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I’ve always been an early adopter…whether it was audio equipment, computers, mobile phones, software and most recently, smart watches. I’ve been researching and monitoring the progress of these devices since they first started to hit the market. My first smart watch was the Sony Smartwatch, which I returned after about a week…a move I would later question. My second attempt was the Basis Carbon Steel and then I finally got the Samsung Galaxy Gear. None of these did everything I wanted and quite frankly, I’m not sure any single watch ever will…because I want features that conflict with each other. On one hand, I want a stylish metal watch that is classy looking with a suit and provides me with notifications at a glance. On the other hand, I want a fitness watch that has every sensor known to man, has built in gps and will let me listen to music through my Bluetooth headphones without having to lug my phone around. I realize that means I’m going to have to own two distinctly different smart watches. However, there is one feature that EVERY smart watch should have…but none do, as yet. The one thing that I’ve found to be lacking on every smart watch is a sensor that tells it when it’s being worn…and when it’s not. When I’m wearing my watch, I love having it notify me of a new text or email. However, when I put it on my nightstand every night, right next to my smart phone…I don’t need it to vibrate across the surface every time my phone notification goes off…it’s redundant and unnecessary. Additionally, on some models when you finally do put your watch back on the next morning, you still have to clear all the notifications that came through overnight…even though you’ve already cleared them on your phone. So, in my humble opinion, no smart watch is truly smart unless it knows when it’s being used and when it’s not! If I'm wrong and one exists, please let me know.
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I’ve always been an early adopter…whether it was audio equipment, computers, mobile phones, software and most recently, smart watches. I’ve been researching and monitoring the progress of these devices since they first started to hit the market. My first smart watch was the Sony Smartwatch, which I returned after about a week…a move I would later question. My second attempt was the Basis Carbon Steel and then I finally got the Samsung Galaxy Gear. None of these did everything I wanted and quite frankly, I’m not sure any single watch ever will…because I want features that conflict with each other. On one hand, I want a stylish metal watch that is classy looking with a suit and provides me with notifications at a glance. On the other hand, I want a fitness watch that has every sensor known to man, has built in gps and will let me listen to music through my Bluetooth headphones without having to lug my phone around. I realize that means I’m going to have to own two distinctly different smart watches. However, there is one feature that EVERY smart watch should have…but none do, as yet. The one thing that I’ve found to be lacking on every smart watch is a sensor that tells it when it’s being worn…and when it’s not. When I’m wearing my watch, I love having it notify me of a new text or email. However, when I put it on my nightstand every night, right next to my smart phone…I don’t need it to vibrate across the surface every time my phone notification goes off…it’s redundant and unnecessary. Additionally, on some models when you finally do put your watch back on the next morning, you still have to clear all the notifications that came through overnight…even though you’ve already cleared them on your phone. So, in my humble opinion, no smart watch is truly smart unless it knows when it’s being used and when it’s not! If I'm wrong and one exists, please let me know.
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Check A.I Watch it have almost all the features that you are describing
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Would you mind having some line-breaks in your post please?
edwmsjr said:
I’ve always been an early adopter…whether it was audio equipment, computers, mobile phones, software and most recently, smart watches. I’ve been researching and monitoring the progress of these devices since they first started to hit the market. My first smart watch was the Sony Smartwatch, which I returned after about a week…a move I would later question. My second attempt was the Basis Carbon Steel and then I finally got the Samsung Galaxy Gear. None of these did everything I wanted and quite frankly, I’m not sure any single watch ever will…because I want features that conflict with each other. On one hand, I want a stylish metal watch that is classy looking with a suit and provides me with notifications at a glance. On the other hand, I want a fitness watch that has every sensor known to man, has built in gps and will let me listen to music through my Bluetooth headphones without having to lug my phone around. I realize that means I’m going to have to own two distinctly different smart watches. However, there is one feature that EVERY smart watch should have…but none do, as yet. The one thing that I’ve found to be lacking on every smart watch is a sensor that tells it when it’s being worn…and when it’s not. When I’m wearing my watch, I love having it notify me of a new text or email. However, when I put it on my nightstand every night, right next to my smart phone…I don’t need it to vibrate across the surface every time my phone notification goes off…it’s redundant and unnecessary. Additionally, on some models when you finally do put your watch back on the next morning, you still have to clear all the notifications that came through overnight…even though you’ve already cleared them on your phone. So, in my humble opinion, no smart watch is truly smart unless it knows when it’s being used and when it’s not! If I'm wrong and one exists, please let me know.
