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I've had my V20 for over a month now and I personally love this phone and have it set up almost exactly the way I like it (just waiting for Xposed), and maybe it's just me but one thing I've noticed is that haptic feedback is so weak (even set to maximum) it's practically non existent. The vibration levels for notifications aren't too bad especially compared to haptic but imo they still could use an increase, so does anyone know if it would be possible to increase the maximum haptic and vibration levels when rooted? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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jeep447 said:
I've had my V20 for over a month now and I personally love this phone and have it set up almost exactly the way I like it (just waiting for Xposed), and maybe it's just me but one thing I've noticed is that haptic feedback is so weak (even set to maximum) it's practically non existent. The vibration levels for notifications aren't too bad especially compared to haptic but imo they still could use an increase, so does anyone know if it would be possible to increase the maximum haptic and vibration levels when rooted? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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Actually , in turned the vibrate down to about medium. It seems that on high it vibrates very fast and I can't feel it, but when I turned it down I feel it better.
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masondoctorjt said:
Actually , in turned the vibrate down to about medium. It seems that on high it vibrates very fast and I can't feel it, but when I turned it down I feel it better.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I just lowered mine down to try it out and I get what you're saying because idk if it's just in my head but I can already tell a difference while typing this message. I'll give it a try for a while to see if I still notice it over time but it honestly does seem like it made a difference so thanks again for the suggestion, I'd still like to know if there's any way to increase it though because even though what you said seems to have helped it still just feels a little too weak compared to what I'm used to.
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Yeah coming from the note 7 the v20 is very weak unfortunately. I could have heard my note 7 vibrate when on a flat surface from another room lol
It's so bad i can hear it vibrating/echoing. Is everyone else's this strong? And if you have/had a 3/3T do you think it is a lot stronger?
There's an option to decrease the vibration and intensity and even the vibration pattern. You could try that.
Oh boy.
Yes. As the other guy mentioned. You can decrease the intensity in setting.
But also: I am coming from a htc10. The OP5 is way more quiet / weaker than my 10. If you think the OP5 is loud, the htc 10 would be an earthquake to you ;D
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There's an option to decrease the vibration and intensity and even the vibration pattern. You could try that.
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I have. It is still strong and I can hear it everytime it gives feedback.
Allez, another reason to return it!
LeKeiser said:
Allez, another reason to return it!
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I agree. Along with the jello issue. I'm unimpressed.
MrMeeseeks said:
I agree. Along with the jello issue. I'm unimpressed.
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you forgot the blind camera.
MrMeeseeks said:
It's so bad i can hear it vibrating/echoing. Is everyone else's this strong? And if you have/had a 3/3T do you think it is a lot stronger?
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the vibration was too weak IMO on the 3 so this is a welcome for me. I've yet to open my op5 yet so we will see
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the vibration was too weak IMO on the 3 so this is a welcome for me. I've yet to open my op5 yet so we will see
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I love the 3T vibration. It's there just enough to know it's there. My wife doesn't think the 5 is as strong as her iPhone 7+ vibration so I guess I'm just used to the 3/3T plus personal preference.
I Love the Vibration of the op5, but i Need longer Vibration!!!! Even in WhatsApp settings it doesnt Work
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Coming from the s7, the haptic feedback is so strong, even on Light intensity... It would have been nice if it was more refined The s7 is far superior in this aspect.
Regarding htc10, when I first got that in hand, the haptic feedback was a instant no go for me :-s
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Coming from the s7, the haptic feedback is so strong, even on Light intensity... It would have been nice if it was more refined The s7 is far superior in this aspect.
Regarding htc10, when I first got that in hand, the haptic feedback was a instant no go for me :-s
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Coming from the Galaxy S4, the vibration on the OP5 is much too weak for my tastes.
Is it still too strong? I recall reading that an update lowered the intensity overall. Does anyone know what was changed? I'd like to be able to increase it back (if safe to do so). Hoping it's rom based and not kernel. Or if it's kernel, maybe a custom kernel already has it increased
Okay, I've done some observations on the scroll lag issues and here's what I know.
- It persists on 8.1 ROMs too
- It mostly affects custom ROMs
- Switching kernels does not fix it
- Max CPU and GPU does not fix it (even OC)
Here's my suspected causes:
- Our touchscreen driver is bad
- Our touchscreen panel is bad
- Included screen protector is bad (anyone have scroll lag without it?)
