P.
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6P is an older device but it has great support on xda, plus samsung phones tend to get slow , my friend has a s6 and it is already getting laggy, but the s7's specs seem to impress me. Not sure about the rom development department tho because s6 doesnt have a great support.
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The S6 has an Exynos processor - probably one of the major reasons why Development has been lagging behind other phones - the S7 will have Snapdragon processors - at least here in the US - which should result in more development, but only time will tell for sure.
I have the Nexus 6p and will be getting the S7 - I have seen camera comparisons and I think the S7 camera has some advantages over the Nexus 6p - and while some don't like Touchwiz, Samsung knows how to make some incredible phones - it all comes down to taste. If you are an AOSP purist, stick with the Nexus - if you are looking for slightly better performance and a slightly better camera with external storage slot (up to 200GB) and don't mind waiting for Android Updates (they will be much slower than on the Nexus) go with the S7.
PLUS if you are interested in playing with the VR headset they are offering free VR headsets with Preordered S7's and S7 Edges.) that is a pretty cool bonus - and one of the things that got me so interested in the S7 edge.
Without getting into pricing, the S7 Edge hands down. I also played with it yesterday and it's an incredibly built phone that's fast and has amazing features.
Almost every key factor on it is better than the 6P...removable storage, better screen, better camera, better soc, better gpu, better gaming with Vulkan, more ram (and faster ram), faster internal storage, water cooled, wireless charging built in, water resistant, better build quality, larger battery, better features, etc.
If you can afford it (since it's considerably more expensive than the 6P), then I would pick it up. The Snapdragon 820 is a very nice upgrade to the 810 and it has the build and internals to be future proof.
I don't care about the "specs" of the S7. Stock Android always wins. I'll be waiting for the new Nexus.
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Without getting into pricing, the S7 Edge hands down. I also played with it yesterday and it's an incredibly built phone that's fast and has amazing features.
Almost every key factor on it is better than the 6P...removable storage, better screen, better camera, better soc, better gpu, better gaming with Vulkan, more ram (and faster ram), faster internal storage, water cooled, wireless charging built in, water resistant, better build quality, larger battery, better features, etc.
If you can afford it (since it's considerably more expensive than the 6P), then I would pick it up. The Snapdragon 820 is a very nice upgrade to the 810 and it has the build and internals to be future proof.
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I myself have just returned the 6P and I am planning on picking up an S7. I just got tired of all the problems with my 6P, as unfortunately I always got lemon units. the first one was bent out of the box, second one bent by the volume rocker, and third one screen was very pink, and I mean very pink lol. I still love the 6P for the short time I had it, and wish all who have the device best of luck!
I've been using Samsung galaxy phones since the 1st gen galaxy. No matter how much processing power and ram they put in their devices, the TouchWiz framework always slows them down over time. They performed best when using an aosp rom but that meant sacrificing battery life and camera quality.
The 6P has the best balance all around for the cost and it will be supported longer from Google and the Nexus community.
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Almost every key factor on it is better than the 6P...removable storage, better screen, better camera, better soc, better gpu, better gaming with Vulkan, more ram (and faster ram), faster internal storage, water cooled, wireless charging built in, water resistant, better build quality, larger battery, better features, etc.
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What's all this about water cooling?
My contract is up for renewal and I like the 6p but the hardware issues have been painful (even more so since it's second hand with no receipt I can't RMA). Touchwiz is annoying but not as bad as it used to be and is pretty good on the Note 5 when I used it and hardware will always been excellent and only falls behind on speakers if stereo is a must.
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What's all this about water cooling?
My contract is up for renewal and I like the 6p but the hardware issues have been painful (even more so since it's second hand with no receipt I can't RMA). Touchwiz is annoying but not as bad as it used to be and is pretty good on the Note 5 when I used it and hardware will always been excellent and only falls behind on speakers if stereo is a must.
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While I don't know every technical detail about it, in a nutshell the S7 and S7 Edge are gonna have a small pipe with water inside to cool things down under heavy load. Not much unlike a water cooling system for a PC. I think it's awesome personally, and a welcome addition to mobile tech.
Regarding Touchwiz, it's not nearly as bad as the past. Samsung hardware is stellar and their software is quickly catching up.
If you prefer stock Android, then the 6P is a decent choice. Along with Moto phones. If not, the S7 and S7 Edge are super strong candidates.
Thanks guys!!! I am going for the 6P as i am used to stock android since i have a nexus 5. 6P is an all rounder i think!
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While I don't know every technical detail about it, in a nutshell the S7 and S7 Edge are gonna have a small pipe with water inside to cool things down under heavy load. Not much unlike a water cooling system for a PC. I think it's awesome personally, and a welcome addition to mobile tech.
