Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.06mm at it's thickest point @ the top of the device The sides are 3.8mm and the bottom is slimmer (image 2).
So it's 3.8 to 10.06mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
Hopefully this clears it up for some potential buyers haha.
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That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?
bigf00t said:
That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?
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That's the SIM card tray I believe
bigf00t said:
That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?
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The nano-SIM tray
Having a G3, I can attest that curved back really does help for one-hand use.
Although, the Nexus 6 might be big to the point where any kind of one-hand use would be a real challenge.
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Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.1mm at it's thickest point. The sides are 3.8mm
So it's 3.8 to 10.1mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
Hopefully this clears it up for some potential buyers haha.
Source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
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Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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bradputt said:
Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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I believe it's the moto X 2014 which is also 10mm thick by the way.
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I really hate that size and in this case the thin size becomes a point of issue, do not most of us put a case on the thing anyway?
So if they had managed to make it 3.8 evenly, it would be back up there once the case was on it, so to me it doesn't matter.
I think 10.1mm thick still can acceptable.
I prefer it was 12 or 14mm thick, but 10mm is acceptable.
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Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus. Not even as big as a Galaxy Mega.
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I prefer it was 12 or 14mm thick, but 10mm is acceptable.
You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus. Not even as big as a Galaxy Mega.
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It's actually slightly larger than the iPhone 6+. It's smaller than the Galaxy Mega and the Nokia 1520, though.
By the time Note 4 owners add a Qi charging back cover they will be holding a 10mm thick brick. Even worse are the ZeroLemon battery nazis that will be holding 1999 Nextel bricks. Also worse than a 10mm device that tapers off to the edges that already has Qi built in.
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You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus.
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No it's actually quite a bit wider than the iPhone 6+, which will effect how it feels to hold a lot. See: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
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Bjray said:
Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.1mm at it's thickest point. The sides are 3.8mm
So it's 3.8 to 10.1mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
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You really should make it clear in your OP that the photo is of the Moto X (a much smaller phone) not the Nexus 6. It makes the phone appear much smaller in the person's hand than the Nexus 6 will be.
The tapered edges, I think, help with the hand feel of a smaller phone like the Moto X or OnePlus One. But on an enormous phone like the Nexus 6, it's not going to help you wrap your hands around the overall width of the phone. And as far as putting the phone in your pocket goes, it's the dimension at the thickest point that counts. The tapered edges won't help with that at all.
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No it's actually quite a bit wider than the iPhone 6+, which will effect how it feels to hold a lot. See: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
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You really should make it clear in your OP that the photo is of the Moto X (a much smaller phone) not the Nexus 6. It makes the phone appear much smaller in the person's hand than the Nexus 6 will be.
The tapered edges, I think, help with the hand feel of a smaller phone like the Moto X or OnePlus One. But on an enormous phone like the Nexus 6, it's not going to help you wrap your hands around the overall width of the phone. And as far as putting the phone in your pocket goes, it's the dimension at the thickest point that counts. The tapered edges won't help with that at all.
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It's just a reference showing the exact same degree of the the curve that the N6 also has. Didn't think anyone would mistake it for the N6.
And yes it could help with wielding the overall width of the device, pick up a Note 4 and it feels like a brick, add a slight curve to it and it'll fit more naturally in your hand (look at your fingers when holding one, they curve anyway).
Found some better pictures (it's an actual Nexus 6 this time! )
And BTW most devices are around 10mm also at some section, look at the Note 4's camera sticking out. The N6 is flush.
I don't mind the thickness, the height but I do mind the width.
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And yes it could help with wielding the overall width of the device, pick up a Note 4 and it feels like a brick, add a slight curve to it and it'll fit more naturally in your hand.
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As I said, for something as extremely large as the Nexus 6, I just don't think the taper is going to make that much of a difference. In reviews of the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One, with tapered edges, reviewers are pretty clear that the taper helps, but is not as good as a device that is simply overall thinner. And those are smaller phones. It's a mistake to assume that tapers are equally effective in all cases. For the Nexus 6, it's just a super wide phone, compared to other phablets. It's going to be a lot to wrap your hand around, anyway you cut it.
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Found some better pictures (it's an actual Nexus 6 this time! )
And BTW most devices are around 10mm also at some section, look at the Note 4's camera sticking out. The N6 is flush.
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I don't think the Note 4 is a good phone to compare to the Nexus 6 for thinness. It's only 1.5 mm thinner. The iPhone 6+ is a better point of comparison. It's 3 mm thinner--making the Nexus 6 40% thicker.
Also people should keep in mind that the 3.8 mm dimension at the edge is only exactly at the edge. Even a couple mm before the edge, the phone is significantly thicker. In the photos you provide it's pretty easy to see that the taper is very slight until you get pretty close to the side of the Nexus 6. Actually, those photos make the taper on the Nexus 6 seem much less than on the 2nd Gen Moto X (but maybe it's just the photos).
What's more, none of this responds to my point that when the phone is in your pocket (if you can get it in there) the tapers aren't going to make any difference. In your pocket it's only the thickest point that's going to matter. So the already potentially marginal benefits of the taper, should not be overstated and overgeneralized.