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It's a very good point. It would save battery life too as it's using less processing when it's not worn.
A smart watch should have as much useful sensors as they can pack in it to make it smart.
A notification LED like the one in the Sony and other mobiles would be useful for saving battery life, you don't have too keep turning the screen on.
As smart watches become more popular they will need Apps without adverts due to the screen size.
Five likely solutions.
Contact switch (requires physical skin contact to work)
Pressure switch (if pressure on back of watch is above X = on)
Heart rate sensor (if detect heart beat then on)
Temperature Sensor (If temp is greater than X = on)
Magswitch in clasp (when clasp is closed device is "On")
Only the Pressure and Heart Rate and Magswitch are viable and would provide the fewest issues. First four would eat battery, the fifth would run into issues if near a magnetic source.
Everything else is doable, and with a transflective or E-Ink/Mirasol display, a notification light is not needed but can see where it would be nice.
Also think that this cam craze is stupid. A 480P front facing would be of far more use than some tiny um 5MP sensor camera mounted elsewhere. It could then also be used as an ambient light sensor facilitating auto brightness.
edwmsjr said:
I’ve always been an early adopter…whether it was audio equipment, computers, mobile phones, software and most recently, smart watches. I’ve been researching and monitoring the progress of these devices since they first started to hit the market. My first smart watch was the Sony Smartwatch, which I returned after about a week…a move I would later question. My second attempt was the Basis Carbon Steel and then I finally got the Samsung Galaxy Gear. None of these did everything I wanted and quite frankly, I’m not sure any single watch ever will…because I want features that conflict with each other. On one hand, I want a stylish metal watch that is classy looking with a suit and provides me with notifications at a glance. On the other hand, I want a fitness watch that has every sensor known to man, has built in gps and will let me listen to music through my Bluetooth headphones without having to lug my phone around. I realize that means I’m going to have to own two distinctly different smart watches. However, there is one feature that EVERY smart watch should have…but none do, as yet. The one thing that I’ve found to be lacking on every smart watch is a sensor that tells it when it’s being worn…and when it’s not. When I’m wearing my watch, I love having it notify me of a new text or email. However, when I put it on my nightstand every night, right next to my smart phone…I don’t need it to vibrate across the surface every time my phone notification goes off…it’s redundant and unnecessary. Additionally, on some models when you finally do put your watch back on the next morning, you still have to clear all the notifications that came through overnight…even though you’ve already cleared them on your phone. So, in my humble opinion, no smart watch is truly smart unless it knows when it’s being used and when it’s not! If I'm wrong and one exists, please let me know.
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You need a Pebble bro.
Has DND settings for night time, syncs to phone notifications. I'm using mine on jailbroken i5 and smartwatch+ lets me reply to notifications from the watch, call people. Has massive battery life. Pebble Steel is stylish and functional. I have a Pebble (original) with a wide leather band, looks sweet.
Only thing it can't do is prevent you lugging your phone about, but the BT range on the pebble is about 20-30m in my experience, so you may get away with it at the gym/home/office. I know i can walk to the printer and such at work without my phone, or make a coffee. And at home i can leave the iphone in a dock to play, and change songs and volume while doing the dishes. (yep. pebble is waterproof.)
Got mine second hand for $80. what have you got to lose :victory:
Talking about sensors... http://m.europe.wsj.com/articles/apple-plans-multiple-designs-for-smartwatch-1403245062?mobile=y
Apple's rumoured watch packed with sensors. Wonder if it'll be truly smart. Even if it's the 'best watch' you'll need to buy an iPhone to use it until they find a hack for it.
... how about a pebble like watch but with WiFi, GPS and packed with sensors. The battery wouldn't 't last as long if you use the WiFi. But if you don't then it should last just as long. And an option to have a cam in the strap or no cam at all.
As mentioned above the perfect watch is not one watch, but perhaps two.
1. A non sim pebble like with better battery life with IP67. With loads of sensors!
2. Sim watch transflective colour screen packed with features but shorter battery life and not IP67. With loads of sensors!
