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How do you guys can live with the lag on the exynos version ( not trolling ) ?

A week ago I got myself a s8 ,I have an iPhone 7 Plus and I’m so sick of having to deal with this size , it feels like a brick, plus I don’t like the “psysical button “ , I wanted to get rid of it so I gave the s8 a try , and so I did and I loved the design , the screen , the camera ( night shots are better than the iPhone 7 in my opinion ) but the performance is just awful , innaceptable for a flagship , choppy scrolling , the framerate skips like crazy sometimes , it just ... lags :/
I couldn’t believe it after reading the rave reviews , so it turns out that the European version has the Exynos cpu instead of the snapdragon 835 and the benchmarks don’t tell the whole story , I tried uninstalling unnecessary apps , deactivating bloat apps , deactivating the side panel , using nova launcher ( without using root or freezing apps or something like that , but it didn’t help , did you guys just get used to the lag ? :/ have you read that the performance on the note 8 is better (the example version of course ) and if it is , so you think it’s because of the extra ram ?
I’m hopeful that Samsung will make the performance better with the Oreo update but that update will probably come in December / January , what are we supposed to do until then ?

Coming from a Huawei Mate 9 and resently activating my note 8(snapdragon) it ain't much better. Nothing about this phone is butter smooth.
Will be getting mate 10 next month. First Samsung since note 3/4.
Not horrible but expected more with specs/company

I honestly don´t know what you are talking about. Maybe I just don´t notice it.
I know up to the Galaxy S6 the Samsung Flagships were always lagging like crazy with StockROMs, but at least since the S7 it´s smooth like other Flagships. (Always talking about Exynos)
Where do you experience the lag? I just checked Twitter, Menus and browser an couldn´t notice any

I use Nova Launcher, which definitely improves the experience a lot. Combined with changing animations to 0.5x it almost never feels laggy. I rarely switch back to TouchWiz to see if it has improved, but always end up going back to Nova. I also use Gboard instead of Samsung keyboard, which also feels snappier and has better prediction.

cawith said:
I use Nova Launcher, which definitely improves the experience a lot. Combined with changing animations to 0.5x it almost never feels laggy. I rarely switch back to TouchWiz to see if it has improved, but always end up going back to Nova. I also use Gboard instead of Samsung keyboard, which also feels snappier and has better prediction.
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Same here ! No more lag with this setup

I have the dual SIM international version (Exynos) since around launch date. I don't recall any instances of lag. On rare occasions there is the odd app crash.
I have not used an iPhone for any length of time to be able to compare, but we have a couple of iPads, one of them is relatively new and when using it for general browsing, reading, etc, I don't feel that I get a markedly better or smoother experience. Both S8 and iPad just work very well.

Chad_Petree said:
A week ago I got myself a s8 ,I have an iPhone 7 Plus and I’m so sick of having to deal with this size , it feels like a brick, plus I don’t like the “psysical button “ , I wanted to get rid of it so I gave the s8 a try , and so I did and I loved the design , the screen , the camera ( night shots are better than the iPhone 7 in my opinion ) but the performance is just awful , innaceptable for a flagship , choppy scrolling , the framerate skips like crazy sometimes , it just ... lags :/
I couldn’t believe it after reading the rave reviews , so it turns out that the European version has the Exynos cpu instead of the snapdragon 835 and the benchmarks don’t tell the whole story , I tried uninstalling unnecessary apps , deactivating bloat apps , deactivating the side panel , using nova launcher ( without using root or freezing apps or something like that , but it didn’t help , did you guys just get used to the lag ? :/ have you read that the performance on the note 8 is better (the example version of course ) and if it is , so you think it’s because of the extra ram ?
I’m hopeful that Samsung will make the performance better with the Oreo update but that update will probably come in December / January , what are we supposed to do until then ?
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I have an iphone 7 256gb Red Edition and my S8 is no more laggy than my iphone, yes iphone can lag too. BTW, iphone is for sale. You need to be more specific where you see lags if you want people to help. I get lag when scrolling on Piano Tiles 2 but that's because he's a ****ty developer but the game is awesome. Need way more details.

