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The Galaxy Note confirms it: people want larger screens

A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
It jokes about the "optimal" iphone 3.5 incher.
YES. People like Galaxy Note.
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This is so true. At first i thought "damit is that thing big, i should bring it back to store" but when i put it in my pocket it fits and i can walk run and jump with the note in my pocket. So for me its the best phone ever until now iv'e ever had. I love the scree size, if i compare it to the holy iphone i have to laugh everytime about the size..... Its so cute this little iphone thing. I could give it to childrens who can play with it in a sandbox.

Exactly. Those "tech bloggers" should be making fun of people trying to use their "revolutionary" smartphone's functions on a tiny, heavy and fragile 3.5 incher instead...

I hardly ever played any games on my EVO but thats all I do on my Note!!
It simply kicks ass!! Fun times!!

All the reviewers are Jabronis.....perfect size the note is ....especially if you have big hands like me ....cant stand anything else will never go back.....

On-screen controls in games always felt wrong on those small 3.5" phones.. on the S2 they felt better.. on the note they make sense..
sure smaller is sometimes better.. but when packing all this power into a device biggish is good
5.3" aint that big either, just a tad bigger then my wallet but alot thinner.
i followed some links in that blogg and came onto another planet where i was told the android UI makes us need larger screens cos else we wouldn't see anything if android got higher res.. font-size? bigger icons? felt like easy fixes...
kinda feels like iphonE lovers just digs deeper and deeper into something to hold on to.. to make them feel "i did the right choice, my phone is the best"
sad truth is my sister loves the Note but felt she couldn't buy it cos its to big.. she would feel looked at and laughed at.. so she settled with the S2.
i often tell ppl if they are not into computers, etc when they ask if they should buy an iphone or Note to buy an iphone, the safe no-one will laugh at your choice and no-one will question why. its kinda like putting on pants, no one will ask you why.
sorry for the rant..

Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome

zas311 said:
people want larger screens
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... or people want a stylus and Apple may have to eat SJ's words if they want to catch up.
Apparently a lot of Asian markets like the Note because it's easier to input characters than a keyboard based interface.
Personally, any larger form factor and it would be difficult to fit in my jeans pocket.

DPMAce said:
Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.

i remember a point when I said 5" is the most any phone should go to. well, now I do believe the limit is 6" since anything bigger than that is a tablet fully at that point.
man i want a 6" phone or a SAMOLED+ HD tablet with telephony

I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.

Akiainavas said:
I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I can tottaly relate, I bought it blindly like you :-D
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I also almost regret my Note but after 2 days ... I was just hooked
I think, it's not like people want large screen, it's just it fit some people needs (like watching movies, browsing etc)

Yeah there's still more room in my pocket for something bigger.
But not my jean pockets lol. I don't know how you guys can put this phone in your jean pockets. And I want a full usb port or 2 on it. The more things it can do like a netbook, the better.

zas311 said:
A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
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This is more a rant than an article.
The note does not confirm that "people want larger screens". What it confirms is that some people want larger screens.
The claim that "Android phones go for the larger screen" is also not correct. There are many Android phone manufacturers and many models, of all shapes and sizes. Search using gsmarena finds 185 Android models with sceeen of size 3.2" or smaller.

I've got the largest hands in the whole town so the NOTE feels average to me.
Sometimes I even think, maybe this should be a little larger like 5.5inches. But now I've equipped the NOTE with the TPU case. Its quite protective, has a very grippy sides and it has a KICKSTAND!!!
But with the case on, I have some trouble slipping it into some pockets (jeans mainly).
So after pondering a bit, I think Samsung should make the NOTE with a kickstand, and shave off the bezel from the top and bottom portions.
OR
Make it smaller (from 147 x 83mm; 5.3inch) to 145mm x 79mm (shorter, little less wide, 5.1inch). It needs to shave off some of the bezel, for the premium aspects.
Though my biggest problems is that:
-Back and Menu buttons should be physical (its too damn easy to accidentally press them; frustrating when you accidentally exit an App and have to start from scratch)
-They should position the volume rocker on the right side and make it clickier (like the Nexus S)
-They should position the power button on the top and make it larger and clikier (like the Nexus S)
-Trade the position of Back and Menu button; and hitting the Menu button should bring the contexual menu's on the bottom and the search bar on the top.
If Samsung hired me for a prototype, my device would outsell any competitors!

I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.

hagba said:
I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?

adelmundo said:
Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
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I think the idea of 6 inches with the same form factor is great all they would then need to do is increase the resolution as the pixel density will not compete with the likes of Sony Arc S or some of the other 4-4.5 HD screens.
If they did both of these and then made even better stylus apps and support. Then I think it would be game over even for some of the tablet market.
One a separate NOTE, does anyone know if the Note2 is confirmed?

Kangal said:
---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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I had a kickstand on my HD7. Thought it was nice - at first. Later on...i never even used it. Phone would just fall down, and it was impossible to use it with any cable connected ( earphones ) cause it would - again - fall.
I like the idea of a kickstand, but i think it might be a bit hard to make it stable enough on such a large phone.

Nexus 6 10.1mm thickness?!?

Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.06mm at it's thickest point @ the top of the device The sides are 3.8mm and the bottom is slimmer (image 2).
So it's 3.8 to 10.06mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
Hopefully this clears it up for some potential buyers haha.
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That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?

bigf00t said:
That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?
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That's the SIM card tray I believe

bigf00t said:
That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?
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The nano-SIM tray

Having a G3, I can attest that curved back really does help for one-hand use.
Although, the Nexus 6 might be big to the point where any kind of one-hand use would be a real challenge.

Bjray said:
Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.1mm at it's thickest point. The sides are 3.8mm
So it's 3.8 to 10.1mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
Hopefully this clears it up for some potential buyers haha.
Source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
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Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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bradputt said:
Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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I believe it's the moto X 2014 which is also 10mm thick by the way.
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I really hate that size and in this case the thin size becomes a point of issue, do not most of us put a case on the thing anyway?
So if they had managed to make it 3.8 evenly, it would be back up there once the case was on it, so to me it doesn't matter.

I think 10.1mm thick still can acceptable.

I prefer it was 12 or 14mm thick, but 10mm is acceptable.
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Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus. Not even as big as a Galaxy Mega.

eksasol said:
I prefer it was 12 or 14mm thick, but 10mm is acceptable.
You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus. Not even as big as a Galaxy Mega.
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It's actually slightly larger than the iPhone 6+. It's smaller than the Galaxy Mega and the Nokia 1520, though.

By the time Note 4 owners add a Qi charging back cover they will be holding a 10mm thick brick. Even worse are the ZeroLemon battery nazis that will be holding 1999 Nextel bricks. Also worse than a 10mm device that tapers off to the edges that already has Qi built in.

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You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus.
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No it's actually quite a bit wider than the iPhone 6+, which will effect how it feels to hold a lot. See: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
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Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.1mm at it's thickest point. The sides are 3.8mm
So it's 3.8 to 10.1mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
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You really should make it clear in your OP that the photo is of the Moto X (a much smaller phone) not the Nexus 6. It makes the phone appear much smaller in the person's hand than the Nexus 6 will be.
The tapered edges, I think, help with the hand feel of a smaller phone like the Moto X or OnePlus One. But on an enormous phone like the Nexus 6, it's not going to help you wrap your hands around the overall width of the phone. And as far as putting the phone in your pocket goes, it's the dimension at the thickest point that counts. The tapered edges won't help with that at all.

cb474 said:
No it's actually quite a bit wider than the iPhone 6+, which will effect how it feels to hold a lot. See: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
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You really should make it clear in your OP that the photo is of the Moto X (a much smaller phone) not the Nexus 6. It makes the phone appear much smaller in the person's hand than the Nexus 6 will be.
The tapered edges, I think, help with the hand feel of a smaller phone like the Moto X or OnePlus One. But on an enormous phone like the Nexus 6, it's not going to help you wrap your hands around the overall width of the phone. And as far as putting the phone in your pocket goes, it's the dimension at the thickest point that counts. The tapered edges won't help with that at all.
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It's just a reference showing the exact same degree of the the curve that the N6 also has. Didn't think anyone would mistake it for the N6.
And yes it could help with wielding the overall width of the device, pick up a Note 4 and it feels like a brick, add a slight curve to it and it'll fit more naturally in your hand (look at your fingers when holding one, they curve anyway).
Found some better pictures (it's an actual Nexus 6 this time! )
And BTW most devices are around 10mm also at some section, look at the Note 4's camera sticking out. The N6 is flush.

I don't mind the thickness, the height but I do mind the width.
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Bjray said:
And yes it could help with wielding the overall width of the device, pick up a Note 4 and it feels like a brick, add a slight curve to it and it'll fit more naturally in your hand.
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As I said, for something as extremely large as the Nexus 6, I just don't think the taper is going to make that much of a difference. In reviews of the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One, with tapered edges, reviewers are pretty clear that the taper helps, but is not as good as a device that is simply overall thinner. And those are smaller phones. It's a mistake to assume that tapers are equally effective in all cases. For the Nexus 6, it's just a super wide phone, compared to other phablets. It's going to be a lot to wrap your hand around, anyway you cut it.
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Found some better pictures (it's an actual Nexus 6 this time! )
And BTW most devices are around 10mm also at some section, look at the Note 4's camera sticking out. The N6 is flush.
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I don't think the Note 4 is a good phone to compare to the Nexus 6 for thinness. It's only 1.5 mm thinner. The iPhone 6+ is a better point of comparison. It's 3 mm thinner--making the Nexus 6 40% thicker.
Also people should keep in mind that the 3.8 mm dimension at the edge is only exactly at the edge. Even a couple mm before the edge, the phone is significantly thicker. In the photos you provide it's pretty easy to see that the taper is very slight until you get pretty close to the side of the Nexus 6. Actually, those photos make the taper on the Nexus 6 seem much less than on the 2nd Gen Moto X (but maybe it's just the photos).
What's more, none of this responds to my point that when the phone is in your pocket (if you can get it in there) the tapers aren't going to make any difference. In your pocket it's only the thickest point that's going to matter. So the already potentially marginal benefits of the taper, should not be overstated and overgeneralized.
As I've been saying in another thread, I just don't see the point in pretending the Nexus 6 is not a very large phone that is going to feel pretty beefy in the hand and be hard to get into any kind of pocket. It's a great phone. Many people like the size. But for those who are concerned about the size and who aren't into huge phones, they have reason to be concerned.
That aside, where did you find those photos?

