Ok, so I've had this GS7A a few days now, did one or two full resets to get used to what I could disable with Package Disabler Pro (worth every penny, seriously, since we may more than likely never see a working root) and I have to say that I am pretty damned impressed with the battery life. Yes we all know this magnificent beast has a 4000 mAh battery in it so that has something to do with the lifespan obviously, but I wanted to post about my experience and perhaps try and stir up some discussion since this subforum is basically dead for the most part.
I know most discussion is over in the GS7 thread since it is the same hardware in a different case but even so - it's actually not the same device since it has a smaller 3000 mAh capacity battery so, if anyone is interested in sharing their battery life info and experience by all means do it.
A caveat:
Right now I don't actually have cellular service with this GS7A because it's currently still carrier locked to AT&T and I haven't gotten around to purchasing an unlock code. I'm not an AT&T customer, never have been, and since I got this device from a trade done through craigslist the person I made the deal with wasn't the original owner - he did state he found the phone in a casino bathroom here in Las Vegas (that sort of thing happens hundreds of times a day here, seriously) and yes the IMEI is blacklisted so I don't know if the original owner reported it as lost or stolen and since the blacklist system doesn't differentiate then it doesn't matter anyway.
Having said that I will state that I use Google Voice for all my "phone calls" and SMS/text duties these days so I don't actually need cellular service as long as I have Wi-Fi. Google Hangouts handles all that just fine so, I'm stating this here so you'll understand that I don't use the cellular radio at all, the GS7A stays in Airplane Mode constantly and with Wi-Fi enabled (and yes Wi-Fi is always on).
Yesterday I did quite a bit in terms of actually using the GS7A: I listened to a lot of "police scanner" streams using Scanner Radio Pro, I watched the entire Presidential debate on the GS7A using CNNGo, I watched maybe 30 minutes of video on Periscope (Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert), listened to my own music (Opus 128Kbps encodes) using GoneMAD for maybe 3 hours total since the last charge, listened to a radio station from back home in Virginia using TuneIn Radio for maybe 2 hours, read a lot of articles using Flipboard, and various other things including hitting the Play Store to check for updates as well as checking Gmail maybe a few dozen times during the day. I also did two runs of Geekbench 4 and two runs of Antutu during this period before these screenshots were taken so those were a hit on the battery for max CPU/GPU usage for several minutes each as well.
Also, I keep the screen brightness at about 40-45% on the slider, but I did go out for a walk yesterday lasting maybe 30 minutes and set it on Auto to compensate, probably had the screen on about 5-8 minutes in that time at ~full brightness.
So understanding all that here's what I've got currently from screenshots I just took like a minute ago:
Looking at that kind of battery life, just shy of 2 full days and barely cracking the 50% point, I can guess that if I did have actual cellular service I could easily get 1.5-2 days use of this device regularly which is truly astonishing. The last phone I had that could give me battery life even close to this was a ZTE Zmax which literally gave me 10+ hours of SOT on a regular basis (the 1280x720 display on that really saved a lot of battery life, and the Super AMOLED on this GS7A probably helps considerably as well).
I am truly impressed by this, and I have to wonder what kind of actual battery life I could get with a) cellular service working normally and also b) root so I can do even more tweaking as well as c) an unlocked bootloader to allow for a custom kernel.
And I haven't even enabled the Power Saver or Ultra Power Saver modes at all.
So, what's your battery life like using the Galaxy S7 Active? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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Finally died and shut itself off but I watched a few TV shows off my Play Store Movies and TV account to keep the screen on and the Wi-Fi active and here's the final result - I never kicked in the Power or Ultra Power saving modes, I simply let it go till it shut itself off:
Mind you if I had just continued to use the GS7A in a typical fashion with audio streaming, Flipboard reading, etc, and not continuous screen on video viewing as well as the Wi-Fi I'm sure it would last 3 solid days without any problems so again I should (or anyone really) should be able to get an actual solid full day of use from this device reaching possibly into the 1.5 to 2 day range with cellular working normally.
Damned impressive stuff, it really is.
Just a followup. I wanted to see how far I could take this battery life thing so, I decided to do a full video run meaning:
- charge the battery to 100%
- set brightness at ~50% (since the way Touchwiz works it's hit or miss but close enough to the middle of the brightness slider)
- start playing a video in MX Player Pro with hardware acceleration enabled and the video on a loop
- give it a few seconds to get moving
- disconnect from the AC adapter
and then wait till I get to the 5% point for the battery.
So where did I end up? Well, here's the 50% point I just crossed a few moments ago:
Pretty damned awesome indeed. Yes I realize that hardly anyone is going to sit around watching videos for 8+ hours, let alone the potential 16 hours I might actually achieve (and again I don't use the power/ultra power saving modes, at least not once since I got this Active). Here are some details on the actual video I'm playing:
- it's TimeScapes which is pretty damned awesome itself
- it's the 1440p version of TimeScapes, at 2560x1440 resolution so the entire Super AMOLED display gets a full workout, every last pixel without fail
- it's about 48 minutes 21 seconds long (again, I have MX Player Pro set to loop it over and over)
- it's an MP4 container with the h.264 video stream with stereo AAC audio
Here's the MediaInfo for those that might be interested:
Code:
General
Complete name : Z:\TimeScapes\TimeScapes 2560x1440.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/mp41)
File size : 6.19 GiB
Duration : 48mn 21s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 18.3 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
©TIM : 00:00:00:00
©TSC : 24000
©TSZ : 1001
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 48mn 21s
Bit rate : 18.0 Mbps
Width : 2 560 pixels
Height : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) fps
Original frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.204
Stream size : 6.08 GiB (98%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Color range : Limited
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 48mn 21s
Source duration : 48mn 21s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 317 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 416 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 110 MiB (2%)
Source stream size : 110 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
I intend to let this one keep going till I get to the ~5% point and then take another set of screenshots and see just how far this thing will last and I'll update this post when I'm done. Wi-Fi is always on, Location is always on (high accuracy), my Google services are active (pun intended) and I get notifications from apps just for the record as well - I do check some things every 30 minutes or so (Flipboard updates, Hangouts messages, and some other stuff) that usually just takes a couple of seconds then I go right back to the video as well.
The Energizer bunny apparently has nothing on this Galaxy S7 Active.
Ok, here's the final results. When I got to 5% the screen dimmed automagically so I stopped the video then restarted it which kicked it back to the normal brightness (roughly 50% as stated above) and then I figured I'd push it about as far as I could meaning 1%.
Amazing... just shy of 15.5 hours SOT
I figure if I did this again and lowered the brightness to 30-35% I'd easily get the 16 hours and more, probably 17-ish sounds about right. Regardless for me, I've never seen any device get this kind of direct battery life but then again today's testing was very limited - strictly video playback of that 1440p video and not much else in terms of actual use. I probably used the Active less than 5 minutes of the nearly fifteen and a half hours for checking email, Hangouts, and of course looking at the battery stats to take a screenshot when needed.