Either way the traditional way of opening an app for a specific need will be replaced with a totally new way of accessing info. An ambient service that automatically brings info to your screen as you change your environment. Morning + at home = daily schedule, traffic news, work email only, weather... Etc. At home at evening = personal emails only, audio player, instagram... Etc. Opening an App will be phased out.
Google glasses is doing it already. Android wear is aiming for it.
And when these 'hyperaware' wearable start sensing and working with other hyperaware wearables... that's when the fun really begins.
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Off topic slightly, I've asked the Moderators to make a forum or thread for general smartwatch discussion, I thought to have it next to where the Sony, pebble, Samsung and other Smart watch is... At the uppermost level. I've asked them to let me know if they agree or not. Let's see what they say.
Has anyone got one of these yet???
Description:
RAM:512MB
ROM:4GB
SIM card:Micro Sim; 3G supported
Display: 1.39 inch AMOLED whole round HD; resolution: 400*400 pixel; 260000 colors
Touch screen: OGS Capacitive Screen,full bonding technology
Bluetooth:Ver 4.0+Wifi+GPRS
Battery:350mAh High Power Polymer battery；Bluetooth connection standby :>1 Week；Normal use: > 2 days
Interface:Magnetic connect, charge and data transfer
Main function:
Phone function:WCDMA850/2100,850/1900,900/1900,900/2100
SMS:Local SMS
Bluetooth SMS
Entertainment:Local MP3、MP4、AVI；
bluetooth music play；
Caller ID display:Anti-lost; Sleep monitor; Sedentary remind;
Clock face:11 faces; Click to switch
Anti-lost:Anti-lost remind
Bidirectional search；
Pedometer:Step records, Calories records, Distance records;
Others:Google Service, google play,google map,Alarm clock. Calendar;Stopwatch.Calculators etc
Photograph:Watch photograph : saved in watch, image format: PNG, JPG
Remote camera：saved in phone; image format: PNG, JPG
Heart rate monitor:Yes
Google Playstore,Google map
Info bluetooth sync:QQ, WeChat,Twitter, Facebook, SMS, Twitter, News, ect
I wonder what these will be like?
Hi, i am learning how to use it, haha
any body??
We will be interested in these too
Yes I have mine. Very nice , same sort of issues as i2 and they are trying to iron them out before full release. Very responsive, I haven't got Google running on mine yet , cannot find the correct version but they have said it will have it and I will get the firmware hopefully tomorrow to try. I think the 1900 frequency the USA want will also be there.
I did try to get the play store etc from i2 firmware but not sure what files, also can't get root the same way I did with i2.
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Yes I have mine. Very nice , same sort of issues as i2 and they are trying to iron them out before full release. Very responsive, I haven't got Google running on mine yet , cannot find the correct version but they have said it will have it and I will get the firmware hopefully tomorrow to try. I think the 1900 frequency the USA want will also be there.
I did try to get the play store etc from i2 firmware but not sure what files, also can't get root the same way I did with i2.
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I have heard that there will be an update soon to fix this stuff as well so that's good :good:
Yes , was gonna be today but supposedly power out in there area all day.
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Hello!
I have a Kingwear KW18.
But that was abandoned Kingwear KW18 stopped during the firmware upgrade .
Please Kingwear KW18 the firmware.
Thank you.
Send me video or pics to my email address, [email protected]
We will find out the reason and give you solutions.
Photos taken with watch , a bit overcast here today but for a watch i think they are good.
New updated firmware.
From the beautiful Zoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g_bZ9wRFjI
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Photos taken with watch , a bit overcast here today but for a watch i think they are good.
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Yes
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What material is the band? Wondering if the white one would become sweat stained and gross looking over time.
watch band material is TPU70, better than silica gel
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watch band material is TPU70, better than silica gel
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But the 350mah battery is not too small (will last less than a day)? Can you receive, no sim inserted, by phone with bluetooth, phone calls, messages and applications, notifications?
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But the 350mah battery is not too small (will last less than a day)? Can you receive, no sim inserted, by phone with bluetooth, phone calls, messages and applications, notifications?
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Not that good. There is a companion app for Android Smartphones available, but it is very buggy and stops BT-Connection very often.
This watches are meant to be used "standalone".
First impression
I just got this watch today, via DHL. I contacted Zoe and she replied very fast. I paid the watch via PayPal on monday and 7 days later, I got it to my (EU) address...super fast. Thank you Zoe.