cb474 said:
(1) I don't think the Note 4 is a good phone to compare to the Nexus 6 for thinness. It's only 1.5 mm thinner. The iPhone 6+ is a better point of comparison. It's 3 mm thinner--making the Nexus 6 40% thicker.
(2) What's more, none of this responds to my point that when the phone is in your pocket (if you can get it in there) the tapers aren't going to make any difference. In your pocket it's only the thickest point that's going to matter. So the already potentially marginal benefits of the taper, should not be overstated and overgeneralized.
(3) That aside, where did you find those photos?
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1: That's the only photo showing the top and bottom of the N6. Also why even compare it to a iPhone? We're talking about an Android enthusiast device after all. The Note 4 is the closest apples to apples comparison.
2: If you can pocket a Note device, you pocket a Nexus 6. Simple as that. Your not going to feel or see a 1.6mm difference....
3: The source is posted in the OP.
I understand where your coming from, but I think you've got tapered edges and fully curved backs confused.
Tapered edges = Just a taper on the edges of the body. The iPhone 6 and Note 4 have these, but not curved backs.
Curved back = The whole back cover is curved with the middle being thicker by design so your fingers rest / grip on it. The HTC One M8 is 9.4mm thick but it doesn't feel like it at all because it's curved back is creating an illusion.
There is quite a difference between the two. The only con (with fully curved) is a thicker device down the middle BUT it does feel like a smaller device because creating an illusion that it's smaller.

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1: That's the only photo showing the top and bottom of the N6. Also why even compare it to a iPhone? We're talking about an Android enthusiast device after all. The Note 4 is the closest apples to apples comparison.
2: If you can pocket a Note device, you pocket a Nexus 6. Simple as that. Your not going to feel or see a 1.6mm difference....
3: The source is posted in the OP.
I understand where your coming from, but I think you've got tapered edges and fully curved backs confused.
Tapered edges = Just a taper on the edges of the body. The iPhone 6 and Note 4 have these, but not curved backs.
Curved back = The whole back cover is curved with the middle being thicker by design so your fingers rest / grip on it. The HTC One M8 is 9.4mm thick but it doesn't feel like it at all because it's curved back is creating an illusion.
There is quite a difference between the two. The only con (with fully curved) is a thicker device down the middle BUT it does feel like a smaller device because creating an illusion that it's smaller.
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We're taking about hardware. It's irrelevant what OS the phone runs. The iPhone 6+ shows us what a thin large phablet can be like. Are you saying only Apple is capable of making a phone that thin? My point was that comparing the thickness of the Nexus 6 to the Note 4 to make it seem not so thick is not a good point of comparison, because the iPhone 6+ shows us how much thinner a phone of this size can be. A similar photo of the Nexus 6 and the iPhone 6+ stacked on top of each other would make the Nexus 6 seem like the beefy phone that it is.
I think a lot of people would question whether you can pocket a Note device. And it is absurd to say that if you can pocket a Note then you can pocket the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is half a centimeter wider than the Note 4, almost half a centimeter taller, and thicker. They are in no way equivalent in size. Look at the two phones in PhoneArena's size comparison tool: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...exus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4/phones/8626,8577 Any reasonable person looking at that can see that the Nexus 6 is a significantly larger phone than the Note 4.
When I said tapered edges, I meant it in the sense that you're using "curved back," so you're positing a difference that isn't one. The truth is almost all of the thinness of the Nexus 6 is very close to the edge. The curve of the back from the middle does make it much thinner for most of the back.
You're right that curved backs can make phones nice to hold, when they are a reasonable size like the 1st Gen Moto X, with a 4.7" screen. That phone was praised higly by most reviewers for how great it felt to hold. But the same reviewers all have found larger devices with similar designs, like the 2nd Gen Moto X and the OnePlus One, to not be nearly as nice to hold. They grant that the taper/curve mitigates some of the size of the phone, but do not say it magically makes it feel like a smaller phone. There's a difference between mitigating the effects of the size and simply being a smaller phone. And the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One are nowhere near as big as the Nexus 6. The taper/curve design simply has diminishing returns as the device gets bigger. At some point it's just wide and hard to get your hand around.
Would you assert that Nexus 7 tablet (more than twice as wide as the Nexus 6), if it had the same curved back design, would be fine to hold in one hand, because of the curve? Obviously that would be an absurd position to take. Overall deminsions matter. The Nexus 6 is not going to fit comfortably in most people's hands, unless your an NBA player. Get over it. It's a huge device. If you like that fine. But insisting that it will fit well in the hand (or pocket) is silly. It's going to be a challenge for the vast majority of people.