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Ah yes, the copper cooling pipe inside is it? Now that's the closest thing to innovation we've had for a while with mobiles stagnating a bit.
Great decision with the 6p Samarth, awesome phone, just hope you get one of the issue free screens.
Samarth_17 said:
Hey guys, i am a little stuck here, i want to buy a new phone, i am having trouble deciding that should i get the nexus 6P or wait a little for the s7 edge?
Which one is better?
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can't answer this question.
It's like saying what's better my BMW or the new Mercedes ??
I'll always take the Nexus. Those geniuses in the Samsung marketing dept won't get me. Some of the features are great on the S7, but as far as specs go, I'm not going to be doing anything that will weigh down the processor. Also, if you're not comparing screens side-by-side 24/7, you'll never be disappointed with the 6P. Save your money and go with the Nexus. Can't beat the price for a high-end smartphone. Software (ROMs) can add any feature the phone lacks.
A few things will keep me with the Nexus 6P over the S7. First is the ability to be on Project Fi. For someone who doesn't use much mobile data, it is going to save me about $30/mo over my previous T-Mobile plan. The second is that I really like the 5.7 inch screen size of the 6P. Neither the S7 or S7 Edge have as large a screen. The last thing is that, as far as I've heard, the S7 won't be available with more than 32GB of internal storage and also won't allow for the microSD card to be "adopted" into the internal storage pool and thus it can't be used for apps. I have the 128GB 6P and so don't have to deal with the inconsistent ways that the microSD cards are being handled by various vendors or their flavors of Android. For me, 128GB of internal storage was the point where I could justify not having external storage, given the size of my music collection, which I want to have physically on my device.
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Thanks guys!!! I am going for the 6P as i am used to stock android since i have a nexus 5. 6P is an all rounder i think!
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Congratz...wise choice! Enjoy the Nexus 6p badboy on XDA!
I love my 6P.... Love the updates and all the custom ROMs, love the front facing speakers too.....But have wanted an "Edge" ever since they were first released.
Today, while at work, someone seen my 6P and asked me a few questions and then said he had a 1 month old 32gb S7 edge he'd trade me straight across for my 6P??? I told him I'd have to think it over and let him know later..... So, what's everyone think?
Reasons I'd keep the 6P
* Custom ROMs galore!! One of the best supported phones are NEXUS phones
* Future proof for updates for several years
* Front facing speakers
>>> I'm a HUGE music lover and check out music equipment (I'm a guitar player) on YouTube quite often
>>> On those days when you just want to lay in bed, the front speakers are great for watching NetFlix without having to cup your hand around the bottom of the phone just to hear it
* I already gave away most of my micro-USB cables and replaced them with USB-C cables - EVERYWHERE
Reasons I'd switch (are the same reasons I love it):
* Custom ROMs -
>>> I get too tied up in the whole custom ROM thing and sometimes spend several hours a day flashing custom ROMs.
>>> I am checking XDA 2-6 times per hour for updates or new ROMs, to the point it affects my work some days (when new ROMs come out while I'm at work). I've tried to control it and block XDA, but I am really addicted to it and have thought about going back to a flip phone sometimes just to free up several hours a day and keep me working when I'm supposed to be.
* Front facing speakers -
>>> Lets face it, the speakers aren't that great (compared to the HTC stereo speakers). Sitting on my desk, 3 feet away I really can't hear any stereo separation and might as well have a single speaker
>>> They really don't sound as good as many single speaker phones
* I wouldn't mind having a smaller, lighter phone....I've got tendinitis from years of playing guitar and the heavy phone sometimes hurts to use for long periods... But after a case it'll be about the same.
Take it. If you like it, ok, if not, you can sell it for more than a brand new 64gb 6p. You can come home for free.
personally I would keep my 6p. The Edge is kind of gimmicky. the 6p is pure Android it's what I love about it. I love the larger screen, it's kinda hard to go back to a smaller screen after the 6p. can't stand the Samsung bloatware and the delay updates. I love everything about the 6p the only thing I don't like is the button positioning. I keep accidentally hitting the volume button.
Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
Seriously, it's your decision, why even spam the forum with your indecision? There are enough comparisons between the two phones, just do a bit of googling
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Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
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She said an iPhone
I just traded my S7 for the 6P. Can't beat the buttery smoothness and customizations. Believe me, S7 is still laggy even with the reviews praising the touch wiz. I took a downgrade in the camera department, S7 really does have an awesome camera. But the itch to have pure Android and butter smoothness wins hands down.
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Toss a coin: Head's it's a Nexus6p or Tails it's a Nexus6p!
