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With the recent $100 off unlocked moto x promo, I was ready to ditch my HTC One. I've been using One since near first day of release and tried all kinds of ROMs including GoogleExperience edition. I ended up settling on HTCs developer edition ROM with OTA updates. I recently got a warranty replacement and this was a cherry picked replacement device from 12 devices in front of me. 10 had flaws such as gaps and creeks for both black and silver ones. Anyways my One is in near perfect condition so I was going to sell it and get the Moto X.
I ordered my 32GB unlocked for $350 so it was a good deal. First thing I noticed was how blurry the text was on the edges. This matters a lot for web surfing and being able to see a lot more without zooming in is really nice. I hold my phone about 16 inches away from my eyes.
When I opened google maps it became relevant that this is a lower resolution screen, but this may be a software problem, I don't know. I'm missing all the details. Compared to my One, it's like going back 5 years to Nexus S times.
Whoever says anything over 300dpi is undetectable is lieing or haven't tried comparing them or simply don't need that high resolution screen. I suspect those people who dont nees high res scrren will use 768p screen on a 15" laptop too.
720p on phone screen would be okay if you only play games and watch movies on it.
Then I tried the camera and pictures in my room this morning after a series of moto x software updates, and had so much graininess it's like it came from a toy cam. This a major let down to me because I use the camera a lot and I don't facebook/instagram.
Moto assist is pretty awesome and so is Active Display and always ready voice commands. Phone itself is pretty snappy even though it has a mid range cpu. Build quality is not top notch though better than HTC One.
I'm returning mine and will stick with HTC One until a higher res Moto X or similar comes out.
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I think you're insane. With the phone a foot and a half away from my face text is far from blurry and I have just about the keenest vision around.
Coming from a GS4 I couldn't tell that much of a difference in screen resolution. Is there a difference? Sure, but not enough for me to care about. I really don't understand the hate on the camera. Low light isn't the best but it wasn't that great on the gs4 either. And the GS4 is regarded as having one of the best cameras for a smartphone. The feel, smoothness and features on the moto x trumps all the jank HTC or Samsung offer imo.
I actually went from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X and I have no regrets. I don't notice the screen difference that much other than the comparisons between IPS and AMOLED display. As for the screen size, I prefer the Moto X because I can hold the phone easily in one hand compared to the Nexus 5 which felt like a flatbread. The Moto X has by far the best ergonomics for a phone to date. The camera for me versus the Nexus 5 is more of a "whatever." Both cameras have their hit and misses but that's coming from someone who uses full frame cameras. I'm not really pixel peeping the quality of the images from the Moto X nor did I with the Nexus 5.
You must remember that the Moto X wasn't made to be a phone for people who cares about specs. It was made for the common, average, user in mind. The Moto X impresses from it's features rather than it's spec sheet. Similar to Apple's iPhone.
Just my 2 cents.
The HTC One's camera is obviously going to be better, especially in low light/indoor situations, because of the ultra pixel technology.
Screen Resolution is always going to be debatable. Some people notice it, some people don't. I'd say the bigger cause of difference between the screens is that one is AMOLED (X) and one is LCD (One). In general, LCD screens are crisper but color reproduction isn't always as good, whereas AMOLED screens have much better color saturation but might appear less crisp in comparison.
Well have fun on the HTC One forums and let us enjoy our crappy screen. Ive put the same image and webpage next to each other on a galaxy s4 and moto x. Studies show Motorola pulled of a 30% more power efficient screen. At 6 oclock at night when Im still using my phone my girlfriends is dead in her purse
I disagree. I came from an s4 and other the moto x screen. Being non pentile makes a big difference to my eyes. The x looks sharper to me
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I disagree. I came from an s4 and other the moto x screen. Being non pentile makes a big difference to my eyes. The x looks sharper to me
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Yeah, pentile AMOLED is far worse than non-pentile AMOLED.
I compared both the Samsung Galaxy S4 and the Moto X's screens and by far, the Moto X was much sharper.
