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Official Froyo Weak Haptic Feedback

EXTREMELY weak vibrations, go to your settings->sound->vibration intesity and feel it on max. Then press any of the 4 buttons on the bottom, you should be able to tell the difference. Anyone know a fix to it?

Same issue here. KA6 build.

ikevinnyii said:
EXTREMELY weak vibrations, go to your settings->sound->vibration intesity and feel it on max. Then press any of the 4 buttons on the bottom, you should be able to tell the difference. Anyone know a fix to it?
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i wouldnt say that the froyo update release today thru kies is official or anything as it was an involuntary update and most likely not final. i'm pretty sure TMO CMO decided it was a good move to provide something to help calm furious users.
but anyways to fix this, it involves a simple code value change to those who actually know how to code.

is there currently a rom that doesnt have this problem?? last roms i flashed had this problem +others and i went back to stock

well lets get someone in here who knows the code! i've had the issue since i started flashing custom roms.
Come on baby! Lets get some heavy vibrations up in this here cell phone!
brian_v3ntura said:
but anyways to fix this, it involves a simple code value change to those who actually know how to code.
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The haptic feedback is weak in every 2.2 ROM I've used (and on JL1, it was totally nonfunctional).
It was present in Eclair ROMs, but still very weak compared to what it feels like in the Settings menu (and extremely weak compared to other phones). Sometimes I miss calls or texts because the weak vibration.
Typing is a little harder with such weak haptic feedback, too...

synaesthetic said:
The haptic feedback is weak in every 2.2 ROM I've used (and on JL1, it was totally nonfunctional).
It was present in Eclair ROMs, but still very weak compared to what it feels like in the Settings menu (and extremely weak compared to other phones). Sometimes I miss calls or texts because the weak vibration.
Typing is a little harder with such weak haptic feedback, too...
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this is true.

Not too big of an issue for me, I don't even keep it on max level.

Yes it is weaker

Sdobron said:
Not too big of an issue for me, I don't even keep it on max level.
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Same,having it on at max just eats more battery.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Anyone found a fix yet? I always have a charger within reach so I don't mind the battery hit.

I've noticed that mine makes a strange noise noise when it vibrates as well. Anyone else experience that?

yeah kinda like an old super mario sound lol

Thats what happens when the phone is made of plastuc.
Yes, i'm serious.
That doesnt happen on e.g. A blackberry oe hd3, but it happens a lot on phones with plastic casings...
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It's probably weaker to conserve battery but with it being like this for all 2.2 roms, it was probably intentional. Look in the i9000 forum for complaints and I'm sure you will find many suggesting that it is normal.

heygrl said:
It's probably weaker to conserve battery but with it being like this for all 2.2 roms, it was probably intentional. Look in the i9000 forum for complaints and I'm sure you will find many suggesting that it is normal.
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That's right .... having it on through out the system, even on the keyboard will drain your battery .... its no cause for concern ...

and for some people that's an obvious and acceptable drawback. anyone have a fix?
dan0zone said:
That's right .... having it on through out the system, even on the keyboard will drain your battery .... its no cause for concern ...
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jdub1911 said:
and for some people that's an obvious and acceptable drawback. anyone have a fix?
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But its there, its not like they took out, you're the same ones that were crying about the battery life, they found some areas to improve on ...like the strength of the vibration amongst others.... what is the issue ....

I don't think the OP was concerned about his battery life, I think he was concerned about weak haptics.
I updated and have the same problem as him and and a a few other people. I generally keep my haptics set to a low level because I consider them overpowering, but since this new update I can barely feel them. Furthermore, once I go into 'settings > sound > vibration intensity' to make them more powerful I get a strange squeaking noise every time my phone vibrates and the vibrations get no stronger.
I highly doubt this happens because of the plastic construction, unless 2.1 changes what the phone is made out of.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

kadashti said:
I don't think the OP was concerned about his battery life, I think he was concerned about weak haptics.
I updated and have the same problem as him and ana a few other people. I generally keep my haptics set to a low level because I consider them overpowering, but since this new update I can barely feel them. Furthermore, once I go into 'settings > sound > vibration intensity' to make them more powerful I get a strange squeaking noise every time my phone vibrates and the vibrations get no stronger.
I highly doubt this happens because of the plastic construction, unless 2.1 changes what the phone is made out of.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I think I read what the post said. I think I know what I said. I said it was probably intentional like you know.. the change from a blue data network icon to a gray one. Not being able to feel it is an exaggeration.