As I've been saying in another thread, I just don't see the point in pretending the Nexus 6 is not a very large phone that is going to feel pretty beefy in the hand and be hard to get into any kind of pocket. It's a great phone. Many people like the size. But for those who are concerned about the size and who aren't into huge phones, they have reason to be concerned.
That aside, where did you find those photos?
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(1) I don't think the Note 4 is a good phone to compare to the Nexus 6 for thinness. It's only 1.5 mm thinner. The iPhone 6+ is a better point of comparison. It's 3 mm thinner--making the Nexus 6 40% thicker.
(2) What's more, none of this responds to my point that when the phone is in your pocket (if you can get it in there) the tapers aren't going to make any difference. In your pocket it's only the thickest point that's going to matter. So the already potentially marginal benefits of the taper, should not be overstated and overgeneralized.
(3) That aside, where did you find those photos?
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1: That's the only photo showing the top and bottom of the N6. Also why even compare it to a iPhone? We're talking about an Android enthusiast device after all. The Note 4 is the closest apples to apples comparison.
2: If you can pocket a Note device, you pocket a Nexus 6. Simple as that. Your not going to feel or see a 1.6mm difference....
3: The source is posted in the OP.
I understand where your coming from, but I think you've got tapered edges and fully curved backs confused.
Tapered edges = Just a taper on the edges of the body. The iPhone 6 and Note 4 have these, but not curved backs.
Curved back = The whole back cover is curved with the middle being thicker by design so your fingers rest / grip on it. The HTC One M8 is 9.4mm thick but it doesn't feel like it at all because it's curved back is creating an illusion.
There is quite a difference between the two. The only con (with fully curved) is a thicker device down the middle BUT it does feel like a smaller device because creating an illusion that it's smaller.
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1: That's the only photo showing the top and bottom of the N6. Also why even compare it to a iPhone? We're talking about an Android enthusiast device after all. The Note 4 is the closest apples to apples comparison.
2: If you can pocket a Note device, you pocket a Nexus 6. Simple as that. Your not going to feel or see a 1.6mm difference....
3: The source is posted in the OP.
I understand where your coming from, but I think you've got tapered edges and fully curved backs confused.
Tapered edges = Just a taper on the edges of the body. The iPhone 6 and Note 4 have these, but not curved backs.
Curved back = The whole back cover is curved with the middle being thicker by design so your fingers rest / grip on it. The HTC One M8 is 9.4mm thick but it doesn't feel like it at all because it's curved back is creating an illusion.
There is quite a difference between the two. The only con (with fully curved) is a thicker device down the middle BUT it does feel like a smaller device because creating an illusion that it's smaller.
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We're taking about hardware. It's irrelevant what OS the phone runs. The iPhone 6+ shows us what a thin large phablet can be like. Are you saying only Apple is capable of making a phone that thin? My point was that comparing the thickness of the Nexus 6 to the Note 4 to make it seem not so thick is not a good point of comparison, because the iPhone 6+ shows us how much thinner a phone of this size can be. A similar photo of the Nexus 6 and the iPhone 6+ stacked on top of each other would make the Nexus 6 seem like the beefy phone that it is.
I think a lot of people would question whether you can pocket a Note device. And it is absurd to say that if you can pocket a Note then you can pocket the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is half a centimeter wider than the Note 4, almost half a centimeter taller, and thicker. They are in no way equivalent in size. Look at the two phones in PhoneArena's size comparison tool: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...exus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4/phones/8626,8577 Any reasonable person looking at that can see that the Nexus 6 is a significantly larger phone than the Note 4.
When I said tapered edges, I meant it in the sense that you're using "curved back," so you're positing a difference that isn't one. The truth is almost all of the thinness of the Nexus 6 is very close to the edge. The curve of the back from the middle does make it much thinner for most of the back.
You're right that curved backs can make phones nice to hold, when they are a reasonable size like the 1st Gen Moto X, with a 4.7" screen. That phone was praised higly by most reviewers for how great it felt to hold. But the same reviewers all have found larger devices with similar designs, like the 2nd Gen Moto X and the OnePlus One, to not be nearly as nice to hold. They grant that the taper/curve mitigates some of the size of the phone, but do not say it magically makes it feel like a smaller phone. There's a difference between mitigating the effects of the size and simply being a smaller phone. And the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One are nowhere near as big as the Nexus 6. The taper/curve design simply has diminishing returns as the device gets bigger. At some point it's just wide and hard to get your hand around.
Would you assert that Nexus 7 tablet (more than twice as wide as the Nexus 6), if it had the same curved back design, would be fine to hold in one hand, because of the curve? Obviously that would be an absurd position to take. Overall deminsions matter. The Nexus 6 is not going to fit comfortably in most people's hands, unless your an NBA player. Get over it. It's a huge device. If you like that fine. But insisting that it will fit well in the hand (or pocket) is silly. It's going to be a challenge for the vast majority of people.
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We're taking about hardware. It's irrelevant what OS the phone runs. The iPhone 6+ shows us what a thin large phablet can be like. Are you saying only Apple is capable of making a phone that thin? My point was that comparing the thickness of the Nexus 6 to the Note 4 to make it seem not so thick is not a good point of comparison, because the iPhone 6+ shows us how much thinner a phone of this size can be. A similar photo of the Nexus 6 and the iPhone 6+ stacked on top of each other would make the Nexus 6 seem like the beefy phone that it is.
