A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
It jokes about the "optimal" iphone 3.5 incher.
YES. People like Galaxy Note.
Sent from the galaxy far far away.
This is so true. At first i thought "damit is that thing big, i should bring it back to store" but when i put it in my pocket it fits and i can walk run and jump with the note in my pocket. So for me its the best phone ever until now iv'e ever had. I love the scree size, if i compare it to the holy iphone i have to laugh everytime about the size..... Its so cute this little iphone thing. I could give it to childrens who can play with it in a sandbox.
Exactly. Those "tech bloggers" should be making fun of people trying to use their "revolutionary" smartphone's functions on a tiny, heavy and fragile 3.5 incher instead...
I hardly ever played any games on my EVO but thats all I do on my Note!!
It simply kicks ass!! Fun times!!
All the reviewers are Jabronis.....perfect size the note is ....especially if you have big hands like me ....cant stand anything else will never go back.....
On-screen controls in games always felt wrong on those small 3.5" phones.. on the S2 they felt better.. on the note they make sense..
sure smaller is sometimes better.. but when packing all this power into a device biggish is good
5.3" aint that big either, just a tad bigger then my wallet but alot thinner.
i followed some links in that blogg and came onto another planet where i was told the android UI makes us need larger screens cos else we wouldn't see anything if android got higher res.. font-size? bigger icons? felt like easy fixes...
kinda feels like iphonE lovers just digs deeper and deeper into something to hold on to.. to make them feel "i did the right choice, my phone is the best"
sad truth is my sister loves the Note but felt she couldn't buy it cos its to big.. she would feel looked at and laughed at.. so she settled with the S2.
i often tell ppl if they are not into computers, etc when they ask if they should buy an iphone or Note to buy an iphone, the safe no-one will laugh at your choice and no-one will question why. its kinda like putting on pants, no one will ask you why.
sorry for the rant..
Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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... or people want a stylus and Apple may have to eat SJ's words if they want to catch up.
Apparently a lot of Asian markets like the Note because it's easier to input characters than a keyboard based interface.
Personally, any larger form factor and it would be difficult to fit in my jeans pocket.
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Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
i remember a point when I said 5" is the most any phone should go to. well, now I do believe the limit is 6" since anything bigger than that is a tablet fully at that point.
man i want a 6" phone or a SAMOLED+ HD tablet with telephony
I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
Akiainavas said:
I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I can tottaly relate, I bought it blindly like you :-D
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I also almost regret my Note but after 2 days ... I was just hooked
I think, it's not like people want large screen, it's just it fit some people needs (like watching movies, browsing etc)
Yeah there's still more room in my pocket for something bigger.
But not my jean pockets lol. I don't know how you guys can put this phone in your jean pockets. And I want a full usb port or 2 on it. The more things it can do like a netbook, the better.
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A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
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This is more a rant than an article.
The note does not confirm that "people want larger screens". What it confirms is that some people want larger screens.
The claim that "Android phones go for the larger screen" is also not correct. There are many Android phone manufacturers and many models, of all shapes and sizes. Search using gsmarena finds 185 Android models with sceeen of size 3.2" or smaller.
I've got the largest hands in the whole town so the NOTE feels average to me.
Sometimes I even think, maybe this should be a little larger like 5.5inches. But now I've equipped the NOTE with the TPU case. Its quite protective, has a very grippy sides and it has a KICKSTAND!!!
But with the case on, I have some trouble slipping it into some pockets (jeans mainly).
So after pondering a bit, I think Samsung should make the NOTE with a kickstand, and shave off the bezel from the top and bottom portions.
OR
Make it smaller (from 147 x 83mm; 5.3inch) to 145mm x 79mm (shorter, little less wide, 5.1inch). It needs to shave off some of the bezel, for the premium aspects.
Though my biggest problems is that:
-Back and Menu buttons should be physical (its too damn easy to accidentally press them; frustrating when you accidentally exit an App and have to start from scratch)
-They should position the volume rocker on the right side and make it clickier (like the Nexus S)
-They should position the power button on the top and make it larger and clikier (like the Nexus S)
-Trade the position of Back and Menu button; and hitting the Menu button should bring the contexual menu's on the bottom and the search bar on the top.
If Samsung hired me for a prototype, my device would outsell any competitors!