Tell me if you notice this too, but when I scroll with my finger in the top right edge, I get almost 0 lag when scrolling. Is it possible its the display sensitivity that isn't stable? Do you feel this too? Maybe its other areas of the screen too.
Please share your ideas and thoughts. We really want to fix this issue as the phone would be so amazing if it didn't lag EVERYWHERE.
I think it's a combination of both : bad touchscreen and bad driver's as it seems to affect both stock, Caf and Los . I did a test with an old Samsung note 4 an iPhone 5s and a Huawei p20 Pro and it seems that there are certain "gaps" in the panel that when in usage register touches with a certain latency . This and also the sub par refresh rate. Even the old iPhone/note had better touch accuracy under heavy load.
I guess this is the price you pay for a 150 euro phone. Some corner's will be cut.
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I think it's a combination of both : bad touchscreen and bad driver's as it seems to affect both stock, Caf and Los . I did a test with an old Samsung note 4 an iPhone 5s and a Huawei p20 Pro and it seems that there are certain "gaps" in the panel that when in usage register touches with a certain latency . This and also the sub par refresh rate. Even the old iPhone/note had better touch accuracy under heavy load.
I guess this is the price you pay for a 150 euro phone. Some corner's will be cut.
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I can update the drivers from another kernel. Do you get hot spots on the A1 that you can notice (for me top right very edge)?
Honestly, I've replaced my tianma display in service centre for screen retention issue, i got ilitek ones then the display is super smooth n scrolling is smooth. it's the problem withth your display ",faulty display"
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Honestly, I've replaced my tianma display in service centre for screen retention issue, i got ilitek ones then the display is super smooth n scrolling is smooth. it's the problem withth your display ",faulty display"
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I have a focaltech 5435 + ili7807. Stuttery scrolling :/
Same here even scrolling the xiaomi official forum (mobile version) lags ao bad
I have ilitek and no lag but colors are washed out and digitizer grid is completely visible
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Same here even scrolling the xiaomi official forum (mobile version) lags ao bad
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Do you get lag when scrolling at the edge of the screen? For me its smooth on the very edges.
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I can update the drivers from another kernel. Do you get hot spots on the A1 that you can notice (for me top right very edge)?
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Sorry for late reply. Not really hot spots or you could call them hot spots but the are in a H pattern across the display. Also touch accuracy is abysmal.
Now I've installed Flyme OS the problem still persists that and the screen becoming tottaly unresponsive. But the proximity sensor bug it's gone, so altleast that is a good thing.
If they don't fix altleast some of the bugs in 8.1 I'm goona smash this crap phone into a wall
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Do you get lag when scrolling at the edge of the screen? For me its smooth on the very edges.
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Wow, yes its smooth when.scrolling in the edges.
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Wow, yes its smooth when.scrolling in the edges.
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I think it's a bad driver or a bad digitizer. Imma try to fix it soon
You can replicate this lag 100% of the times with this "method", at least for me. Use your thumb with as much flesh touching the screen and then slowly drag your finger. You can notice the scroll lag in every direction.
Same with me, firstly, I thought it is bug of xiaomi rom, may be this will be fix with custom kernel and custom rom. But when custom rom came to mia1, try so many rom but laggy still there, really disapointed.
It is awkward that seem mia1 is the only xiaomi face with this issue. Redmi 5a - lowest price phone of Xiaomi is fine and MI5x same spec with mia1 doesn't have any complain about laggy scroll.
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Same with me, firstly, I thought it is bug of xiaomi rom, may be this will be fix with custom kernel and custom rom. But when custom rom came to mia1, try so many rom but laggy still there, really disapointed.
It is awkward that seem mia1 is the only xiaomi face with this issue. Redmi 5a - lowest price phone of Xiaomi is fine and MI5x same spec with mia1 doesn't have any complain about laggy scroll.
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I discovered that if you have two fingers on the screen there's no lag. So use one finger and hold it, then start scrolling with your other thumb. 0 lag. It's gotta be a driver thing. I've been working on micro optimizing it but its gotta be something with the scanning frequency when there's only one finger. But frequency is a firmware thing and I dont think we can gen a firmware blob without a manufacturer tool. It's also possible it's a voltage thing (which I can set in the driver). I'll keep working on it but I think its definitely fixable.