I think a lot of people would question whether you can pocket a Note device. And it is absurd to say that if you can pocket a Note then you can pocket the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is half a centimeter wider than the Note 4, almost half a centimeter taller, and thicker. They are in no way equivalent in size. Look at the two phones in PhoneArena's size comparison tool: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...exus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4/phones/8626,8577 Any reasonable person looking at that can see that the Nexus 6 is a significantly larger phone than the Note 4.
When I said tapered edges, I meant it in the sense that you're using "curved back," so you're positing a difference that isn't one. The truth is almost all of the thinness of the Nexus 6 is very close to the edge. The curve of the back from the middle does make it much thinner for most of the back.
You're right that curved backs can make phones nice to hold, when they are a reasonable size like the 1st Gen Moto X, with a 4.7" screen. That phone was praised higly by most reviewers for how great it felt to hold. But the same reviewers all have found larger devices with similar designs, like the 2nd Gen Moto X and the OnePlus One, to not be nearly as nice to hold. They grant that the taper/curve mitigates some of the size of the phone, but do not say it magically makes it feel like a smaller phone. There's a difference between mitigating the effects of the size and simply being a smaller phone. And the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One are nowhere near as big as the Nexus 6. The taper/curve design simply has diminishing returns as the device gets bigger. At some point it's just wide and hard to get your hand around.
Would you assert that Nexus 7 tablet (more than twice as wide as the Nexus 6), if it had the same curved back design, would be fine to hold in one hand, because of the curve? Obviously that would be an absurd position to take. Overall deminsions matter. The Nexus 6 is not going to fit comfortably in most people's hands, unless your an NBA player. Get over it. It's a huge device. If you like that fine. But insisting that it will fit well in the hand (or pocket) is silly. It's going to be a challenge for the vast majority of people.
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I was just saying sure we could compare it to an iPhone 6+ but is it really fair? Sure it will show how beefy the N6 is in the middle but can you really say the iP6+ and N6 have the same capability's regardless of the OS. That's why I'm saying it's kind of a useless comparison IMHO.
And we're talking about the thickness of the device are we not? You made it seem like the extra 1.6mm thickness alone would make a "absurd" footprint for a pocket.
Also I wasn't trying to get the point across that the N6 will feel smaller because of a curved back. Rather it would make it simply easier hold to which is better than nothing at all. (you don't think a curved back would make it worse, now do you?)
Also the OnePlus One doesn't really even have a curved back the LG G3 is much better (and reviewers say so) but the Moto X, One M8 and N6 are still at the extremes according to the degree of the the curve. Just something to think about when referencing that 5.5"+ devices with a curve is not as effective (which it isn't, but it also isn't useless).
And no the N7 with a truly curved back would not be a good idea, since your hands already have a hard time fully wrapping your hands around it. So tapered edges are the superior choice beyond that point.
And you seem to not have any experience with a Note or any phablet device for the matter. Therefor it's probably hard for you to comprehend that size in your pocket without experiencing it first hand. Heck, my mom (not a NBA player) has a Mega with an 6.3" screen and we can still hold the device OK and pocket it fine.
People have different width and overall phone footprint tolerances. What seems like it needs "NBA player-sized" hands to you, is easy and comfortable for a lot of users. Get over it.
Anyway, this is getting nowhere since we don't have the device yet. Not even reviews either. Let's just wait for those before passing judgment.
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I was just saying sure we could compare it to an iPhone 6+ but is it really fair? Sure it will show how beefy the N6 is in the middle but can you really say the iP6+ and N6 have the same capability's regardless of the OS. That's why I'm saying it's kind of a useless comparison IMHO.
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Again, we're talking about comparing physical designs and what is possible with them. The OS is irrelevant. By your logic, even your comparison between the Note 4 and the Nexus 6 is "useless" since one has a skinned version of Android and the other stock Android. It's not the same interface skin so how can we possibly compare the hardware? Your position makes no sense.
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And we're talking about the thickness of the device are we not? You made it seem like the extra 1.6mm thickness alone would make a "absurd" footprint for a pocket.
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The Nexus 6 is 40% thicker (3mm thicker) than the iPhone 6+. I was arguing that is a good way to get an idea of how beefy the Nexus 6 is. The Note 4 is 1.5 mm thinner than the Nexus 6 (I don't know where your 1.6 mm number comes from). I was simply arguing that if someone already finds the Note 4 not to be readily pocketable (as many people do) then the Nexus 6 is going to be worse, because it is thicker. I can't imagine how any reasonable person could argue otherwise.
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Also I wasn't trying to get the point across that the N6 will feel smaller because of a curved back. Rather it would make it simply easier hold to which is better than nothing at all.
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Yes, I understand you were saying the curved back makes it easier to hold. My point is: 1) A curved back makes a phone easier to hold than if it does not have a curved back. It does not making it easier to hold than a phone that is simply smaller. 2) There is a point at which a phone is so wide that it really is irrelevant whether the back is curved or not. Some things can't be mitigated by design. The Nexus 6 is huge. I think the curved back will not be nearly as beneficial as with smaller phones like the LG G3, let alone the even smaller 1st Gen Moto X. Many many reviewers have made this point. I find it to be true also in my experience with the phones.
