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Hello,
I want to buy a smartwatch to fitness + heart bits counter. What can you recommend? What do you think about garmin vivosmart?
What about the Garmin Fenix 3? They've started adding notifications function. And it's own app store, it's got WiFi but not sure what for?
Look nice and isn't cheap :-\ maybe something to 250 euro?
xiaomi band recommanded
Have you tried xiaomimi band before? It is not bad and looks like garmin vivosmart, but price is much cheaper than garmin vivosmart at tinydeal.
I have the fitbit surge. it's a little pricey but it works well enough. You need android kitkat to work with it, and its better if you have lollipop to get all the features working properly.
many of my friends use fitbit and they recommend it
although it is costly
its pedometer function is accurate
it also has a sleep monitor to monitor your sleep patterns
but i am not sure if it has heart rate monitor or not
I want refresh this topic.
Something till around 250 euro.
Battery 14 days or more.
The Polar M400 has some smartwatch features integrated (notifications), but you have to install the polar flow app.
Polar M400 looks very good.
*What are the differences between Polar M400 vs V800 ?
*M400 and V800 are connecting bluetooth with smartphone, its better than ant+ ? Bluetooth needs more power - I thinks so.
* V800 has heart rate monitor ? Or need need heart rate belt ? M400 - Doesn't have ?
*Do I need usb stick for synchronisation data with computer ?
* It is good chose for cross trainer and sometimes running and swimming ?
* Can I configurate all from android app ?
* V800 has HertTouch - what thats mean ?
* It is a good choise, or is something better ?
Basis Peak
The Basis Peak is water resistant to 5ATM, it has constant and pretty accurate HR monitor, measures steps, walking, running, biking and monitors sleep, all automatically without user intervention and has basic notifications for calls, messages and calendar. Battery life ranges between 3 to 5 days. Magnetic charging craddle is very easy to use and seems durable. Screen is high contrast LCD with backlight, always on and perfectly readable on direct sunlight. Fairly good support and regularly updated. Android app has useful information. Also, not sure but I believe it measures skin temperature. Uses standard straps, easy to exchange. Build quality is solid.
Price goes from $150 to $200.
Cons-
Notifications are very basic.
No built in GPS.
Low resolution monochrome screen.
No apps except for the ones included onboard.
Android app has terrible font and background for reading.
The No. 1 S3 is a Chinese round smartwatch. It comes in a couple of colours and both combinations are looking pretty good for the price of the device. This smartwatch costs $59usd and for that money you get a smartwatch that is also a phone. You can use it independently from your phone or with your phone.
The watch itself it's made out of plastic but it does look like it is metalic. A metalic version would have been nice but it would most likely increase the cost.
There is only one button available on the watch and it has a touch screen that it's supposed to be scratch resistant.
the back is removable and you can remove the battery, insert a memory card and a sim card. The 350mah battery is able to keep the watch going for an entire day, but will most definatley not make it thru the next day. This watch is not waterproof. There is also a speaker on the back of the device that it is surprisingly loud. There is also a microphone on the left hand side of the watch in case you want to make any phone calls or record anything.
On one of the straps there is a heart rate monitor that works very well, however it doesn't have a function to randomly measure your heart rate thru-out the day.
If you use the watch as a smartwatch there is an app that you can download and that way all your phone notifications get to the watch. Some of the health functions of the watch like the heart rate, or the pedometer will sync on the watch.
The watchfaces are quite limited and there is no way to get new ones or customize the ones that are available.
The apps that come on the watch are also the only apps that you can get, but i believe that there are enough for the little screen that the watch has. You can change the music playing on your phone from the watch, take pictures from the watch and small things like that.
I ended up using the watch as a watch, not as a smartwatch, just because i find the pedometer and heart rate monitor useful during runs and workouts.
Overall, for $58.99usd it is a very decent watch. Check out the link in the video's description if you want to check this watch out.
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I have had my S3 for a couple of weeks now and for the most part it is a very nice watch for the price. My greatest issue with the watch is its inability to use a paired Bluetooth headset to make and receive calls, or even listen to music (I should also indicate that a dedicated music player to play internal music files is not included). This is an extremely inconvenient oversight, as when using the watch with a SIM card, most people feel foolish talking into the watch and would much prefer doing so via a Bluetooth headset.
This said, here are some pros/ cons with the S3:
Pros:
- Price
- Quality build
- Functionality (even though many of the apps are quite flakey, especially the vibration massage one!)
- Display
- Bluetooth and GSM reception
Cons:
- Battery life on the low side (about 8-9 hours of average use)
- No Bluetooth headset pairing
For $60 USD, the No.1 S3 gives you a nice looking watch that does not scream "geek", at least until you have to make or receive a call through it.
Full review made by my German Partner (i just tried to translate it)
We got a 10€ discount coupon for one store included
hands-on video included.