I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
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I think the idea of 6 inches with the same form factor is great all they would then need to do is increase the resolution as the pixel density will not compete with the likes of Sony Arc S or some of the other 4-4.5 HD screens.
If they did both of these and then made even better stylus apps and support. Then I think it would be game over even for some of the tablet market.
One a separate NOTE, does anyone know if the Note2 is confirmed?
Kangal said:
---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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I had a kickstand on my HD7. Thought it was nice - at first. Later on...i never even used it. Phone would just fall down, and it was impossible to use it with any cable connected ( earphones ) cause it would - again - fall.
I like the idea of a kickstand, but i think it might be a bit hard to make it stable enough on such a large phone.
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It seems everyone here, looking forward to their next android device, want something 4" or above.
I would've expected that 4" or above would be for a small percentage, like a niche, and most people would want another 3.7 inch screen.
If there ever is a Nexus 2, or whatever the next Google dev phone, I would prefer it to be the same size as the Nexus One, I think it's the perfect size for a phone.
Anyone with me?
*tumbleweed rolls by*
Just a tad too small for me. If it had a 4" screen it would be easier to surf the web, type emails, read word documents, etc.
I like phones one size and a tablet another. The Nexus is a good size. In the world of Android devices, it's old and it's still the best. Maybe it could use a front facing camera but, who uses those anyway?
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Front facing camera
More internal memory
Faster processer
Same Vanilla goodness
Minor tweaks on a GREAT phone.
I love the form factor. Four inches is too much for me.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
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I love the form factor. Four inches is too much for me.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
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NSFW LOL
I agree, compared with the droid phone this thing is perfect width wise.....man I can see ppl googling me and finding this quote...*sigh*
Yep, i love the size of the Nexus One. Phones like the HTC EVO are just a little too big for my taste.
3.7" is too small.
4" is great and easy to pocket.
4.3" is even better from a usability standpoint, but obviously more difficult to pocket.
When I'm at the gym doing cardio, I place my N1 on the machine so I can watch videos hands-free. But some machines have the back panel just too far so that the 3.7" screen looks tiny. A tablet would be great, but I don't have the money for a phone AND a tablet, let alone the fact that there are no tablets anyway.
A 4.3" screen would be great for this.
I love the N1. Fits in my pocket well. The screen in landscape is great to type on and I'm a big guy with big hands. Typing in portrait mode is a little tight but thats why spell check and prediction are great. I've had a lot of phones and I know there are newer phones with all these great specs and whatnot, but I haven't seen one that has made me want to ditch my N1. Haven't looked back since I bought it in March.
I'm trying to think it's the perfect size, and it is as a phone and a pocketable device.
OTOH I'm thinking about a car mount and want a long gooseneck so it'll be within 2' of my face so I can see Trapster. Want this gooseneck to swivel down beside the console so I don't look like a dork on dates, but there is no such thing as a swivel with gooseneck. This makes me suspicious the screen is too small.
My N1 is the perfect width wise for my hand, pocket, car mount, and her tight azz jeans
Nexus One owner and I also think it is the perfect size. I bought the G2 thinking I was missing out on something, I found out very fast that the Nexus One is IMO the better looking, build quality is top notch and as far as the keyboard is concerned, don't really use it, I use Vlingo for just about everything on both phones. The Nexus One is a phone I just will never give up. No matter what device comes out in the future, will always keep the Nexus One.
PS. If all the app developers would allow their apps to be moved to the memory card the only down side to the Nexus would not be an issue.
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I like phones one size and a tablet another. The Nexus is a good size. In the world of Android devices, it's old and it's still the best. Maybe it could use a front facing camera but, who uses those anyway?
N2:
Front facing camera
More internal memory
Faster processer
Same Vanilla goodness
Minor tweaks on a GREAT phone.
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I dont thng internal memory is solution , i am using cm6 with i can put every app to my class 10 16gb sdcard
Agree. Nexus's size is perfect for me.
The N1's size is just right for me! I love using phones in one hand, and when I tried the Galaxy S for a couple of weeks, I always had problems accessing the top of the screen with my thumb. With the N1, I can just touch the top enough to dismiss notifications.
4" screens are only nice when you wanna watch videos, but watching videos is not really what I do on my N1 anyway.
Sometimes I wish it were a bit smaller for day-to-day use, at least for my taste.