I have exynos version with custom rom and i have no lags. If you what have fone with no lags at all buy iPhone. Every android have Little lags and glitches.

DEVELOPER OPTIONS (see screenshot) transition animation speed 0.5x
I read a post in the Essential Phone forum:
@IM0001 wrote:
"As far as snappyness, is it something like the transitions being slow or something else?
To make it more snappy, go into developer options and set the transition speed to .5 instead of 1. That should make things seem to zip."
I've attached a screenshot, but my transition animation speed is still at default 1x (i.e., not the 0.5x recommendation).

Marvinho+ said:
I honestly don´t know what you are talking about. Maybe I just don´t notice it.
I know up to the Galaxy S6 the Samsung Flagships were always lagging like crazy with StockROMs, but at least since the S7 it´s smooth like other Flagships. (Always talking about Exynos)
Where do you experience the lag? I just checked Twitter, Menus and browser an couldn´t notice any
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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram , the play store and in the browser when the website hasnt fully loaded if you try to scroll its a lag fest
jhofseth said:
I read a post in the Essential Phone forum:
@IM0001 wrote:
"As far as snappyness, is it something like the transitions being slow or something else?
To make it more snappy, go into developer options and set the transition speed to .5 instead of 1. That should make things seem to zip."
I've attached a screenshot, but my transition animation speed is still at default 1x (i.e., not the 0.5x recommendation).
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its more like the screen "trembles" , they just don't feel smooth , it feels like the phone it's at its limit, it's just "choppy"

Facebook is a horrible app regarding optimization. I also noticed horrible lags there. Ended up uninstalling and i am now using it via chrome and its great. No lags, bettet battery etc.
I dont use twitter but instagram is fine on me no lags at all. As for playstore nothing can be done about it. It was always that way.

Chad_Petree said:
Twitter, Facebook, Instagram , the play store and in the browser when the website hasnt fully loaded if you try to scroll its a lag fest
its more like the screen "trembles" , they just don't feel smooth , it feels like the phone it's at its limit, it's just "choppy"
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All of this + youtube hdr playback above 720p. Seriously it should be fixed or bye bye samsung this time.
P.S The ``tremble`` is called stuttering and if you search from google you will found tons of users having exactly the same issue. In my oppinion the exynos processor throttles a lot due to overheating. Cant proove it though cause am no specialist on this matter
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Lets say i visit www.rt.com with the browser , as soon as the comments the advertisments appear , performance is halved and it sucks to browse in such a way.

No lag for me, if there was then I wouldn't have the phone, I am EXTREMELY demanding. But then I dont have **** apps like twitter and facebook that are VERY badly written and drain the battery like theres no tomorrow. I also use nova so cant comment on whether any lag might be touchwiz related, not used touchwiz since my S3.

ewokuk said:
No lag for me, if there was then I wouldn't have the phone, I am EXTREMELY demanding. But then I dont have **** apps like twitter and facebook that are VERY badly written and drain the battery like theres no tomorrow. I also use nova so cant comment on whether any lag might be touchwiz related, not used touchwiz since my S3.
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can you properly play 1440p hdr videos from youtube or even 1080p hdr without stutter and frame skip?

tasked28m said:
can you properly play 1440p hdr videos from youtube or even 1080p hdr without stutter and frame skip?
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Weird thing-- I'm using one of the YouTube background play-enabled apps.. God I wish I could remember which one, but I got it here. Has some theme options, using one with a back background. I experience absolutely no lag with 1440phdr with this app.. No such luck with the base Youtube app
After cleaning up as many services as possible with Package Disabler, the rest of my interface lag has vanished (even in TouchWiz)
Last couple days have seemed like I have finally found the device the S8 is supposed to be, buried under the inefficient bloat and bogus it ships with.. Of course, I'm on the 835, so this may not have meant anything to begin with haha