The Galaxy S7 Active should get more love, it really should, it's sad that so many people dismiss it outright just because of looks. I'd take something like this device over pretty much anything else on the market today, and with battery life like this I'd still be using it long after other people's pretty shiny glossy slippery devices are long dead with no charge.
I might do this test again using a 10-bit h.265 HEVC 1080p movie here (Deadpool which is an awesome flick) and see how it handles that in terms of battery life and decoding, who knows.
Excellent performance, finding myself loving this phone !
How many charges/ days from new did you guys find that it took for the battery to settle in? I took my S7A off charge when I woke up at 2.30am this morning and 5 hours later when I got out of bed it had gone through 20% of its battery whilst sitting there screen off doing absolutely nothing.
I was horrified and I don't know if I'm worrying over nothing, I'm just a bit jumpy because although it is brand new, I bought it from ebay so my return window is extremely small. If it has a cooked/ defective battery I need to return it ASAP.
Of course I am aware that new phones take quite a few days, even weeks or months until they reach their optimum battery functionality but 20% in 5 hours idle seems absolutely crazy.
i would see what the main drain is in the battery info, as at night mine would barely drop a few percent ! ..
also, which country are you in ? have you ran package disabler and took down a few sill apps yet ?
maybe that you had autoupdate and was on WiFi so it was doing loadsa updates during night (as that is actually a setting!)
whats it been like since ... s this question poses more questions than ansers
Seems like I've got it sorted now. Only dropped 2% last night which is pretty good considering I have quite a lot of stuff left turned on.
I had already used package disabler pro to clean up all of the AT&T mess; it turns out the culprit was my MiBand and the software it came with. I've had no problems on any of my other phones, but on this device it seems that the apps that the MiBand needs to keep working properly were preventing the device from dozing or entering deep sleep properly.
Once I disabled them, the overnight battery drain went away. This is a real bummer because I do like the miband 1s, so I'm now on the lookout for an always-on fitness band with good battery life that is properly compatible with the S7 Active.
The miband 1s could not pair with this phone 100% correctly as a standard BLE device so possibly this was part of the problem.
BTW, Great Stuff br0adband - excellent job on the testing, really in depth study. I knew I was enjoying the way the phone had been working but hadn't tried any testing. I came from the Note series... had two Note 4s, one with Verizon, one with AT&T, a Note 5, which I still own (thank God) and two Note 7s, an original and a replacement, both turned in, damned it Samsung. I went back to the Note 5 on both occasions of the Note 7 fiasco and on both occasions, immediately noticed the battery life as the Note 7 also had fantastic battery life, until of course they'd explode! The last time I ran the Note 5 for about six weeks and couldn't handle it any more... it seemed like I was charging it more than I was using it. I went to get an S7 Edge, only the edge functions were driving me crazy. My AT&T rep said "Hey, have you seen this - you love rugged phones and long battery life right?" That was it! End of story... S7Active Owner!
Just completed a battery test with actual, normal usage. Keeping in mind I have a work phone which I use to make the majority of my calls, the S7A was just there for my personal web browsing and personal calls which amounted to about 10 calls and 25 SMS or so.
Force gmail sync set to once every 30 minutes, greenify installed and working properly, airplane mode NOT used at night so 4G radio was active the entire time, bluetooth on the entire time but only connected whilst driving.
I was hoping to crack 4 days, and I'm sure I could if I were to stop using the device but that's not what I was doing here. 3 days + 1 night is still pretty good for an unrooted phone with factory kernel.
Battery life is good on this device because of the battery size. Your testing is not accurate for real use because of the radios being turned off. But those are good results to see. The problem is the cell radio takes up much of the battery life just at idle, which is frustrating cause can't really disable this as a phone. Plus if your using bluetooth for smart watch or vehicle connectivity even as LE it uses a lot of battery. For the guys using package disabler which items do you think or recommend disablng that have helped the most?
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Battery life is good on this device because of the battery size. Your testing is not accurate for real use because of the radios being turned off. But those are good results to see. The problem is the cell radio takes up much of the battery life just at idle, which is frustrating cause can't really disable this as a phone. Plus if your using bluetooth for smart watch or vehicle connectivity even as LE it uses a lot of battery. For the guys using package disabler which items do you think or recommend disablng that have helped the most?
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I don't know what you are doing but something is wrong if bluetooth is causing extra battery drain. I have a Gear S2 connected constantly and headphones for multiple hours a day and my battery life is outstanding.
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I don't know what you are doing but something is wrong if bluetooth is causing extra battery drain. I have a Gear S2 connected constantly and headphones for multiple hours a day and my battery life is outstanding.
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Couldn't tell you why but when using Moto 360 for a day Bluetooth is almost always listed under battery stats. Maybe it's Android wear..? Bluetooth isn't top drainer but it does contribute..
Hey guys - I need some advice.
I recently rooted my phone - then upon the release of Nougat for the GS7A I decided to kick the glitchy root to the curb and go with Nougat. I absolutely love it, and am getting fantastic battery life without any modifications.... For starters I have a few basic questions:
1) Greenify - I have the paid version but have never really used it without Root before... reading around I seem to be getting conflicting information on the benefit of using Greenify knowing that Nougat has Doze, and Doze on the Go built in..... That said - since installing Nougat I have been using Greenify. I also enabled all of the added features through ADB to unlock agressive doze etc.... Someone please enlighten me - should I even be using this? Anything to avoid or use in particular in doing so?
2) Package Disabler Pro - I do not have this app, but it seems to be similar to like a non-root version of Titanium Backup for removing/freezing apps.... Should I purchase this? is there any reason not to? Also - I've seen about 15 different versions all with similar names and all exclusively for Samsung phones... which one to buy?
3) Assuming the above is a worthy purchase - which apps should I disable? Which are the biggest drains?
4) I've seen several battery stat tracking apps - which is best for tracking usage/battery hog apps?
Here's the kicker. I want to be able to use my phone to its full functionality. I have the Gear S2 watch (use it constantly), I like using Samsung Pay as much as I can, I Bluetooth to my car when driving for music/calls, I use Amazon Music/Play Music/Spotify often in the gym/running - what I am saying is: I am not shooting for 16 days of battery life with 14 hours of SOT - and otherwise zero functionality of why we purchase these smart devices to begin with. I am simply trying to maximize battery life while using my phone to the fullest - by whatever means necessary. All of this in mind - anyone else like me with similar goals that can enlighten me as to you suggestions to meet the above requirements?
I appreciate any help!!
1)Can't really answer this one; I'm using it but haven't noticed as much difference as I did under previous version (where I had root + xposed).
2)The one called Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) by policedeveloper.
3)Here is a list of apps I have disabled: Please note, I am not on AT&T. You might need to retain some of these if you need that functionality; to me it is all trash:
AT&T App Select, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Locker, AT&T protect plus, AT&T Remote support, Briefing, Device help, directv, drivemode, email, facebook, facebook app installer, facebook app manager, google play movies & tv, Hangouts, myAT&T, Remote, Samsung Pay (my banking app has its own NFC wallet functionality which overrides android pay), Smart limits, Usage Manager, YP, Lookout.