Almost prefect as is. Trim the "fat" on the bottom, and then it's perfect. I want the 3.7 screen with about 1/8 of trim around it! When I need a bigger screen, I get my tablet out..
I really like the size of the N1. I've tried the Droid, Droid X, Evo, Incredible, Vibrant, Galaxy slider, and more but nothing so far is making me want to spend the money for a new device.
I wish it were just a hair wider. I notice the slight difference between iPhone and N1 when typing in portrait mode.
You know what I wish?
I wish they start making smartphones with no space between the screen and the end of the chassis...so a 4,3" screen phone would have the size of a nexus...and it would look awesome to me...imagine to have the only screen in your hands
Erase that useless boarders!
elmerendeiro said:
You know what I wish?
I wish they start making smartphones with no space between the screen and the end of the chassis...so a 4,3" screen phone would have the size of a nexus...and it would look awesome to me...imagine to have the only screen in your hands
Erase that useless boarders!
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Only problem with that is, as I found out with the SGS, which is sort of quite close to how you described, is that when you pick it up, if say the screen is already on, the edges of your hands (i.e. the flabby bits of your palms) catch the incredibly sensitive touch screen resulting in you often running things you didnt mean to run (like the browser who's icon was in the bottom right of the screen).
The idea sounds good in theory but in reality I dont think it'd work, it would be a nightmare IMO
Notables:
5.3" super AMOLED
1.4 ghz dual-core
2500 mAh battery
Stylus
1280x800 resolution!!!
Until a few days ago we'd heard surprisingly little about the Galaxy Note, a handset rumored to be launching alongside the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and Wave 3 at IFA. It's ironic, really, because of all the phones to have kept a low profile, this is a memorable one. Behold, a 5.3-inch handset with a stowaway pen for note-taking, drawing and grabbing screen captures. In other words, a Dell Streak-esque hunk of a device that blurs the lines between phone and tablet. You're looking at a Gingerbread-running HSPA+ handset with a 1280 x 800 Super AMOLED display, dual 8MP and 2MP cameras, a removable 2,500mAh battery and the same Samsung-made dual-core 1.4GHz processor you'll find in the just-announced Galaxy Tab 7.7. For a phone this gargantuan, it's actually quite thin at light, at 9.65mm (0.38 inches) thick and a reasonable 178 grams (6.3 ounces). We had a few minutes to handle the phone in advance of today's press conference, and found it surprisingly easy to grip, even in our small hands. As with the Infuse 4G --whose own 4.5-inch screen once seemed impossibly sprawling -- the thin shape makes it tenable, as does the lightweight, textured plastic lining the back.
As you'd expect, Android 2.3 comes layered with TouchWiz on top and, in this case, seven home screens and a touch-optimized interface dubbed "S Pen" designed to take advantage of that pen. These include S Planner, a native calendar and to-do list app, from which you can drag and drop appointments, changing time slots without having to open an entry. S Memo for note-taking, meanwhile, accepts voice, photo, text and handwritten input. We also got a quick glimpse of Virtual Whiteboard, a more collaborative form of note-taking. On top of that, Samsung says it's releasing the S Pen SDK to third-party developers, and the company's banking on more apps for organizing photos and drawing, among other things. For now, this is merely a global launch: Samsung says it's still in discussions with carriers worldwide, so depending on your neck of the woods it might be awhile before you hear anything definitive about pricing or availability. Find the some fancy press shots (and a promo vid) after the break, and stay tuned for our hands-on.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-note-official-5-3-inch-super-amoled-display-s/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr3aDjjC-y0
This is my next phone... if it really becomes available.
Love it, I think. Was just gonna post the same link.
I wonder how the size of the overall device compares to our Streaks...
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This is great news. I like my streak but there are so many reasons to be excited for the samasung note. It trumps the dell in every way technically, definitely a superphone! Any info on release date or retail price? Hopefully, this is on T-Mob and there is a contract discount ^_^.
Could that be an optical scroll pad? That is unusual.
Nuthin' beats square inches.....
178 grams - pretty impressive.
Much uglier than the Streak, but if there
won't be any Opus One, I might go for it.
It also about the same thickness. I'm super stoked about the 1280x800 screen.
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Love it, I think. Was just gonna post the same link.
I wonder how the size of the overall device compares to our Streaks...