Chad_Petree said:
A week ago I got myself a s8 ,I have an iPhone 7 Plus and I’m so sick of having to deal with this size , it feels like a brick, plus I don’t like the “psysical button “ , I wanted to get rid of it so I gave the s8 a try , and so I did and I loved the design , the screen , the camera ( night shots are better than the iPhone 7 in my opinion ) but the performance is just awful , innaceptable for a flagship , choppy scrolling , the framerate skips like crazy sometimes , it just ... lags :/
I couldn’t believe it after reading the rave reviews , so it turns out that the European version has the Exynos cpu instead of the snapdragon 835 and the benchmarks don’t tell the whole story , I tried uninstalling unnecessary apps , deactivating bloat apps , deactivating the side panel , using nova launcher ( without using root or freezing apps or something like that , but it didn’t help , did you guys just get used to the lag ? :/ have you read that the performance on the note 8 is better (the example version of course ) and if it is , so you think it’s because of the extra ram ?
I’m hopeful that Samsung will make the performance better with the Oreo update but that update will probably come in December / January , what are we supposed to do until then ?
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Exynos version really sucks...

greatpouya said:
Exynos version really sucks...
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Snapdragon isint much better either. My roommate got a pixel 2 XL and his phone is smoother (with all apps running) than my freshly factory reseted S8.

i just changed my iphone 7 with s8 exynos , i see no different in performance , in fact i loved s8 more , i can't deny that s8 have a little of lags but from my experience ios has lags too , i have 6:30H screen on time in my s8 , i never dreamed about that in my iphone 7 , in iphone I only got 5H screen on time

This is assuming the iPhone 7 suffered no lag or stutters under iOS 11. I came from the iPhone 7 and use to notice stutters while scrolling through contact lists and even the home button had delays. I've got Nova Launcher set up on my current S8 and stock rom with tons of apps and never formatted since I've been using it for the past 3months. I won't lie I did come across occasional stutters but I find it way more fluid than the experience I had on iOS. The list scrolling, app animations,etc is really smooth.
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I agree to a certain extent. I used the Xperia XZ1 Compact for a month on Android 8.0. The interface felt faster than the S8 given the same developer options. You can speed up the S8 if you want by lowering the screen resolution (settings>display). But then you wouldn't have the higest (other than S7) screen DPI ever seen on a phone.

[OPM1] Is there real jank? I'd say yes

Hi all,
I'm a proud owner of PH-1 since yesterday. The device is beautiful, feels so good in my hands, premium looking.
But, after checking everything was working fine and applying all the OTAs, I felt the performance was not good enough. You know, the unwanted jank.
I'm sure that Snapdragon 835 + screen resolution combination must fly, without jank at all; the best proof is that it's something you experiment with the current Lineageos ROM, although I haven't tested it by myself yet.
Therefore, after reading some comments which pointed that OREO beta performed better, I upgraded to it and made a FR to start with a clean upgrade. But I still have that unpleasant feeling.
I've taken several systraces trying to find out something that could help, but the truth is that jank is everywhere. Two examples:
- Scrolling through Amazon app: check amazon.png attachment. Several frames lost at once, due to the orientation sensor + sporadic jank:
Title MessageLoop::RunTask
Category toplevel
User Friendly Category other
Start
1.619,131 ms
Wall Duration
138,135 ms
Self Time
0,033 ms
Args
src_file
"../../mojo/public/cpp/system/simple_watcher.cc"
src_func
"ArmOrNotify"
- Scrolling through Settings. Jank again (specially when the end scrolling animation is shown).
This has been just a quick analysis. We can confirm that improvement is possible. It's not only a feeling now.
I don't know if Essential team reads this forum, but I'd love to see this improved. It's the only thing, IMHO, that needs to get fixed to own a perfect phone.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,