English: http://androidwearpro.com/1135/no-1-s3-smartwatch-video-review-with-discount-coupon/
German: http://androidwearpro.com/de/1116/no-1-s3-smartwatch-mit-2g-telefonie-eine-runde-sache/
Video Link (included in both articles too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6U5F-9dPvU
probstc said:
I have had my S3 for a couple of weeks now and for the most part it is a very nice watch for the price. My greatest issue with the watch is its inability to use a paired Bluetooth headset to make and receive calls, or even listen to music (I should also indicate that a dedicated music player to play internal music files is not included). This is an extremely inconvenient oversight, as when using the watch with a SIM card, most people feel foolish talking into the watch and would much prefer doing so via a Bluetooth headset.
This said, here are some pros/ cons with the S3:
Pros:
- Price
- Quality build
- Functionality (even though many of the apps are quite flakey, especially the vibration massage one!)
- Display
- Bluetooth and GSM reception
Cons:
- Battery life on the low side (about 8-9 hours of average use)
- No Bluetooth headset pairing
For $60 USD, the No.1 S3 gives you a nice looking watch that does not scream "geek", at least until you have to make or receive a call through it.
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Hi guys,
just wondering how the app fundo wear works? Is it possible to track the distance on a map like runtastic or similar activating it from the smartwatch? Like i click on the watch "start" and it will runthe session with gps activated from the phone app?
Thanks in advance!!!
Looks great, but functionality limited
cthulhu79 said:
Hi guys,
just wondering how the app fundo wear works? Is it possible to track the distance on a map like runtastic or similar activating it from the smartwatch? Like i click on the watch "start" and it will runthe session with gps activated from the phone app?
Thanks in advance!!!
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I regret to say that the Fundo app does very little other than set what apps can send notifications to your smartwatch and install a very limited number of additional apps. There are no map tracking apps (there is an inaccurate pedometer though). I also found that linking my smartphone to the smartwatch with the Fundo app completely screwed up my other Bluetooth connections (especially with my cars) and after discovering this, I quickly uninstalled the app. Shortly thereafter I sold the smartwatch to someone who was more interested in the looks than the substance - I am done with extremely cheap and limited functionality smartwatches.
probstc said:
I regret to say that the Fundo app does very little other than set what apps can send notifications to your smartwatch and install a very limited number of additional apps. There are no map tracking apps (there is an inaccurate pedometer though). I also found that linking my smartphone to the smartwatch with the Fundo app completely screwed up my other Bluetooth connections (especially with my cars) and after discovering this, I quickly uninstalled the app. Shortly thereafter I sold the smartwatch to someone who was more interested in the looks than the substance - I am done with extremely cheap and limited functionality smartwatches.
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Thanks million for the heads up probstc [emoji16]
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S3 and T3
What is the difference between S3 and T3? Are they same thing?
Ok, so I've had this GS7A a few days now, did one or two full resets to get used to what I could disable with Package Disabler Pro (worth every penny, seriously, since we may more than likely never see a working root) and I have to say that I am pretty damned impressed with the battery life. Yes we all know this magnificent beast has a 4000 mAh battery in it so that has something to do with the lifespan obviously, but I wanted to post about my experience and perhaps try and stir up some discussion since this subforum is basically dead for the most part.
I know most discussion is over in the GS7 thread since it is the same hardware in a different case but even so - it's actually not the same device since it has a smaller 3000 mAh capacity battery so, if anyone is interested in sharing their battery life info and experience by all means do it.
A caveat:
Right now I don't actually have cellular service with this GS7A because it's currently still carrier locked to AT&T and I haven't gotten around to purchasing an unlock code. I'm not an AT&T customer, never have been, and since I got this device from a trade done through craigslist the person I made the deal with wasn't the original owner - he did state he found the phone in a casino bathroom here in Las Vegas (that sort of thing happens hundreds of times a day here, seriously) and yes the IMEI is blacklisted so I don't know if the original owner reported it as lost or stolen and since the blacklist system doesn't differentiate then it doesn't matter anyway.
Having said that I will state that I use Google Voice for all my "phone calls" and SMS/text duties these days so I don't actually need cellular service as long as I have Wi-Fi. Google Hangouts handles all that just fine so, I'm stating this here so you'll understand that I don't use the cellular radio at all, the GS7A stays in Airplane Mode constantly and with Wi-Fi enabled (and yes Wi-Fi is always on).
Yesterday I did quite a bit in terms of actually using the GS7A: I listened to a lot of "police scanner" streams using Scanner Radio Pro, I watched the entire Presidential debate on the GS7A using CNNGo, I watched maybe 30 minutes of video on Periscope (Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert), listened to my own music (Opus 128Kbps encodes) using GoneMAD for maybe 3 hours total since the last charge, listened to a radio station from back home in Virginia using TuneIn Radio for maybe 2 hours, read a lot of articles using Flipboard, and various other things including hitting the Play Store to check for updates as well as checking Gmail maybe a few dozen times during the day. I also did two runs of Geekbench 4 and two runs of Antutu during this period before these screenshots were taken so those were a hit on the battery for max CPU/GPU usage for several minutes each as well.
