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I am thinking about switching to the 6p. 808 has been a letdown for me and I am worried about future updates because of lenovo.
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I am thinking about switching to the 6p. 808 has been a letdown for me and I am worried about future updates because of lenovo.
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Of course it is the worth, 6p is a much better phone than mxp but it costs more (obviously) and the thing that i dont like about it is the glass camera frame (so ugly)
Personally, I wouldn't switch to a nexus. Its a great phone, sure, but I like having an SD card slot. That and the price of the 6p.
If that doesn't sway your decision, I'd say go for it otherwise.
This video is pretty interesting... Especially around 6:30 when both phones are nice and hot and he runs Antutu benchmark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvCM1McR42Q
I just made the switch about 3 weeks ago. For me it was especially worth it since I could sell my X for the same purchase price of a refurb 6p. But Even if there were a price difference, it's a worthwhile upgrade for me. The only thing to keep in mind is Google is probably going to pump out a new nexus phone or two this fall hopefully with Snapdragon 820's onboard. THe 820 is leaps and bounds above the 810 in the 6p and the 808 in the X and I'm looking forward to my next phone having one. It really comes down to your willingness to wait with an admittedly great Moto X for the new Nexus or jump up to a fantastic experience from the current offering.
Pure nexus on 6p vs MotoX is a much smoother experience in my opinion having run them side by side for a few days.
I've ditched 6p for MXPE for a couple of reasons.
The main reason for this was this awful AMOLED screen. It has a lot of issues and even if you are lucky enough and won't get any pink spots or greenish tones to your screen, you'll still get awful ghosting of dark objects with black backgrounds and small letters will fall apart while scrolling. This was driving me nuts and just after a week of using this crappy screen I've sold 6p and bought MXPE. Oh, and also, just in a week, there was a lot of noticeable burn-ins around navbar and status bar. I just don't want to know, what will happen to this screen in a year.
So, here are my personal reasons to choose 6p over MXPE:
1) Amazing camera. MXPE has awful camera, it is usable only in perfect conditions and despite having 21 mpx it just doesn't deliver such great pictures, as 6p does.
2) Performance. Even though I've thought 6p was a little slower then Nexus 5, MXPE is really disappointing. Snapdragon 808 can't cope with QHD screen. Stutters all over the place, scroll is nowhere as smooth as it was back in 2014 with Nexus 5 and Oneplus One.
3) Community. After a couple of years with Nexuses, I can't understand, why there are so few people trying to develop something for this phone. With open-sourced kernel, opened bootloader, such low price and near-stock official firmware I thought MXPE would gather a lot of developers. But still, after more than half a year after release, there is still no fully-functional Cyanogenmod ROM, for instance.
4) Technologies. Type C interface and Nexus Imprint are nice, but they are not necessary.
But, as well, I can mention, why MXPE is better, than 6p:
1) Design. This is not a huge deal, for me both of these phones look and feel great. I just preferred a little more roundness in Motorola, as well as textured back cover. It's nicer and a lot more grippier, than aluminum in 6p.
2) Screen. As mentioned above, this was a deal-breaker for me. IPS is a lot better technology, than AMOLED. IMHO, of course. But never again, AMOLED just won't work for me unless engineers figure out, how to make every single pixel (LED) operate at 60+ Hz frequency for smooth transitions.
3) Speakers. Even though 6p also has front-facing speakers, Motorola's speakers are way nicer. They sound amazing.
4) Build quality. 6p feels a bit tender and weak. It feels like it can be broken in half easily. Motorola is built to last, it feels sturdy. I am pretty sure it will survive a couple of drops. Even in water, according to IP52 resistance. Of course this certificate means that it'll survive a rain, but I am pretty sure it can survive a couple of seconds in water in case of accident.
Well, the (successor?) to the Mix has finally launched and I'm quite disappointed about what it turned out to be.
When the Mix was launched, it was one of a kind and a head-turner with almost everything you could ask for in a smartphone (minus the camera of course). But now, the Mix 2 only seems to be an incremental update with many corners cut.