Galitrin said:
Hi all,
I'm a proud owner of PH-1 since yesterday. The device is beautiful, feels so good in my hands, premium looking.
But, after checking everything was working fine and applying all the OTAs, I felt the performance was not good enough. You know, the unwanted jank.
I'm sure that Snapdragon 835 + screen resolution combination must fly, without jank at all; the best proof is that it's something you experiment with the current Lineageos ROM, although I haven't tested it by myself yet.
Therefore, after reading some comments which pointed that OREO beta performed better, I upgraded to it and made a FR to start with a clean upgrade. But I still have that unpleasant feeling.
I've taken several systraces trying to find out something that could help, but the truth is that jank is everywhere. Two examples:
- Scrolling through Amazon app: check amazon.png attachment. Several frames lost at once, due to the orientation sensor + sporadic jank:
Title MessageLoop::RunTask
Category toplevel
User Friendly Category other
Start
1.619,131 ms
Wall Duration
138,135 ms
Self Time
0,033 ms
Args
src_file
"../../mojo/public/cpp/system/simple_watcher.cc"
src_func
"ArmOrNotify"
- Scrolling through Settings. Jank again (specially when the end scrolling animation is shown).
This has been just a quick analysis. We can confirm that improvement is possible. It's not only a feeling now.
I don't know if Essential team reads this forum, but I'd love to see this improved. It's the only thing, IMHO, that needs to get fixed to own a perfect phone.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
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They are aware of it and they said this issue is top priority. Whether they can fix it that remains to be seen. My gut tells me they can improve the touch scrolling, but ultimately there's an issue with the LCD panel. I am hoping it's not a design flaw and that I'm proven wrong. This is my main issue with the device. I love everything else about it. In Lineage the touch scrolling and performance in general is much better compared to stock or Oreo beta, but the touch scrolling issue is still there.

The problem with the scrolling is waaaaay better than my LG G4 (which seems to have been programmed to go down after a year ).
The only issue I really had is with some news website opened through the Facebook app, where scrolling is just not working.

Thanks for your replies.
Just to summarize: I'm talking about performance problems, that's it, missed frames when scrolling or an animation is shown (ie: open an app). That's not acceptable on a device powered by a 835 processor.
Br,

Galitrin said:
Thanks for your replies.
Just to summarize: I'm talking about performance problems, that's it, missed frames when scrolling or an animation is shown (ie: open an app). That's not acceptable on a device powered by a 835 processor.
Br,
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Switch to Lineage if it really bothers you. I personally could not handle stock for the reasons you mentioned. Lineage is like using a completely different device. Night and day difference when it comes to UI smoothness and performance. Latest build has incredible battery life too.

mhajii210 said:
Switch to Lineage if it really bothers you. I personally could not handle stock for the reasons you mentioned. Lineage is like using a completely different device. Night and day difference when it comes to UI smoothness and performance. Latest build has incredible battery life too.
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Completely agree. I switched to LineageOs yesterday, and looks like a different phone. No jank and battery consumption is really good so far.
Thanks for the tip. I would really like to go back to stock, but once they have fixed both idle consumption and jank issues.
Br,

Scrolling smoothness

Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Xiaomi Poco F1 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

New member here, my first comment!
Is it just me, or the scrolling is pretty sluggish on Poco f1?
It doesn't lag or freeze but the latency is pretty high. When I scroll up and down fast, finger moves and the icons or the text on the webpage lags behind by 1-2 cm before it catches up the finger position.
Is it normal. I think it wasn't the case with my previous phone, nexus 5.

PD2091 said:
Is it just me, or the scrolling is pretty sluggish on Poco f1?
It doesn't lag or freeze but the latency is pretty high. When I scroll up and down fast, finger moves and the icons or the text on the webpage lags behind by 1-2 cm before it catches up the finger position.
Is it normal. I think it wasn't the case with my previous phone, nexus 5.
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For sure they have to optimize their firmware/OS as its not even par with OnePlus 5T smoothness yet. Hope to see a solid update for performance and quality soon from Poco developers / Xiaomi Team!

PD2091 said:
Is it just me, or the scrolling is pretty sluggish on Poco f1?
It doesn't lag or freeze but the latency is pretty high. When I scroll up and down fast, finger moves and the icons or the text on the webpage lags behind by 1-2 cm before it catches up the finger position.
Is it normal. I think it wasn't the case with my previous phone, nexus 5.
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I think that is mostly due to the Animation Scale set to 1x by default. Turn that completely off in developer settings and give it a try.