If we can learn anything from this thread, I think it's clear that some people see the difference in the screen and some don't. It's silly to say "no, no difference, everyone that thinks there is is crazy" or "yes, of course there is a perceptible difference and if you can't see it, you're fools."
For me personally, I see the difference in text very readily. I moved from an S4 to the Moto X, and could immediately see the degradation in text quality. Now, do I care? No, because, while I can see the difference between the two, both resolutions are good enough for me.
As for the camera, I've been taking nothing but amazing shots, and I'm very happy. That said, I leave HDR on at all times.
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With the recent $100 off unlocked moto x promo, I was ready to ditch my HTC One. I've been using One since near first day of release and tried all kinds of ROMs including GoogleExperience edition. I ended up settling on HTCs developer edition ROM with OTA updates. I recently got a warranty replacement and this was a cherry picked replacement device from 12 devices in front of me. 10 had flaws such as gaps and creeks for both black and silver ones. Anyways my One is in near perfect condition so I was going to sell it and get the Moto X.
I ordered my 32GB unlocked for $350 so it was a good deal. First thing I noticed was how blurry the text was on the edges. This matters a lot for web surfing and being able to see a lot more without zooming in is really nice. I hold my phone about 16 inches away from my eyes.
When I opened google maps it became relevant that this is a lower resolution screen, but this may be a software problem, I don't know. I'm missing all the details. Compared to my One, it's like going back 5 years to Nexus S times.
Whoever says anything over 300dpi is undetectable is lieing or haven't tried comparing them or simply don't need that high resolution screen. I suspect those people who dont nees high res scrren will use 768p screen on a 15" laptop too.
720p on phone screen would be okay if you only play games and watch movies on it.
Then I tried the camera and pictures in my room this morning after a series of moto x software updates, and had so much graininess it's like it came from a toy cam. This a major let down to me because I use the camera a lot and I don't facebook/instagram.
Moto assist is pretty awesome and so is Active Display and always ready voice commands. Phone itself is pretty snappy even though it has a mid range cpu. Build quality is not top notch though better than HTC One.
I'm returning mine and will stick with HTC One until a higher res Moto X or similar comes out.
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What a troll....
For me the Moto X has been a welcome change from my S3. At the price it's truly realistic to go off-contract and save some money and still have a GREAT phone. Consistently 5 hours of screen on time and pretty much only recharging every other day compared with around 2 hours and less than a day on the S3. Really like the size and ergonomics; I think Motorola really hit the sweet spot here. Can still handle and use it with one hand and not feel visually cramped like that fruity phone. The near stock environment is also welcome. I can tell a slight difference in ~300dpi vs ~400dpi, but not huge and wouldn't trade that off for less battery life. When the fonts get that small, I'm switching to landscape orientation anyways. Camera wise it OK, but I don't look for much out of any mobile phone. It's for quick shots when I don't have something better with me (e.g. Sony RX100 with a sensor >7x larger). That said, I respect HTC for their camera approach trading off resolution for larger sensor photosites which end up being in the same range as something like the RX100. Build quality wise, the 3 Moto X's in our house were all perfect. Personally, I don't equate plastic with cheap. I equate quality plastic with a phone designed to take some drops and not dent or crack. A Rolex like feel (i.e. the fruity phone) makes for wonderful marketing, and sort of makes more sense if you're strapping it to your wrist (like a watch) and view it as something for the long haul that you're not replacing when your next 2 year subsidy comes up. Also appreciate that the Moto X has some level of repairability compared with the HTC One. Not as simple to replace a battery as the Samsung's, but still doable (ifixit teardowns).
At 16 inches away text would need to be really small for me to notice blurryness. to the point where i wouldn't be able to read it anyway.
I can see the differences in displays, but it's more than just resolutions (as already mentioned) pentiles have huge drawbacks.... but even in non pentile i think even the shape of the subpixels matter as well.
I think there's diminishing returns for anything much higher than 720p on a phone though (at least for non phablet phones)
It takes so much more power to light the pixes and GPU power to keep them running smoothly.
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The camera sucks.
There, I said it.