There's probably a few more that I need to get around to but I've had no dramas or FC issues after disabling all of the above.
4)I have got GSam battery which is good once it has been through a few charge cycles but I still find it gives some pretty wacky figures sometimes eg. Screen on time. I'm not really sure if any of the apps like this are necessary as the new battery stats gives you a decent amount of info once you drill down; it is just organised better in these apps is all.
Wakelock Detector Lite needs a bit of config through ADB but will give you a picture of what is waking up your phone and eating battery. Unfortunately, without root there isn't all that much you can do about it. Bluetooth_timer and Bluetooth_alarm issues are still present in Nougat and still waking the phone far more often than is necessary.
5)Keep your screen brightness down and turn off wifi when you don't need it, check your phone via your watch where possible and consider forcing the device to use WCDMA if that is an option for you. Fully waking up the device + having screen on is when your battery gets eaten alive. I find the S7A to be a pretty good workhorse as is. The built in medium battery saving setting might interest you as well, the extreme one is a step too far but you can still use as normal on the moderate battery saving mode.
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1)Can't really answer this one; I'm using it but haven't noticed as much difference as I did under previous version (where I had root + xposed).
2)The one called Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) by policedeveloper.
3)Here is a list of apps I have disabled: Please note, I am not on AT&T. You might need to retain some of these if you need that functionality; to me it is all trash:
AT&T App Select, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Locker, AT&T protect plus, AT&T Remote support, Briefing, Device help, directv, drivemode, email, facebook, facebook app installer, facebook app manager, google play movies & tv, Hangouts, myAT&T, Remote, Samsung Pay (my banking app has its own NFC wallet functionality which overrides android pay), Smart limits, Usage Manager, YP, Lookout.
There's probably a few more that I need to get around to but I've had no dramas or FC issues after disabling all of the above.
4)I have got GSam battery which is good once it has been through a few charge cycles but I still find it gives some pretty wacky figures sometimes eg. Screen on time. I'm not really sure if any of the apps like this are necessary as the new battery stats gives you a decent amount of info once you drill down; it is just organised better in these apps is all.
Wakelock Detector Lite needs a bit of config through ADB but will give you a picture of what is waking up your phone and eating battery. Unfortunately, without root there isn't all that much you can do about it. Bluetooth_timer and Bluetooth_alarm issues are still present in Nougat and still waking the phone far more often than is necessary.
5)Keep your screen brightness down and turn off wifi when you don't need it, check your phone via your watch where possible and consider forcing the device to use WCDMA if that is an option for you. Fully waking up the device + having screen on is when your battery gets eaten alive. I find the S7A to be a pretty good workhorse as is. The built in medium battery saving setting might interest you as well, the extreme one is a step too far but you can still use as normal on the moderate battery saving mode.
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Thanks for sharing your experience and advice with me! So far I've got about 70 or so packages disabled and I have not used Greenify (yet) - only the built in doze app settings in Nougat.
I am still using Samsung Pay, Gear S2 watch, Bluetooth in my car/headphones, and haven't had a single issue with functionality yet.
The android system is now way down on the battery usage list and I just pulled 6 hours SOT, over 42 hours since the first charge.
Pretty damn good start and looks like I may have succeeded in my goals here! I will be running a few more battery cycles and tracking data with and without Greenify - and once I have more information I plan to start a thread on this for others to hopefully help educate others with similar goals.
I recently got a Samsung s7 but after some time I realise the battery is draining fast and taking long to charge, it can be 100% and the green light will never pop. After full charge it reduces within minutes of being idle. Sometimes it can stay at a certain percentage for a very long time before reducing again. Guys I need help to solve this problem. Thanks
Not all that good battery life.
I use:
Screen, ON, Auto - Full Bright.
Samsung Fit, ON
Google Maps, ON (Offline)
WiFi, ON (Connected to GoPro)
4G, ON
3½ Hours......
I have a TOMO M4 battery pack with TESLA 18650 cells from a 90D Module as a battery supply for my trail rides.
The phone is capable, but still is underpowered for its build and what it can accomplish.
This needs a case with a built in battery, this truly would make it a rugged phone for the outdoor enthusiast, same as the S8 now has.
I wonder if the S8 Active will get a battery case?! This would defo be my next purchase....
OR .... do the Oukitel K10000 build to it.
Trying to take a picture here from the mobile direct...
Not bad... better then my Samsung galaxy s3...I got 12 hours at best but those lithium ion batteries drain and die over time sadly....
This is with the weird work around root too... its getting the Jon done thus far...lets see how she finishes with regular use
Some more accurate stats...full day of use seems to be 10 hours with this root method...battery only 92% so I know it can do better!
I have a hard time uploading files on this website from my phone...doesn't want to work well
This is what I get so far...may have to update seperate posting
Hi everyone, I'm a complete noob to all this so I apologize in advance but I just sold my Nexus 5x and picked up a used S7A off of ebay and so far I'm loving it!! I was just wondering if the package disabler app that's been mentioned would be worth it for all the att bloatware or if I could just disable them myself and get the same results? My phone frequently gets really hot, sometimes uncomfortably hot, and was wondering if there were any ways I could potentially put less stress on the battery as well?? Thanks and sorry for the lack of knowledge!! Also not sure if it matters but my software version is only at security patch Oct 1, 2017. Not sure If updating to more recent patch would help battery life as well(?) but I currently am not on the att network so I'm not sure how to update manually
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At Christmas I will receive my HTC Touch HD and this is why I have started reading all the Blackstone thread since a month.
That is what I understand so far(correct me if I am wrong):
-Hardware: big screen,a bit less contrast than Diamond, but impressive resolution and really (probably for the first time) user-friendly device
-Battery: better than Diamond's one..up to 2 days of normal use
-Video performance: still a lot of work, but coreplayer works fine with low size movies or videos. At the moment there is no access to the internal GPU and only WMP can play smooth .mp4...big hopes for the future. People disappointed due to high hardware capability not used
-Audio performance: quality comparable to Ipod/Iphone, but TF3d interface has still some bugs to be fixed..however, a lot of 3rd software to choose the software we like most ( S2P for example)
-Camera performance: still a bit confused, it seems to be a "standard" 5mp compared to the level of other devices (nokia or sony-ericsson)...however there is no thread that show exactly the power of this camera with lot of pictures in different environments
-Navigation GPS: few bugs to be fixed, but we can use igo8, Navigon 7 and Tomtom 7 in high resolution
-Customization: like the other wm..you can do really what you want (change today, apply tons of software, etc etc)..there are no limits so far, except the hardware's ones.
-Games: let's say that the TOUCH HD is more a "business device" with media specifics...but still far from Iphone games. Let's hope in the future like for the video performance.
-Development: HSPL not yet released (after we would have a huge choice of ROMs!!!..)...hopefully a christmas gift
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-Battery: better than Diamond's one..up to 2 days of normal use
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That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
I think you just about summed it up.
It is a really nice device with lots more potential.
I'm sure you won't be disappointed this christmas!!