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We're taking about hardware. It's irrelevant what OS the phone runs. The iPhone 6+ shows us what a thin large phablet can be like. Are you saying only Apple is capable of making a phone that thin? My point was that comparing the thickness of the Nexus 6 to the Note 4 to make it seem not so thick is not a good point of comparison, because the iPhone 6+ shows us how much thinner a phone of this size can be. A similar photo of the Nexus 6 and the iPhone 6+ stacked on top of each other would make the Nexus 6 seem like the beefy phone that it is.
I think a lot of people would question whether you can pocket a Note device. And it is absurd to say that if you can pocket a Note then you can pocket the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is half a centimeter wider than the Note 4, almost half a centimeter taller, and thicker. They are in no way equivalent in size. Look at the two phones in PhoneArena's size comparison tool: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...exus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4/phones/8626,8577 Any reasonable person looking at that can see that the Nexus 6 is a significantly larger phone than the Note 4.
When I said tapered edges, I meant it in the sense that you're using "curved back," so you're positing a difference that isn't one. The truth is almost all of the thinness of the Nexus 6 is very close to the edge. The curve of the back from the middle does make it much thinner for most of the back.
You're right that curved backs can make phones nice to hold, when they are a reasonable size like the 1st Gen Moto X, with a 4.7" screen. That phone was praised higly by most reviewers for how great it felt to hold. But the same reviewers all have found larger devices with similar designs, like the 2nd Gen Moto X and the OnePlus One, to not be nearly as nice to hold. They grant that the taper/curve mitigates some of the size of the phone, but do not say it magically makes it feel like a smaller phone. There's a difference between mitigating the effects of the size and simply being a smaller phone. And the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One are nowhere near as big as the Nexus 6. The taper/curve design simply has diminishing returns as the device gets bigger. At some point it's just wide and hard to get your hand around.
Would you assert that Nexus 7 tablet (more than twice as wide as the Nexus 6), if it had the same curved back design, would be fine to hold in one hand, because of the curve? Obviously that would be an absurd position to take. Overall deminsions matter. The Nexus 6 is not going to fit comfortably in most people's hands, unless your an NBA player. Get over it. It's a huge device. If you like that fine. But insisting that it will fit well in the hand (or pocket) is silly. It's going to be a challenge for the vast majority of people.
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I was just saying sure we could compare it to an iPhone 6+ but is it really fair? Sure it will show how beefy the N6 is in the middle but can you really say the iP6+ and N6 have the same capability's regardless of the OS. That's why I'm saying it's kind of a useless comparison IMHO.
And we're talking about the thickness of the device are we not? You made it seem like the extra 1.6mm thickness alone would make a "absurd" footprint for a pocket.
Also I wasn't trying to get the point across that the N6 will feel smaller because of a curved back. Rather it would make it simply easier hold to which is better than nothing at all. (you don't think a curved back would make it worse, now do you?)
Also the OnePlus One doesn't really even have a curved back the LG G3 is much better (and reviewers say so) but the Moto X, One M8 and N6 are still at the extremes according to the degree of the the curve. Just something to think about when referencing that 5.5"+ devices with a curve is not as effective (which it isn't, but it also isn't useless).
And no the N7 with a truly curved back would not be a good idea, since your hands already have a hard time fully wrapping your hands around it. So tapered edges are the superior choice beyond that point.
And you seem to not have any experience with a Note or any phablet device for the matter. Therefor it's probably hard for you to comprehend that size in your pocket without experiencing it first hand. Heck, my mom (not a NBA player) has a Mega with an 6.3" screen and we can still hold the device OK and pocket it fine.
People have different width and overall phone footprint tolerances. What seems like it needs "NBA player-sized" hands to you, is easy and comfortable for a lot of users. Get over it.
Anyway, this is getting nowhere since we don't have the device yet. Not even reviews either. Let's just wait for those before passing judgment.