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And no the N7 with a truly curved back would not be a good idea, since your hands already have a hard time fully wrapping your hands around it. So tapered edges are the superior choice beyond that point.
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Um, I brought up the N7 example only as an absurd example of how beyond a certain size you can't hold something comfortably in one hand, let alone even wrap a single had around the device, so the a curve in the back would not matter. I'm surprised you're taking the point literally. Maybe I should have used a current generation iMac (which have similar curved backs) as an example, perhaps then it would have been obvious that the curve of the back does not make the device easily held in the palm of one's hand.The point is that as the device gets larger, the curve of a back offers diminishing returns for holdling it in a single hand. I think the benefits with the Nexus 6 will be minimal, since they already don't help that nearly as muchy with the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One, as with the smaller 1st Gen Moto X.
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And you seem to not have any experience with a Note or any phablet device for the matter. Therefor it's probably hard for you to comprehend that size in your pocket without experiencing it first hand. Heck, my mom (not a NBA player) has a Mega with an 6.3" screen and we can still hold the device OK and pocket it fine.
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Your Mom must have big pockets, since most people find even the smaller Note devices not to be very pocketable. Anyway, I have experience with all of these phones. I was only pointing to the comments of reviewers to make it clear that few people with a lot of experience with phones share your opinion about the curved back on very large devices and the pocketability of a very large device like the Nexus 6.
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People have different width and overall phone footprint tolerances. What seems like it needs "NBA player-sized" hands to you, is easy and comfortable for a lot of users.
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Only 14% of the smartphone market worldwide is phablets. The vast majority of people do not like these large devices and find them cumbersome to use. Yes, there are many people that like them. I have acknowledged that all along. For those people, the Nexus 6 is a great device.
But your argument seems to be that anyone who doesn't like the size of the Nexus 6 is wrong and should like it, because you will dictate to them that the size is fine and there is no grounds for any objection. That's just ridiculous. My argument is that people have different prefences about size. Some people like phablets. More people don't like them. But there is no reason to pretend that the Nexus 6 is not huge and try to convince people who don't like phablets that the Nexus 6 is not that big. It's huge (and it's thick for such a big device) and that's the truth. People just have to decide whether they are okay with that or not.
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A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
It jokes about the "optimal" iphone 3.5 incher.
YES. People like Galaxy Note.
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This is so true. At first i thought "damit is that thing big, i should bring it back to store" but when i put it in my pocket it fits and i can walk run and jump with the note in my pocket. So for me its the best phone ever until now iv'e ever had. I love the scree size, if i compare it to the holy iphone i have to laugh everytime about the size..... Its so cute this little iphone thing. I could give it to childrens who can play with it in a sandbox.
Exactly. Those "tech bloggers" should be making fun of people trying to use their "revolutionary" smartphone's functions on a tiny, heavy and fragile 3.5 incher instead...
I hardly ever played any games on my EVO but thats all I do on my Note!!
It simply kicks ass!! Fun times!!
All the reviewers are Jabronis.....perfect size the note is ....especially if you have big hands like me ....cant stand anything else will never go back.....
On-screen controls in games always felt wrong on those small 3.5" phones.. on the S2 they felt better.. on the note they make sense..
sure smaller is sometimes better.. but when packing all this power into a device biggish is good
5.3" aint that big either, just a tad bigger then my wallet but alot thinner.
i followed some links in that blogg and came onto another planet where i was told the android UI makes us need larger screens cos else we wouldn't see anything if android got higher res.. font-size? bigger icons? felt like easy fixes...
kinda feels like iphonE lovers just digs deeper and deeper into something to hold on to.. to make them feel "i did the right choice, my phone is the best"
sad truth is my sister loves the Note but felt she couldn't buy it cos its to big.. she would feel looked at and laughed at.. so she settled with the S2.
i often tell ppl if they are not into computers, etc when they ask if they should buy an iphone or Note to buy an iphone, the safe no-one will laugh at your choice and no-one will question why. its kinda like putting on pants, no one will ask you why.
sorry for the rant..
Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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people want larger screens
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... or people want a stylus and Apple may have to eat SJ's words if they want to catch up.
Apparently a lot of Asian markets like the Note because it's easier to input characters than a keyboard based interface.
Personally, any larger form factor and it would be difficult to fit in my jeans pocket.
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Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
i remember a point when I said 5" is the most any phone should go to. well, now I do believe the limit is 6" since anything bigger than that is a tablet fully at that point.
man i want a 6" phone or a SAMOLED+ HD tablet with telephony
I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I can tottaly relate, I bought it blindly like you :-D
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I also almost regret my Note but after 2 days ... I was just hooked
I think, it's not like people want large screen, it's just it fit some people needs (like watching movies, browsing etc)
Yeah there's still more room in my pocket for something bigger.
But not my jean pockets lol. I don't know how you guys can put this phone in your jean pockets. And I want a full usb port or 2 on it. The more things it can do like a netbook, the better.
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A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
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This is more a rant than an article.
The note does not confirm that "people want larger screens". What it confirms is that some people want larger screens.
The claim that "Android phones go for the larger screen" is also not correct. There are many Android phone manufacturers and many models, of all shapes and sizes. Search using gsmarena finds 185 Android models with sceeen of size 3.2" or smaller.