1. The chin is just 12%smaller and looks much larger than those teasers Xiaomi released from time to time.
2. The screen resolution or type hasn't changed. Just slightly modified for the 18:9 aspect ratio. (2160x1080 vs 2040x1080). Also with the new aspect ratio, the overall screen real-estate has shrunk.
Would have appreciated a switch to AMOLED and a higher resolution to call it an upgrade.
3. Of course the chipset has been updated to the latest but I was never too excited about the Snapdragon 835 considering the 821 is no slouch.
4. The camera was a much needed upgrade and I appreciate that they've managed to squeeze in the Sony IMX386. Then again, this isn't a flagship camera compared to the competition but obviously better than that of the current Mix. So it's very much welcome but not a defining feature. Talking about the front camera, I guess Xiaomi has once again put a mediocre POS in there judging by the fact they didn't make a fuss about it.
5. To squeeze in the camera + OIS and the 18:9 aspect ratio, they've shredded 1000mah from the battery which is very disappointing. I guess I am most disappointed about this aspect.
6. No 3.5mm jack. - I wouldn't have been disappointed by the lack of 3.5mm if the rest of the specsheet were damn impressive and on par with other flagships. But it looks like Xiaomi just wanted to be more like Apple here. Removed the jack for no reason. I see myself using the headphone jack from time to time and I believe everyone does at times. Also, I doubt the Mix 2's audio via the provided USB-C adapter can match the Original Mix's inbuilt powerful headphone amp unless you invest in an external DAC.
When the Mi Mix was launched, it was above every other flagship of the time, except maybe the camera. It gave the Galaxy S7 Edge a run for it's money. It was bold and beautiful.
I gladly paid more than a Galaxy S7 Edge to get this and didn't regret.
But looking at the Mix 2, I don't know whether it stands a chance against the Galaxy S8, especially considering prices of the S8/S8+ has dropped after the launch of the Note 8. Slim bezels are not a defining feature anymore as almost everyone has caught up and so, I feel that the Mix 2 doesn't have anything which will make it stand out against the competition.
I don't see it as a worthy upgrade to the original Mix. It is just how the Galaxy Note 2 was to the Original Galaxy Note with slight spec bump and nothing exciting if anyone remembers.
To conclude, I don't see how this would compel any existing users to upgrade. Morover I don't see the specsheet motivating any new buyers to choose this over a similarly priced S8+.
For those who are still considering getting a Mix, my opinion would be to get the Original one while it is still available for a discount as Xiaomi usually pulls the device from the market soon after the successor is out, most likely because they can't afford to produce and sell the previous gen device at a very low price. For those actually considering spending on a Mix 2, the S8/S8+ is now similarly priced (check ebay) in most markets and offer better value for your money.
What are your thoughts?
Agree with pretty much everything you said but the tiny screen of the new model kills it for me. I find the note 8 tiny after using the Mix for so long. I wish they made a Mix 2+ with a 6.4" display, I would so pay for that.
I'm staying with the original Mix.
Totally agreed. It was hardly an upgrade by any means. I was honestly more impressed with Xiaomi's MI Note Pro than the Mix 2, Lol. That's the problem with scaling to fast though. The Mix was such a market turner when it came out, if you're a company with certain stylistic choices, it's hard to know how to follow-up.
This is what frustrates me with phone releases, after a good one step forward a company makes two steps back with the next.
Losing the headphone jack and dropping so much battery capacity, 25%....
I know I will never get exactly everything from a phone, there will always be compromise and I am OK with that but stop removing the great features that the previous phone had, the new is supposed to be better than the old!
They changed the aspect ratio. OK, I guess I can live with that. They reduced the screen size. OK, that's starting to hurt but I guess I can live with that too.
They removed the headphone jack. OK, I guess I live with that too but stop already!
No, then they cripple the battery and the icing on the cake, the camera bump protrudes more than on the old phone!
I like to think I'm a reasonable guy. OK, I get it, the new camera is larger. OIS may need more space too. Well, how about you make the phone thicker so that the camera is completely flush with the body and use that extra space for a bigger battery and maybe to bring the headphone jack back?