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I was just saying sure we could compare it to an iPhone 6+ but is it really fair? Sure it will show how beefy the N6 is in the middle but can you really say the iP6+ and N6 have the same capability's regardless of the OS. That's why I'm saying it's kind of a useless comparison IMHO.
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Again, we're talking about comparing physical designs and what is possible with them. The OS is irrelevant. By your logic, even your comparison between the Note 4 and the Nexus 6 is "useless" since one has a skinned version of Android and the other stock Android. It's not the same interface skin so how can we possibly compare the hardware? Your position makes no sense.
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And we're talking about the thickness of the device are we not? You made it seem like the extra 1.6mm thickness alone would make a "absurd" footprint for a pocket.
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The Nexus 6 is 40% thicker (3mm thicker) than the iPhone 6+. I was arguing that is a good way to get an idea of how beefy the Nexus 6 is. The Note 4 is 1.5 mm thinner than the Nexus 6 (I don't know where your 1.6 mm number comes from). I was simply arguing that if someone already finds the Note 4 not to be readily pocketable (as many people do) then the Nexus 6 is going to be worse, because it is thicker. I can't imagine how any reasonable person could argue otherwise.
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Also I wasn't trying to get the point across that the N6 will feel smaller because of a curved back. Rather it would make it simply easier hold to which is better than nothing at all.
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Yes, I understand you were saying the curved back makes it easier to hold. My point is: 1) A curved back makes a phone easier to hold than if it does not have a curved back. It does not making it easier to hold than a phone that is simply smaller. 2) There is a point at which a phone is so wide that it really is irrelevant whether the back is curved or not. Some things can't be mitigated by design. The Nexus 6 is huge. I think the curved back will not be nearly as beneficial as with smaller phones like the LG G3, let alone the even smaller 1st Gen Moto X. Many many reviewers have made this point. I find it to be true also in my experience with the phones.
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And no the N7 with a truly curved back would not be a good idea, since your hands already have a hard time fully wrapping your hands around it. So tapered edges are the superior choice beyond that point.
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Um, I brought up the N7 example only as an absurd example of how beyond a certain size you can't hold something comfortably in one hand, let alone even wrap a single had around the device, so the a curve in the back would not matter. I'm surprised you're taking the point literally. Maybe I should have used a current generation iMac (which have similar curved backs) as an example, perhaps then it would have been obvious that the curve of the back does not make the device easily held in the palm of one's hand.The point is that as the device gets larger, the curve of a back offers diminishing returns for holdling it in a single hand. I think the benefits with the Nexus 6 will be minimal, since they already don't help that nearly as muchy with the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One, as with the smaller 1st Gen Moto X.
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And you seem to not have any experience with a Note or any phablet device for the matter. Therefor it's probably hard for you to comprehend that size in your pocket without experiencing it first hand. Heck, my mom (not a NBA player) has a Mega with an 6.3" screen and we can still hold the device OK and pocket it fine.
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Your Mom must have big pockets, since most people find even the smaller Note devices not to be very pocketable. Anyway, I have experience with all of these phones. I was only pointing to the comments of reviewers to make it clear that few people with a lot of experience with phones share your opinion about the curved back on very large devices and the pocketability of a very large device like the Nexus 6.
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People have different width and overall phone footprint tolerances. What seems like it needs "NBA player-sized" hands to you, is easy and comfortable for a lot of users.
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Only 14% of the smartphone market worldwide is phablets. The vast majority of people do not like these large devices and find them cumbersome to use. Yes, there are many people that like them. I have acknowledged that all along. For those people, the Nexus 6 is a great device.
But your argument seems to be that anyone who doesn't like the size of the Nexus 6 is wrong and should like it, because you will dictate to them that the size is fine and there is no grounds for any objection. That's just ridiculous. My argument is that people have different prefences about size. Some people like phablets. More people don't like them. But there is no reason to pretend that the Nexus 6 is not huge and try to convince people who don't like phablets that the Nexus 6 is not that big. It's huge (and it's thick for such a big device) and that's the truth. People just have to decide whether they are okay with that or not.

First Impressions about HTC U11

Hello, everyone!
I watched few reviews about the phone...And really sorry to say it but I'm not much impressed, but I definitely will upgrade to from htc one m8. Big htc fan here . I like the style, screen, colours ..Can't really say about the camera probably will be good.The new sound should be awesome + the headphones... But when come to the software..... For one year they didn't touch the sense? Really ? Even TouchWiz is changing, can't understand why htc decided to stay at sense 8, or like is now just "HTC Sense UI" . In the whole review, I generally see - The colours, squeeze (I think they too much depending on this new feature which we still didn't know how it will work after month or two of using it), How google OK works that was fun tho , wasn't working the first few times and the 3d sound...And exactly how they said - simple. And I wasn't disappointed like this from quite long time .I expected something more "brilliant". They just made a review on software app - the edge stuff, htc companion and OK Google They even didn't mention htc sense, which didn't move much from 2015. Isn't this little bit pathetic to you? I want to hear your thoughts on that. Did you expect more, like me? Anyway, I'm still considering buying it when the sales start in my region.

Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa it will be a well done upgrade if new ways of using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come one step further as well. Only thing to name here, as it will already suffice, is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.

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How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.
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Screen noticeably better than on 10. U11 is a "must update" for anyone holding prior to a 10. For 10 owners, not mandatory (but definitely better in several ways).

anyone listened to the headphones is it the same loudness of of htc 10 ?

Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa will be of a well done upgrade if new ways using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come One step further as well. Just One thing to name is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.

One thing I need to know, is the earpiece speaker better/louder than the horribly quiet 10? If I'm anywhere other than a relatively quiet place I can barely hear anyone on a phone call.

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This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.
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Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I'm excited to see how the device does irl, I never pre-order. The echo dots are cool, but I don't think I will use them much. Also concerned about charging and using headphones at the same time. I do that at work and on flights. I might wait for the note 8, but that is a long way off and will probably be a huge phone.
For the money, I think the U11 is the best bang/buck combo, especially because it is unlocked, will have custom roms and all kinds of tweaks that this great community will use.
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Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.

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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.
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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy

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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.

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Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.
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Not a deal breaker for me either im just not a fan of the aesthetics.
The 5.5 screen is something i can't deal with though ...my s7 edge has it and I hate it (although the U11 would be alot better due to the normal aspect ratio). Its mostly why i went with the S8 plus....just for the screen size.

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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small.
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If a smartphone can be too thin for its own good, we can agree the same applies to bezels. I wager that people wanting less and less bezels aren't accustomed to the issues that come with them. First, a bezel adds strength... I'll let you take a guess as to what effect shrinking it would have on that. Then there's the absolutely annoying accidental touching issues... and no, cases don't help with that unless you use a really bulky case. I've never held or owned a phone and said "I wish the bezels were smaller" nor have I ever felt that bezels impeded any phone's functionality and my ability to use them.