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Well, the cameras are a bit different. The HTC One takes better pictures when it decides to get them in focus. I don't know why, but with my HTC One, it felt like I needed a freaking tripod to not have a blurry shot.
With my X, I get a sharp shot mostly every single time.
When you've got to take a quick picture, I don't give a crap if every 5th one comes out looking great and sharp, I just need one picture that comes out clear and workable.
I did love my One though, but without the touchless and active notifications, it was a goner.
Yes the camera needs to be better when compared to other high-end phones.
and yes the screen would look less crisp next to a 1080p screen.
But how can you argue when its almost half the price of other phones?
Motorola obviously made a conscious decision to make the device way more affordable.
You can't complain about that
I honestly cannot tell the difference between my 720p Moto X and my 1080p Droid DNA. The only difference I can tell between the two are the more saturated colors on the Moto X. Other than that, they're both crystal clear and I cannot make out any pixels.
As for the camera, it has been serviceable for me. Haven't had any issues at all.
Curious what people favor if they had the choice:
5X = convenient size with mid-range specs, plastic build, against a competitive price
6X = phablet with mid-range specs, plastic build, against a competitive price
5P = convenient size with premium specs and build, against a slightly higher price point
6P = phablet with premium specs and build, against a slightly higher price point
6p....
I really don't know since I haven't tried a "phablet" yet. But I buy nothing but Nexus. After just crying about an N5 refresh for a year, the 6p/5x launch made it difficult to not try a phablet. I probably can't answer this question until I try the 6p for a month or two. I completely skipped the 6 due to starting price and ridiculous size.
If they would have just launched your proposed array of devices instead of what they did, I probably would have went with the 5p as my knee jerk reaction.
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Right now I would say 6p, but I voted for 5p because I know I would have wanted the slightly smaller size. But I think once you use the phablet size, it's hard to go back to smaller screen. It just feels inadequate.
To me, with the much slimmer profile (width), the 6P doesn't come across as a "phablet". My wife has a Lumia 1320 and I liked everything about it except it's width (and the extreme lack of apps, of course). I've had to make little adjustment from my trusty N5 that I had for nearly 2 years. My only complaint about the phone is how incredibly slippery it is (I have the aluminum model). I bought it because of it's looks, but it's nearly unusable without a case, IMHO. If I hold on to it tightly to "feel" like I'm not going to let it slip out of my hands, I keep hitting a button that wakes it up or shuts it off (btw, I have normal sized hands for a 6'1" tall person so it isn't a small hands thing). I have a case on order so that issue will hopefully be resolved soon. Very pleased over all so far.
Yeah, I think it was a huge mistake not to simply make two premium phones, with different screen sizes. A 5P I think would easily outsell the 6P, just as most iPhone users prefer the iPhone 6 over the 6+. Even many reviews of the 5X say the price difference for the base 6P makes it hardly worth getting the 5X, unless you just can't swing it (and when you think about the thousands people spend on phone plans, it makes the price difference even more minimal). I really wish there were a 5P, with the Huawei design, but a 5.2" screen.
Perhaps, in part, Google didn't want to completely put themselves in the hands of Huawei.
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Yeah, I think it was a huge mistake not to simply make two premium phones, with different screen sizes. A 5P I think would easily outsell the 6P, just as most iPhone users prefer the iPhone 6 over the 6+. Even many reviews of the 5X say the price difference for the base 6P makes it hardly worth getting the 5X, unless you just can't swing it (and when you think about the thousands people spend on phone plans, it makes the price difference even more minimal). I really wish there were a 5P, with the Huawei design, but a 5.2" screen.
Perhaps, in part, Google didn't want to completely put themselves in the hands of Huawei.
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Yep, lots of people want a top of the line phone that aint phablet sized. Personally I've tried a number of phablets and never warmed up to them and I don't honestly expect to be happy with this phones size either. It is however a Nexus device and I've owned all but one of them. If there had been a 5P I order it and never look back. As it is I'm sure I'll move on as soon as an 820 5ish inch flagship device hits. No insult intended to the gents that love their phablets, you're welcome to em, just let me have a flagship in a smaller form factor and we're all good.