They reduced the bottom bezel by 12%, they should have worked on using that bezel to put capacitive buttons on it instead of the on screen buttons.
Whatever sales they do achieve, I am convinced that a phone with a better battery, a camera flush with body and a capacitive bottom bezel would sell better...
It was supposed to have the 836 before it was announced that there wouldn't even be an 836, which at least would have given it an edge performance-wise and extended its life.
With the big drop in battery, I don't think it would have been wise to go UHD anyway. Also, being HD, we get better performance in general (particularly in games) since it doesn't have to drive all those extra pixels. AMOLED would have been nice though.
The lack of the headphone jack is a big loss for some, especially considering the Mix had one of the best DACs out there. I don't use headphones that much but I'd still miss it if it was gone.
If they'd just taken the Mix and dropped in an 835 and a better camera I'd probably have upgraded.
Agree with all the points you've made and while it's a disappointment, I'm glad that my almost 1 year old mi mix has features I can appreciate over it's successor.
The bezels look more impressive on the first mix and I can't believe they dropped the battery capacity by that much and removed the headphone jack !
I'm disappointed too
No 3.5mm jack
No OLED
and why!?! 5.99? I want at least 6.4 inch
The camera stands out
and a 1000mha smaller battery?
besides, I don't like the speaker upstairs either,
Only the band 20 support would be useful for me as a German.
But there I can also get a NOTE 8....
but now it will probably stay the good old mi mix 256 for a long time.
or the iphone 8
No reason to buy 1 if you have the mix, thought it was going to be something special
If this is their idea of a better phone, then sadly I see my next phone being the Note 9.
For now I'm sticking with the Mix 1.
It's a notable drop in screen size from the Mix 1.
It's like 15% smaller (roughly 15.64 vs 16.93 sq inches).
Smaller than the galaxy note 8, although it's 'shorter'.
It's nice to see them fixing the major issues from the Mix1 (camera, speaker).
Hopefully it's more drop proof now, too.
But it's no longer the biggest screen/battery for a pocketable phone, and that's a major loss,
So now you ask - what's the point? It it really THAT much better looking than other phones?
Not really.
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It is just how the Galaxy Note 2 was to the Original Galaxy Note with slight spec bump and nothing exciting if anyone remembers.
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I was a VERY early adopter of the Galaxy note 1, and I can assure you - the galaxy note 2 was significantly better than the galaxy note 1 and I can't recall a single negative. The note 1 was definitely a 'market test device' as there were NO large screen phones at the time. It was clunky as hell, while the note 2 was a wonderful phone
One arguable downside was the screen aspect ratio 'dropped' from 16:10 to 16:9, but they made the screen size bigger (5.3 to 5.5) to compensate and the overall screen size stayed the same..
I would have been nice for xiaomi to release a 'full size' 6.4 and the current 'smaller' version for people who REALLY want one handed use or whatever. I guess they don't have enough 'ceramic' capacity to do that. Really quite a shame. I imagine the screen to bezel ratio would be even higher on a larger phone.
I'm also disappointed of Xiaomi I was hoping for a smaller chin instead we've got a smaller phone without head phone jack, that's messed up yo, I'm sticking with my mix till next year when they come up with a worthy phone to upgrade to. No head phone jack? now they are copying apple on that, damn you Xiaomi,
I'm bound to get the better products developed by phone manufacturers it seems ... Oneplus One was an amazing phone and already is a legend, Mi Mix a stunning concept phone that set new grounds in the industry.
I'm glad I made the right choice 2 months ago and went for the 1st gen, instead of waiting for the next one and spend more cash for little to no improvements in what's definitely more crucial to me, i.e. screen size and battery than a better camera. Next gen SoC won't make much of a difference in daily use, since the SD821 is already a great performer. Bezels seem even larger than the 1st gen
I got the Mi MIX in pre order so roughly 10 monts ago. Time files and I still feel like I would buy it a month ago.
The new mix did not bring in anything appealing to me... Samaller screen and no amoled... Smaller battery... the only two thing I like about it more than v1 is the metal frame and OIS..