[Q] Haptic/vibration issue?

Without another unit to reference, I have to think something is up with my vibration motor. With haptic enabled on button press, I can't feel anything. I hear a very low, almost inaudible sound that could be the motor trying to work -- but I feel nothing.
How's your haptic response? Is it very pronounced or almost unnoticeable? I want to say I felt it much more during initial setup..
Also when switching the ringer from silent to vibrate, I do feel it (and hear it) but it sounds almost like a dying motor; very weak and unhealthy.
Am I off base here?
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I've had my N4 for 3 days now and haptic response is as strong as it was at the start. I am constantly pleased by it since it was poor on my GNex! Vibration in silent mode is great as well so no unhealthy sound here. Sorry to be so happy with mine!

Puzzlegirl said:
I've had my N4 for 3 days now and haptic response is as strong as it was at the start. I am constantly pleased by it since it was poor on my GNex! Vibration in silent mode is great as well so no unhealthy sound here. Sorry to be so happy with mine!
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Yea, that's what I was afraid of.. going to try a restore (although I don't have much faith..) and see where that gets me. Short of that, guess I'm going to have to call Google for a RMA.

Sounds like a hardware issue.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

horr1blek1tten said:
Sounds like a hardware issue.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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it's under advanced option inside android keyboard settings...keypress vibration settings.....1mmseconds and up

deckard1984 said:
it's under advanced option inside android keyboard settings...keypress vibration settings.....1mmseconds and up
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Nah, man. Vibration comes and goes, its system-wide not just keyboard. I already have a replacement on the way.

magn2o said:
Nah, man. Vibration comes and goes, its system-wide not just keyboard. I already have a replacement on the way.
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sorry to hear mine was very low and thought it was a possible hardware issue, but discovered advanced options and cranked up the haptic and it works fine...sorry i couldn;t help!

Opinions on Call Quality?

Received my one a few days ago and other than not being able to remove the power saver notification I love this phone.
I do have one concern though. I'm not sure it's a problem but what does everyone think about the call quality? Comparing it to my Sensation it almost sounds like the person on the other end is speaking into a cup.
I haven't had a new phone in quite some time so it might just be something different.. or it might be a problem. What's everyone's opinions?

ATT version here on their network and I think it's the best call quality I've had on a phone, I've used the Galaxy S3 and iPhone 5 weeks before this aswell so, *shrug*

Du22ty said:
Received my one a few days ago and other than not being able to remove the power saver notification I love this phone.
I do have one concern though. I'm not sure it's a problem but what does everyone think about the call quality? Comparing it to my Sensation it almost sounds like the person on the other end is speaking into a cup.
I haven't had a new phone in quite some time so it might just be something different.. or it might be a problem. What's everyone's opinions?
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i have spent about 70 minutes talking on the phone since i got it yesterday afternoon, didn't notice any call quality issues. comparing it to galaxy note 2, nexus 4, and iphone 4.

Compared to the iPhone 5 on iMobile - night and day. HTC is superior.

good question. There is a lot of hissing going on at times. discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235800&highlight=hissing
Hope it gets sorted, this could possibly have the worse call quality I've ever experienced.

Du22ty said:
Received my one a few days ago and other than not being able to remove the power saver notification I love this phone.
I do have one concern though. I'm not sure it's a problem but what does everyone think about the call quality? Comparing it to my Sensation it almost sounds like the person on the other end is speaking into a cup.
I haven't had a new phone in quite some time so it might just be something different.. or it might be a problem. What's everyone's opinions?
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I had that phone and the call quiality was awesome, so it must be a problem in your device.

Assuming they are using what Nokia uses then it should be quite good.

Me too, compared with iphone 5, HTC one is realy good and loud

Thanks for the replies. When my local T-Mobile store gets them in stock I'll go in and try and do some comparisons.

To remove power saver notification just long press on the notification and go into the app info and force stop it! This will only stop the notification from appearing and will not stop anything else!
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

I use my phone extensively for work, and sometimes I take calls in the office (very low background noise) and sometimes in the loading bays (where there's always some sort of moving/construction/drilling etc). Today, while in the loading bay calling up a vendor, the vendor on the other side of the line commented that there were "like no background sounds" and asked me if I was in the office.
This is coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I've been very pleased with call quality so far.