I've got the largest hands in the whole town so the NOTE feels average to me.
Sometimes I even think, maybe this should be a little larger like 5.5inches. But now I've equipped the NOTE with the TPU case. Its quite protective, has a very grippy sides and it has a KICKSTAND!!!
But with the case on, I have some trouble slipping it into some pockets (jeans mainly).
So after pondering a bit, I think Samsung should make the NOTE with a kickstand, and shave off the bezel from the top and bottom portions.
OR
Make it smaller (from 147 x 83mm; 5.3inch) to 145mm x 79mm (shorter, little less wide, 5.1inch). It needs to shave off some of the bezel, for the premium aspects.
Though my biggest problems is that:
-Back and Menu buttons should be physical (its too damn easy to accidentally press them; frustrating when you accidentally exit an App and have to start from scratch)
-They should position the volume rocker on the right side and make it clickier (like the Nexus S)
-They should position the power button on the top and make it larger and clikier (like the Nexus S)
-Trade the position of Back and Menu button; and hitting the Menu button should bring the contexual menu's on the bottom and the search bar on the top.
If Samsung hired me for a prototype, my device would outsell any competitors!
I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
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I think the idea of 6 inches with the same form factor is great all they would then need to do is increase the resolution as the pixel density will not compete with the likes of Sony Arc S or some of the other 4-4.5 HD screens.
If they did both of these and then made even better stylus apps and support. Then I think it would be game over even for some of the tablet market.
One a separate NOTE, does anyone know if the Note2 is confirmed?
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---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
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I had a kickstand on my HD7. Thought it was nice - at first. Later on...i never even used it. Phone would just fall down, and it was impossible to use it with any cable connected ( earphones ) cause it would - again - fall.
I like the idea of a kickstand, but i think it might be a bit hard to make it stable enough on such a large phone.
Looking at the best buy page and unboxing video that have leaked, it seems like it is a much more landscape-oriented device. The Nexus logo is meant to be read in landscape, and the speakers are placed to be left and right speakers in Landscape mode. Looks much better as a video viewing device. Both the front and rear facing cameras are on a corner, rather than centered, so it looks like regardless of orientation, won't be blocked by the users hands (as someone who hated when Skype went landscape-only on the original N7, a welcome change) and it seems to have a notification light, positioned not for landscape, but portrait - the mode you'll most likely use it in for social networking apps such as Facebook.
I loved my original N7 but not the hardware layout. Seemed pretty crappy. This new one seems to change that. Any opinions?
If this means the OS is going to become more landscape oriented that's cool I guess. Otherwise meh
Just from the looks of it, I was actually wondering if the back would be as secure as the v1 dimpled back
Doesn't wow me to warrant a upgrade..
But planning to get the next nexus for my old man, his phone is more than 4 years old..
Beamed from my Maguro.
I like it a lot. It's a clean and very understated device. The top/bottom bezels are a little large and I wish they'd embedded front-facing speakers into them, but I think it'll be fine in practice.
I still think its a portrait device....even with everything google did to make it landscape (demo'd in landscape, "nexus" in landscape)
the back is really nice...very grippy
its narrower by quite a bit which makes it easier to hole
top/bottom bezels are a little too big IMO, but i assume they are like that because of the speakers, LED, and camera...so I'm OK with that.
the device flies, the screen is fantastic, the speakers are better than previous gen, camera is meh. I'm just in awe with this thing right now. and build quality seems to have imporved greatly...its awesome looking/feeling.
Can you make Phone calls with the nexus 7 LTE?
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not with a stock phone dialer, but yes you can make phone calls.i love the new design, its way lighter, thinner, skinnier, sleeker. it is beautiful and feels great in the palm of my hands. the back feels great and sits nice in one hand or two. so glad i sold my old n7 last week awaiting the release of this one. worked out great
If you use tablet talk you can make calls
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top/bottom bezels are a little too big IMO, but i assume they are like that because of the speakers, LED, and camera...so I'm OK with that.
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The top/bottom bezels are a little large and I wish they'd embedded front-facing speakers into them, but I think it'll be fine in practice.
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I agree the top/bottom bezels look large, but actually they are exactly the same size relative the screen that they were on original Nexus 7. The only difference on the new one is the side bezels are smaller, making the device narrower overall and having a higher aspect ratio. The screen size and height are identical to first one (actually like 1% bigger).
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I agree the top/bottom bezels look large, but actually they are exactly the same size relative the screen that they were on original Nexus 7. The only difference on the new one is the side bezels are smaller, making the device narrower overall and having a higher aspect ratio. The screen size and height are identical to first one (actually like 1% bigger).
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I'm well aware-- it's not new news. But the thing is that as the device shrinks, previously "normal" components are easily capable of becoming "large". It's like saying that having the wheels from a real car on a toy model are the same size-- it doesn't preclude them from being "large." But it's definitely not enough of an issue to keep me from looking forward to my preorder coming in now.
The edge isn't quite flush on the screen, that bothered Me. It being more narrow sucks too, the buttons are more flush but harder to press. The back is nice and slick, they should have sent aluminum, the placement of front camera sucks! Screen is beautiful,
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The edge isn't quite flush on the screen, that bothered Me. It being more narrow sucks too, the buttons are more flush but harder to press. The back is nice and slick, they should have sent aluminum, the placement of front camera sucks! Screen is beautiful,
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That would have increased the cost making it more expensive.