No I will not buy it.
I'm disappointed too:
No P-OLED/AMOLED
No 2k/4k screen
Smaller batterry
Smaller screen size (not critical)
No way guys
Wrong way, china guys.
Seems like the top bezel is slightly larger on the new MIX. Cost of jamming a speaker in there I guess. I'm very content with the sound on the original anyway.
Special edition without 256gb??
Like the small rounded screen corners on the first. MI MIX 2 seems to have the same wide corners as the rest of the 2017 smartphone lineup.
Was never going to upgrade now anyway. Waiting for next 8XX chip + way....waaay to happy with my MIX.
Only compromise I would be ok with on the MIX 2 is the camera hump. OIS is sweet.
I have mix and mix 2 is absolutely terrible because it doesn't look like unique phone anymore. I got tired of charging my phone every evening, so a +4000 Mah battery was a nobrainer for me to get mix, now its ughhh.
Yes, i'm very disappointed...
was hoping that could have been a decent replacement for Note 4 with promised 6.4 oled screen and 4K battery, but....
with IPS, without 3.5 jack, smaller 6.0 screen and without microsd card slot this phone is not even an option. Very sad.
Also the bezels look huge in comparison with the renders distributed by xiaomi to create hype, which has left a very disappointing feeling that you were promised one thing and offered a very different one...
at the end of the day, the phone did not meet all the hype created, and is a flop (imho)
all im gonna say is.... ill definitely stick to my original mi mix.
Because some people (maybe alot) dont accep the 6.44' size. Their cant use, cant handle it. Then Xiaomi release Mix 2 to help their product come to more people and not to kill the Mix 1, smaller screen size make Mix 1 still alive.
But...the point is...Xiaomi next step...equal to turn back into their fan. I cant accept that. I want bigger screen..!! 6.44'..!! 7..!! But not... If the screent cant bigger.? I want better camera. Yes, they update it. But not enough. I dont care about snap 835. I care about 3400Mah battery. And yes...Mix still alive. Because I will stay with my Mix. My next phone is Note 8. I have hand-on it already. "Wow.! Beautiful". That all i can say. Bye bye mix 2. We will talk again when mix 3 release.
(Sorry about my bad English. But i really..!! Really want to talk about my dissapointed)
It seems Xiaomi used the Mix 1 has a test prototype to see if the technology was feasible and if there was a demand for the bezel-less concept. Since then all the big manufacturers jumped on board too and so the Mix 2 appears to be Xiaomi's attempt to compete with a more mainstream design. This is clear from the smaller width and the use of the more traditional speaker earpiece. Unfortunately this means it no longer stands out or looks futuristic. I still love my Mix 1 but I still like to try the new models so am now on the fence whether to get the Mix 2 or the Essential. The all-ceramic limited edition is tempting as I am a sucker for build quality and advanced materials.
#1: the screen size is a matter of personal preference; you can't please everyone.
6" might be the sweet spot for me in such a package.
#2: I like the fact that Xiaomi introduced another colour & diversified the choice of materials.
It's much harder to scratch a frame, however, most Mi MIX fails were devices which fell on a corner & cracked.
This shouldn't be an issue now with the aluminum frame. Ceramic is still there where it matters - the back.
#3: the camera was an epic fail on the original MIX, & an update to the IMX386 is welcome.
#4: epic fail on the form factor: a slim phone might be easier to hold, but as difficult to handle in 1 hand mode - example: reaching the top parts of the phone.
In addition, there is little to no content in 18:9, thus leading to letterboxing & waste of screen realestate.
#5: the drop in battery capacity to 3500mAh is a huge step back.
I went to the Verizon store like many and did a side by side picture of my Nexus 6 next to the pixel 2XL. The phone was great but I have to say I thought the colors on my Nexus 6 looked better. I felt like the colors on my Nexus 6 had more contrast and felt more vibrant. Hmmm. Still not cancelling my pre-order though LOL. I'm mostly excited for the camera upgrade.