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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small. You really think that the 0.3" that your S8+ has over this U11's 5.5" display really matters, ROFL? Don't make me laugh.
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Ive owned lots of phones from various manufacturers over the years including HTC. Other than the 6P there hasnt been anything else that Ive really liked the last few years other than what sammy has delivered.
And i guess your reading comprehension is not that great as i mentioned 2 things i wasnt a fan of on the U11...and I also mentioned everything else looked great.
Im here because the device does hold some interest for me...and because I can be. Dont like what i say....move along...
And i wont bother with your silliness after this, dont want the mods in here now do we?

Moderator Warning,
Guys enough of the bickering please. Can we keep the posts civil. I will be keeping a eye on this thread.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I actually got that dark blue

force70 said:
Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
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this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.

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this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.
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Please elaborate, Id like to see what exactly bezels...in particular top and bottom have to do with performance.
I could see before on the m7,m8 etc with the full front firing speakers but such is not the case with the U11.
And I wasnt remotely argumentative..i was merely sharing my first impression of the device as that is the thread title is it not?
Thanks.
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Essential Ph-One or something else,.... and why,....?

I am most likely going to get the Essential Ph-One, but am wondering what hardware /software keeps people from going full on w/ this new E. Ph-One? Both that the phone has or doesn't and that other manufacturers do,...

I came from a long line of Nexus/Pixel devices but recently switched to the Galaxy S8 a couple of months ago. After experiencing the bezel-less life, I couldn't imagine going back to something that has large bezels like the Pixel/Pixel XL. However, I'd like to get back into something with a more "pure Android" feel. So far the essential phone looks like a very viable option.
I was going to hold out for the 2nd generation of Pixel phones, but leaks from reputable sources are pointing to the smaller Pixel 2 having massive bezels and the larger Pixel XL2 simply being an enormous phone (pushing 6.4" tall). If the rumors about the Pixel line-up are true, neither phone will work for me. From what I've seen so far, the Essential phone is more or less what I was hoping the 2nd generation Pixel would be.
However, with apps and OS features requiring more and more resources, I'm a bit nervous about the 4GB RAM in the Essential phone. I'm also a bit baffled by their decision to go with LCD when the new standard in flagships is AMOLED. I'd understand if the use of LCD was to cut costs and lower the price, but at $700 that logic doesn't hold. Lastly, the initial reviews of the camera are very "meh" with no one being overly impressed with the pictures the Essential phone takes.
Another option I am considering is the OnePlus 5. 6-8GB of RAM, pure Android experience, blazing fast finger print scanner, AMOLED 5.5" screen and a good camera. It also has a headphone jack and while I know that this "feature" is on its way out, I'm just not quite ready to let go if I don't have to. The big downside of this phone is the 2015/2016 size top and bottom bezels. However, OnePlus does make good use of the bottom bezel by putting the finger print scanner/home button and capacitive buttons in that area, which frees up screen space from the on-screen nav bar. Not to mention that it's $160-$230 cheaper than the Essential phone, depending on which model you choose.
To make matters even more confusing, the iPhone 8 is rumored to be announced on September 6th. So at this point I'll probably take some more time to see what that has to offer and evaluate further.

I no longer buy phones from a carrier.
The phone must have a boot loader I can unlock.
I need to "own" my phone. If I can't load any ROM I want, I don't own the phone.
I already bought my Essential PH-1

Anyone disappointed about the new Mix 2?

Well, the (successor?) to the Mix has finally launched and I'm quite disappointed about what it turned out to be.
When the Mix was launched, it was one of a kind and a head-turner with almost everything you could ask for in a smartphone (minus the camera of course). But now, the Mix 2 only seems to be an incremental update with many corners cut.
1. The chin is just 12%smaller and looks much larger than those teasers Xiaomi released from time to time.
2. The screen resolution or type hasn't changed. Just slightly modified for the 18:9 aspect ratio. (2160x1080 vs 2040x1080). Also with the new aspect ratio, the overall screen real-estate has shrunk.
Would have appreciated a switch to AMOLED and a higher resolution to call it an upgrade.
3. Of course the chipset has been updated to the latest but I was never too excited about the Snapdragon 835 considering the 821 is no slouch.
4. The camera was a much needed upgrade and I appreciate that they've managed to squeeze in the Sony IMX386. Then again, this isn't a flagship camera compared to the competition but obviously better than that of the current Mix. So it's very much welcome but not a defining feature. Talking about the front camera, I guess Xiaomi has once again put a mediocre POS in there judging by the fact they didn't make a fuss about it.
5. To squeeze in the camera + OIS and the 18:9 aspect ratio, they've shredded 1000mah from the battery which is very disappointing. I guess I am most disappointed about this aspect.
6. No 3.5mm jack. - I wouldn't have been disappointed by the lack of 3.5mm if the rest of the specsheet were damn impressive and on par with other flagships. But it looks like Xiaomi just wanted to be more like Apple here. Removed the jack for no reason. I see myself using the headphone jack from time to time and I believe everyone does at times. Also, I doubt the Mix 2's audio via the provided USB-C adapter can match the Original Mix's inbuilt powerful headphone amp unless you invest in an external DAC.
When the Mi Mix was launched, it was above every other flagship of the time, except maybe the camera. It gave the Galaxy S7 Edge a run for it's money. It was bold and beautiful.
I gladly paid more than a Galaxy S7 Edge to get this and didn't regret.
But looking at the Mix 2, I don't know whether it stands a chance against the Galaxy S8, especially considering prices of the S8/S8+ has dropped after the launch of the Note 8. Slim bezels are not a defining feature anymore as almost everyone has caught up and so, I feel that the Mix 2 doesn't have anything which will make it stand out against the competition.
I don't see it as a worthy upgrade to the original Mix. It is just how the Galaxy Note 2 was to the Original Galaxy Note with slight spec bump and nothing exciting if anyone remembers.
To conclude, I don't see how this would compel any existing users to upgrade. Morover I don't see the specsheet motivating any new buyers to choose this over a similarly priced S8+.
For those who are still considering getting a Mix, my opinion would be to get the Original one while it is still available for a discount as Xiaomi usually pulls the device from the market soon after the successor is out, most likely because they can't afford to produce and sell the previous gen device at a very low price. For those actually considering spending on a Mix 2, the S8/S8+ is now similarly priced (check ebay) in most markets and offer better value for your money.
What are your thoughts?