There are lot of subtle improvements over the older nexus that I'm really liking. The top one for me is that the width has slimmed down just enough for me to get a firm / non tiring grip of the on the short side. This makes for much easier one handed reading. Also like the lighter and thinner design. Dual speakers is much improved over the original where at times I could barely hear anything even with full volume. The only thing that is not so evident to me is the higher resolution screen. I really haven't found the right app to make the new screen shine. Of course everything is sharp due to the higher dpi.
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The top one for me is that the width has slimmed down just enough for me to get a firm / non tiring grip of the on the short side.
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I've never held or even seen a first gen Nexus 7, but I agree this one is just small enough to hold one handed. If I had smaller hands it might be a problem though. Still, it's perfect like this for me, and it's funny since so many people freaked out about the narrower side bezel being "ugly." Function > fashion. :laugh:
Curious what people favor if they had the choice:
5X = convenient size with mid-range specs, plastic build, against a competitive price
6X = phablet with mid-range specs, plastic build, against a competitive price
5P = convenient size with premium specs and build, against a slightly higher price point
6P = phablet with premium specs and build, against a slightly higher price point
6p....
I really don't know since I haven't tried a "phablet" yet. But I buy nothing but Nexus. After just crying about an N5 refresh for a year, the 6p/5x launch made it difficult to not try a phablet. I probably can't answer this question until I try the 6p for a month or two. I completely skipped the 6 due to starting price and ridiculous size.
If they would have just launched your proposed array of devices instead of what they did, I probably would have went with the 5p as my knee jerk reaction.
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Right now I would say 6p, but I voted for 5p because I know I would have wanted the slightly smaller size. But I think once you use the phablet size, it's hard to go back to smaller screen. It just feels inadequate.
To me, with the much slimmer profile (width), the 6P doesn't come across as a "phablet". My wife has a Lumia 1320 and I liked everything about it except it's width (and the extreme lack of apps, of course). I've had to make little adjustment from my trusty N5 that I had for nearly 2 years. My only complaint about the phone is how incredibly slippery it is (I have the aluminum model). I bought it because of it's looks, but it's nearly unusable without a case, IMHO. If I hold on to it tightly to "feel" like I'm not going to let it slip out of my hands, I keep hitting a button that wakes it up or shuts it off (btw, I have normal sized hands for a 6'1" tall person so it isn't a small hands thing). I have a case on order so that issue will hopefully be resolved soon. Very pleased over all so far.
Yeah, I think it was a huge mistake not to simply make two premium phones, with different screen sizes. A 5P I think would easily outsell the 6P, just as most iPhone users prefer the iPhone 6 over the 6+. Even many reviews of the 5X say the price difference for the base 6P makes it hardly worth getting the 5X, unless you just can't swing it (and when you think about the thousands people spend on phone plans, it makes the price difference even more minimal). I really wish there were a 5P, with the Huawei design, but a 5.2" screen.
Perhaps, in part, Google didn't want to completely put themselves in the hands of Huawei.
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Yeah, I think it was a huge mistake not to simply make two premium phones, with different screen sizes. A 5P I think would easily outsell the 6P, just as most iPhone users prefer the iPhone 6 over the 6+. Even many reviews of the 5X say the price difference for the base 6P makes it hardly worth getting the 5X, unless you just can't swing it (and when you think about the thousands people spend on phone plans, it makes the price difference even more minimal). I really wish there were a 5P, with the Huawei design, but a 5.2" screen.
Perhaps, in part, Google didn't want to completely put themselves in the hands of Huawei.
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Yep, lots of people want a top of the line phone that aint phablet sized. Personally I've tried a number of phablets and never warmed up to them and I don't honestly expect to be happy with this phones size either. It is however a Nexus device and I've owned all but one of them. If there had been a 5P I order it and never look back. As it is I'm sure I'll move on as soon as an 820 5ish inch flagship device hits. No insult intended to the gents that love their phablets, you're welcome to em, just let me have a flagship in a smaller form factor and we're all good.
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Yep, lots of people want a top of the line phone that aint phablet sized. Personally I've tried a number of phablets and never warmed up to them and I don't honestly expect to be happy with this phones size either. It is however a Nexus device and I've owned all but one of them. If there had been a 5P I order it and never look back. As it is I'm sure I'll move on as soon as an 820 5ish inch flagship device hits. No insult intended to the gents that love their phablets, you're welcome to em, just let me have a flagship in a smaller form factor and we're all good.
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Yeah, I've always had Nexus phones, so I guess I'll try the 6P as my first venture into the phablet world. But I'm not that excited about it.