This might help-
- Go to Settings
- Go to About Phone
- Keep tapping on MIUI version(For Poco) till it gives you developer rights
- Go back to settings main menu
- Scroll to System & Device sub-menu and tap on Additional settings
- Scroll to the end and tap on Developer settings
- Scroll down to Drawing sub-menu and make the following changes
- Set Window animation scale to OFF
- Set Transition animation scale to OFF
- Set Animator duration scale to 1x

ShivaRungta said:
This might help-
- Go to Settings
- Go to About Phone
- Keep tapping on MIUI version(For Poco) till it gives you developer rights
- Go back to settings main menu
- Scroll to System & Device sub-menu and tap on Additional settings
- Scroll to the end and tap on Developer settings
- Scroll down to Drawing sub-menu and make the following changes
- Set Window animation scale to OFF
- Set Transition animation scale to OFF
- Set Animator duration scale to 1x
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Better Solution:
Just Turn off MIUI Optimization (last option) from developer settings ,and all will be buttery smooth
More here https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-redmi-note-3-sd-mtk-multi-tasking-t3358433

jineshpatel30 said:
Better Solution:
Just Turn off MIUI Optimization (last option) from developer settings ,and all will be buttery smooth
More here https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-redmi-note-3-sd-mtk-multi-tasking-t3358433
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i tried that before but personally to me, disabling transition animations as well gives better results. Try scrolling facebook feed and you see the difference.

PD2091 said:
Is it just me, or the scrolling is pretty sluggish on Poco f1?
It doesn't lag or freeze but the latency is pretty high. When I scroll up and down fast, finger moves and the icons or the text on the webpage lags behind by 1-2 cm before it catches up the finger position.
Is it normal. I think it wasn't the case with my previous phone, nexus 5.
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Are u talking about some kind of motion blur during scrolling? It could be because of the displays that xiaomi uses but I haven't seen this confirmed anywhere. Their older phones also had this problem and it is noticeable if u came from a more expensive phone or have one side by side to compare it with. Try having the same page on both and scrolling at the same time. For some people it isn't that noticeable and I was wondering if it's also a problem in this newer phone because that would make sense as one of the reasons why it's cheap. It won't affect how fast things load and I don't think it's a software problem. There are some people talking about it if u do a Google search and it happens on different models. Hard to believe xiaomi would do it paired with a snapdragon 845 though. Makes more sense for weaker processors

Turn off MIUI Optimization, Change value from 1 to 0,5 and wait for newer updates to get my Pocophone F1 smoother then

is about hertz ,the touch display

For SD845 device scrolling performance is definitely terrible i don't know if it's software or poor quality of display but scrolling is no where near my 4 year old Nexus 5

Touch response is very poor. When I swipe left it works as swipe up or down. Sometimes swipe down or up and works as swipe left or right. Very disappointed..you can try it.. Just swipe down the notification bar and remove the notifications one by one and see the action.
Sometimes I didn't touch an area of the display, actually my fingers went over these portion of the display and it works as touch click. Very disappointed.
Is it software or hardware(touch display) bug?

arijit4785 said:
Is it software or hardware(touch display) bug?
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We don't know (yet). All I know is no update has fixed it so far. Tbh, I lost hope it's ever gonna be fixed. 50$ phones have better touch response than this "flagship killer killer". Scrolling and swiping is infuriating on Pocophone... Sometimes when I swipe left it goes right. So yeah... I think everyone has this issue but not everyone can notice it. I just don't know why some people say 'update to MIUI 10, it fixed it for me'. Or 'the latest stable update fixes it' when it CLEARLY DOESN'T.