How do you stop the activesync?
well, im looking for a better solution on the high quality video playback capability lol
something wrong
alex3683 said:
That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
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there's probably something wrong with your device cause i always get over a day and a half at least i mean have a look this has been covered several times snd most members appear to agree that the battery has improved especially in comparison to the kaiser and diamond both very loved handsets
I must confirm, marvi0 is right. The battery should last for over a day to two days when the device is sporadicaly used.
What I see as potentional problems could be these:
1) bad radio version (i remember these issues on HTC Hima with old ROMs, they could drain battery twice fast than usual).
2) some creepy app, that takes too much CPU use. Remember that the more the CPU is used, the more batt is spend. The power-off works that way: it not only turns off screen, it also sends windows to some sort of standby mode, when most of the apps are suspended. But - if some app could not get to this state, it runs on full throttle on the background. I remember such issue with playing with WM5 screensaver and MortScripts. Check your taskbar, what is running there.
My battery now lasts up to 5 x days max if I use Tweak HD suggested settings throughout! This is an excellent App. As per the camera I wish this could be fixed / replaced with something like I originally used on my Trinity since the adaptive zoom/focus causes rapid movement to alwas go blurred, whilst static images or landscapes are fine.
Battery Last 1 n half day
After lots of phone calls, average sms and few songs...Battery Last 1 n half day...
Which is fine for me
max i got from the battery was 3 days only doing a couple of calls and some sms, i don't use any massive tf3d personalization only changed the background image, installed s2u2, crystal clock and optimized the phone cache, but usualy it's around 1 and half, 2 days
My battery went from 100% to 48% in the space of about 8 hours on Sunday as I was doing lots of stuff on it, trying to get apps working, trying things out, installing, uninstalling etc.
I then had the phone on standby all night (was 48% before bed) and it has been on standby most of today with 1 phone call and a bit of video and calculator, and still on 48%
Okay, I now got my battery life up to about two days with some telephony and SMS and bluetooth always turned on by switching of the light sensor and using a fixed setting of two bars for the light when using battery. This is enough (at least for me) to see everything well on the device in every lighting condition.
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That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
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I'm surprised with your short battery life. I used it almost non-stop and still had 50% left a day later. I find the battery life of HD amazingly good. However, I did took the pain to charge it properly before starting to use it. Although the manual said we need only 3 hours to charge it, I kept unplugging the power when the charge indicator turned green, then plug it in again. I kept repeating this process for about 2 hours after it first turned green. This might have something to do with the long battery life I'm getting, perhaps.
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My battery went from 100% to 48% in the space of about 8 hours on Sunday as I was doing lots of stuff on it, trying to get apps working, trying things out, installing, uninstalling etc.
I then had the phone on standby all night (was 48% before bed) and it has been on standby most of today with 1 phone call and a bit of video and calculator, and still on 48%
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This is very much in line with my own experience so far.
HTCzar said:
How do you stop the activesync?
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Have a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3036421&postcount=12
Uhh, I cannot post this in development as I am still a newby :-(
However:
Hello,
I came from Symbian (Nokia C7-00) and liked the phone very much. Everything worked the way it should. (I was especially interested in office functionality.)
Now I bought a Galaxy Note and I really love the hardware.
But I discovered that it uses much energy and it doesn't like to sleep as often as it could. (I already returned to Android GB, which gives a better experience, but there still is room for improvement.)
1. Sometimes even though the phone simply lies around and does nothing, the last app that I forgot to close is hindering the CPU from sleeping. Why? The is no need.
2. At night I am used to turn the phone into flight mode. However I found out that this isn't the best thing for Android. In the morning, when the email app goes to push phase, the phone leaves sleep mode and seems to excitedly wait for the flight mode to get switched off. This uses *quite* a bit of battery!
These things seem strange to me. My impression is that Android is not really optimised for cell phones. If the screen is off, there is no need for CPU time, doesn't it? There is nothing urgent to do; everything could be done slowly; no hurry.
I guess the battery could last *much* longer if this would be improved.
Greetings,
corcov
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Uhh, I cannot post this in development as I am still a newby :-(
However:
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Which is handy, because this thread has nothing to do with development and thus saved you from some abuse!
Regards,
Dave
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But I already know how to click the "thanks" button
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But I already know how to click the "thanks" button
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Doesn't matter.
Development, if you did not create IT, then it does not belong in development. Remember that. Otherwise you will get flamed.
Android is a mobile OS, so of course it is optimised for smart phones - not ordinary cell phones. Android acts like a computer and, if you keep a computer running Crysis 2 for example, it would burn more power than a computer just playing some music off of iTunes.
In terms of improving your battery, check your brightness. You can download widgets to adjust the brightness right from the home screens. I use these to set my brightness to its lowest whilst at home (perfectly adequate for night and indoor use away from sunlight) and turn it onto automatic when I go outside. This has saved my a bunch of battery.
If you are running a stock Samsung ROM, turn on power saving mode. I always leave it on and, frankly, I have no idea as to what it actually does. I haven't noticed a performance drop in the slightest, but if it saves a bit of battery it is worth it. Also, you could try Juice Defender or some other battery saving apps which work for some people - others not.
Finally, ensure you haven't left GPS, Bluetooth or WiFi on when not needed. Try downloading CPU Spy to check your phone deep sleeps, yet mine even without it ever deep sleeping gets around 16 hours of battery life which is still the best I have ever gotten on a smart phone. Bettery Battery Stats can show you wake-locks (apps that are keeping your phone active) also.
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Android is a mobile OS, so of course it is optimised for smart phones - not ordinary cell phones.
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I see. Well it might be a nice feature if one could add an "now be a cell phone"-option for energy enhancement, which means: if screen if off, sleep.
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1. Sometimes even though the phone simply lies around and does nothing, the last app that I forgot to close is hindering the CPU from sleeping. Why? The is no need.
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There are some legitimate needs for keeping the CPU from sleeping for a short period of time - such as finishing a sync operation (otherwise, the radio power spent beginning the sync is wasted). Unfortunately, some poorly written applications (Facebook for example) abuse the wakelock mechanisms and hold wakelocks when it is not justified.
2. At night I am used to turn the phone into flight mode. However I found out that this isn't the best thing for Android. In the morning, when the email app goes to push phase, the phone leaves sleep mode and seems to excitedly wait for the flight mode to get switched off. This uses *quite* a bit of battery!
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This is not something I have ever encountered myself. "push" relies on the server to trigger something - in airplane mode, this trigger can't happen.
These things seem strange to me. My impression is that Android is not really optimised for cell phones. If the screen is off, there is no need for CPU time, doesn't it? There is nothing urgent to do; everything could be done slowly; no hurry.
I guess the battery could last *much* longer if this would be improved.
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corcov
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Android is well optimized for cell phones - However, it assumes that third-party applications follow Google's recommendations for power management. Unfortunately, many of them do not. The number of IM applications which choose to use their own proprietary and poorly optimized network protocols (such as Skype, it's atrocious) as opposed to Google C2DM (optimized and efficient) is astonishing.
An interesting note was that I believe much of the focus at Google I/O was on reminding app developers that they need to play nice with the system and other apps.