Hey guys i dont know this problem, just bought one, does it easily notice?, how can i check it?
It's mostly a software issue, just flashed August nougat rom and the scroll was a little more responsive
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It's mostly a software issue, just flashed August nougat rom and the scroll was a little more responsive
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Oh interesting. I'll check it out
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It's mostly a software issue, just flashed August nougat rom and the scroll was a little more responsive
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i did this. no improvement whatsoever.
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i did this. no improvement whatsoever.
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Did you start having the issue when you first got the phone or after you first flashed a custom ROM? Maybe its a persist thing.
watsusername said:
Honestly, I've replaced my tianma display in service centre for screen retention issue, i got ilitek ones then the display is super smooth n scrolling is smooth. it's the problem withth your display ",faulty display"
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It would be interesting to know what screens those experiencing problems have.
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I get no lag at all, I have checked and I also have a ilitek screen.
I have had my A2017U since October of 2016. The vibration was okay until B19 came out, then I started to notice this rattling noise accompanying every phone vibration. My phone has never fallen heavily or anything. Initially, I thought it was the build. From my observation, the vibration on B29 (the first Marshmallow build) is a lot softer than the Nougat and onwards builds, which is why I didn't notice it back then. So I'm guessing the motor might be a bit loose and the stronger vibration on the subsequent ROMS are triggering this loud noise?
If anyone has experienced this or knows how to fix it, please let me know, as it is quite annoying and I plan to trade it in and get another device next year. This problem could be a deal breaker and it renders the vibration almost unusable in quiet places; draws unnecessary attention.
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I have had my A2017U since October of 2016. The vibration was okay until B19 came out, then I started to notice this rattling noise accompanying every phone vibration. My phone has never fallen heavily or anything. Initially, I thought it was the build. From my observation, the vibration on B29 (the first Marshmallow build) is a lot softer than the Nougat and onwards builds, which is why I didn't notice it back then. So I'm guessing the motor might be a bit loose and the stronger vibration on the subsequent ROMS are triggering this loud noise?
If anyone has experienced this or knows how to fix it, please let me know, as it is quite annoying and I plan to trade it in and get another device next year. This problem could be a deal breaker and it renders the vibration almost unusable in quiet places; draws unnecessary attention.
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That's normal, it happens once you crank the vibration force up. Shouldn't happen on stock ROMs but it does. I have that on Oreo even though i never had that problem on other builds. I suspect it's the bonding between the vibrator and the daughter board that's bad for some reason, though maybe it's just the vibrator itself
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That's normal, it happens once you crank the vibration force up. Shouldn't happen on stock ROMs but it does. I have that on Oreo even though i never had that problem on other builds. I suspect it's the bonding between the vibrator and the daughter board that's bad for some reason, though maybe it's just the vibrator itself
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Yeah, that's the weird part; I never bothered with cranking it up in any way and I'm currently running V2.10B12. If anything, I recently downloaded the Vibration Tuner Xposed module to try to tone it down. The results are a bit so-so, and the rattling sneaks in every now and then. On Oreo, it doesn't even work. I'm guessing it has to do with the rw issue we're currently experiencing.
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Yeah, that's the weird part; I never bothered with cranking it up in any way and I'm currently running V2.10B12. If anything, I recently downloaded the Vibration Tuner Xposed module to try to tone it down. The results are a bit so-so, and the rattling sneaks in every now and then. On Oreo, it doesn't even work. I'm guessing it has to do with the rw issue we're currently experiencing.
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No connection whatsoever, rw is because it's a closed beta.
You'll have to find a custom kernel thay works with your ROM and tune it down from kernel adiutor
Thanks for the info. Do you know of any custom kernels for stock? I am yet to see one that works on stock ROMs. CAD, Llama, HellsGate all seem to work only on custom ROMs
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Thanks for the info. Do you know of any custom kernels for stock? I am yet to see one that works on stock ROMs. CAD, Llama, HellsGate all seem to work only on custom ROMs
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BeastMode worked with U stock but it's not updated anymore. Worth a try anyways.
Otherwise just go custom or install one of the Oreo betas (i recommend B01 w/ hdr+ patch), because someone is gonna publish a kernel for it sometime soon
Yeah, the only thing keeping me away from custom Oreo is the dual-SIM bug, but a comment I just found on AEX suggests that it works on the latest build. I'm going to give it a whirl when I get home on Tuesday.