mario123m said:
We don't know (yet). All I know is no update has fixed it so far. Tbh, I lost hope it's ever gonna be fixed. 50$ phones have better touch response than this "flagship killer killer". Scrolling and swiping is infuriating on Pocophone... Sometimes when I swipe left it goes right. So yeah... I think everyone has this issue but not everyone can notice it. I just don't know why some people say 'update to MIUI 10, it fixed it for me'. Or 'the latest stable update fixes it' when it CLEARLY DOESN'T.
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I think it may be solved after some update.. I read some threads that it will be solved after update.
Read this link https://en.miui.com/thread-3935216-1-1.html

mario123m said:
We don't know (yet). All I know is no update has fixed it so far. Tbh, I lost hope it's ever gonna be fixed. 50$ phones have better touch response than this "flagship killer killer". Scrolling and swiping is infuriating on Pocophone... Sometimes when I swipe left it goes right. So yeah... I think everyone has this issue but not everyone can notice it. I just don't know why some people say 'update to MIUI 10, it fixed it for me'. Or 'the latest stable update fixes it' when it CLEARLY DOESN'T.
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You have a faulty phone

For me, scrolling through things like settings or my Spotify playlist was very smooth and responsive but especially when scrolling through a WhatsApp chat it felt very sluggish (when I swiped down within a chat, let it scroll by itself and then put my finger down to stop at a specific point. The latency between my finger touching the display and the chat stopping scrolling always felt very high).
This improved a little by going from 9.6.14.0 (i think) to 9.6.22.0 and then quite a lot by disabling MIUI Optimizations.
I still keep MIUI Optimizations on since it makes the UI scale better.
I have high hopes that this is a software problem and will be gone at last with the Android Pie, MIUI 10 upgrade.

Well after installing the custom RoMs , touch is stilla pathetic. I don't feel the smoothness which I used to feel in my one plus 5. so does that mean its hardware fault..?

Pankaj_gehloach said:
Well after installing the custom RoMs , touch is stilla pathetic. I don't feel the smoothness which I used to feel in my one plus 5. so does that mean its hardware fault..?
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I think it is most likely hardware problem. Refresh rate is probably listed normally the same as other phones that don't have this problem so it's hard to know for sure

Does every pocophone have this issue? i have it too

bluedragon02 said:
Does every pocophone have this issue? i have it too
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NO!

LAG! :'(

Just got my OP6T yesterday and I'm getting lots of lag. Mostly scrolling lag when I'm scrolling slow through the app drawer, play store, etc. (fast scrolling is always smooth) I've also experienced lag in general while using the launcher and just doing normal functions. This is my first OnePlus device and I've always heard they are super smooth with no lag and so far this has not been the case for me.
Is my device defective? Is there some known issue I can fix? I don't want to have to return it but I don't want a laggy phone either.
(UPDATE) The cause for the lag seems to be gesture navigation and also immersive mode via a third party app (immersive mode is not a feature within the device but can be accessed by apps even without root). I've been using gesture navigation since I bought the phone and have had scrolling lag the whole time. I switched to the traditional 3 button nav last night and the lag was gone. Another user reported they are having terrible lag issues while using immersive mode but once they disable it the lag is completely gone.

Did you install any apps yet? Note most 3rd party apps are not fully well versed on Android 9.

Try updating to 9.0.5 and see if the problem persist. When I received the phone, I turned animation scale off. You can try that and see if you still notice lag.

You may have a defective one. Mine is extremely smooth. Dare I say it might be the smoothest Android experience I've ever had.
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coolguy said:
Did you install any apps yet? Note most 3rd party apps are not fully well versed on Android 9.
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Yes, I've installed my normal apps which is only like 30. I'm not a big app user so don't have tons and all those I use have worked good on pie for some time. I also have a Pixel 2XL and have been on Pie since the second beta last spring.

pguo said:
Try updating to 9.0.5 and see if the problem persist. When I received the phone, I turned animation scale off. You can try that and see if you still notice lag.
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I updated to 9.0.5 as soon as I got the phone yesterday. I don't want to turn off animations because they are pretty ;'(

Not the lag.. but I definitely see drop frames and jankiness coming from smooth pixel 2 xl

ram4ufriends said:
Not the lag.. but I definitely see drop frames and jankiness coming from smooth pixel 2 xl
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I also have a Pixel 2XL and didn't notice the lags I'm getting on the OP6T. I'm currently troubleshooting to see if I can find a solution.

I have not experienced one time lag as I can remember last days. I updated to latest firmware straight away

I'm on 9.0.4 - not done anything at all with it, and it's as fast as anything. If it's like that out of the box then it sounds like you've got a defective device.