There are some cases where there are device-specific nonoptimalities. Compared to most Nexus devices, Exynos devices have an absurdly long time to resume from wake (1000 milliseconds), and during that resume cycle CPU frequency is locked to 800 MHz and cpuidle is disabled. This is one of the #1 causes of power drain on our device. This is also exclusively a Samsung kernel/hardware architecture problem that does not affect the Nexus S (similar CPU, but completely different modem interface) or the Galaxy Nexus (different CPU/modem interface).
In the case of our device, the modem is hung off of the CPU on a USB bus - this makes for very long resume times.
Here are obvious reasons the CPU should occasionally turn on when the screen is off:
1) MP3 playback in the background
2) Handling of background syncs - e.g. when an email or Google Talk IM comes in, wake the CPU, handle it, and pop a notification sound, then go back to sleep. Normally, this means the CPU sleeps while waiting for an interrupt from the WLAN chipset or the cellular radio. Unfortunately, some apps drive incoming data to the device far too frequently. (See my above rant about Skype's network protocols being crap compared to Google's C2DM protocol.)
3) Handling of scheduled wakeups (alarms, calendar events, etc) - these are rare and almost never consume power
Most power drain is from item 2, with third-party apps frequently behaving extremely poorly compared to Google's own application suite and sync protocols.
Now this an extensive answer which is very informative and helpful for me since insights are always soothing. Love it. Thanks!
not much to add after Entropy, but if you feel the need to get some control over battery usage you could try betterbatterystats app (and the thread) to identify battery eaters, besides that, there are few apps to check what is going on with your system when it sleeps:
- CPU Spy to show cpu states time
- Autorun Manager or Autostarts to disable triggers causing apps like FB to run without reason (those which you will find with betterbatterystats)
- Battery Monitor Widget, to check battery current consumption (mA) - this app is generally not recommended, because Note's hardware does not report the actual current, so the readings are highly estimated and because when poorly configured it can drain your battery faster, BUT otoh with refresh rate set at 5 minutes or more, it can give you some approximate orientation on how much battery you lose (better than counting %/hour by yourself) at negligible battery usage
- also, if you feel the need to disable net and sync during night, you could automate it using "lama", which is free, and in my experience does not eat much battery by itself
- and last but not least, avoid taskillers, those apps may have adverse effect, i.e. self restarting apps (by the triggers mentioned above), will get killed then restarted and so on and so on, leading to much higher battery drain
DROID Turbo Battery Optimizations
1. Change Preferred network type from Global to LTE/CDMA (Verizon) [settings>more>mobile networks]
2. Change WiFi Settings
Recommended:
Disable show WiFi pop-up
Disable network notification (in WiFi>advanced)
Disable WiFi notifications (in WiFi>advanced)
Disable scanning always available (in WiFi>advanced)3. Disable Moto Display (Optional, but will improve battery life)
4. Disable Moto Assist features using GPS, such as Home and Driving.
5. Disable Moto Actions:
Recommended:Wave to silence (noticeable battery drain)
Approach for Moto Display (noticeable battery drain)
Optional: Twist for Quick Capture
6. Disable Attentive Display (settings>display>attentive display)
7. Disable Apps/Bloat
Rootjunky Method: Video | Direct Link for Files
Recommended:
Caller Name ID
Cloud
Command Center (Clock/Temp/Battery Widget)
FamilyBase Companion
Message+
Verizon Location Agent
Verizon Support & Protection
VZ Navigator
Optional:
Amazon app suite
Amazon Kindle
Amazon Music
Appstore (Amazon)
Audible
My InfoZone
My Verizon Mobile
Softcard
Slacker Radio
8. Location: Battery Saving Mode recommended. Disable if no GPS/Maps/Smartwatch used. Enable when needed.
Video of my results & tips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGW90qo0J2c
Testing is still currently in progress.. I am looking for more people willing to disable these functions and test their devices in the real world as well post their results. YMMV. I will update this thread as more information becomes available and has testing continues.
Update 11/7/14: Added detailed breakdown of optimizations.
Update 11/9/14: Rootjunky bloat block/unblock script: Video & Files
Update 11/12/14: Just a heads up, I will no longer be updating this thread as I have returned my Turbo due to purchasing a Nexus 6 instead. Everything you need to maximize the longevity of your battery can be found above or within this thread. Good luck to those who push the limits with the Turbo in the battery department and beyond. I hope this thread will hope those who need it, it is a great phone.
My original results attached below:
What are the settings you are using? Google play services and system idle are drawing a massive amount of power from my battery. Here's a screen shot.
Please let me know what settings you are using.
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What are the settings you are using? Google play services and system idle are drawing a massive amount of power from my battery. Here's a screen shot.
Please let me know what settings you are using.
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I will be posting a video with detailed information on settings and disabled apps, it's a lot of stuff to go over.
What are your location settings set at?
I'm not sure how to get to my detailed location settings but I always have my GPS turned off. I even have google voice turned off. I can't do much with Moto Voice when Google Voice is disabled tho.
Which location settings are you referring to?
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Dude this is how it should be! Liking what I'm seeing
My battery specs?
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Dude this is how it should be! Liking what I'm seeing
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Are you referring to my battery specs or the optimization video that will be put up. I lost like 20 % of battery overnight. 12 hours with 45 minutes of Screen On Time. 20% battery?? thats aweful!
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I'm not sure how to get to my detailed location settings but I always have my GPS turned off. I even have google voice turned off. I can't do much with Moto Voice when Google Voice is disabled tho.
Which location settings are you referring to?
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You are in the correct settings.
Your services are definitely way too high, but I need more information before I can determine that.
Did you just acquire the Turbo?... Are you using Google play to download and setup all of your apps, or have apps being downloaded/updated in the background? Do you have auto update enabled?
Got the turbo on the 2nd of November. Tried to optimize battery as much as I could to my knowledge. I'm coming from an S4. All my apps are auto update, Google Play is used to manage all my apps. I have it set to update apps automatically only over WiFi. BUT I have my WiFi setting set not to keep WiFi on when the screen is off. Here's some more screens.
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I also noticed that Google Play Services is keeping my phone awake for 4 hours at a time. You can see from my first screen shots.
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I was referring to the OP
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Are you referring to my battery specs or the optimization video that will be put up. I lost like 20 % of battery overnight. 12 hours with 45 minutes of Screen On Time. 20% battery?? thats aweful!
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Updated OP: I will do my best to produce a video tonight with detailed information and tips. I'd like to get some additional people willing to try the settings I am using and see real world results from others.
Here is an update on my current run. Again, moderate usage - WiFi, Data, & Bluetooth paired Moto 360 - 100% uptime.
SoT?
That Moto 360 may help quite a bit, I'm not seeing a ton of screen on time. What are you at?
Looking forward to what you've found. Please include your system version.
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That Moto 360 may help quite a bit, I'm not seeing a ton of screen on time. What are you at?
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This is more of a moderate/endurance run as opposed to my previous heavy usage testing. So, the SoT isn't relatively important here.