I also took a picture of a wall with a lot of colors to compare the 2 phones. Nexus 6 image first, then 2XL. These two pictures were quite comparable in quality I felt. I think where the Pixel 2 shines is the portrait mode and being fast.
When comparing the screens, consider this (from here):
If you're coming from an iPhone, you're not going to have a problem with the display at all. You're going to love it. The people that report that the display is "washed out" come from a display that over-saturates the display, which is pretty much every other OEM out there that uses OLED displays, with Samsung being the main "offender". Google, like Apple, are targeting color accuracy on the Pixel 2. The colors on the Pixel adhere to sRGB and support wide color if an app calls for it. The Pixel 2 is definitely pushing a more serious tone with their decision of targeting sRGB,
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the nexus feel alot wider in picture
how is the hand handling VS the nexus 6
Man so much screen real estate lost with this new aspect ratio.. also those corners...hmm
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The camera won't be even close between the two for most photos. I think the Verizon store example offers lighting and subject that is about as easy as it gets for a camera to capture, and even then the photo from the nexus 6 looks purple. Wait until you take photos outside on a sunny day, or an overcast day, or in low light, or with fine details or skin tones.
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the nexus feel alot wider in picture
how is the hand handling VS the nexus 6
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I feel like it looks very close in size visually, but once you hold the pixel 2xl, even with the verizon security sensor on the back, you can tell its going to be easier to thumb tap with 1 hand. I'll miss the added screen size on the n6, but the camera will more than make up for it for me personally.
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I feel like it looks very close in size visually, but once you hold the pixel 2xl, even with the verizon security sensor on the back, you can tell its going to be easier to thumb tap with 1 hand. I'll miss the added screen size on the n6, but the camera will more than make up for it for me personally.
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Both phones have 6 inch displays. The Aspect ratio has changed from 16:9 to 18:9 now, which should make the screen taller and narrower on the Pixel 2 XL than the Nexus 6 so one handed operation reaching the other side of the screen should be easier, but reaching the top should be slightly harder.....
Can you post any additional photos. I would buy pixel if there is very noticeable difference in quality, I don't mind if HDR is much slower on N6 and yes I don't care about front camera. I have to say N6 with HDR makes very good photos so to buy pixel I need to be sure is worth it.
All Nexus 6
I'm still quite impressed about the Nexus 6 camera, I know we know how the pics are, but when I sent some of those to my friends, they are also impressed, even owning 2017 phones.
I also would like more comparisons with the Pixel 2 if anyone with both can provide!
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I'm still quite impressed about the Nexus 6 camera, I know we know how the pics are, but when I sent some of those to my friends, they are also impressed, even owning 2017 phones.
I also would like more comparisons with the Pixel 2 if anyone with both can provide!
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I agree the Nexus 6 is capable of taking great pictures.
The problem is it's much slower to focus, to take, and process HDR+ pictures compared to the Pixel/Pixel 2. In the day time, wouldn't see much until pixel peep at full res. In night time, the Pixel/Pixel 2 will blow away the Nexus 6. The Pixel/Pixel 2 handle moving objects much better too. The Pixel/Pixel 2 cameras are just reliably great in every situation.
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I agree the Nexus 6 is capable of taking great pictures.
The problem is it's much slower to focus, to take, and process HDR+ pictures compared to the Pixel/Pixel 2. In the day time, wouldn't see much until pixel peep at full res. In night time, the Pixel/Pixel 2 will blow away the Nexus 6. The Pixel/Pixel 2 handle moving objects much better too. The Pixel/Pixel 2 cameras are just reliably great in every situation.
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100% true, just because of slower HDR+ and night poor quality photos is difficult to drop 600£ for new pixel 2. Pixel 2 XL is 700 adding terrible LG quality...google will have to drop price significantly
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100% true, just because of slower HDR+ and night poor quality photos is difficult to drop 600£ for new pixel 2. Pixel 2 XL is 700 adding terrible LG quality...google will have to drop price significantly
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Exactly why I chose to pick up a brand new, original Pixel for 400.
With the Pixel/Pixel 2 the camera experience is such a great experience; even if not into photography you'll find yourself taking more pictures, more often.