Also, I keep the screen brightness at about 40-45% on the slider, but I did go out for a walk yesterday lasting maybe 30 minutes and set it on Auto to compensate, probably had the screen on about 5-8 minutes in that time at ~full brightness.
So understanding all that here's what I've got currently from screenshots I just took like a minute ago:
Looking at that kind of battery life, just shy of 2 full days and barely cracking the 50% point, I can guess that if I did have actual cellular service I could easily get 1.5-2 days use of this device regularly which is truly astonishing. The last phone I had that could give me battery life even close to this was a ZTE Zmax which literally gave me 10+ hours of SOT on a regular basis (the 1280x720 display on that really saved a lot of battery life, and the Super AMOLED on this GS7A probably helps considerably as well).
I am truly impressed by this, and I have to wonder what kind of actual battery life I could get with a) cellular service working normally and also b) root so I can do even more tweaking as well as c) an unlocked bootloader to allow for a custom kernel.
And I haven't even enabled the Power Saver or Ultra Power Saver modes at all.
So, what's your battery life like using the Galaxy S7 Active? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
EDIT:
Finally died and shut itself off but I watched a few TV shows off my Play Store Movies and TV account to keep the screen on and the Wi-Fi active and here's the final result - I never kicked in the Power or Ultra Power saving modes, I simply let it go till it shut itself off:
Mind you if I had just continued to use the GS7A in a typical fashion with audio streaming, Flipboard reading, etc, and not continuous screen on video viewing as well as the Wi-Fi I'm sure it would last 3 solid days without any problems so again I should (or anyone really) should be able to get an actual solid full day of use from this device reaching possibly into the 1.5 to 2 day range with cellular working normally.
Damned impressive stuff, it really is.
Just a followup. I wanted to see how far I could take this battery life thing so, I decided to do a full video run meaning:
- charge the battery to 100%
- set brightness at ~50% (since the way Touchwiz works it's hit or miss but close enough to the middle of the brightness slider)
- start playing a video in MX Player Pro with hardware acceleration enabled and the video on a loop
- give it a few seconds to get moving
- disconnect from the AC adapter
and then wait till I get to the 5% point for the battery.
So where did I end up? Well, here's the 50% point I just crossed a few moments ago:
Pretty damned awesome indeed. Yes I realize that hardly anyone is going to sit around watching videos for 8+ hours, let alone the potential 16 hours I might actually achieve (and again I don't use the power/ultra power saving modes, at least not once since I got this Active). Here are some details on the actual video I'm playing:
- it's TimeScapes which is pretty damned awesome itself
- it's the 1440p version of TimeScapes, at 2560x1440 resolution so the entire Super AMOLED display gets a full workout, every last pixel without fail
- it's about 48 minutes 21 seconds long (again, I have MX Player Pro set to loop it over and over)
- it's an MP4 container with the h.264 video stream with stereo AAC audio
Here's the MediaInfo for those that might be interested:
Code:
General
Complete name : Z:\TimeScapes\TimeScapes 2560x1440.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/mp41)
File size : 6.19 GiB
Duration : 48mn 21s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 18.3 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
©TIM : 00:00:00:00
©TSC : 24000
©TSZ : 1001
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 48mn 21s
Bit rate : 18.0 Mbps
Width : 2 560 pixels
Height : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) fps
Original frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.204
Stream size : 6.08 GiB (98%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Color range : Limited
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 48mn 21s
Source duration : 48mn 21s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 317 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 416 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 110 MiB (2%)
Source stream size : 110 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
I intend to let this one keep going till I get to the ~5% point and then take another set of screenshots and see just how far this thing will last and I'll update this post when I'm done. Wi-Fi is always on, Location is always on (high accuracy), my Google services are active (pun intended) and I get notifications from apps just for the record as well - I do check some things every 30 minutes or so (Flipboard updates, Hangouts messages, and some other stuff) that usually just takes a couple of seconds then I go right back to the video as well.
The Energizer bunny apparently has nothing on this Galaxy S7 Active.
Ok, here's the final results. When I got to 5% the screen dimmed automagically so I stopped the video then restarted it which kicked it back to the normal brightness (roughly 50% as stated above) and then I figured I'd push it about as far as I could meaning 1%.
Amazing... just shy of 15.5 hours SOT
I figure if I did this again and lowered the brightness to 30-35% I'd easily get the 16 hours and more, probably 17-ish sounds about right. Regardless for me, I've never seen any device get this kind of direct battery life but then again today's testing was very limited - strictly video playback of that 1440p video and not much else in terms of actual use. I probably used the Active less than 5 minutes of the nearly fifteen and a half hours for checking email, Hangouts, and of course looking at the battery stats to take a screenshot when needed.
The Galaxy S7 Active should get more love, it really should, it's sad that so many people dismiss it outright just because of looks. I'd take something like this device over pretty much anything else on the market today, and with battery life like this I'd still be using it long after other people's pretty shiny glossy slippery devices are long dead with no charge.