I got the black color and new firmware installed (factory installed, 07.july).
And here is my first impresion...
PRO
- great looking watch. I own a few smart watches and this is by far the best looking one.
- very good quality. Both the band and housing are of great quality. It realy surprised me.
- comfortable. Light and not too big on my wrist...and I have skiny wrists
- fast. No stutter or lag what so ever.
- Bluetooth for calls and music over headset is working. This was one of the biggest worries I had. I have no desire to look like James Bond while talking to my watch
- speaker on the watch is super loud (compared to other watches I own) and easy to hear even in noisy enviroment
- camera. Solid pictures from souch a small camera.
CON
- Screen. This CON realy surprised me and I think it is only relevant to my watch and not all of them (screen error, firmware,..?). It is using an AMOLED screen and I expected superior screen to all others I own and it is supposed to be in PRO section. But unfortunately when I try to set up screen brightnes to 75%-100%, the screen gets washed out in blue tint. Very strong discolouration...it is almost unusable. Why would I need to set it up to 100% you ask...well, if I want to use it in direct sunlight, I must increase the brightnes.
One of the worries is battery life. With only 350mah of battery and me using a SIM card and Bluetooth headset, I will have to test it to give an opinion.
All in all I am still very impressed by this smartwatch.
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Has anyone got one of these yet???
Description:
RAM:512MB
ROM:4GB
SIM card:Micro Sim; 3G supported
Display: 1.39 inch AMOLED whole round HD; resolution: 400*400 pixel; 260000 colors
Touch screen: OGS Capacitive Screen,full bonding technology
Bluetooth:Ver 4.0+Wifi+GPRS
Battery:350mAh High Power Polymer battery；Bluetooth connection standby :>1 Week；Normal use: > 2 days
Interface:Magnetic connect, charge and data transfer
Main function:
Phone function:WCDMA850/2100,850/1900,900/1900,900/2100
SMS:Local SMS
Bluetooth SMS
Entertainment:Local MP3、MP4、AVI；
bluetooth music play；
Caller ID display:Anti-lost; Sleep monitor; Sedentary remind;
Clock face:11 faces; Click to switch
Anti-lost:Anti-lost remind
Bidirectional search；
Pedometer:Step records, Calories records, Distance records;
Others:Google Service, google play,google map,Alarm clock. Calendar;Stopwatch.Calculators etc
Photograph:Watch photograph : saved in watch, image format: PNG, JPG
Remote camera：saved in phone; image format: PNG, JPG
Heart rate monitor:Yes
Google Playstore,Google map
Info bluetooth sync:QQ, WeChat,Twitter, Facebook, SMS, Twitter, News, ect
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I like to see how it looks like when wear.
Hi,
I was searching for a Smartwatch and ended in ordering a (Chinese) Lemfo LF16 with full Android 5.1, ...
Interesting for me was that it seems to be a nice watch, smartphone functions, all connectivities possible and also some health function like pedometer, etc.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Watch LF16
Someone else having this one and already experience?
What are you thinking of this watch?
When I receive my, I will post feedback...
Thanks
giovanne
I'm anxious to hear more from people on this, and if there are any hacks and such for it. I dreadfully searched for days for the standalone smartwatch that was best for me, in the price range of this thing, and settled on this one for it's quick access sim slot (I will be alternating between this and the Nexus 5X), loud speaker (which is on the side, not on the wrist/bottom) because I need to hear my notifications), big screen, and not overly geeky looks. Hopefully it's as good as it seams and I don't regret my choice!
Well,
Here is a quick list of what I have discovered so far. Depending on what you will be using it for, you will either really love it or really hate it!
I'm using it mostly for the Bluetooth MP3 player features in addition to the basic watch.
Pros
• Nice design ala "Gear S3
• I can finally walk down the street with my Bluetooth music playing and swinging my arms without intermittent cutting out!
• The Bluetooth sound reproduction is really good even with stock player.
• Speaker nice and load.
• The weather update now works using your phone data and no longer request that you turn on your GPS.
• Access Sim with requiring the removal of back cover.
• Got rid of the ugly backgrounds within Notification screen, just a sweet black (well almost black)
Cons
• Operating system seems very beta as it has the most ugly watch faces ever released for a Lemfo Android watch, and leaves us with only 2 tolerable faces (hence incomplete OS)
• Unable to load up custom watch faces via "Clockskin any more.