What's really perplexing is why they didn't stick with Motorola. I thought the Moto X/Nexus 6 design was a great design, except for the size. And of course the Moto X 2014 was a 5" phone. It was totally disappointing when the Nexus 6 came out and it was a supersized version of an otherwise great design. Why not just have Motorola do a 5.2 in version of the current Moto X design. That would be great (and it would even have the four microphone noise cancellation, that has been the best in a Nexus phone since the Nexus One with the Audience chip--I'm already hearing suspect things about the 6P which presumable using Qualcomm's medicore Fluence noise cancellation). Anyway, I think Motorola has a good design. They're also good at nice lower cost phones (which I wouldn't say about LG). A 5.2" Nexus X from Motorola would be nice than the 5X, I think. And it's weird that Motorola is the only Nexus manufacturer that didn't get to do two devices. LG does not seem so great to me that they needed to get a third shot. (Well, I guess HTC also never got another shot after the Nexus One, even though the One for it's day arguably had the most premium design until the 6P--and lest people forget that was the first unibody aluminum Nexus phone, perhaps even the first unibody aluminum phone period.)
Oh well, maybe next time. Who knows. Google is so changeable and inconsistent with what they do with the Nexus line.
I remember when I would pull out my N1 and people would comment on how huge it was. lol I suppose it doesn't matter in the context of this conversation but I just have to say it... I loved the trackball. I liked pulling the notifications out into 3D space and I liked being able to select tiny links on a web page without having to zoom.
6P
5P would be sweet
OP...you already have the same thread here. Why make another one?
I will have to close this. Please don't repeat threads in multiple sections.
Regards
I'm coming from the note 5 and I was wondering if anyone felt like the original is a little on the small side after having it for a few days? I went in store and compared them and the actual screen is basically the same if not longer than my note 5 just not as wide. My S8 arrives today and I'm trying not to have buyers remorse already without using it lol. My other option is to go with the +
any early thought?
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I'm coming from the note 5 and I was wondering if anyone felt like the original is a little on the small side after having it for a few days? I went in store and compared them and the actual screen is basically the same if not longer than my note 5 just not as wide. My S8 arrives today and I'm trying not to have buyers remorse already without using it lol. My other option is to go with the +
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I did not own the note 5 but have owned a few phablets in the past...some in the note series and most recently the lg v10 before i switched to the S8 regular. If you are going for a phablet sized screen you will regret getting the S8. If you are asking if the screen is adequate for daily use as a phone, the answer is yes. The regular one is comfortable in hand and the screen does not feel small. That being said, you need to ask yourself what you're going for. If you are that unsure, go into any phone store and just hold the demo unit. Again, coming from the Lg v10, i dont miss the screen size and am very happy with the S8.
I upgraded from the note 5 and yes width wise it is smaller and the first day it really bugged me still does a little but i am getting use to it. But for me it much easier to hold.
coming from a note 4, i don't miss the big screen at all.
the extra comfort of the slim device more than makes up for the slightly smaller screen surface, and when playing games in landscape orientation the screen looks huge compared to the larger notes.
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I'm coming from the note 5 and I was wondering if anyone felt like the original is a little on the small side after having it for a few days? I went in store and compared them and the actual screen is basically the same if not longer than my note 5 just not as wide. My S8 arrives today and I'm trying not to have buyers remorse already without using it lol. My other option is to go with the +
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I had the note 5 for over a year and the S8 and S8+ just seem smaller to me. Not a big fan of the new aspect ratio or the screen sizes they advertise that don't really compare to 99% of the other phones on the market.
The s8 plus screen is a hair thinner but way taller. Easier to hold. But typing this, I have accidentally hit the back side key 3 times already. Booop
The tall and skinny was a little hard to get used to. Had 2 Note 7's before the recall and kind of got used to the new size. My daily driver before getting the S8 Plus was a Nexus 6 and it seems a lot larger even though the screen size is 5.9" opposed to 6.2".
I have the plus and my friend has the regular. I'm coming from my note 5 and just to adapted this. It just feels normal like my Note 7 did. Trust me, your going to be happy with the plus. The regular is to small imo.
I also came from the note 5 and still happen to have it. Side by side the note 5 seems clunky now after using the 8+ for a few days. Screen wise (the lit part per my calipers), the 8+ is 1mm narrower and 16mm longer. I think because it's bezeless on the sides, it makes the screen seem smaller/narrower than it really is.
after only hours with the reg s8 i think im going to send it back and get the + lol
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coming from a note 4, i don't miss the big screen at all.
the extra comfort of the slim device more than makes up for the slightly smaller screen surface, and when playing games in landscape orientation the screen looks huge compared to the larger notes.
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The tall and skinny was a little hard to get used to. Had 2 Note 7's before the recall and kind of got used to the new size. My daily driver before getting the S8 Plus was a Nexus 6 and it seems a lot larger even though the screen size is 5.9" opposed to 6.2".
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I also came from the note 5 and still happen to have it. Side by side the note 5 seems clunky now after using the 8+ for a few days. Screen wise (the lit part per my calipers), the 8+ is 1mm narrower and 16mm longer. I think because it's bezeless on the sides, it makes the screen seem smaller/narrower than it really is.
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so you are all happy with the plus now? about to tell my rep to ship me it
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so you are all happy with the plus now? about to tell my rep to ship me it
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I'm completely happy with mine, nothing out there now that compares - especially iPhoneies.
I've never liked cases, but after coming from a naked Note 4, with the S8 having a case on it makes it more comfortable. I think even the + with a slim case would have a good feel to it (and have a bit of remorse about not going with the +)
S8Plus is very cool! Enjoy
Good grief. It's got Pixel sized bezels!