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Man so much screen real estate lost with this new aspect ratio.. also those corners...hmm
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I completely agree on the screen size. I HATE this new aspect ratio and can only pray that it's a fad. I need a 7-8" tablet with a good camera, current processor and a cellular radio.
I had pixel 2 xl, absolutely hated it. Screen is bluish at a tiny angle, rounded corners, dim screen, expensive as he'll, crappy aspect ratio, and when you tap with your finger in the middle section of the screen - phone makes hollow sound. Wait till pixels are $200, perhaps only then pixel hardware disaster will be worth it. Got Nexus 6, looking forward to it. Optical image stabilization with decent software is what makes such terrific pictures possible.. First gen pixels do not have OIS...
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I had pixel 2 xl, absolutely hated it. Screen is bluish at a tiny angle, rounded corners, dim screen, expensive as he'll, crappy aspect ratio, and when you tap with your finger in the middle section of the screen - phone makes hollow sound. Wait till pixels are $200, perhaps only then pixel hardware disaster will be worth it. Got Nexus 6, looking forward to it. Optical image stabilization with decent software is what makes such terrific pictures possible.. First gen pixels do not have OIS...
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The original Pixel doesn't need OIS. It has a big sensor and pixels. Better HDR+ algorithm too.
Nexus 6- 5.867 mm, 1.12 μm
OG Pixel- 7.81 mm, 1.55 μm
It's able to pull in more light without having to go to super low shutter speeds. OIS can't help the Nexus 6 in this battle. The sensor isn't nearly as good. Yea it's possible to take decent shots in low light with the Nexus 6 but it'll require manual mode- meaning more effort.
If pixels do not need OIS, why was it added on second gen of pixels? OnePlus 5t also has large sensor, but its pictures are crap anytime the hand shakes tiny bit.
I recently upgraded my trusty Nexus 6 to a Pixel 2 xl and can honestly say, it was the right choice. It's easier to hold in one hand and so far, not having any of the issues I've read about. The bluish tint is not as bad as I thought it would be but is still there. It's the first google phone that I've bought right after it came out. Great phone!
https://9to5google.com/2018/05/28/google-pixel-3-front-panel-notch-leak/
Love the fact that they are sticking with the front facing speakers and the notch with thin bezels.
Well for me that's an ugly design... What a mistake with this bloody notch, i prefer a normal bezels and nae notches
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Well for me that's an ugly design... What a mistake with this bloody notch, i prefer a normal bezels and nae notches
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All is pure speculation, maybe this is not: Google-pixel-3-display-notch-rumors/ or with this . . .
Since P supports notch, that doesn't mean that Pixel 3 will have it. You must take into account that Google will sooner or later request from manufacturers to release monthly security updates, which is good thing btw.
I think we just have to wait and see.
Hopefully, thin or no bezels, no notch, 6gb ram, 845 soc, lalalala...
I'm still with the Pixel XL....if the 3 XL has a notch I'll buy a 2 XL and hope that the 4 XL doesn't have a notch. F notches.
If the Pixel 3 XL has a notch I'm considering switching to Apple because that means even Google is just copying the iPhone
Wasn't the essential phone the first with the notch? Or are my timelines messed up.
Lol.. you can disable the notch on the amoler screens without losing battery, and Apple copied the notch from the Essential phone. I don't mind the notch frankly.
Guess I'll be sticking with the pixel 2 xl for awhile.
The only thing I think I would miss with a notch is the center clock. Other than that I can't see the big deal.
As far as I'm concerned, it's a lazy and uninspired design... I'm not a fan of the notch, but if you're going to use it for some reason, at least don't give your phone a "chin" too.
I'm convinced that notch nonsense is a fad... and I'll wait for a notchless Pixel 4 XL
I too don't see the point of a notch when you'll have that huge chin... Also, this notch seem really deep...
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F the notch
Back to the Samsung Note for me, and bonus Ill be able to get that phone in August. Its a dam shame too, I honestly thought Google had more integrity and innovation up their sleeve than to copy Apple with a trash notch. My money goes to where the innovation is taking place and this notch trend is hot garbage.