Du22ty said:
Thanks for the replies. When my local T-Mobile store gets them in stock I'll go in and try and do some comparisons.
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By the way, to remove power saver, go to settings, app, all apps, power, untick notifications.

jlevy73 said:
By the way, to remove power saver, go to settings, app, all apps, power, untick notifications.
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Yeah I tried that but the tick is grayed out.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbeb0une90skp6c/2013-04-23 12.14.54.png

Du22ty said:
Yeah I tried that but the tick is grayed out.
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Are you rooted?

jlevy73 said:
Are you rooted?
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I am and it's greyed out for me also. Running ARHD 5.1

PapaRhino said:
I am and it's greyed out for me also. Running ARHD 5.1
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Interesting... I'm on Trickdroid and was able to remove it. Wish I knew another way. Sorry guys.

Thinking of Getting Axon 7

I'm thinking of getting the ZTE Axon 7 and have a couple of questions.
Where does wifi calling on T-Mobile stand? I've seem some threads with a rumor that the phone will have it with a future update. How likely is it that it will eventually get wifi calling? Any idea how soon?
I thought I read something about the notification light only having 2 colors. Is that true? That sounds like a problem. I really like using LED manager to have different custom colors for different apps.

lexluthor said:
I'm thinking of getting the ZTE Axon 7 and have a couple of questions.
Where does wifi calling on T-Mobile stand? I've seem some threads with a rumor that the phone will have it with a future update. How likely is it that it will eventually get wifi calling? Any idea how soon?
I thought I read something about the notification light only having 2 colors. Is that true? That sounds like a problem. I really like using LED manager to have different custom colors for different apps.
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- WiFi calling will be implemented in future or this coming update.
- Notification Lights there's more than what you have mention and if not mistaken light color are Red-Green-Blue and I guess 1 more if not mistaken.

DrakenFX said:
- WiFi calling will be implemented in future or this coming update.
- Notification Lights there's more than what you have mention and if not mistaken light color are Red-Green-Blue and I guess 1 more if not mistaken.
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Sounds like WiFi calling is coming soon enough then. And that's the t-mobile implementation? Wifi calling will be used for calling and SMS/MMS too, like on other phones?
4 colors would probably suffice. Even on a full RGB light it's tough to tell the colors apart more than that.

lexluthor said:
Sounds like WiFi calling is coming soon enough then. And that's the t-mobile implementation? Wifi calling will be used for calling and SMS/MMS too, like on other phones?
4 colors would probably suffice. Even on a full RGB light it's tough to tell the colors apart more than that.
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- yes will be T-Mobile compatible and I don't know about SMS/MMS, we just have to wait and see (I'm with T-Mobile as well)

hows the reception on Tmobile network? especially band 12 does? Also, is VOLTE working out of the box? im thinking of getting this on tmobile but not sure how its performing on the network now.

daraj said:
hows the reception on Tmobile network? especially band 12 does? Also, is VOLTE working out of the box? im thinking of getting this on tmobile but not sure how its performing on the network now.
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Reception I'm getting the same or better reception than my previous device (LG G4).
Hope the image can answer you second question. :silly:

DrakenFX said:
Reception I'm getting the same or better reception than my previous device (LG G4).
Hope the image can answer you second question. :silly:
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Excellent. So whats the fuss about the reception issues the phone is having? especially on tmobile!.. im new here but I see that a lot.

daraj said:
Excellent. So whats the fuss about the reception issues the phone is having? especially on tmobile!.. im new here but I see that a lot.
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Been honest I don't know, I'm probably one of the white sheep's in the whole ranch LoL.

So just picked up one on Swappa, since I returned my Note7 and did not feel like jumping to anything else.
So I have a question how bad is the camera in low light? Any other negative feedback you might have?

DrakenFX said:
- Notification Lights there's more than what you have mention and if not mistaken light color are Red-Green-Blue and I guess 1 more if not mistaken.
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Sorry for dump question but where i find it in settings? I have only two colors green and orange.

nathasnajperowa said:
Sorry for dump question but where i find it in settings? I have only two colors green and orange.
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this info was pull using command lines in terminal, i little while ago and like i said ago don't remember the command line right now...was done while looking for thing to make thing for CM 13.