Agree with pretty much everything you said but the tiny screen of the new model kills it for me. I find the note 8 tiny after using the Mix for so long. I wish they made a Mix 2+ with a 6.4" display, I would so pay for that.
I'm staying with the original Mix.

Totally agreed. It was hardly an upgrade by any means. I was honestly more impressed with Xiaomi's MI Note Pro than the Mix 2, Lol. That's the problem with scaling to fast though. The Mix was such a market turner when it came out, if you're a company with certain stylistic choices, it's hard to know how to follow-up.

This is what frustrates me with phone releases, after a good one step forward a company makes two steps back with the next.
Losing the headphone jack and dropping so much battery capacity, 25%....
I know I will never get exactly everything from a phone, there will always be compromise and I am OK with that but stop removing the great features that the previous phone had, the new is supposed to be better than the old!
They changed the aspect ratio. OK, I guess I can live with that. They reduced the screen size. OK, that's starting to hurt but I guess I can live with that too.
They removed the headphone jack. OK, I guess I live with that too but stop already!
No, then they cripple the battery and the icing on the cake, the camera bump protrudes more than on the old phone!
I like to think I'm a reasonable guy. OK, I get it, the new camera is larger. OIS may need more space too. Well, how about you make the phone thicker so that the camera is completely flush with the body and use that extra space for a bigger battery and maybe to bring the headphone jack back?
They reduced the bottom bezel by 12%, they should have worked on using that bezel to put capacitive buttons on it instead of the on screen buttons.
Whatever sales they do achieve, I am convinced that a phone with a better battery, a camera flush with body and a capacitive bottom bezel would sell better...

It was supposed to have the 836 before it was announced that there wouldn't even be an 836, which at least would have given it an edge performance-wise and extended its life.
With the big drop in battery, I don't think it would have been wise to go UHD anyway. Also, being HD, we get better performance in general (particularly in games) since it doesn't have to drive all those extra pixels. AMOLED would have been nice though.
The lack of the headphone jack is a big loss for some, especially considering the Mix had one of the best DACs out there. I don't use headphones that much but I'd still miss it if it was gone.
If they'd just taken the Mix and dropped in an 835 and a better camera I'd probably have upgraded.

Agree with all the points you've made and while it's a disappointment, I'm glad that my almost 1 year old mi mix has features I can appreciate over it's successor.
The bezels look more impressive on the first mix and I can't believe they dropped the battery capacity by that much and removed the headphone jack !

I'm disappointed too
No 3.5mm jack
No OLED
and why!?! 5.99? I want at least 6.4 inch
The camera stands out
and a 1000mha smaller battery?
besides, I don't like the speaker upstairs either,
Only the band 20 support would be useful for me as a German.
But there I can also get a NOTE 8....
but now it will probably stay the good old mi mix 256 for a long time.
or the iphone 8

No reason to buy 1 if you have the mix, thought it was going to be something special

If this is their idea of a better phone, then sadly I see my next phone being the Note 9.
For now I'm sticking with the Mix 1.
It's a notable drop in screen size from the Mix 1.
It's like 15% smaller (roughly 15.64 vs 16.93 sq inches).
Smaller than the galaxy note 8, although it's 'shorter'.
It's nice to see them fixing the major issues from the Mix1 (camera, speaker).
Hopefully it's more drop proof now, too.
But it's no longer the biggest screen/battery for a pocketable phone, and that's a major loss,
So now you ask - what's the point? It it really THAT much better looking than other phones?
Not really.
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It is just how the Galaxy Note 2 was to the Original Galaxy Note with slight spec bump and nothing exciting if anyone remembers.
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I was a VERY early adopter of the Galaxy note 1, and I can assure you - the galaxy note 2 was significantly better than the galaxy note 1 and I can't recall a single negative. The note 1 was definitely a 'market test device' as there were NO large screen phones at the time. It was clunky as hell, while the note 2 was a wonderful phone
One arguable downside was the screen aspect ratio 'dropped' from 16:10 to 16:9, but they made the screen size bigger (5.3 to 5.5) to compensate and the overall screen size stayed the same..
I would have been nice for xiaomi to release a 'full size' 6.4 and the current 'smaller' version for people who REALLY want one handed use or whatever. I guess they don't have enough 'ceramic' capacity to do that. Really quite a shame. I imagine the screen to bezel ratio would be even higher on a larger phone.