• Watchstrap LUGS have been removed so not custom watch strap mods
• Silver bezel only comes with white band.
• Watch strap is very flimsy compared to the silicone strap available with the X3 Plus
• Watch is toted as, "Ultra thin" but it is not. The bezel is low profile, but there is more to the body although beveled in, so the watch has an unattractive umbrella look to it.
• Bezel is not stainless steel but some other lighter metal, maybe Aluminum or Titanium Alloy, so the quality feels almost Toy like. (so don't bump it!) My X5 still rules!
• Lemfo cut cost by providing a less than adequate charging cable that has poor magnet strength.
• I bought two of these watches and only one of the chargers worked. (Murphy's Law)
• When booting to recovery, there is no way to navigate the menu as it only has one button
• When navigating some of the app functions user is unable to adjust a function that requires swiping as this brings you back to a previous screen (Try to increase the volume by swiping without backing out of the function!
• Still unable to add App widgets to existing basic three (weather, fitness, music etc)
• Some screens don't allow you to go one step back by swiping right, but instead you have to press the power button and start again.
• At times "Data" connection seems to keep turning it self off. I think it happens after phone goes to sleep for a period of time, but the function to disable "turning off the data" is no longer within the "Display" section.
• Screen is promoted as, "Amoled" but the blacks still appear back-lit!
Enable Data
Update,
Enabling data now has its own icon within the quick access screen. I think that I was disabling this, not knowing what it was and therefore concluded that the data was turning itself off.
Thanks for the really good and detailled feedback.
I got mine LF16 also in the meantime.
Overall I can agree with you "Star_Inc".
For my first tests and usage I only want to use it as "normal" clock/watch and to try the pedometer.
For the first tests and to have max. bat-life I use the watch in Flightmode without (GPS, GSM, WLAN,...)
For the normal clock I tested with custom ClockFace handling.
- apk - Clockfaces available for the KW88 clock will work on the LF16 too
- "ClockSkin" folder method works with e.g. the (standalone) launcher/app from Eric: http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com/thread/267/standalone-clockskin-engine-apk-version
First pedometer tests where ok - will go on testing
Bluetooth with my Oneplus 3 Smartphone is working (but I don't like all the notifications on the watch)
Bluetooth filetransfer from Smartphone to LF16 is working (e.g. useful when transfering a new apk to the watch)
The suggested APP WiWear(SinWear) for the phone to connect is "horrible"!
I will go on testing...
does anyone know how i enabled syncing?
What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.
Hey Guys
I have already received my watch i agree with stark_inc, but i see the quality of the bezel is good
the overall feedback after 2 days is good, except 2 things
1. the terrific support program WiiWear (SinWear), this is the only way to connect the watch to my phone, unfortunately failed to connect it to Android Wear, MediaTEK Smart Device or Fundo, i hope some body helps with this
2. i cant add more watch faces also
for battery life it is ok to keep in your hand 1 day (provided you don't go through it many), thickness is ok, i think it was to be better if it is 1.3" instead of 1.39"
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does anyone know how i enabled syncing?
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Only i can sync the watch to the phone through the rubbish program WiiWear
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Hav4k said:
What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.
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if you are going to use it much, it won't go with you for 1 day
turning off wifi will support battery significantly
GPS is ok i get my location exactly
Hey Guys
I tried ClockSkin Launcher and it is working fine
the major issue for me now that i cannot connect the watch to the phone except via this very poor WiiConnect (SinaWear) app, even it doesn't sync the steps and it really fool app, i hope someone can help how we connect the watch to Apps like Android Wear or any other useful app!
I'm Working On Something Wonderful!
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!
@Stark_Inc, hey man, if you can do that, kudos, I'll try it out. Can you elaborate on what you're doing, other than making a ROM for these phones? What is it based on? Stock? Or using LF16 rom and just editing the watchface handling?
I think a new ROM is certainly not a bad idea if it can be done - it may allow us to more easily fix the rest of the problems, which I agree are many.
I'm soooo disappointed with this thing (LF16). I chose it because of the easy access of the SIM card because I thought I'd like to swap between phone and this, but the battery life, if the watch is used, SUCKS, and charging "in the field" is pointless given how lousy the connection is (bad format anyway). Starting to think what I would have preferred isn't a full android watch in the first place - but more like Android Wear. I'm really hoping people who are smarter than me save the day with new ROMs and other fixes to make it worth owning.