But the current SoT is just under 4 hr currently (3H 53M). But keep in mind this is with WiFi, Data, Bluetooth (M360), and GPS running 100%.
However, my heavy usage pure SoT test produced just over 7 hrs SoT, including a Moto 360. I was testing high to mid range and then I plan to test the same usage without a 360/bluetooth/gps and see those results over the weekend.
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Updated OP: I will do my best to produce a video tonight with detailed information and tips. I'd like to get some additional people willing to try the settings I am using and see real world results from others..
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It would definitely be helpful to get a video/list of all the setting you are using. I would like to try them out.
I did notice a bit of a jump in battery performance when I did that minor update to 21.21.15.
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Updated OP: I will do my best to produce a video tonight with detailed information and tips. I'd like to get some additional people willing to try the settings I am using and see real world results from others.
Here is an update on my current run. Again, moderate usage - WiFi, Data, & Bluetooth paired Moto 360 - 100% uptime.
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I would love to participate and respond back with the results of your optimization settings. Ill post it all up when the time comes.
Working on video as I post, nothing fancy, just an overall run down of tips and options to achieve maximum battery life. Should be up in an hour or so.
Here's my current battery stats after recording.
Impressive!
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Working on video as I post, nothing fancy, just an overall run down of tips and options to achieve maximum battery life. Should be up in an hour or so.
Here's my current battery stats after recording.
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With the video recording in that SOT that's impressive. I'm prepared to test your specs asap and report back with details. Thanks so much for this!
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Working on video as I post, nothing fancy, just an overall run down of tips and options to achieve maximum battery life. Should be up in an hour or so.
Here's my current battery stats after recording.
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impressive! Looking forward to the video and trying your suggestions.
Proper Charging / Discharging
So I am RC car enthusiast and its common knowledge along LiPo batteries to never fully discharge them. Im not sure what battery tech is used in the Turbo but I need some pointers and advice.
When people say it takes a couple of days for the battery to "break-in" what do they do for cycles?
Should i be fully discharging and charging my phone the first few times? Or can i use it as normal?
When I purchased my S4 8 months ago the Verizon Associate told me to basically never let the phone drop below 50-60% - does this sound right?
Let's be clear. G4 is an awesome device. But it's still kindof in the pre-production phage, don't you think? It's not even available 10 countries in the world. Anyway many of who have already bought LG G4, are actually migrated from another smartphone branding either HTC, Samsung, Nexus, Apple etc. And the youtubers contributed a lot in this publicity for LG. I hardly found anyone said any bad thing about G4, neither about it's battery life nor performance in those videos or reviews. But these two have become the most concerning area as well as disappointment for many of the users right now. I, myself also have been suffering with a few issues. I have already changed one device. Coming from XDA forum, here I will try my best to summarize all the problems people are facing with their G4 & also my observation on that matter from my personal experience as well as gathered knowledge from almost all the forums in XDA:
1. MISSED TAP:
Almost all users reporting that G4 missing many taps to recognize.
My observation:
Well, I have also experienced a few missed taps. But what I think it's not a LCD issue, rather less optimization/smoothness issue of the G4 ROM. How do I know? Well I switched on the touch sound. And every tap I did, including the missed ones, there was tapping sound. Even I tested in the manual testing, nothing reported like that. And even after formatting, symptoms reduced for some. But surely it's very annoying.
Oh one thing about knock codes, I found LG LCD doesn't response to gentlest touches sometimes. You need to press slightly a bit more. Fact to be considered : I am still using the provided plastic protector.
2. LAGGING ISSUE:
There is stuttering here and there in G4, not only in the stock launcher but also in the whole system.
My observations:
No doubt G4 lags. You will notice less smoothness / sluggishness while sliding any page up & down in chrome, youtube, Google plus or anything. It is not "butter smooth" like some other OEMs for most of the users. But switching to Nova, turning off smart bulletin & dual window helped to some extent, but not completely.
3. BATTERY LIFE:
Many of the moderate to heavy users complaining about quick battery drainage with low to medium brightness.
My observations:
LG said many things about their battery life of G4 in their announcement party and many well-known youtubers also said very much positive things about G4's battery life i.e. it can easily last a day which raised up the expectation bar of many users. But the real scenario is quite not like that. Most of the medium to heavy users are getting average 3 - 4.5 hours SOT with keeping screen brightness low to medium which is not at all the way LG mentioned. It seems like LG is providing that extra battery knowing the fact that you will need to put on that extra one at the middle of the day for sure. Anyway, what I found is: G4's stand-by time is OUTSTANDING. Don't turn on that screen much, only receive a few calls, you can pass a decade (not literally) with a single charge. But turn on that screen, do browse, chat, Facebooking or Youtubing or anything keeping that overkill screen on, you will hardly pass 5 hours maximum. Raise the brightness a bit more, like 75-100%, brother, you are doomed. Your G4 will die within hours. For some, turning off auto brightness & keeping the brightness below 50% all the time, turning off fast-dormency, turning off GPS, using Greenify helped a bit. Anyway, my point is that awesome-bright-vivid-overkill screen is actually the curse for the G4 at present if LG doesn't bring up some solutions for it. What's the point if you can not enjoy the juice of a fruit which is known to be the tastiest of them all???
4. HEATING & SLOW CHARGING ISSUE:
Very limited people including mine are complaining of frequent, not consistent, heating up issue of the phone as well as slow charging.
My observations:
Many factors can be responsible for this. Some people find this scenario happening once a day, for some once in two days and these two issues are interconnected in my opinion. What can heat up the phone? May be some hidden apps, maybe weather, maybe some other things, but surely it does for some. Yah we have seen in all the reviews that G4 warms up a bit, but not very much. But the people who are complaining about it, found it uncomfortable to speak touching the phone to the face. I will attach a screenshot here, in which my phone was completely idle, was on charge, no phone call came & my phone got heat up to 42 degrees & it took almost 5 hours to charge from 20 - 100%. Again I am saying this is not a consistent scenario, but it's frustrating for some including mine.
5. OTHER ISSUES:
These are some random issues found by some people:
a) White sparking light in the screen.
b) Yellow tint on screen.
c) Bad bluetooth audio.
d) Wifi speed problem.
e) Helium app doesn't work properly.
f) Nova launcher cannot install properly.
g) Vibration too soft.
h) Auto brightness inconsistancy.
So guys, if you have read it and if you are one of those renowned youtubers or columnists or bloggers whom LG guys follow on regular basis, please make an article or video about it, spread these information and let the LG guys know about these so that they can do something about it. I personally believe, software update can solve 95% of the issues. So be it.
Thanks for your patience to read my post.
I guess I've been pretty lucky thusfar.
Only missed taps I've had is on the double-tap to wake, but I think it might be due to my hardly tapping it (was used to HTC's touch profile last time I had this feature).
No lags here. I did notice that once, when I hit Home button, I returned to a blank home screen and it took about 5 seconds for the icons/widgets to show up...hasn't happened since the one time, though.