I'm also disappointed of Xiaomi I was hoping for a smaller chin instead we've got a smaller phone without head phone jack, that's messed up yo, I'm sticking with my mix till next year when they come up with a worthy phone to upgrade to. No head phone jack? now they are copying apple on that, damn you Xiaomi,

I'm bound to get the better products developed by phone manufacturers it seems ... Oneplus One was an amazing phone and already is a legend, Mi Mix a stunning concept phone that set new grounds in the industry.
I'm glad I made the right choice 2 months ago and went for the 1st gen, instead of waiting for the next one and spend more cash for little to no improvements in what's definitely more crucial to me, i.e. screen size and battery than a better camera. Next gen SoC won't make much of a difference in daily use, since the SD821 is already a great performer. Bezels seem even larger than the 1st gen

I got the Mi MIX in pre order so roughly 10 monts ago. Time files and I still feel like I would buy it a month ago.
The new mix did not bring in anything appealing to me... Samaller screen and no amoled... Smaller battery... the only two thing I like about it more than v1 is the metal frame and OIS..
No I will not buy it.

I'm disappointed too:
No P-OLED/AMOLED
No 2k/4k screen
Smaller batterry
Smaller screen size (not critical)
No way guys
Wrong way, china guys.

Seems like the top bezel is slightly larger on the new MIX. Cost of jamming a speaker in there I guess. I'm very content with the sound on the original anyway.
Special edition without 256gb??
Like the small rounded screen corners on the first. MI MIX 2 seems to have the same wide corners as the rest of the 2017 smartphone lineup.
Was never going to upgrade now anyway. Waiting for next 8XX chip + way....waaay to happy with my MIX.
Only compromise I would be ok with on the MIX 2 is the camera hump. OIS is sweet.

I have mix and mix 2 is absolutely terrible because it doesn't look like unique phone anymore. I got tired of charging my phone every evening, so a +4000 Mah battery was a nobrainer for me to get mix, now its ughhh.

Yes, i'm very disappointed...
was hoping that could have been a decent replacement for Note 4 with promised 6.4 oled screen and 4K battery, but....
with IPS, without 3.5 jack, smaller 6.0 screen and without microsd card slot this phone is not even an option. Very sad.
Also the bezels look huge in comparison with the renders distributed by xiaomi to create hype, which has left a very disappointing feeling that you were promised one thing and offered a very different one...
at the end of the day, the phone did not meet all the hype created, and is a flop (imho)

all im gonna say is.... ill definitely stick to my original mi mix.

Because some people (maybe alot) dont accep the 6.44' size. Their cant use, cant handle it. Then Xiaomi release Mix 2 to help their product come to more people and not to kill the Mix 1, smaller screen size make Mix 1 still alive.
But...the point is...Xiaomi next step...equal to turn back into their fan. I cant accept that. I want bigger screen..!! 6.44'..!! 7..!! But not... If the screent cant bigger.? I want better camera. Yes, they update it. But not enough. I dont care about snap 835. I care about 3400Mah battery. And yes...Mix still alive. Because I will stay with my Mix. My next phone is Note 8. I have hand-on it already. "Wow.! Beautiful". That all i can say. Bye bye mix 2. We will talk again when mix 3 release.
(Sorry about my bad English. But i really..!! Really want to talk about my dissapointed)

It seems Xiaomi used the Mix 1 has a test prototype to see if the technology was feasible and if there was a demand for the bezel-less concept. Since then all the big manufacturers jumped on board too and so the Mix 2 appears to be Xiaomi's attempt to compete with a more mainstream design. This is clear from the smaller width and the use of the more traditional speaker earpiece. Unfortunately this means it no longer stands out or looks futuristic. I still love my Mix 1 but I still like to try the new models so am now on the fence whether to get the Mix 2 or the Essential. The all-ceramic limited edition is tempting as I am a sucker for build quality and advanced materials.

#1: the screen size is a matter of personal preference; you can't please everyone.
6" might be the sweet spot for me in such a package.
#2: I like the fact that Xiaomi introduced another colour & diversified the choice of materials.
It's much harder to scratch a frame, however, most Mi MIX fails were devices which fell on a corner & cracked.
This shouldn't be an issue now with the aluminum frame. Ceramic is still there where it matters - the back.
#3: the camera was an epic fail on the original MIX, & an update to the IMX386 is welcome.
#4: epic fail on the form factor: a slim phone might be easier to hold, but as difficult to handle in 1 hand mode - example: reaching the top parts of the phone.
In addition, there is little to no content in 18:9, thus leading to letterboxing & waste of screen realestate.
#5: the drop in battery capacity to 3500mAh is a huge step back.