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Yep, lots of people want a top of the line phone that aint phablet sized. Personally I've tried a number of phablets and never warmed up to them and I don't honestly expect to be happy with this phones size either. It is however a Nexus device and I've owned all but one of them. If there had been a 5P I order it and never look back. As it is I'm sure I'll move on as soon as an 820 5ish inch flagship device hits. No insult intended to the gents that love their phablets, you're welcome to em, just let me have a flagship in a smaller form factor and we're all good.
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Yeah, I've always had Nexus phones, so I guess I'll try the 6P as my first venture into the phablet world. But I'm not that excited about it.
What's really perplexing is why they didn't stick with Motorola. I thought the Moto X/Nexus 6 design was a great design, except for the size. And of course the Moto X 2014 was a 5" phone. It was totally disappointing when the Nexus 6 came out and it was a supersized version of an otherwise great design. Why not just have Motorola do a 5.2 in version of the current Moto X design. That would be great (and it would even have the four microphone noise cancellation, that has been the best in a Nexus phone since the Nexus One with the Audience chip--I'm already hearing suspect things about the 6P which presumable using Qualcomm's medicore Fluence noise cancellation). Anyway, I think Motorola has a good design. They're also good at nice lower cost phones (which I wouldn't say about LG). A 5.2" Nexus X from Motorola would be nice than the 5X, I think. And it's weird that Motorola is the only Nexus manufacturer that didn't get to do two devices. LG does not seem so great to me that they needed to get a third shot. (Well, I guess HTC also never got another shot after the Nexus One, even though the One for it's day arguably had the most premium design until the 6P--and lest people forget that was the first unibody aluminum Nexus phone, perhaps even the first unibody aluminum phone period.)
Oh well, maybe next time. Who knows. Google is so changeable and inconsistent with what they do with the Nexus line.
I remember when I would pull out my N1 and people would comment on how huge it was. lol I suppose it doesn't matter in the context of this conversation but I just have to say it... I loved the trackball. I liked pulling the notifications out into 3D space and I liked being able to select tiny links on a web page without having to zoom.
6P
5P would be sweet
OP...you already have the same thread here. Why make another one?
I will have to close this. Please don't repeat threads in multiple sections.
Regards
Has anyone bought the 6P and then asked themselves "why on earth did I spend the money, the other one was equally as good as this one".
I'm torn because from a standpoint of specs I just don't see a bunch of difference and the 6 is a great phone. SO that's the question, if anyone regrets it other than the fact it's a new phone, i would love to hear your take. :silly:
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6 vs 6P, maybe there's an argument there. I came from the N5.. No contest.
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Came from the ZenFone 2....no regrets either.
Came from the S5 and this phone seems like an answered prayer.
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I came from a Note 5 and I have no regrets. Much more clean and smooth.
USMC retired said:
Has anyone bought the 6P and then asked themselves "why on earth did I spend the money, the other one was equally as good as this one".
I'm torn because from a standpoint of specs I just don't see a bunch of difference and the 6 is a great phone. SO that's the question, if anyone regrets it other than the fact it's a new phone, i would love to hear your take. :silly:
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Yes I have had this internal discussion. I had the OG LG G2 and it is perfect in every way for me at least. I do really like the larger screen but I will miss the G2.
The thing with specs are they are just that....specs... the lg g2 still feels fast and has no real lag and its old as F*******
Coming from the Nexus 6, I can say there was enough there to make me want the 6P. Sensor hub+ doze, battery, processor, finger print scanner, better display, not so wide frame, camera, it doesn't rock around on the table when you try to use it, 128GB, etc... I can say it is a solid upgrade in just about every way.
It's still brand spanking new, and I still haven't gotten over that kid in a candy store feel of getting a new device. Right now I would say I am extremely pleased and not regretting the purchase at all. Time will tell if I develop any complaints.
Edit: I would say the slightly smaller screen was the only thing I immediately noticed was different while using it, but it was not really a downgrade. 5.7 vs 5.9 inches isn't a huge change in real estate, but it still is a change. On the bright side, at least the 6P fits in my car's cupholder!