I say just keep the pixel 2 XL and wait for the pixel 4. The pixel 2 is not even a year old and we still get two major os updates after Android p. And by that time the technology for full screen displays will be there it's too early in the game for top manufacturers to take the risk and having a device flop due to issues. There are too many complications with senors and cameras to go full on immersive mode. yes the notch is pointless and basically a trend now, but we have to realize every company is going to try to implement it better and try and give us that full screen experience. It's all business at the end of the day, and I'm ok with that but the pixel 2 XL will definitely hold its own until the tech and resources are there to get rid of all bezels. We also have to take these leaks with a grain of salt because we are only heading into June, so we do have at least another 4 months to go designs can always change. Google is smart with there choices and do produce the best phones thus far with minor flaws as far as the screen quality fiasco went. But they are hands down the smoothest experience you will find with Android devices, not so much with design wise. But that's not what's important the longevity and performance that counts.
Love the notch! If the rumors are true then Pixel 3 XL ftw!
Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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This. The notch adds a little bit of screen where there would otherwise be no screen. I'm glad I don't have strong feelings about it. If you've ruled out the phone because it has a notch you are probably being a little (or a lot) too weird about it. The big Pixel 3 will likely be a very nice device. Go with the notch (if it's there). It gives the phone a little something different from the usual rectangular body and rectangular screen - the same old look. I prob didn't change your mind but the P3 will be so awesome. You have 5 months to learn to like the notch.
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I say just keep the pixel 2 XL and wait for the pixel 4. The pixel 2 is not even a year old and we still get two major os updates after Android p. And by that time the technology for full screen displays will be there it's too early in the game for top manufacturers to take the risk and having a device flop due to issues. There are too many complications with senors and cameras to go full on immersive mode. yes the notch is pointless and basically a trend now, but we have to realize every company is going to try to implement it better and try and give us that full screen experience. It's all business at the end of the day, and I'm ok with that but the pixel 2 XL will definitely hold its own until the tech and resources are there to get rid of all bezels. We also have to take these leaks with a grain of salt because we are only heading into June, so we do have at least another 4 months to go designs can always change. Google is smart with there choices and do produce the best phones thus far with minor flaws as far as the screen quality fiasco went. But they are hands down the smoothest experience you will find with Android devices, not so much with design wise. But that's not what's important the longevity and performance that counts.
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You are right about the Pixel phones, they are the best of the android devices. I returned a couple P2XLs d/t display problems then when I got a good one I sold it and bought an S9+. I miss the Pixel, will be all over the next model. I am struggling waiting for the P3, can't comprehend a P4
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Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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This is exactly my view as well. Apple just happened to be one of the companies to introduce the notch but it was not that it was a great/innovative invention as such - it was a compromise. They had to keep some part for the sensors and stuff. So calling other companies adopting a notch as copycats is like telling that all companies earlier had a rectangle screen so everyone was copying that as well - which is stupid. The people who complain would also have complained that Apple is giving higher screen to body ratio compared to Google in case Google didn't adopt the notch.
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Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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Ok, what can be the added screen real estate used for? It cant even show all status bar/notification icons. You cant watch video or look at pictures because it hinders the view. Better solution would be a combination of no bezzels and some kind of smart immersive mode.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 4a 5G, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 4a 5G is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I've been using it for a few hours, it feels faster than my OnePlus 6, battery seems great (40mn SOT, and only 5% went away), the screen calibration is spot on, for now I'm very happy with it.
The camera is, of course, absolutely great.
I finally decided to get a Pixel as I thought with 4a 5g they finally got the specs vs price ratio right. I must say I am not disappointed.
- slightly narrower and shorter than pixel 3a xl, feels denser, better for my smallish hands
- case texture is nice, less slippery
- fingerprint sensor feels more responsive, more accurate
- transitions are smooth
I just got it set up an hour ago so can't speak on screen, battery, etc but I like it so far.
Coming from Pixel 3. So all below compare to P3
- bezel is thiiiiin, awesome!