I'm also getting stuttery scrolling on most apps. Came from Pixel 2xl and it was smoother than this. Should I be concerned I have a faulty device? My first one plus phone as well. It's not bad enough to bail on device but is definitely noticable and annoying.

Omg what's goin on in here, i came straight from pixel 2 xl and 6t feeeeels far more smooth than pixel, its blazing fast,

Who is your carrier? Maybe it's something specific to them?
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Don't get me wrong. This thing is way faster than the p2xl. Its just when I'm scrolling slowly reading on different apps, it misses here and there. Stuttery scrolling. It seems a little better after the update. I was scrolling on Zedge and it was like it was 10 fps..
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ledvedder said:
Who is your carrier? Maybe it's something specific to them?
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
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At&t

slygeist said:
I'm also getting stuttery scrolling on most apps. Came from Pixel 2xl and it was smoother than this. Should I be concerned I have a faulty device? My first one plus phone as well. It's not bad enough to bail on device but is definitely noticable and annoying.
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I installed ElementalX kernel and so far it seems to have fixed the stutter while scrolling. I'm paying close attention and if it keeps up I'll be returning it for another device. The only reason I'm stressing it so much is one of the main reasons I bought it is because for years the OnePlus devices have been praised for being super smooth, fast, with no UI lag. Lag, frame drops, stutter, and UI faults of any sort bother me greatly. My Pixel2XL has had a bit of lag here and there but overall it's been smooth and pleasant to use so I can't handle anything less.

slygeist said:
Don't get me wrong. This thing is way faster than the p2xl. Its just when I'm scrolling slowly reading on different apps, it misses here and there. Stuttery scrolling.
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This is exactly the issue I've experienced. It's only during slow scrolling. I've also had lag in other areas like opening folders and closing apps but it's mostly been while scrolling -- but like I said so far the ElementalX kernel seems to have fixed it.

imucarmen said:
This is exactly the issue I've experienced. It's only during slow scrolling. I've also had lag in other areas like opening folders and closing apps but it's mostly been while scrolling -- but like I said so far the ElementalX kernel seems to have fixed it.
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Just flashed elemental kernal. Will test for a bit and post back.
Did you change any of the settings or all defaults?

slygeist said:
Just flashed elemental kernal. Will test for a bit and post back.
Did you change any of the settings or all defaults?
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I changed all the cpu cores to their max frequency but left the governors default. That is it. Battery life seems the same.
I will say also that I noticed within EX Kernel Manager that the CPU cores were running very low frequencies by default which makes me wonder if for some reason my device had drastically underclocked cores. The max frequency I was seeing on any cores was 1.7GHz.

imucarmen said:
I changed all the cpu cores to their max frequency but left the governors default. That is it. Battery life seems the same.
I will say also that I noticed within EX Kernel Manager that the CPU cores were running very low frequencies by default which makes me wonder if for some reason my device had drastically underclocked cores. The max frequency I was seeing on any cores was 1.7GHz.
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Hmm. Mine are maxing at 1056 all four of them. When I'm scrolling on the screen..

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Hmm. Mine are maxing at 1056 all four of them. When I'm scrolling on the screen..
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Yea, I think that's the problem since the cpu is designed to go to 2.8GHz on the main cores. For whatever reason mine were never going above 1.7. I'm hoping some custom ROMs and kernels will resolve this issue.

Terrible performance after Galaxy S8 SM-G950U One UI/Pie update

Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.

Factory reset or full wipe after updating to a new firmware. Also, do not restore Google apps, just start from a scratch.

I also have serious lag, it feels like a budget phone. I've had this phone since it launched, and installed every update without precaution. This is the first time experiencing these issues.
Frame rate is terrible, especially while scrolling. Delays in pressing buttons or launching apps have grown from milliseconds to sometimes two or three seconds. No other problems(aside from poor design choices). It feels like aggressive power throttling, not memory issues.
As soon as I saw that so much manual power management has been replaced by a "learning" system, I'm skeptical that the usual fixes will do anything for my problems, especially considering there is no other malfunction. Anyone else?
G950U

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Samsung Galaxy s8 SM-G950W. Yes. Ever since the update, my Samsung is losing files., running slow and unable to use previously used apps. Substranum, fonts etc.