DrakenFX said:
this info was pull using command lines in terminal, i little while ago and like i said ago don't remember the command line right now...was done while looking for thing to make thing for CM 13.
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So do you need to be rooted for this? I may not root?
I guess the notification light doesn't work with Lightflow then?

lexluthor said:
So do you need to be rooted for this? I may not root?
I guess the notification light doesn't work with Lightflow then?
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no you don't need to have root, to use all notification lights,

I wouldn't get the axon ..I am gonna sell mine. They didn't release factory images, if you unlock bootloader and even if you relock you can no longer receive OTA's. Cameras are not so good..battery life isn't good if I'm lucky I get 4hrs sot. The Dolby Atmos system app constantly changes from Your custom setting to the "movie" dull sounding setting if you scroll through any apps with videos. Seems laggy at times with browser. I liked the oneplus 3 far better ..charging is slower on the axon too vs the oneplus 3.

jordy787 said:
I wouldn't get the axon ..I am gonna sell mine. They didn't release factory images, if you unlock bootloader and even if you relock you can no longer receive OTA's. Cameras are not so good..battery life isn't good if I'm lucky I get 4hrs sot. The Dolby Atmos system app constantly changes from Your custom setting to the "movie" dull sounding setting if you scroll through any apps with videos. Seems laggy at times with browser. I liked the oneplus 3 far better ..charging is slower on the axon too vs the oneplus 3.
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If you care about having good speakers, get the Axon. If you don't, get the oneplus. Battery has been excellent for me (consistently over 5 hours SOT over 17 hours), chrome has been very fast, charges plenty fast for most people, build quality is top notch, and mifavor isn't good, but there are workarounds to most of the issues and it's at least fast and stable. I do wish they'd release the factory images, though...
If you think being forced to use the "music" profile on Atmos is bad, just wait until you hear how bad the OnePlus 3s speakers are

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If you care about having good speakers, get the Axon. If you don't, get the oneplus. Battery has been excellent for me (consistently over 5 hours SOT over 17 hours), chrome has been very fast, charges plenty fast for most people, build quality is top notch, and mifavor isn't good, but there are workarounds to most of the issues and it's at least fast and stable. I do wish they'd release the factory images, though...
If you think being forced to use the "music" profile on Atmos is bad, just wait until you hear how bad the OnePlus 3s speakers are
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I don't use phone speaker at all lol I'm talking about Atmos with headphones. OnePlus 3 was far better IMO. I installed Atmos on the oneplus 3 along with Sony Xperia player with EQ

jordy787 said:
I don't use phone speaker at all lol I'm talking about Atmos with headphones. OnePlus 3 was far better IMO. I installed Atmos on the oneplus 3 along with Sony Xperia player with EQ
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Fair enough.

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Fair enough.
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Holy sh*t I just created a separate profile for the main speaker ...I'm blown away I didn't realize the speakers actually sounded that good ..

it looks really cool

jordy787 said:
Holy sh*t I just created a separate profile for the main speaker ...I'm blown away I didn't realize the speakers actually sounded that good ..
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What profile did you make and how? Care to share your settings.

Haptic Feedback & Vibration Increase?

I've had my V20 for over a month now and I personally love this phone and have it set up almost exactly the way I like it (just waiting for Xposed), and maybe it's just me but one thing I've noticed is that haptic feedback is so weak (even set to maximum) it's practically non existent. The vibration levels for notifications aren't too bad especially compared to haptic but imo they still could use an increase, so does anyone know if it would be possible to increase the maximum haptic and vibration levels when rooted? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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jeep447 said:
I've had my V20 for over a month now and I personally love this phone and have it set up almost exactly the way I like it (just waiting for Xposed), and maybe it's just me but one thing I've noticed is that haptic feedback is so weak (even set to maximum) it's practically non existent. The vibration levels for notifications aren't too bad especially compared to haptic but imo they still could use an increase, so does anyone know if it would be possible to increase the maximum haptic and vibration levels when rooted? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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Actually , in turned the vibrate down to about medium. It seems that on high it vibrates very fast and I can't feel it, but when I turned it down I feel it better.
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masondoctorjt said:
Actually , in turned the vibrate down to about medium. It seems that on high it vibrates very fast and I can't feel it, but when I turned it down I feel it better.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I just lowered mine down to try it out and I get what you're saying because idk if it's just in my head but I can already tell a difference while typing this message. I'll give it a try for a while to see if I still notice it over time but it honestly does seem like it made a difference so thanks again for the suggestion, I'd still like to know if there's any way to increase it though because even though what you said seems to have helped it still just feels a little too weak compared to what I'm used to.
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Yeah coming from the note 7 the v20 is very weak unfortunately. I could have heard my note 7 vibrate when on a flat surface from another room lol