Charging, I use the stock charger from my old Note 4, so I get decent times with that (generally 10%-100% in about 50 mins...I'll take that).
As far as battery, I get about 3 hours screen on and 16-18 hours total per charge. Not bad considering I'm a heavy user when the screen is on and stream Spotify via BT speaker 12 hours/day while at work. I've only been through 3 charge cycles so far. It's still not what I was used to with the M8 or Note 4, so I will admit I'd like it to be better.
I think I would go just about nuts if I had any of 5a, b, c, or d. LOL
5d is a huge concern for me. My WiFi speed is complete bollocks. I'm getting a reading of 60mb down from my 5gh router when running speedtest on the phone. But when I actually load a website it's like I'm using dial up again. The load times are atrocious! I'm going to look into changing chanels on my router as someone has mentioned as a fix. Fingers crossed
I haven't had any of those issues. Honestly been flawless so far. Surprised by how smooth it is. I do only get 3 hours sot if I run power intensive apps. But I think that's normal.
The only real issue I've had is **** slowness on Wi-Fi but blazing speed on data
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Wifi speeds are complete crap for me i swear it's like im on dial up waiting for a page to load and forget about getting youtube to load
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I guess I've been pretty lucky thusfar.
Only missed taps I've had is on the double-tap to wake, but I think it might be due to my hardly tapping it (was used to HTC's touch profile last time I had this feature).
No lags here. I did notice that once, when I hit Home button, I returned to a blank home screen and it took about 5 seconds for the icons/widgets to show up...hasn't happened since the one time, though.
Charging, I use the stock charger from my old Note 4, so I get decent times with that (generally 10%-100% in about 50 mins...I'll take that).
As far as battery, I get about 3 hours screen on and 16-18 hours total per charge. Not bad considering I'm a heavy user when the screen is on and stream Spotify via BT speaker 12 hours/day while at work. I've only been through 3 charge cycles so far. It's still not what I was used to with the M8 or Note 4, so I will admit I'd like it to be better.
I think I would go just about nuts if I had any of 5a, b, c, or d. LOL
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Same here. Not sure why there is so much inconsistency between devices. I bought the US trial version, and mine has been relatively good. If I had half of the problems reported I would have sold this thing ASAP and waited for a better crop of devices to come out this fall. I'm one of the few people who really like a stripped down TouchWiz, but with Knox/sealed but not waterproof body/no SD/weak battery the S6 wasn't cutting it. If only Samsung sold the Exynos to these other vendors... For now, I'm fine with the G4, but really hope we get root and unlocked BL so development explodes and the kernel can get tweaked.
Only problem I've had is holding back my enthusiasm about how flawless this phone is ( my wife would try to hijack it if she knew how impressed I am). I do miss 4 buttons on the bottom though
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Only problem I've had is holding back my enthusiasm about how flawless this phone is ( my wife would try to hijack it if she knew how impressed I am). I do miss 4 buttons on the bottom though
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You can add the 4th button. You can add up to 5. Settings - Display - Home touch buttons - Button combination
Perfect summary.
I've also seen a lot of people saying that they aren't having these problems which can lead to people thinking the phone is perfect, which it's not. I love the screen size and the display but the software is really letting this phone down.
I've experienced many problems too, such as: stuttering, poor battery life at high brightness, brightness dimming down by itself, slow charging, lag and stutter in games, e.g. dead trigger 2 and subway surfers (yes I've turned off game optimiser) and the notification pull down freezing frequently when I get a notification. However, as I saw a lot of people saying that their phones were perfect I chose to exchange my phone instead of return it. My new phone has the exact same problems (uk device on v10a).
Maybe these problems can be fixed with a software update but the question is will it? My G3 lagged and stuttered from the beginning and no software update changed that. The only fix was to switch to a cm12 rom which made the phone finally perform smoothly, at the cost of battery life and camera quality.
It's been at least 3 phones in a row now that have had poor software (g3, g flex 2 and now g4). They're supposed to test their phones before putting them out to consumers but it doesn't seem like they really care so I don't have much hope.
Worst thing is I really want to love this phone and think LG's hardware design is perfect but the software is most likely going to make me sell it.
It might be worth mentioning which version you're on, especially if it's one where the provider (such as VZW) has bogged it down with bloatware. That could conceivably be a contributing factor to battery life issues, if nothing else.
Just a suggestion. Might be a good idea for people to put which model they're on and which Software version they're running.
Like I'm on the H811 running version 81110D. That way, we can see if any issues might be carrier type or software version based...
Just a thought.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but on the Sprint model the WiFi randomly turns itself on. I rarely use WiFi, so it's definitely not me turning it on and forgetting that i did or anything.
I was having a issue where my screen Brightness would change on it's own. Tmobile H811 running version 81110D ? I believe that was the version before the update I got and installed on its own last night of H. When I mean change on it's own I had the Screen Brightness on 100% like every other phone and after the few secs when the screen dims and you touch it again the screen brightness would now be set to 70% now 100%. AUTO is off I don't use that.
I will see if this happens on the H update or not.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but on the Sprint model the WiFi randomly turns itself on. I rarely use WiFi, so it's definitely not me turning it on and forgetting that i did or anything.
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I've actually seen this on the TMO version (8110d). Very sporadic (or it happens more than I realize but I don't spend enough time looking at the phone to notice, not sure which).
I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.
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I've actually seen this on the TMO version (8110d). Very sporadic (or it happens more than I realize but I don't spend enough time looking at the phone to notice, not sure which).
I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.
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Go into Wi-Fi Settings.
Under Advanced Wifi Settings
In Useful Settings, there is a setting for "Keep Wi-Fi on when screen is off".
It's set to NO by default.
I would imagine it's some sort of power saving feature.
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I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.
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In setting, wifi, advanced there is an option for turning off wifi when the screen is off. Check that and wifi will stay on. Still haven't digured out why it's turning itself on though.
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In setting, wifi, advanced there is an option for turning off wifi when the screen is off. Check that and wifi will stay on. Still haven't digured out why it's turning itself on though.
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I haven't touched anything in Wi-Fi settings other than setting my passkey and turning "Always allow scanning" off. That setting for Wi-Fi off when screen is off was on when I got the phone. Looks like default position.
It probably doesn't help that they keep losing software engineers at their California office (i work at LG). Senior engineers to make things worse.
The yellow tint on the screen is the part that upsets me the most. The lead-up to the G4's release was all about how superior the screen is to the G3's. Yet the G4's I've received have had yellow tint issue (two of them so far). The screen also appears dimmer than my old G3 at max brightness as well (this is before auto dimming kicks in too.)
There seems to be a rather big shipment of G4's with yellow screens in my area. I've been to 4 different AT&T stores in the past 4 days and have seen at least 5 brand new phones with the yellow tint. It seems to be restricted to the grey metallic retail ones as well. None of the display models or the leather backed ones I've seen thus far as the yellow tint issue. This is in Houston, TX btw. I'm heading to a 5th after work in the hopes of finding a G4 with a non-defective screen.
Sorry for the crosspost - hoped I can get more eyes here...