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Yeah, the only thing keeping me away from custom Oreo is the dual-SIM bug, but a comment I just found on AEX suggests that it works on the latest build. I'm going to give it a whirl when I get home on Tuesday.
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I meant Oreo betas as in B01, non custom, but yeah, AEX has dual sim since long ago anyways
KwesiJnr said:
I have had my A2017U since October of 2016. The vibration was okay until B19 came out, then I started to notice this rattling noise accompanying every phone vibration. My phone has never fallen heavily or anything. Initially, I thought it was the build. From my observation, the vibration on B29 (the first Marshmallow build) is a lot softer than the Nougat and onwards builds, which is why I didn't notice it back then. So I'm guessing the motor might be a bit loose and the stronger vibration on the subsequent ROMS are triggering this loud noise?
If anyone has experienced this or knows how to fix it, please let me know, as it is quite annoying and I plan to trade it in and get another device next year. This problem could be a deal breaker and it renders the vibration almost unusable in quiet places; draws unnecessary attention.
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I´ve got the same issue here with my A2017G running Nougat B12. It suddenly appeared. Phone has never been dropped or handled roughly. As far as I understand its an issue with a badly constructed or weak holder of the vibration motor. It rattled itself loose. On the upside it seems to disappear by itself as I am not encountering that issue any more.
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I´ve got the same issue here with my A2017G running Nougat B12. It suddenly appeared. Phone has never been dropped or handled roughly. As far as I understand its an issue with a badly constructed or weak holder of the vibration motor. It rattled itself loose. On the upside, it seems to disappear by itself as I am not encountering that issue anymore.
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Good for you, mine has been bugging me for months. I'm dreading having to open the phone to fix it; I might do that when I'm ready to sell.
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I found an easy fix for this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/super-easy-fix-rattling-vibrator-motor-t3895234
Anybody know of a fix for the ridiculous amount of lag on Pie? Between that and the sad excuse of video recording, I'm really debating on going back to my buttery smooth Z2force. The only problem is this phone is pure eye candy, comfortable to hold, and my hands have betrayed my eyes recognition of the lag and fell in love this phone. . The performance is more like snapdragon 620 than 835. Any help regarding this situation would be highly appreciated
I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
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Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
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I discovered this a month ago and it helps.just go to root/system/buildprop. Add the following to right under additional build settings.then reboot. That's the default setting, but u can mess with the value to get it to your liking
You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with a SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with an SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
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Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
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If I were you, I'd wipe everything, and then fastboot the full official pie update. Just to fully eliminate software.
Hi there I am the same boat like you . I got lag typing on keyboard scroll is not smooth at all .I tried reinstalling the latest build and factory full reset pus wipe all data .I can't resolve the lag I think they rush to get it in the same date like the pixel but is not optimised for this device for example get an icon and hold it and get it to place it in another location you will find out that the icon is behind when you move it
The only and I think temporary fix is by doing this
Go and click 5 times on build number and go in developer settings you will find there touch sensitivity set it to 10 let say default is 4 I think . You will improve touch latency a bit .
I just bought the device I don't know how it was on Oreo but I can say on this pie build official is not smooth
@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
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@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
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I hear ya brother. To be fair I haven't had any of those other problems I heard about before buying the phone besides what's mentioned in this thread. 3rd party camera apps with full manual control drastically improved camera quality for my device. If you want to see the lag I'm taking about just YouTube it.
As far as SD625 and Sd835, there's a huge difference for me being a power user. Lots of gaming, editing videos, download big files, or even just transferring data from internal to external sd you will definitely see a big difference in performance during any memory extensive task.
@mookiexl
Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
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Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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All I've done since receiving the device is take all system updates and then unlocked bootloader which in turn wipe data. See the video I posted for details. If you have another SD835 device to compare it too try tha,t or better yet don't because it will make the lag very bothersome once you know its there.
That video is a year old. I have no discernible lag even with upward of 20 apps in the background, but I'm not saying that you don't.
Also, I had this and a Google PXL at the same time up until a few weeks ago. If anything, the PH1 was better, smoother and faster.
I've got serious lag... Keyoress lag, stuttering during scrolling. Could it be because of RAM usage? The stats in developer options say that I using 3.4 out of 3.9 gb on average....
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I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
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Can you explain how I dod a full wipe?
Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
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Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
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I'm on November and ram management Is fine for me.
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