My only concern is the size. Coming from m8; this phone is way took big but I really like the specs of it. Trying to get used to the size.
Not one bit. I love this phone. Plus, mine seems to be bug or defect free. Yay!
Former Z3 owner.
I dont use my N6 for anything anymore..
This phone is sooooo much batter
Fingerprint scanner
Not as wide
Awesome dual front speakers
Better camera
Way better gaming performance
Better screen
0 regrets. Love doze, the screen, the speakers, the freedom to do whatever I like with the software. I am a bit hesitant about the camera but hopefully they push some software improvements later.
Slightly disappointred with my display. Whites are dirty / yellowish when looking straight at it. Look much better when viewing from an angle. Suffering a bit of color changing when i move the handset about.
Last phones was a Nexus 5, and a couple of months with a cheapy UMI Iron. Both of which had better whites. Hoping this is fixable.
Too big , mine is going back. My LG g3 had nearly the same size display in a much smaller package.
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Slightly disappointred with my display. Whites are dirty / yellowish when looking straight at it. Look much better when viewing from an angle. Suffering a bit of color changing when i move the handset about.
Last phones was a Nexus 5, and a couple of months with a cheapy UMI Iron. Both of which had better whites. Hoping this is fixable.
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I know that you shouldn't have to for the price point of this phone, but there is already a kernel to adjust the screen temps and there will undoubtedly be more. LCD screens always have cooler, crisper light colors that comparatively seem almost dingey on AMOLEDs. But hey, you have a Nexus, so you can adjust everything you need to on a software level
None.
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Nope 'no ragrets' (if anyone gets that reference) i came from a 64gb Nexus 6 which cost me $700+ tax so for $650+ tax the 128gb 6P was a steal. I love this phone and the camera is a beast. I haven't looked back and even sold my old Nexus 6 because i like this phone so much.
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I know that you shouldn't have to for the price point of this phone, but there is already a kernel to adjust the screen temps and there will undoubtedly be more. LCD screens always have cooler, crisper light colors that comparatively seem almost dingey on AMOLEDs. But hey, you have a Nexus, so you can adjust everything you need to on a software level
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Eww LCD display are a thing of the past i prefer AMOLED screens because you get a true black and they just look better. If i could have an OLED or AMOLED TV and not pay $$$$$$$$ i gladly would buy one. I have a really nice LG monitor but the backlight annoys me and I wish it was an AMOLED especially after paying $1k for it. Everyone has their preference and mine is and always will be an OLED or AMOLED
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Nope 'no ragrets' (if anyone gets that reference) i came from a 64gb Nexus 6 which cost me $700+ tax so for $650+ tax the 128gb 6P was a steal. I love this phone and the camera is a beast. I haven't looked back and even sold my old Nexus 6 because i like this phone so much.
Eww LCD display are a thing of the past i prefer AMOLED screens because you get a true black and they just look better. If i could have an OLED or AMOLED TV and not pay $$$$$$$$ i gladly would buy one. I have a really nice LG monitor but the backlight annoys me and I wish it was an AMOLED especially after paying $1k for it. Everyone has their preference and mine is and always will be an OLED or AMOLED
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I'm actually an AMOLED fan myself :highfive: it took me a while to get used to the difference in whites coming from an HTC M8 to the droid turbo (my 6p won't be in hand until tomorrow). But I had an S4 prior to the M8 and I truly appreciate the saturated darks on AMOLEDs. After a week or so, I never even notice the slight hues associated with AMOLED screens but I think some are just more sensitive toniticing the the contrast than others. Hopefully in the next 5 years an AMOLED TV will become a more affordable option
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I'm actually an AMOLED fan myself :highfive: it took me a while to get used to the difference in whites coming from an HTC M8 to the droid turbo (my 6p won't be in hand until tomorrow). But I had an S4 prior to the M8 and I truly appreciate the saturated darks on AMOLEDs. After a week or so, I never even notice the slight hues associated with AMOLED screens but I think some are just more sensitive toniticing the the contrast than others. Hopefully in the next 5 years an AMOLED TV will become a more affordable option
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That's how I feel. My first Android phone was the S3 which had an AMOLED screen them I had a Note 3. I moved in to a LCD on my G3 and while i liked the phone the screen at times was horrible in comparison. I've had some other LCD phones and tablets but anything with an AMOLED will win my money in the end. It's sad to see Motorola stray from them because now we are left with Samsung phones, and Nexii for now (for the most part). I'm sure with the recent rumors of apple considering an AMOLED will spark further demand for them which is a good thing. I really enjoy how nice AMOLED/OLED screens look. Let's not forget the battery life that usually follows which is generally better.