I might do this test again using a 10-bit h.265 HEVC 1080p movie here (Deadpool which is an awesome flick) and see how it handles that in terms of battery life and decoding, who knows.
Excellent performance, finding myself loving this phone !
How many charges/ days from new did you guys find that it took for the battery to settle in? I took my S7A off charge when I woke up at 2.30am this morning and 5 hours later when I got out of bed it had gone through 20% of its battery whilst sitting there screen off doing absolutely nothing.
I was horrified and I don't know if I'm worrying over nothing, I'm just a bit jumpy because although it is brand new, I bought it from ebay so my return window is extremely small. If it has a cooked/ defective battery I need to return it ASAP.
Of course I am aware that new phones take quite a few days, even weeks or months until they reach their optimum battery functionality but 20% in 5 hours idle seems absolutely crazy.
i would see what the main drain is in the battery info, as at night mine would barely drop a few percent ! ..
also, which country are you in ? have you ran package disabler and took down a few sill apps yet ?
maybe that you had autoupdate and was on WiFi so it was doing loadsa updates during night (as that is actually a setting!)
whats it been like since ... s this question poses more questions than ansers
Seems like I've got it sorted now. Only dropped 2% last night which is pretty good considering I have quite a lot of stuff left turned on.
I had already used package disabler pro to clean up all of the AT&T mess; it turns out the culprit was my MiBand and the software it came with. I've had no problems on any of my other phones, but on this device it seems that the apps that the MiBand needs to keep working properly were preventing the device from dozing or entering deep sleep properly.
Once I disabled them, the overnight battery drain went away. This is a real bummer because I do like the miband 1s, so I'm now on the lookout for an always-on fitness band with good battery life that is properly compatible with the S7 Active.
The miband 1s could not pair with this phone 100% correctly as a standard BLE device so possibly this was part of the problem.
BTW, Great Stuff br0adband - excellent job on the testing, really in depth study. I knew I was enjoying the way the phone had been working but hadn't tried any testing. I came from the Note series... had two Note 4s, one with Verizon, one with AT&T, a Note 5, which I still own (thank God) and two Note 7s, an original and a replacement, both turned in, damned it Samsung. I went back to the Note 5 on both occasions of the Note 7 fiasco and on both occasions, immediately noticed the battery life as the Note 7 also had fantastic battery life, until of course they'd explode! The last time I ran the Note 5 for about six weeks and couldn't handle it any more... it seemed like I was charging it more than I was using it. I went to get an S7 Edge, only the edge functions were driving me crazy. My AT&T rep said "Hey, have you seen this - you love rugged phones and long battery life right?" That was it! End of story... S7Active Owner!
Just completed a battery test with actual, normal usage. Keeping in mind I have a work phone which I use to make the majority of my calls, the S7A was just there for my personal web browsing and personal calls which amounted to about 10 calls and 25 SMS or so.
Force gmail sync set to once every 30 minutes, greenify installed and working properly, airplane mode NOT used at night so 4G radio was active the entire time, bluetooth on the entire time but only connected whilst driving.
I was hoping to crack 4 days, and I'm sure I could if I were to stop using the device but that's not what I was doing here. 3 days + 1 night is still pretty good for an unrooted phone with factory kernel.
Battery life is good on this device because of the battery size. Your testing is not accurate for real use because of the radios being turned off. But those are good results to see. The problem is the cell radio takes up much of the battery life just at idle, which is frustrating cause can't really disable this as a phone. Plus if your using bluetooth for smart watch or vehicle connectivity even as LE it uses a lot of battery. For the guys using package disabler which items do you think or recommend disablng that have helped the most?
DEVLIN7 said:
Battery life is good on this device because of the battery size. Your testing is not accurate for real use because of the radios being turned off. But those are good results to see. The problem is the cell radio takes up much of the battery life just at idle, which is frustrating cause can't really disable this as a phone. Plus if your using bluetooth for smart watch or vehicle connectivity even as LE it uses a lot of battery. For the guys using package disabler which items do you think or recommend disablng that have helped the most?
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I don't know what you are doing but something is wrong if bluetooth is causing extra battery drain. I have a Gear S2 connected constantly and headphones for multiple hours a day and my battery life is outstanding.
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I don't know what you are doing but something is wrong if bluetooth is causing extra battery drain. I have a Gear S2 connected constantly and headphones for multiple hours a day and my battery life is outstanding.
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Couldn't tell you why but when using Moto 360 for a day Bluetooth is almost always listed under battery stats. Maybe it's Android wear..? Bluetooth isn't top drainer but it does contribute..
Hey guys - I need some advice.
I recently rooted my phone - then upon the release of Nougat for the GS7A I decided to kick the glitchy root to the curb and go with Nougat. I absolutely love it, and am getting fantastic battery life without any modifications.... For starters I have a few basic questions:
1) Greenify - I have the paid version but have never really used it without Root before... reading around I seem to be getting conflicting information on the benefit of using Greenify knowing that Nougat has Doze, and Doze on the Go built in..... That said - since installing Nougat I have been using Greenify. I also enabled all of the added features through ADB to unlock agressive doze etc.... Someone please enlighten me - should I even be using this? Anything to avoid or use in particular in doing so?