The good old Galaxy Note 3 was so far ahead of its time when it came to minimal bezels.
Galaxy finally has small bezels again but no root for US phones. Or LOS/AOSP ROM's.
OnePlus 5 had a chance to swoop in but dammit if the bezels and phone with its 5.5" screen are still bigger than the old Note 3 with it's 5.7" screen.
I really don't like this bezelless trend. I've played with the G6, S8 and owned the note 2-5.
Screens are delicate enough, and good tempered glass has only become harder to find since this curved screen craze has shown up. We don't need any help with making our phones any more delicate, thanks.
Not trying to flame you in anyway, I just honestly think we do not need bezelless displays.
Bezel-less is a gimmick. Looks good from a design aspect but the functionality isn't 100% there since black bars when watching Videos/VR Apps/OS have to be made to work
Also 1+ tries to keep the cost of their devices to a minimum and in a video they did mention they'd use a bezelless display but currently wasn't in a position to do it
In future we will all have them folding phones, but till then phones should retain a minimum amount of bezel, because its more functional that way, phones like S8 are a disaster. Those who actually use it know it. At the same time the size of bezel on the Pixel is an abomination.
I don't know why OP created the OnePlus topic though, liked their first attempt, second one was cooler, third one was the best from them and now this one is simply pathetic. Not that I buy these sort of phones (brand I mean here) but still, not everyone is gonna, or should land a U11 or a Pixel anyway.
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In future we will all have them folding phones, but till then phones should retain a minimum amount of bezel, because its more functional that way, phones like S8 are a disaster. Those who actually use it know it. At the same time the size of bezel on the Pixel is an abomination.
I don't know why OP created the OnePlus topic though, liked their first attempt, second one was cooler, third one was the best from them and now this one is simply pathetic. Not that I buy these sort of phones (brand I mean here) but still, not everyone is gonna, or should land a U11 or a Pixel anyway.
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I use the S8+ and it is far from a disaster for my usage. That's just my opinion though.
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I really don't like this bezelless trend. I've played with the G6, S8 and owned the note 2-5.
Screens are delicate enough, and good tempered glass has only become harder to find since this curved screen craze has shown up. We don't need any help with making our phones any more delicate, thanks.
Not trying to flame you in anyway, I just honestly think we do not need bezelless displays.
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I completely agree.
I have larger hands than most and need some surface area other than the screen to hold on to.
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I completely agree.
I have larger hands than most and need some surface area other than the screen to hold on to.
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Same, I'm 2 meters tall with hands just as freakishly large, while I am no advocate for Xperia size bezels *Twitches* or pixel xl sized bezels *Shudders* I would much rather see some front firing speakers than this bezeless craze continue.
I just generally upset with where phones are going right now... I felt like last year we got so many awesome upgrades,
The Moto Z play keeping it conssitent with amazing battery life and a success at modularity.
The Honor 8 bringing dual cams in. (Even though this was not the first android phone to do this, I think the honr 8 was the first one that picked up a lot of steam.)
The S7 (I can't believe I said this, I dislike samsung, but I have to get them their credit) but water resistance, wireless charging, good camera, micro sd all in one package!
The Axon 7 filling in the gap for htc with their identity crisis, bringing the best front firing speakers with the same processor and screen resolution as flagships of that year..
The Pixel (Price way too high, I know..) but it's Google's Foray to inject their product to more people.
LG, with... Hah, wait, no they still ate it in 2016.
Then processors for 2016, I felt there was such a huge jump from the 810 to the 820. With performance and heat.. To me it seemed like manufacturers were trying to improve the usability of their phones, with this year, we are killing headphone jacks and trying to get bezelless phones that are wafer thin. I would much rather have a phone with a larger battery or more room for heat dispersion than a phone that would break if I accidentally sat on it wrong.
I'm not trying to discredit anyone's desires here, I just feel like focusing on bezels is so... Secondary.. It's aesthetics, I thought we should just leave that for Samsung and Apple to chase, (And LG to pretend they can catch up)
Smaller bezels = smaller phone. I want the smallest phone possible with a LARGE screen.
That Note 3 was just damned perfect.
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Smaller bezels = smaller phone. I want the smallest phone possible with a LARGE screen.
That Note 3 was just damned perfect.
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I agree. Not sure Samsung's goal was specifically for a bezeless phone, but more likely to put the biggest screen possible on the smallest chassis they could build. In that respect, I love the trend. I'm not fond of cutting the screen a la the essential phone to decrease phone size
I'd be happy with a phone the same size as the Pixel with the same bezels. Better battery, SD card slot, waterproof, good camera, and unlockable bootloader.
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I'd be happy with a phone the same size as the Pixel with the same bezels. Better battery, SD card slot, waterproof, good camera, and unlockable bootloader.
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I know it's probably a lost cause but i am hoping they keep the AUX jack as well.
Besides curved edges and delicate display concerns the thing that bothers me about the bezeless design trend is that the more they reduce the bottom bezel the further down on-screen keyboard becomes. This results in more stress to my hand when swipe typing which is my primary input method on my phone. On the S8 it's not too bad since the phone is narrow and I can reach the lower corners of the keyboard fine when holding one handed but on the S8+ stretch becomes more pronounced and I suspect long stints of texting will be an issue for me.