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That's how I feel. My first Android phone was the S3 which had an AMOLED screen them I had a Note 3. I moved in to a LCD on my G3 and while i liked the phone the screen at times was horrible in comparison. I've had some other LCD phones and tablets but anything with an AMOLED will win my money in the end. It's sad to see Motorola stray from them because now we are left with Samsung phones, and Nexii for now (for the most part). I'm sure with the recent rumors of apple considering an AMOLED will spark further demand for them which is a good thing. I really enjoy how nice AMOLED/OLED screens look. Let's not forget the battery life that usually follows which is generally better.
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I couldn't agree more with you man. That was a really odd move on Moto's part IMO because of their way of delivering notifications...really stupid to move away from the low battery draw of AMOLEDs regarding active notifications. Though, I think Moto is a sinking ship in general these days, but that a-whole-nother discussion. I hope Apple does push for AMOLED so that it becomes more coveted feature, but it takes them a while to get on board with big changes.
Love the phone coming from a Verizon note 3. Two comments. One, the battery life isn't that great compared to the note. Samsung actually did a great job there imo. But I can still get two days out of the phone with light to moderate usage so all good. Two, for whatever reason apps take a long time to install after the download is finished. Everything else is fast on the phone.
Good grief. It's got Pixel sized bezels!
The good old Galaxy Note 3 was so far ahead of its time when it came to minimal bezels.
Galaxy finally has small bezels again but no root for US phones. Or LOS/AOSP ROM's.
OnePlus 5 had a chance to swoop in but dammit if the bezels and phone with its 5.5" screen are still bigger than the old Note 3 with it's 5.7" screen.
I really don't like this bezelless trend. I've played with the G6, S8 and owned the note 2-5.
Screens are delicate enough, and good tempered glass has only become harder to find since this curved screen craze has shown up. We don't need any help with making our phones any more delicate, thanks.
Not trying to flame you in anyway, I just honestly think we do not need bezelless displays.
Bezel-less is a gimmick. Looks good from a design aspect but the functionality isn't 100% there since black bars when watching Videos/VR Apps/OS have to be made to work
Also 1+ tries to keep the cost of their devices to a minimum and in a video they did mention they'd use a bezelless display but currently wasn't in a position to do it
In future we will all have them folding phones, but till then phones should retain a minimum amount of bezel, because its more functional that way, phones like S8 are a disaster. Those who actually use it know it. At the same time the size of bezel on the Pixel is an abomination.
I don't know why OP created the OnePlus topic though, liked their first attempt, second one was cooler, third one was the best from them and now this one is simply pathetic. Not that I buy these sort of phones (brand I mean here) but still, not everyone is gonna, or should land a U11 or a Pixel anyway.
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In future we will all have them folding phones, but till then phones should retain a minimum amount of bezel, because its more functional that way, phones like S8 are a disaster. Those who actually use it know it. At the same time the size of bezel on the Pixel is an abomination.
I don't know why OP created the OnePlus topic though, liked their first attempt, second one was cooler, third one was the best from them and now this one is simply pathetic. Not that I buy these sort of phones (brand I mean here) but still, not everyone is gonna, or should land a U11 or a Pixel anyway.
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I use the S8+ and it is far from a disaster for my usage. That's just my opinion though.
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I really don't like this bezelless trend. I've played with the G6, S8 and owned the note 2-5.