I didn't spend 100 bucks for a watch. I honestly don't care a whole lot for watches (jewelry in general), I paid for a smart device. What is the point if you can't use it all day - which you can't. You can use it as a watch all day. I haven't had the guts to try it with my sim card yet. I doubt it would be much better. But turning off BT and WiFi certainly improved battery life by a TON. But what's the point?
I thought it would be easy to find a replacement companion app for this thing (for smartphone) but nothing works with it. Even the one they want you to use is not only **** even it if it worked, but for me crashes (Nexus 5X with 7.1.1) ever time it connects. I can't track fitness for ****. Even Google Fit - um, where's the heart-rate data collection? I tried apps both directly on the watch and the Nexus - nothing seems to collect historic data.
I think some of my problems are more with "stand-alone Android" watches more then the LF16, but since this is my first, I could be wrong.
KW88/LF16 Lite and Clean
So i'm moving away from my original idea of porting a "ClockSkin" friendly rom, and instead I am working to make the KW88/LF16 Rom more cleaner, lite'r and battery friendly. In fact, I have sought of started to make the UI more like the GEAR S3. I'll keep you posted.
Oh. I've also installed my own clock face of preference within the existing WatchApp engine, and I am sure I should be able to activate other dormant faces in the future.
someone try to add this keyboard ? https://www.kickstarter.com/project...oard-the-first-dedicated-smartwatch-k?lang=fr
i'm looking to a faces like this too, i love one hand watch
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Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!
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This should be great!
One question, KW88 watch is almost (except camera) the same HW than LF16, Do you Know if it's possible to flash KW88 ROMs in LF16?. Support for KW88 seems to be much better than LF16.
Small back from this watch I have for less than a week, the battery holds about 8 hours, without playing too much, black screen, not the needles in permanent lighting, I hope the arrival of a rom by Stark_Inc It would be really good, optimize the duration of the battery, make that one can further decrease the brightness, I have a sim card in and the data connections active. If not, I find it beautiful. I would like the screen to display the hours all the time, with a duration of 10 hours would really bein, is it a dream? I am on the orange network france.
Hi, I'm waiting form my LF16 to arrive (I guess I would go with the LEM5 for the 1GB of RAM, but I've noticed it after my watch was shipped ),
I'm spending my time planning my actions with itm so...
- Is kingoroot working on this watch to gain root access?
- is it possible (and needed) to activate swap on this watch?
- any list of mods/customization existing - maybe a new thread, or a sticky?
I hope people can make this watch worth the money, as I read it is not really that good....
Hi. I got this smartwatch for my son for xmas and I have not being able to get a pre-pay service provider to get a sim card for it. my son does not have a cell phone that is why we got him the watch but where ever i take it they say that wont work with their network. Can somebody please help me to finish with my son xmas present.
Thank you
Hi ,
The watch work with : 3G WCDMA 850/2100 ; 2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 quad-bandes Network .
You have to find the telephone company that uses its frequencies .
Has anyone though about installing a bigger battery on this watch? I have seen some on eBay up to 1200ma. This would definitely sort out the battery problems but I have no idea whether or not they are safe to install or even what type of battery this watch uses as I haven't opened it up.
Something I was thinking about doing but not sure if it can be done
Hi Karl, can you send me the links to the ebay store please ? tnx , now the automnomy of my watch the 3 / 4 days are 5 hours max !
Ok so I'm looking to get a new watch and decided to give a smart watch a try. I had a Chinese U8 watch from years ago that I hated but things have moved on from that horrible thing.
I have been looking and I'm not sure whether to go for something with AW 2.0 (possibly the Hauwei) or whether to go for a Chinese full android watch (possibly the D5+).
I'm steering clear of anything Chinese running their own software as they are all pretty generic and all pretty crap.
I'm not looking for anything too amazing and won't be using it for calls. I won't be putting a sim/SD card into the watch so tethering of some kind is a must.
Will mostly be used for:
Time, duh.. (so the turning wrist wake up would be good)
Notifications (mostly reading, on the odd chance I do want to reply using the watch a voice command would be good but not essential)
Some slight messing around when I'm bored.