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I would prefer to have the same size of streak, it is exactly fit my pocket, however will wait to see if it is a slightly bigger I would go with it.
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178 grams - petty impressive.
Much uglier than the Streak, but if there
won't be any Opus One, I might go for it.
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I will never go for another Dell Mobile. In my point of view, Samsung the best ever mobile industry with their frequently support and updates.
This looks amazing!!! defo my next phone after the streak, think I might start saving for it now :-D
I'm really interested. Honestly, I'm pretty much checked out of ever owning another Dell product in general. I haven't seen quality from them in awhile, whether that be support (in most cases) or the actual device.
I'm setting my sights on getting a Samsung phone of one flavor or another very soon.
what really bothers me is the lack of LED notification lights. it's the thing I hate most on the streak and I'd hate alot to buy another phone with this very stupid flaw. and sammy is well known for this particular stupidity...
The only down side is the old pentile technology being used for the screen. Its dimension should be similar to streak due to the narrower edge.
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I would prefer to have the same size of streak, it is exactly fit my pocket, however will wait to see if it is a slightly bigger I would go with it.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4135&idPhone2=3353
I would definitely go for the Opus One if it actually exists, but until then this is first on my wish list...
Oh look samsung can do 850/900/1900/2100 on a single device, that's EU+US models combined on the streak. Why is it so uncommon?
It's only 3.9mm wider too, so 5.3 vs 5.0 isnt THAT bad.
Previously i wasnt interested in it as 5.0 is already large but 3.9mm doesnt sound that bad.
Might be a good full stop streak replacement, keep in mind hardware wise it's prob pretty similar to it's SGSII cousins and rom support >might< not be such an uphill struggle like with s5
Though the other specs isnt a fair comparison as it's a full year older, excluding your preference for samoled/pentile issues it's pretty much a straight upgrade to s5 it seems. basically what we expect from opus one without having dell screw it up (does having another manufactor design/build/release your phone for your count? )
1280x800 on 5.3"? that by itself sounds crazy, that's 284dpi, even with the wonkiness of amoled -> pixel count that's a lot
New Samsung Fanboy!
Never really got into the Samsung gear, BUT THIS!
They answered our prayers!
OK, I do wish it was LCD instead of AMOLED so I don't have to use black themes to save battery and avoid burn-ins. That's prolly one of my biggest problem wth Samsung, their fixation with the AMOLED screens.
this is slightly interesting, but what lcd density will they have to run on this thing 140? oww my eyes...!
So it's actually SHORTER than the streak? I have been hoping to get as close to the 5" screen as I could, but I never dreamed of getting bigger!
HTC better hurry, or this will be my Christmas present to myself!
If they market this thing half as well as the Galaxy Tab, it will be very popular! Then hopefully heads will roll @ Dell, cuz they invented the thing...
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Keep in mind the streak tapers off near the top and bottom, the new samsung doesnt, or rather it's less pronounced.
Think on the streak where it starts to curve and chop off that curving part at both ends and it's about the same size.
The important part is it's not massively wider, it's 0.3 inchs larger screen with only 0.15 inches wider. Unless you have very long fingers the streak is already hard to use one handed reaching for the far end.
4.5 is about as large as you can easily use one handed depending on the size of the bezel. The streak is by no means hard, it simply could be easier.
It's also strangely lighter, the streak is already deceptively light for it's weight (i dont know if it ACTUALLY is light for it's weight, but it feels plenty light) they coulda crammed in more battery and made it fatter, both phones are really thin for being so large
How about the 2500 mAh battery! That's bigger than the EXTENDED battery on my streak that makes it as thick as a brick!
The stylus seems a little goofy, but the the Streak is the first phone I've had in a long time that didn't have one. I wonder if that means that the screen will react to any touch?
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I also like that it's defaulted to portrait unlike the Streak.
The nicest phone I've ever seen!
Before i get flamed for dumbest thread ever, just wanted to note ive been seeing a lot of posts on xda and other forums about all the 4.5"+ screens fixing to come out soon with ice cream sandwich. A lot of these phones wont have physical face buttons. No fanny pack required. Or bigger pockets. Or dolly. Or briefcase. Blah. But who knows. The next generation of phones might be galaxy notes me toos.
I voided my warranty.
Hmmm... I hear what you are saying, but what's your point?
My ATRIX has wrote this without my consent!