Screens are delicate enough, and good tempered glass has only become harder to find since this curved screen craze has shown up. We don't need any help with making our phones any more delicate, thanks.
Not trying to flame you in anyway, I just honestly think we do not need bezelless displays.
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I completely agree.
I have larger hands than most and need some surface area other than the screen to hold on to.
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I completely agree.
I have larger hands than most and need some surface area other than the screen to hold on to.
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Same, I'm 2 meters tall with hands just as freakishly large, while I am no advocate for Xperia size bezels *Twitches* or pixel xl sized bezels *Shudders* I would much rather see some front firing speakers than this bezeless craze continue.
I just generally upset with where phones are going right now... I felt like last year we got so many awesome upgrades,
The Moto Z play keeping it conssitent with amazing battery life and a success at modularity.
The Honor 8 bringing dual cams in. (Even though this was not the first android phone to do this, I think the honr 8 was the first one that picked up a lot of steam.)
The S7 (I can't believe I said this, I dislike samsung, but I have to get them their credit) but water resistance, wireless charging, good camera, micro sd all in one package!
The Axon 7 filling in the gap for htc with their identity crisis, bringing the best front firing speakers with the same processor and screen resolution as flagships of that year..
The Pixel (Price way too high, I know..) but it's Google's Foray to inject their product to more people.
LG, with... Hah, wait, no they still ate it in 2016.
Then processors for 2016, I felt there was such a huge jump from the 810 to the 820. With performance and heat.. To me it seemed like manufacturers were trying to improve the usability of their phones, with this year, we are killing headphone jacks and trying to get bezelless phones that are wafer thin. I would much rather have a phone with a larger battery or more room for heat dispersion than a phone that would break if I accidentally sat on it wrong.
I'm not trying to discredit anyone's desires here, I just feel like focusing on bezels is so... Secondary.. It's aesthetics, I thought we should just leave that for Samsung and Apple to chase, (And LG to pretend they can catch up)
Smaller bezels = smaller phone. I want the smallest phone possible with a LARGE screen.
That Note 3 was just damned perfect.
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Smaller bezels = smaller phone. I want the smallest phone possible with a LARGE screen.
That Note 3 was just damned perfect.
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I agree. Not sure Samsung's goal was specifically for a bezeless phone, but more likely to put the biggest screen possible on the smallest chassis they could build. In that respect, I love the trend. I'm not fond of cutting the screen a la the essential phone to decrease phone size
I'd be happy with a phone the same size as the Pixel with the same bezels. Better battery, SD card slot, waterproof, good camera, and unlockable bootloader.
aholeinthewor1d said:
I'd be happy with a phone the same size as the Pixel with the same bezels. Better battery, SD card slot, waterproof, good camera, and unlockable bootloader.
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I know it's probably a lost cause but i am hoping they keep the AUX jack as well.
Besides curved edges and delicate display concerns the thing that bothers me about the bezeless design trend is that the more they reduce the bottom bezel the further down on-screen keyboard becomes. This results in more stress to my hand when swipe typing which is my primary input method on my phone. On the S8 it's not too bad since the phone is narrow and I can reach the lower corners of the keyboard fine when holding one handed but on the S8+ stretch becomes more pronounced and I suspect long stints of texting will be an issue for me.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 4a 5G, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 4a 5G is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I've been using it for a few hours, it feels faster than my OnePlus 6, battery seems great (40mn SOT, and only 5% went away), the screen calibration is spot on, for now I'm very happy with it.
The camera is, of course, absolutely great.
I finally decided to get a Pixel as I thought with 4a 5g they finally got the specs vs price ratio right. I must say I am not disappointed.
- slightly narrower and shorter than pixel 3a xl, feels denser, better for my smallish hands
- case texture is nice, less slippery
- fingerprint sensor feels more responsive, more accurate
- transitions are smooth
I just got it set up an hour ago so can't speak on screen, battery, etc but I like it so far.
Coming from Pixel 3. So all below compare to P3
- bezel is thiiiiin, awesome!
- screen is way bigger, while phone size is just a tiny bigger.