2) Package Disabler Pro - I do not have this app, but it seems to be similar to like a non-root version of Titanium Backup for removing/freezing apps.... Should I purchase this? is there any reason not to? Also - I've seen about 15 different versions all with similar names and all exclusively for Samsung phones... which one to buy?
3) Assuming the above is a worthy purchase - which apps should I disable? Which are the biggest drains?
4) I've seen several battery stat tracking apps - which is best for tracking usage/battery hog apps?
Here's the kicker. I want to be able to use my phone to its full functionality. I have the Gear S2 watch (use it constantly), I like using Samsung Pay as much as I can, I Bluetooth to my car when driving for music/calls, I use Amazon Music/Play Music/Spotify often in the gym/running - what I am saying is: I am not shooting for 16 days of battery life with 14 hours of SOT - and otherwise zero functionality of why we purchase these smart devices to begin with. I am simply trying to maximize battery life while using my phone to the fullest - by whatever means necessary. All of this in mind - anyone else like me with similar goals that can enlighten me as to you suggestions to meet the above requirements?
I appreciate any help!!
1)Can't really answer this one; I'm using it but haven't noticed as much difference as I did under previous version (where I had root + xposed).
2)The one called Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) by policedeveloper.
3)Here is a list of apps I have disabled: Please note, I am not on AT&T. You might need to retain some of these if you need that functionality; to me it is all trash:
AT&T App Select, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Locker, AT&T protect plus, AT&T Remote support, Briefing, Device help, directv, drivemode, email, facebook, facebook app installer, facebook app manager, google play movies & tv, Hangouts, myAT&T, Remote, Samsung Pay (my banking app has its own NFC wallet functionality which overrides android pay), Smart limits, Usage Manager, YP, Lookout.
There's probably a few more that I need to get around to but I've had no dramas or FC issues after disabling all of the above.
4)I have got GSam battery which is good once it has been through a few charge cycles but I still find it gives some pretty wacky figures sometimes eg. Screen on time. I'm not really sure if any of the apps like this are necessary as the new battery stats gives you a decent amount of info once you drill down; it is just organised better in these apps is all.
Wakelock Detector Lite needs a bit of config through ADB but will give you a picture of what is waking up your phone and eating battery. Unfortunately, without root there isn't all that much you can do about it. Bluetooth_timer and Bluetooth_alarm issues are still present in Nougat and still waking the phone far more often than is necessary.
5)Keep your screen brightness down and turn off wifi when you don't need it, check your phone via your watch where possible and consider forcing the device to use WCDMA if that is an option for you. Fully waking up the device + having screen on is when your battery gets eaten alive. I find the S7A to be a pretty good workhorse as is. The built in medium battery saving setting might interest you as well, the extreme one is a step too far but you can still use as normal on the moderate battery saving mode.
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1)Can't really answer this one; I'm using it but haven't noticed as much difference as I did under previous version (where I had root + xposed).
2)The one called Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) by policedeveloper.
3)Here is a list of apps I have disabled: Please note, I am not on AT&T. You might need to retain some of these if you need that functionality; to me it is all trash:
AT&T App Select, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Locker, AT&T protect plus, AT&T Remote support, Briefing, Device help, directv, drivemode, email, facebook, facebook app installer, facebook app manager, google play movies & tv, Hangouts, myAT&T, Remote, Samsung Pay (my banking app has its own NFC wallet functionality which overrides android pay), Smart limits, Usage Manager, YP, Lookout.
There's probably a few more that I need to get around to but I've had no dramas or FC issues after disabling all of the above.
4)I have got GSam battery which is good once it has been through a few charge cycles but I still find it gives some pretty wacky figures sometimes eg. Screen on time. I'm not really sure if any of the apps like this are necessary as the new battery stats gives you a decent amount of info once you drill down; it is just organised better in these apps is all.
Wakelock Detector Lite needs a bit of config through ADB but will give you a picture of what is waking up your phone and eating battery. Unfortunately, without root there isn't all that much you can do about it. Bluetooth_timer and Bluetooth_alarm issues are still present in Nougat and still waking the phone far more often than is necessary.
5)Keep your screen brightness down and turn off wifi when you don't need it, check your phone via your watch where possible and consider forcing the device to use WCDMA if that is an option for you. Fully waking up the device + having screen on is when your battery gets eaten alive. I find the S7A to be a pretty good workhorse as is. The built in medium battery saving setting might interest you as well, the extreme one is a step too far but you can still use as normal on the moderate battery saving mode.
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Thanks for sharing your experience and advice with me! So far I've got about 70 or so packages disabled and I have not used Greenify (yet) - only the built in doze app settings in Nougat.
I am still using Samsung Pay, Gear S2 watch, Bluetooth in my car/headphones, and haven't had a single issue with functionality yet.