I have ruined my brain with articles/YouTube videos but it seems to be hard to find a definitive answer to this.
i own a lg urbane 2 and a lemfo lem5.
espacially if you need no calls, take wear. don;t know about huawei, but battery life of the lg and the lemfo are worlds from each other.
i use the watch for calls, email, almost everything. the lemfo will not go through the day.
wear on the other hand, is another world and much harder to use (when using standalone, can't judge whiel i not use it as a companion device)
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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I like it a lot, but the problem with it is the same as with other smaller Chinese brands: they don't provide any source code to the public, so everything has to be reverse engineered - the Kospet Hope already has TWRP and root, but a custom FW with all the goodies without the useless "Fitness" app (it would be nice, but the one on the watch is pure crap) and other bloatware would be AMAZING!
My advice is: the Kospet Hope 4G 3/32 is a great watch, but don't buy the Lite version if you haven't already ordered it. If you have, then you will enjoy that too! )
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Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite,
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Have had the Lite for 3 days and am quite disappointed. Great hardware, but useless firmware/OS, and there is no getting around it, that I have found...
The GPS is not working with the fitness app, so forget about tracing a map or route or whatever. Google Maps is useless, under this resolution.
You can check your pulse with the built in app, which is useless, no history or syncing to the phone. Even if it did, the accuracy is terrible. I had HIGHER pulse sitting in my car than during running.
Yes, you can download any app from the store, but remember the screen is 320x320... Do you have any idea how Facebook looks on 320x320?? It's half VGA!! Imagine that your phone screen is a quarter the size of you KEYBOARD. Now try to run the phone on that small size, that how an Android phone works and looks like...
Even the watch faces are terrible, and I still haven't found a way to add any.
It is a beautiful watch, quite bulky (too much), but it is mostly useless. If someone does a Wear Os ROM for it, it might be a killer watch, but definitely not with this firmware/OS.
Thinking of selling it and getting an Amazfit.
This seems like the same story for all these Chinese no brand watches: good hardware, garbage software !
Why don't they just open the whole thing up as open source and within a year you'd probably have a better platform than Android Wear. I guess they don't do this because then they wouldn't be able to hide all of the government mandated spyware to pillage your personal info.
Hope is the real deal.. Just wish the software was more customizable.
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite,
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Hi all,
I just got mine last week.
The good:
Great battery life
Full android means u can install anything .. if you choose to add anything.
Great specs and everything works like advertised.
All features work with no issues whatsoever.
Can put a sim card in it and make it work like a full phone.
Can import contacts from google and whatapp and so on.
Camera is great in lighted areas .. better than I expected but it is limited by watch size.
Screen is gorgeous and you get access to unlimited watch faces from google.
Bluetooth integration with phone and wireless and 4G work perfectly.
Waking screen on hand raise works great.
Ambient watch is perfect.
Screen and quality of the watch is top notch.
Charges back to full in an hour.
The wish list:
Better software that would allow you to customize your menus and move things around.
Ability to map the button presses so I can add google assistant to a button
Not so good:
Very hard to read the tiny letters of any messages you get in the menus
In bright sunlight it is hard to see the screen and the ambient clock
The charging cable connection can be weak and disconnect if in a shaking backpack.
Honestly, for the low price you pay and the battery life and quality you get, it is great and as it gets with smart watches.
Cheers.
Tony
"OK Google"
marley666 said:
Hi all,
I just got mine last week.
The good:
Great battery life
Full android means u can install anything .. if you choose to add anything.
Great specs and everything works like advertised.
All features work with no issues whatsoever.
Can put a sim card in it and make it work like a full phone.
Can import contacts from google and whatapp and so on.
Camera is great in lighted areas .. better than I expected but it is limited by watch size.
Screen is gorgeous and you get access to unlimited watch faces from google.
Bluetooth integration with phone and wireless and 4G work perfectly.
Waking screen on hand raise works great.
Ambient watch is perfect.
Screen and quality of the watch is top notch.
Charges back to full in an hour.
The wish list:
Better software that would allow you to customize your menus and move things around.
Ability to map the button presses so I can add google assistant to a button
Not so good:
Very hard to read the tiny letters of any messages you get in the menus
In bright sunlight it is hard to see the screen and the ambient clock
The charging cable connection can be weak and disconnect if in a shaking backpack.
Honestly, for the low price you pay and the battery life and quality you get, it is great and as it gets with smart watches.