- battery is crazy good. 6 hour SOT with 37% left now. (Fast charger killed P3's battery probably)
- camera processing speed about the same.
- wide lens is awesome
- plastic feels great and less scary without a case. It's on the way.
- usb port is tighter. The P3 now will drop some cables.
- DSDS works wonder. I have Fi and Verizon
brandontowey said:
- slightly narrower and shorter than pixel 3a xl, feels denser, better for my smallish hands
- case texture is nice, less slippery
- fingerprint sensor feels more responsive, more accurate
- transitions are smooth
I just got it set up an hour ago so can't speak on screen, battery, etc but I like it so far.
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Looking forward to your updates! I am moving from the Pixel 3a XL.
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Looking forward to your updates! I am moving from the Pixel 3a XL.
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Great so far:
- faster, boots super quick
- still have 50% battery at the end of day
- loving the smaller size
- google gestures are 50% crap but got used to gestures with Dirty Unicorns so waiting on ROMs to get those back
- Magisk working well but haven't gotten ViperFX working unfortunately
- 5g is in my area but haven't given it a run since I'm always on wifi
Compared to Pixel 3XL
Has a great feel in the hand, it feels "premium" even though it's plastic.
Display is awesome, looks really good.
Have to say the buttons feel "cheap", for lack of a better word. I'm sure it'll be fine, it is a Google phone.
The buttons on the 3XL are just a different grade of quality, you'd have to have both to know the difference.
The punch hole kinda gets on my nerves.
I got the device free through the T-Mobile promotion, so really can't gripe too much about it. My wife is probably gonna steal it from me because it has a headphone jack, she's missing that on her One Plus 7 Pro. The trade off is I get to tinker with the 7 Pro
I got no complaints so far, other than the buttons, lol. Just got it today, battery still at 100% after 3 hours, but I haven't used it much. I'm sure it'll be on par with the Pixel 5, since practically the same specs. Should get the Spigen case and screen protectors first of next week. After that, it'll get some real use.
Google is offering $300 trade-in for your Pixel 3 now!
So, third time the charm, it took a long detour - after Pix4a and Pix5 I landed w/ Pixel 4a 5G, imo the best of them for many reasons. P4a felt kinda flimsy with the creaky housing and I think the digitizer had some 'touch' issues, though the camera was fine. My Pixel 5 had no gaps whatsoever, but the camera didn't produce sharp pics, maybe because of the newest software version. Didn't know about that until now so I shot some pics w/4a5g today having the camera updated to ver. 8.x.x and then I reverted that update to 7.x.x. and took some more shots. Whatever I say about any differences, it'll be a subjective opinion, I see it – other ppl may not. Uploaded couple of pics to '4a5g Photo...” thread if you're interested to see them.
I think now am gonna settle down for a while with Pix4a5G, it's a keeper, I need to have around an extra phone and this one should serve me well for many years ahead. It's my second day with it and I can't really find anything bad or wrong about this phone. Perfect size actually, 6.2” makes it only a few millimeters shorter than my Note 10+, but the width is bigger, at least feels that way because N10+ has rounded edges. Phone is very responsive, everything works smoothly, got rid of all the apps I don't need so I'm not being annoyed with Google's intrusive attempts to “helping” me operating my phone.
Great battery life, no overheating – 'cool cucumber', downloaded in one shot yesterday some 20GB of my music from Amazon, I remember other phones I've had, getting really hot at this point but not this one, couldn't believe, it stayed just lukewarm – no problem'o'.
Coming from Samsung Galaxy S7 on Verizon. Now on T-Mobile with my Pixel.
So far, about 2 weeks, the Pixel has been a great improvement. Faster, with a sharper and brighter display.
The gestures take getting used to, but I'm finding that it works better than I thought it would.
Minor things, none of them are deal breakers, that I would change of I could: 1) put volume buttons and power button on opposite sides of the device; 2) put headphone jack on bottom with the usb port; & 3) I'd make the phone a little smaller.
Still waiting to get my device unlocked so I can modify it more to my liking.