The android system is now way down on the battery usage list and I just pulled 6 hours SOT, over 42 hours since the first charge.
Pretty damn good start and looks like I may have succeeded in my goals here! I will be running a few more battery cycles and tracking data with and without Greenify - and once I have more information I plan to start a thread on this for others to hopefully help educate others with similar goals.
I recently got a Samsung s7 but after some time I realise the battery is draining fast and taking long to charge, it can be 100% and the green light will never pop. After full charge it reduces within minutes of being idle. Sometimes it can stay at a certain percentage for a very long time before reducing again. Guys I need help to solve this problem. Thanks
Not all that good battery life.
I use:
Screen, ON, Auto - Full Bright.
Samsung Fit, ON
Google Maps, ON (Offline)
WiFi, ON (Connected to GoPro)
4G, ON
3½ Hours......
I have a TOMO M4 battery pack with TESLA 18650 cells from a 90D Module as a battery supply for my trail rides.
The phone is capable, but still is underpowered for its build and what it can accomplish.
This needs a case with a built in battery, this truly would make it a rugged phone for the outdoor enthusiast, same as the S8 now has.
I wonder if the S8 Active will get a battery case?! This would defo be my next purchase....
OR .... do the Oukitel K10000 build to it.
Trying to take a picture here from the mobile direct...
Not bad... better then my Samsung galaxy s3...I got 12 hours at best but those lithium ion batteries drain and die over time sadly....
This is with the weird work around root too... its getting the Jon done thus far...lets see how she finishes with regular use
Some more accurate stats...full day of use seems to be 10 hours with this root method...battery only 92% so I know it can do better!
I have a hard time uploading files on this website from my phone...doesn't want to work well
This is what I get so far...may have to update seperate posting
Hi everyone, I'm a complete noob to all this so I apologize in advance but I just sold my Nexus 5x and picked up a used S7A off of ebay and so far I'm loving it!! I was just wondering if the package disabler app that's been mentioned would be worth it for all the att bloatware or if I could just disable them myself and get the same results? My phone frequently gets really hot, sometimes uncomfortably hot, and was wondering if there were any ways I could potentially put less stress on the battery as well?? Thanks and sorry for the lack of knowledge!! Also not sure if it matters but my software version is only at security patch Oct 1, 2017. Not sure If updating to more recent patch would help battery life as well(?) but I currently am not on the att network so I'm not sure how to update manually
Hi,
I was searching for a Smartwatch and ended in ordering a (Chinese) Lemfo LF16 with full Android 5.1, ...
Interesting for me was that it seems to be a nice watch, smartphone functions, all connectivities possible and also some health function like pedometer, etc.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Watch LF16
Someone else having this one and already experience?
What are you thinking of this watch?
When I receive my, I will post feedback...
Thanks
giovanne
I'm anxious to hear more from people on this, and if there are any hacks and such for it. I dreadfully searched for days for the standalone smartwatch that was best for me, in the price range of this thing, and settled on this one for it's quick access sim slot (I will be alternating between this and the Nexus 5X), loud speaker (which is on the side, not on the wrist/bottom) because I need to hear my notifications), big screen, and not overly geeky looks. Hopefully it's as good as it seams and I don't regret my choice!
Well,
Here is a quick list of what I have discovered so far. Depending on what you will be using it for, you will either really love it or really hate it!
I'm using it mostly for the Bluetooth MP3 player features in addition to the basic watch.
Pros
• Nice design ala "Gear S3
• I can finally walk down the street with my Bluetooth music playing and swinging my arms without intermittent cutting out!
• The Bluetooth sound reproduction is really good even with stock player.
• Speaker nice and load.
• The weather update now works using your phone data and no longer request that you turn on your GPS.
• Access Sim with requiring the removal of back cover.
• Got rid of the ugly backgrounds within Notification screen, just a sweet black (well almost black)
Cons
• Operating system seems very beta as it has the most ugly watch faces ever released for a Lemfo Android watch, and leaves us with only 2 tolerable faces (hence incomplete OS)
• Unable to load up custom watch faces via "Clockskin any more.
• Watchstrap LUGS have been removed so not custom watch strap mods
• Silver bezel only comes with white band.
• Watch strap is very flimsy compared to the silicone strap available with the X3 Plus
• Watch is toted as, "Ultra thin" but it is not. The bezel is low profile, but there is more to the body although beveled in, so the watch has an unattractive umbrella look to it.
• Bezel is not stainless steel but some other lighter metal, maybe Aluminum or Titanium Alloy, so the quality feels almost Toy like. (so don't bump it!) My X5 still rules!
• Lemfo cut cost by providing a less than adequate charging cable that has poor magnet strength.
• I bought two of these watches and only one of the chargers worked. (Murphy's Law)
• When booting to recovery, there is no way to navigate the menu as it only has one button
• When navigating some of the app functions user is unable to adjust a function that requires swiping as this brings you back to a previous screen (Try to increase the volume by swiping without backing out of the function!