It's a win-win...
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I just traded my S7 for the 6P. Can't beat the buttery smoothness and customizations. Believe me, S7 is still laggy even with the reviews praising the touch wiz. I took a downgrade in the camera department, S7 really does have an awesome camera. But the itch to have pure Android and butter smoothness wins hands down.
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Yeah, after reading so many reviews... The S7 does seem like the clear winner, but I'm not sure I can live with the crappy single speaker?? And most say the speed/smoothness is better on the 6P, but it's just apples vs oranges on most of it.
I really wouldn't use Touchwiz, I'd use Nova launcher, but I guess I'd sill have the Touchwiz menu's and pull-down.
I know some say "get the S7 and sell it", but I only have one phone and can't really do that.. So I'd be stuck with it unless I got another local deal.
I had an s7 edge for about 2 weeks before I got the 6p. The edge was nice, however I prefer the 6p. Stock android is better than touchwiz. Has the edge been rooted yet? It had not been when I had it. I did not like not being able to block ads in chrome. I returned mine to AT&T and lost out on getting a free TV with it. I also lost out on a $150 bill credit because I returned it. I don't regret it. Keep the 6p!
You're gonna miss the speakers and the stock Android experience.
The edge is dumb. Its gimicky and has almost no useful use. I had the Galaxy S6 edge.
And most of all the edge is hard as FU*K to hold.
I had a choice of buying either the S7 Edge or Nexus 6P just a couple of weeks ago, one of the main reasons for getting the 6P over the S7 Edge was updates, Android N will be out end of Summer the S7 Edge will not see it until sometime early next year.
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Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
Seriously, it's your decision, why even spam the forum with your indecision? There are enough comparisons between the two phones, just do a bit of googling
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no offence meant, xda is for helping each other out, if you can't add anything important, then please dont post replies. there are many users back here who are ready to help the op out.
This is my first Nexus device. I love the smoothness and appreciate the fast updates. I don't think you can go wrong with either phone, more so if you change phones often. But if I were asked I would say hands down stay with the Nexus. These days I have learnt to appreciate the faster updates, especially the security updates. Samsung is notoriously slow with the updates. And you're on AT&T too? Updates are a foreign word to you (trust me, I had the AT&T Note5). But it comes down to what your priorities are.
I gave up on Sammy after my MDK S4 (the last of the unlockable Galaxies). Screw that Knox BS.
I was also thinking about selling my 6P for the edge, but I'm on Verizon and who knows when I would see android N there. Furthermore, my phone would be locked down to VZW and I don't like that, their bloatware, etc. The only thing that the S7 edge has on its side is a better camera, better battery life (maybe), and gaming performance (I don't play hardcore games), better screen (but smaller), nicer build quality (maybe?). After that, it goes downhill fast. Only 32GB? And you can only use 20GB of internal because of the TouchWiz hog. You can add a SD card, but can't transfer bloatware apps. I think I'm juts going to keep my 6P 128GB and wait for android N.
I came from the s7 edge to nexus 6p and i love this damn phone i will never get a samsung phone again and as for memory got the 128 one.
Personally, I would go for the S7 Edge. I've had both phones and while the 6P is smoother (not faster), the S7 Edge just offers more overall. Better build quality, better camera (imo), wireless charging built in, water resistance and much more software features built in without having to root or install a bunch of extra apps.
Sure you won't get software updates nearly as fast, but I'm starting to realize that those are somewhat overrated after having both. The couple 6P updates while I had that phone did more harm than good. I lost LTE frequently on AT&T which was a known issue with those couple of updates. With the super fast updates, we are almost like beta testers for Google.
While that's fun and exciting for a while, I'm at a point in my life and career where I need a stable phone with thoroughly tested software. As crazy as that sounds with all the complaints I've made about slow updates on AT&T in the past lol.
Another tidbit is that I've already received 3 software updates on my AT&T S7 Edge since I've had it. They have definitely gotten better about it so far. With Google now offering incentives to carriers, I hope the trend continues!
But at the end of the day the choice is yours. Like someone else said before, make the trade and then sell the S7 Edge for more than you can get another 6P for if you are unsure. And if having a transition device is an issue, just grab a cheap under $50 phone from Craigslist or something. I always have a cheap BLU phone on deck for transitions lol.
Good luck!
I actually have both and yes the 6p is a little smoother but the battery on my s7 edge lasts quite a bit longer. I go back to my 6p just for a day or so and use the edge for weeks at a time. I cant seem to make myself use the 6p for more then a day. The screen and the camera are unreal. also the 6p shows massive amounts of finger prints and the edge does not
Biggest reason never to buy Samdung is KNOX.
Nuff said.