Searched and searched so posting here and will try in general thread in case it's not tied to the watch itself.
Background: IOS user for phone, have to - developer, had Apple Watch (hated it). Got myself a Huawei Watch 2 on a deal and loved everything about it except the useless bezel and tiny screen size. Seeing as I had a great experience, I started a hunt for an LGWS. Hunt because not a single store sold one and I'm in Chicago with LOTS of stores. So online we go. There too - few resellers. Finally found one. New. Manufacture date of May 2017.
The Watch 2 worked flawlessly as functions go. Sycn'd, stayed connected, battery life of full use (all functions on - obviously no LTE), brightness at 8, raise to view on, always on display on... end of the day going to bed around 10:30 still had 50% of battery left at worst! The only issue other than cosmetic that it had was WIFI would not connect so "automatically" so to speak. So when I sent a watchmaker face, I always had to go to settings, connectivity, wifi and wait until the SSID showed connected. Then all is fine. Transferred over and enjoyed.
So the LGWS shows up. I unpair the Watch 2, connect up the LGWS and love it. The display I expected, size is great for me and off to the races. Within an hour it went from 95% to 60%. I figured - setup blues. Ignore it. Let it fully bake and see what happens. Another hour later I'm at 30%... ok onto the charger we go. Did a full charge at 6pm, by 9pm it was flat.
LGWS background: GW 2.8 loaded, Watch 2 was still running 2.0. LGWS - cellular off, raise to view on, display brightness 4, wifi connected...
But here's what I noticed: on my phone, it consistently says disconnected - tap card to connect. I tried that about 20 times, no joy. Rebooted watch and phone... no joy. Reset watch, deleted app on phone and deleted Bluetooth pairing. Re-installed Wear app, re-paired watch, left all at stock settings except shut-off cellular and OK Google listening.
That last bit is the 6-9pm going totally flat.
So. Any ideas here? Things I see - 8 vs 2 OS... obviously IOS (I get it, but why did the Huawei work so well?) and there is nothing I can do about that. Don't know if I can downgrade to 2 to see if that makes a difference... if I do, will it self-update back to 8 when it gets a chance?
I really want to keep this watch - it's exactly what I wanted (short of strap change capability). I sure hope Google doesn't give up on Wear. As a Mac/IOS dev, I can easily say this is a superior platform for the user. Truly great stuff and I want it to improve and keep improving. The iWatch bigots are really missing out!
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Cheers!
P.S. One thing I cannot do on IOS AW app is see battery usage by app. Sadly if I paired up to my old Galaxy S5 test phone, I suspect the problems may go away as it would be a first pairing of a watch to that phone plus it's not the same as the use environment.
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Sorry for the crosspost - hoped I can get more eyes here...
Searched and searched so posting here and will try in general thread in case it's not tied to the watch itself.
Background: IOS user for phone, have to - developer, had Apple Watch (hated it). Got myself a Huawei Watch 2 on a deal and loved everything about it except the useless bezel and tiny screen size. Seeing as I had a great experience, I started a hunt for an LGWS. Hunt because not a single store sold one and I'm in Chicago with LOTS of stores. So online we go. There too - few resellers. Finally found one. New. Manufacture date of May 2017.
The Watch 2 worked flawlessly as functions go. Sycn'd, stayed connected, battery life of full use (all functions on - obviously no LTE), brightness at 8, raise to view on, always on display on... end of the day going to bed around 10:30 still had 50% of battery left at worst! The only issue other than cosmetic that it had was WIFI would not connect so "automatically" so to speak. So when I sent a watchmaker face, I always had to go to settings, connectivity, wifi and wait until the SSID showed connected. Then all is fine. Transferred over and enjoyed.
So the LGWS shows up. I unpair the Watch 2, connect up the LGWS and love it. The display I expected, size is great for me and off to the races. Within an hour it went from 95% to 60%. I figured - setup blues. Ignore it. Let it fully bake and see what happens. Another hour later I'm at 30%... ok onto the charger we go. Did a full charge at 6pm, by 9pm it was flat.
LGWS background: GW 2.8 loaded, Watch 2 was still running 2.0. LGWS - cellular off, raise to view on, display brightness 4, wifi connected...
But here's what I noticed: on my phone, it consistently says disconnected - tap card to connect. I tried that about 20 times, no joy. Rebooted watch and phone... no joy. Reset watch, deleted app on phone and deleted Bluetooth pairing. Re-installed Wear app, re-paired watch, left all at stock settings except shut-off cellular and OK Google listening.
That last bit is the 6-9pm going totally flat.
So. Any ideas here? Things I see - 8 vs 2 OS... obviously IOS (I get it, but why did the Huawei work so well?) and there is nothing I can do about that. Don't know if I can downgrade to 2 to see if that makes a difference... if I do, will it self-update back to 8 when it gets a chance?
I really want to keep this watch - it's exactly what I wanted (short of strap change capability). I sure hope Google doesn't give up on Wear. As a Mac/IOS dev, I can easily say this is a superior platform for the user. Truly great stuff and I want it to improve and keep improving. The iWatch bigots are really missing out!
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Cheers!
P.S. One thing I cannot do on IOS AW app is see battery usage by app. Sadly if I paired up to my old Galaxy S5 test phone, I suspect the problems may go away as it would be a first pairing of a watch to that phone plus it's not the same as the use environment.
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Man, as I was reading this I was like.. is this guy a mind reader.. I swear to you I have the exact same issues, and the same reason for switching from Apple watch Series 3 to Android Wear (watches should be round darnit).. I almost bought the HW2 classic and for the same reason (smaller screen, giant bezel, etc.) bought the LGWS.. I sure hope someone has some advice for both of us recent converts!
Day 2... full delete of app IOS, reboot phone. Full restore of watch. Remove from bluetooth pairings. Start over from scratch.
left it mostly stock... only OK Google and Cellular turned off (no sim in there anyhow, but to be safe since technically all phones are supposed to allow 911 calls regardless of sim status)... in that stock vanilla flavor - battery held up all day. Ended the day with about 30%. WIFI was not linked to any network, so just Bluetooth to my phone. All worked great.
Day two of grand experiment.. added WIFI set to auto on. Loaded the main app I really want, Watchmaker. five hours of use 44% of battery gone - roughly 8ish percent per hour. Not terrible, but compared to vanilla. MUCH worse. Will keep playing. The mix is in there somewhere.
The shocker is that the HW2 has a slightly smaller battery (10mAh smaller) but also a MUCH smaller face. That would account for it.
I had exactly the opposite experiences with the Huawei and LGWS. I tried out a Huawei watch 2 classic for about a week, and I had TERRIBLE battery life. Like, fully charged to DEAD in 12 hours. The LG lasted me 18 - 25+ hours (the lesser on workout days). I had all connections turned off except Bluetooth, although I turned on GPS on the LG and didn't notice any battery life change. I had assistant on, fit with everything on, always on, basically most of the apps and such.
Unfortunately, it seems like the battery life you get depends on the watch, and what you have on with AW. With LTE and WiFi on, I'm sure I would have been charging the LG once at least during the day.