It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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Well, that's what I was waiting to hear. If ppl aren't universally having the issue, then a factory reset may cure the problem. I'll give it a try soon.

Yes i just got bad performance after installing pie (custom rom, so i always factory reset or it wont work) but yeah after 14 days my phone start to slowing down like old smartphone and the apps is not starting correctly (e.g i must start magisk manually or the root wont work (the app cant detect if phone is rooted even when magisk hide is off)).
I try the LightROM and ALEXIS and both have this problem (performance way worse on lightrom). I know this isnt their fault but the samsung fault (maybe because its early relase? Or...).
Note : performance is normal in the first day, but after 14-30 days the phone start to acting weirdly (the apps behave weirdly) dunno why.
Btw i use SM-G950FD

After restarting about 5 times, then manually clearing cache partition, I was able to get smooth performance. Unfortunately, I still have to restart at least once a day to prevent lagging animation. This is with light usage: streaming, facebook, email.
I turned on "reduce animations" in advanced features, and set the animation scales to 1.5 with dev options. This seems to help prolong smooth operation, but I still have to restart daily. Next step is factory reset, I have a lot to backup...

fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag

Mine has an issue of having the fingerprint not working after it was changed. I have to do one of the following:
1. Restart and boot via safe mode then if it works, reboot again
2. Restore Settings from synced backup
3. Reset Settings
So much of a hassle.... I am thinking of rooting this soon.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Had the same problem so flashed official firmware (for my carrier, downloaded from sammobile) with Odin. This part can be done without of rooting your phone.
Do this first (back up your data before as clear flash will delete everything), and test after if it works well. If not, root it (https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535) and install adaway from xda labs.
If you root the phone or install TWRP, e-fuse will break and you cannot go back after that. Warranty will be void and the Samsung fit app won't work anymore.
Fortunately, there are workarounds on a rooted phone (https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv) so that is not a big deal, at least for me.
Not sure when you root it if wave pay services will work so do some research first.

an-_-dro said:
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
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Has your lag subsided after time? Mine appears after a night's sleep. It never fails: Restart in the morning, smooth scrolling all day. Next morning, laggy, stuttering scrolling until I restart again. I've uninstalled all unused apps and left power mode on high performance. No change. As soon as I wake up, animation lags like a budget phone. Everything else is reliable, just not the animation.
Of course, I don't actually know what's going on, but I'm willing to bet that this new power management system that we can't control is to blame. If I have to go through all the odin, etc steps, I may just roll back to oreo. Pie is prettier, but I want my smooth operation back.

comnut said:
My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
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S10e gets similar reception to my A8(2018). When I got the A8 I had a S8 before that, and i don't remember there being any difference in signal. I live in poor signal area, so if a phone had bad signal, I'd probably remember because I owuldn't have any signal at all.

This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.

J450N79 said:
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.

DrivenKeys said:
Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk

totally not satisfied with the Pie update, I wish I did not upgrade my fast S8.....
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A510F met Tapatalk

350Rocket said:
I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
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Wow! It's sad to hear an 8gb phone would still have the same issue. I wonder if this has to do with power management. Perhaps it's squeezing a tiny percentage of battery life out of saving some frames. It drives me crazy and gives me a headache. I wish they'd provide a simple switch for whatever this is.
This os feels like they ventured into breaking what works in an endless quest to fix what wasn't broken. Perhaps some team of programmers is celebrating minute improvements, but it's coming at the expense of the consumer, who never signed up to be the guinea pig. Each update seems to remove or break basic reliability and functionality that we paid for. I feel like I paid a premium price to become a software tester.

So reboots don't seem to fix the lag I'm experiencing when opening and closing certain apps. This phone was plenty fast before for me. Other issues are present now too. Auto adaptive display brightness doesn't work as well. I also really think it's sheet that you can't disable GPS and have the battery saving mode anymore! WTF Samsung.