• Still unable to add App widgets to existing basic three (weather, fitness, music etc)
• Some screens don't allow you to go one step back by swiping right, but instead you have to press the power button and start again.
• At times "Data" connection seems to keep turning it self off. I think it happens after phone goes to sleep for a period of time, but the function to disable "turning off the data" is no longer within the "Display" section.
• Screen is promoted as, "Amoled" but the blacks still appear back-lit!
Enable Data
Update,
Enabling data now has its own icon within the quick access screen. I think that I was disabling this, not knowing what it was and therefore concluded that the data was turning itself off.
Thanks for the really good and detailled feedback.
I got mine LF16 also in the meantime.
Overall I can agree with you "Star_Inc".
For my first tests and usage I only want to use it as "normal" clock/watch and to try the pedometer.
For the first tests and to have max. bat-life I use the watch in Flightmode without (GPS, GSM, WLAN,...)
For the normal clock I tested with custom ClockFace handling.
- apk - Clockfaces available for the KW88 clock will work on the LF16 too
- "ClockSkin" folder method works with e.g. the (standalone) launcher/app from Eric: http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com/thread/267/standalone-clockskin-engine-apk-version
First pedometer tests where ok - will go on testing
Bluetooth with my Oneplus 3 Smartphone is working (but I don't like all the notifications on the watch)
Bluetooth filetransfer from Smartphone to LF16 is working (e.g. useful when transfering a new apk to the watch)
The suggested APP WiWear(SinWear) for the phone to connect is "horrible"!
I will go on testing...
does anyone know how i enabled syncing?
What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.
Hey Guys
I have already received my watch i agree with stark_inc, but i see the quality of the bezel is good
the overall feedback after 2 days is good, except 2 things
1. the terrific support program WiiWear (SinWear), this is the only way to connect the watch to my phone, unfortunately failed to connect it to Android Wear, MediaTEK Smart Device or Fundo, i hope some body helps with this
2. i cant add more watch faces also
for battery life it is ok to keep in your hand 1 day (provided you don't go through it many), thickness is ok, i think it was to be better if it is 1.3" instead of 1.39"
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Daisuke1988 said:
does anyone know how i enabled syncing?
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Only i can sync the watch to the phone through the rubbish program WiiWear
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Hav4k said:
What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.
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if you are going to use it much, it won't go with you for 1 day
turning off wifi will support battery significantly
GPS is ok i get my location exactly
Hey Guys
I tried ClockSkin Launcher and it is working fine
the major issue for me now that i cannot connect the watch to the phone except via this very poor WiiConnect (SinaWear) app, even it doesn't sync the steps and it really fool app, i hope someone can help how we connect the watch to Apps like Android Wear or any other useful app!
I'm Working On Something Wonderful!
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!
@Stark_Inc, hey man, if you can do that, kudos, I'll try it out. Can you elaborate on what you're doing, other than making a ROM for these phones? What is it based on? Stock? Or using LF16 rom and just editing the watchface handling?
I think a new ROM is certainly not a bad idea if it can be done - it may allow us to more easily fix the rest of the problems, which I agree are many.
I'm soooo disappointed with this thing (LF16). I chose it because of the easy access of the SIM card because I thought I'd like to swap between phone and this, but the battery life, if the watch is used, SUCKS, and charging "in the field" is pointless given how lousy the connection is (bad format anyway). Starting to think what I would have preferred isn't a full android watch in the first place - but more like Android Wear. I'm really hoping people who are smarter than me save the day with new ROMs and other fixes to make it worth owning.
I didn't spend 100 bucks for a watch. I honestly don't care a whole lot for watches (jewelry in general), I paid for a smart device. What is the point if you can't use it all day - which you can't. You can use it as a watch all day. I haven't had the guts to try it with my sim card yet. I doubt it would be much better. But turning off BT and WiFi certainly improved battery life by a TON. But what's the point?
I thought it would be easy to find a replacement companion app for this thing (for smartphone) but nothing works with it. Even the one they want you to use is not only **** even it if it worked, but for me crashes (Nexus 5X with 7.1.1) ever time it connects. I can't track fitness for ****. Even Google Fit - um, where's the heart-rate data collection? I tried apps both directly on the watch and the Nexus - nothing seems to collect historic data.
I think some of my problems are more with "stand-alone Android" watches more then the LF16, but since this is my first, I could be wrong.
KW88/LF16 Lite and Clean
So i'm moving away from my original idea of porting a "ClockSkin" friendly rom, and instead I am working to make the KW88/LF16 Rom more cleaner, lite'r and battery friendly. In fact, I have sought of started to make the UI more like the GEAR S3. I'll keep you posted.
Oh. I've also installed my own clock face of preference within the existing WatchApp engine, and I am sure I should be able to activate other dormant faces in the future.
someone try to add this keyboard ? https://www.kickstarter.com/project...oard-the-first-dedicated-smartwatch-k?lang=fr
i'm looking to a faces like this too, i love one hand watch
Stark_Inc said:
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!