Cheers.
Tony
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there is no need to map a button to get google assistant, you just go to settings, languages & input, virtual keyboard, select google voice typing, and then voice match, enable "ok google" any time and unlock with voice match and you'll be able to activate google assistant on any screen, that do not awake the watch unless you hit one button, but once you do just say "ok/hey google" working on my kopet Optimus pro
Firmware updates: http://bbs.kospet.com/forum.php?gid=44
For those who are interested: I got one
All firmware, hacking, tweaking and changing here on my page: https://sites.google.com/site/tweakradje/android/kospet-hope-lite
I bought the Kospet Optimus Pro and had problems with it after a day of use. The touch screen would go crazy sometime. Couldn't do anything with it. Did a few full reset, but eventually the problem came back. Think it was my last time buying a Chinese watch. In principle, the hardware specs is good. But, the software is garbage. And with me, the touch screen too. Upon searching in YouTube, I saw a person with the same problem. So, I would stay away from it. But of course, my was probably defective. Even so, I'll stick with a name brand that provide warranty within my country.
My findings after a month. No big issues.
firmware 03052019
Problems:
- wrist raise gesture doesn't always work
- some notifications disappear (like with OsmAnd/maps/vending and existing route)
- sort apps (by name) in launcher
- google voice search long press back-button?
- more accurate heart rate monitor
- glass in not gorilla glass, scratches
- screen consumes too much power
Whish:
- tap watch face actions like weather (on weather area on watchface) etc...
- round to square user zoom factor
- screen refresh rate to 30 Hz or less?
- set screen color intensity
- long press app in launcher > properties and uninstall
- extra launcher app overview like 3x3
- always on time digital/analog user selectable
Cheers
Issues on Kospet Hope
Hello
Cons:
1. the 400x400 resolution of display give us an impredictable screen which is hard to tap at the corner (the third-party applications like any browser give a very little interface who it is inoperable without apk who could changing the resolution of the screen).
2. the autonomy of battery is a big fault : with 2 hour of browsing in 4G connection, 7 hours of bluetooth connection with my Note 4 without screen on, half of the intensity of the screen all the time and 2 hours of working in settings tab,without 4G connection of mobile data it means 11 hours of a real life of battery! A big caca!
3. the keyboard is have many problems to tap at the edge so it very hard to write something in this tiny layout so facebook and Messenger are not suitable for these reasons;
4.Sometime the gesture"raise hand to turn on the screen" not works!
5. the wiiwatch2 it is big caca!
6. the Wach Droid Phone and assistant lose, ramdomly, the link with smartwatch (bluetooth connection)
7.My old smartwatch ZGPax S8 could make a decent browsing at only 240x240 pixels resolution, with translucent keyboard apllication "Flit Keyboard". The Kospet Hope it is in backyard, 10 years ago!
8. In charging mode with bluetooth on or wi-fi turning on, it is very hot
9. very thick! not for women!
10. a very unusefull interface of android 7.1.1
11. Iwill not buy another one !
Pro:
1.Speed.
2. Display Amoled
3. Sound
4.Good construction
5.Faces of watch
6.good camera pictures (5 MPx real, not interpolatwd by software) but worst video recording
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Hi there! Ive got the update but cant really instal ... the screen doesnt show the OK button , .... i switch on rectangularish mode but no luck eaven wost
tweakradje said:
My findings after a month. No big issues.
firmware 03052019
Problems:
- wrist raise gesture doesn't always work
- some notifications disappear (like with OsmAnd/maps/vending and existing route)
- sort apps (by name) in launcher
- google voice search long press back-button?
- more accurate heart rate monitor
- glass in not gorilla glass, scratches
- screen consumes too much power
Whish:
- tap watch face actions like weather (on weather area on watchface) etc...
- round to square user zoom factor
- screen refresh rate to 30 Hz or less?
- set screen color intensity
- long press app in launcher > properties and uninstall
- extra launcher app overview like 3x3
- always on time digital/analog user selectable
Cheers
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hello do you now how to unlock bootloader thnx?
@terminator152 ??? Never heard of bootlock on Koset Hope.
tweakradje said:
@terminator152 ??? Never heard of bootlock on Koset Hope.
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sorry im using BRAVE not Hope 6.0 android and bootloader is locked uff i cant find anywhere how to unlock it!!!!