- screen is way bigger, while phone size is just a tiny bigger.
- battery is crazy good. 6 hour SOT with 37% left now. (Fast charger killed P3's battery probably)
- camera processing speed about the same.
- wide lens is awesome
- plastic feels great and less scary without a case. It's on the way.
- usb port is tighter. The P3 now will drop some cables.
- DSDS works wonder. I have Fi and Verizon
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- slightly narrower and shorter than pixel 3a xl, feels denser, better for my smallish hands
- case texture is nice, less slippery
- fingerprint sensor feels more responsive, more accurate
- transitions are smooth
I just got it set up an hour ago so can't speak on screen, battery, etc but I like it so far.
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Looking forward to your updates! I am moving from the Pixel 3a XL.
Explore3 said:
Looking forward to your updates! I am moving from the Pixel 3a XL.
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Great so far:
- faster, boots super quick
- still have 50% battery at the end of day
- loving the smaller size
- google gestures are 50% crap but got used to gestures with Dirty Unicorns so waiting on ROMs to get those back
- Magisk working well but haven't gotten ViperFX working unfortunately
- 5g is in my area but haven't given it a run since I'm always on wifi
Compared to Pixel 3XL
Has a great feel in the hand, it feels "premium" even though it's plastic.
Display is awesome, looks really good.
Have to say the buttons feel "cheap", for lack of a better word. I'm sure it'll be fine, it is a Google phone.
The buttons on the 3XL are just a different grade of quality, you'd have to have both to know the difference.
The punch hole kinda gets on my nerves.
I got the device free through the T-Mobile promotion, so really can't gripe too much about it. My wife is probably gonna steal it from me because it has a headphone jack, she's missing that on her One Plus 7 Pro. The trade off is I get to tinker with the 7 Pro
I got no complaints so far, other than the buttons, lol. Just got it today, battery still at 100% after 3 hours, but I haven't used it much. I'm sure it'll be on par with the Pixel 5, since practically the same specs. Should get the Spigen case and screen protectors first of next week. After that, it'll get some real use.
Google is offering $300 trade-in for your Pixel 3 now!
So, third time the charm, it took a long detour - after Pix4a and Pix5 I landed w/ Pixel 4a 5G, imo the best of them for many reasons. P4a felt kinda flimsy with the creaky housing and I think the digitizer had some 'touch' issues, though the camera was fine. My Pixel 5 had no gaps whatsoever, but the camera didn't produce sharp pics, maybe because of the newest software version. Didn't know about that until now so I shot some pics w/4a5g today having the camera updated to ver. 8.x.x and then I reverted that update to 7.x.x. and took some more shots. Whatever I say about any differences, it'll be a subjective opinion, I see it – other ppl may not. Uploaded couple of pics to '4a5g Photo...” thread if you're interested to see them.
I think now am gonna settle down for a while with Pix4a5G, it's a keeper, I need to have around an extra phone and this one should serve me well for many years ahead. It's my second day with it and I can't really find anything bad or wrong about this phone. Perfect size actually, 6.2” makes it only a few millimeters shorter than my Note 10+, but the width is bigger, at least feels that way because N10+ has rounded edges. Phone is very responsive, everything works smoothly, got rid of all the apps I don't need so I'm not being annoyed with Google's intrusive attempts to “helping” me operating my phone.
Great battery life, no overheating – 'cool cucumber', downloaded in one shot yesterday some 20GB of my music from Amazon, I remember other phones I've had, getting really hot at this point but not this one, couldn't believe, it stayed just lukewarm – no problem'o'.
Coming from Samsung Galaxy S7 on Verizon. Now on T-Mobile with my Pixel.
So far, about 2 weeks, the Pixel has been a great improvement. Faster, with a sharper and brighter display.
The gestures take getting used to, but I'm finding that it works better than I thought it would.
Minor things, none of them are deal breakers, that I would change of I could: 1) put volume buttons and power button on opposite sides of the device; 2) put headphone jack on bottom with the usb port; & 3) I'd make the phone a little smaller.
Still waiting to get my device unlocked so I can modify it more to my liking.