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This should be great!
One question, KW88 watch is almost (except camera) the same HW than LF16, Do you Know if it's possible to flash KW88 ROMs in LF16?. Support for KW88 seems to be much better than LF16.
Small back from this watch I have for less than a week, the battery holds about 8 hours, without playing too much, black screen, not the needles in permanent lighting, I hope the arrival of a rom by Stark_Inc It would be really good, optimize the duration of the battery, make that one can further decrease the brightness, I have a sim card in and the data connections active. If not, I find it beautiful. I would like the screen to display the hours all the time, with a duration of 10 hours would really bein, is it a dream? I am on the orange network france.
Hi, I'm waiting form my LF16 to arrive (I guess I would go with the LEM5 for the 1GB of RAM, but I've noticed it after my watch was shipped ),
I'm spending my time planning my actions with itm so...
- Is kingoroot working on this watch to gain root access?
- is it possible (and needed) to activate swap on this watch?
- any list of mods/customization existing - maybe a new thread, or a sticky?
I hope people can make this watch worth the money, as I read it is not really that good....
Hi. I got this smartwatch for my son for xmas and I have not being able to get a pre-pay service provider to get a sim card for it. my son does not have a cell phone that is why we got him the watch but where ever i take it they say that wont work with their network. Can somebody please help me to finish with my son xmas present.
Thank you
Hi ,
The watch work with : 3G WCDMA 850/2100 ; 2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 quad-bandes Network .
You have to find the telephone company that uses its frequencies .
Has anyone though about installing a bigger battery on this watch? I have seen some on eBay up to 1200ma. This would definitely sort out the battery problems but I have no idea whether or not they are safe to install or even what type of battery this watch uses as I haven't opened it up.
Something I was thinking about doing but not sure if it can be done
Hi Karl, can you send me the links to the ebay store please ? tnx , now the automnomy of my watch the 3 / 4 days are 5 hours max !
Well, there doesn't seem to be a generic smart watch thread, so I thought I would post this here. If there is a better place for it, mods may feel free to move it if they wish.
So, i am looking for a recommendation on a smart watch. I was a pebble time user for a long time, but after the announcement that they will stop supporting it thus summer, i am a bit concerned its gonna stop working, so I have started my search. So far I have been through and returned a Fossil, and am getting ready to return my Zen Watch 3 because of all the bugs and problems (see my post yesterday) so I came here for a recommendation. If needed, I have a 6P running Android 8.0.0 rooted.
So here are my needs. please keep in mind that the needs listed may (I don't know) be common to most/all smart watches, but figure I should probably include them in case.
1) It must work reliably 99.9% of the time. 15 seconds before the watch notifies me of a phone call isn't acceptable. (Hence why I am thinking about ditching my Zen. The Zen Watch 3, as least as it is working for me is a horribly unreliable piece of junk, and Asus tech support is a total joke.)
2) It must notify me of phone calls, and text messages, and include the contact name in the notification.
3) I must be able to reply, at least by voice, to text messages I receive.
4) Must get at least 24 hours out of a charge with light use, and have some battery to spare. EG. My Zen watch, I use it occasionally, and after 24 hours, I usually have 25-%-35% life left. Thats why I got rid of the Fossil. Battery life was horrible.
5) Sub $500 Canadian (For our US people out there, thats about $400)
6) Must be available in Canada, and be purchasable from a retailer that permits "I didn't like it" returns. (Such as big box stores, etc, where you can return an item because it didn't suit your needs. After the nightmare I have been though with these watches, it has to be able to go back if its junk IMO)
7) IF it runs android wear, it must run 2.0+, however I am not insisting it be an android wear watch.
8) If it doesn't run android wear, there must be a google authenticator app available for it.
9) It must either have at least one programmable button (programmable button to launch an app) OR have a way to launch an app very quickly. Lets say with less then 2 seconds of work. I map this button to my authenticator app (see #8) because I use it often.
10) Must run at a decent speed. I find the zen watch crazy slow. I am not used to it taking at times 5-10 seconds to open an app.
Things I would like:
1) I kinda like Android wear. The selection of apps seems quite nice, and having google assistant right on the watch seems pretty awesome.
2) An extended battery life. Maybe I was spoiled by my pebble, and my 5-7 day battery life, but I would really like that, if its even available.
3) Color screen. Not really a need, but would be nice to have.
4) Decent selection of apps.
5) The ability to use my watch to take/receive calls, and actually use the watch as a speaker phone. Via bluetooth of course, I am not expecting it to work standalone without a phone.
So maybe I have been spoiled by my Pebble, and ran into a decent watch that just works, and works for my needs. I understand its possible that a watch that meets my needs (other then the pebble) just doesn't exist, and if thats the case, just tell me so. I am willing to accept that an an answer.
Before I end, I want to thank those of you that actually took the time to read my post, as it is a rather long one. And I want to thank those that took a few seconds to think about my needs and what may be available/useful to me. And a special thank you in advance to those that take the time to actually reply.