Dumbest thread ever!
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That's actually a good point. Plus they'll be thinner.
I'm sure manufacturers did their research before deciding that 4.5" is the future.
you do have a good point. but what about the normal people who actually use their phones for calls and dont want to use two hands to hold the phone up to their ear? and not everyone has huge hands or wears loose jeans.. lol
i even got annoyed using the HD7 at times because you cant use one hand with everything.. its fun for the first few weeks but yeah.
i think 4" to 4.2" is perfect size, not too big or too small. everyone seems to love the 4" sweetspot. i dont understand why not make more of them, especially HTC they always make 4.2" or 3.7" lol. than again its all personal preference.
Dont get me wrong, i would love to have a 4.5-4.7" phone to mess around with and play games on at times, but that is what a tablet is for -_-
stratax said:
you do have a good point. but what about the normal people who actually use their phones for calls and dont want to use two hands to hold the phone up to their ear? and not everyone has huge hands or wears loose jeans.. lol
i even got annoyed using the HD7 at times because you cant use one hand with everything.. its fun for the first few weeks but yeah.
i think 4" to 4.2" is perfect size, not too big or too small. everyone seems to love the 4" sweetspot. i dont understand why not make more of them, especially HTC they always make 4.2" or 3.7" lol. than again its all personal preference.
Dont get me wrong, i would love to have a 4.5-4.7" phone to mess around with and play games on at times, but that is what a tablet is for -_-
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you said i have a good point but i think you still missed it. i was using the atrix as reference because i have it, this is an atrix forum and it's a small topic worth a few posts. if the atrix is ~5" diagonal across, take away the capacitive buttons at the button and add a 4.5-4.65" screen and the phone will not get dramatically bigger. it's going to be kinda like an upgrade from the nexus one, and i speak from experience here, it gotta a hair taller and little bit wider. i think the google nexus will be a little wider. so nothing to balk about when using it as a phone. if it does get a little wider some people might have a problem with it. i sometimes have a hard time reaching the other side but all i gotta do is reposition it. i think at most we'll have another .25" to reach across, but that shouldn't be a problem for me, but it might be for a few. we're prolly talking galaxy s2 at the biggest.
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you said i have a good point but i think you still missed it. i was using the atrix as reference because i have it, this is an atrix forum and it's a small topic worth a few posts. if the atrix is ~5" diagonal across, take away the capacitive buttons at the button and add a 4.5-4.65" screen and the phone will not get dramatically bigger. it's going to be kinda like an upgrade from the nexus one, and i speak from experience here, it gotta a hair taller and little bit wider. i think the google nexus will be a little wider. so nothing to balk about when using it as a phone. if it does get a little wider some people might have a problem with it. i sometimes have a hard time reaching the other side but all i gotta do is reposition it. i think at most we'll have another .25" to reach across, but that shouldn't be a problem for me, but it might be for a few. we're prolly talking galaxy s2 at the biggest.
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I love this...the Atrix is 5" diagonally...well...since this is how they measure all of the flat screens and such...we don't need it any bigger to be better...just add some more resolution to it...some of us actually use them to talk a-lot on...not just text and play games..I have no problems with the size of it to watch my movies with it...and any bigger will be a royal PITA to carry around at work with out getting banged up...
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Yeah, well personally, i hope it s not much bigger either. It wont grow much if at all depending how they do it. Gs2 is too big for and so are the heads.
I voided my warranty.
5" would be great if it was edge to edge lcd, which probably wont happen. Unfortunately, my guess would be that Apple will create the first edge to edge lcd phone and THEN other companies will follow suit
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5" would be great if it was edge to edge lcd, which probably wont happen. Unfortunately, my guess would be that Apple will create the first edge to edge lcd phone and THEN other companies will follow suit
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I don't see it as unfortunate, though. As long as someone is driving innovation in the industry then consumers are benefited.
However, it annoys me that no company other than Apple would do it first.
Edge 2 edge has downsides. The way tour digitizer will react or error when holding it. An example of this is grab a phone with little to no bezel on the sides and a ****ty digitizer. Nexus one is a good example. I cant think of any phones wuth no bezels on the side and good digitizer but it still acts up sometimes when your fingers are over lapping the sides. Also, the phones will get thicker. Everybodys going to have to kick their anorexic phone habits for an edge 2 edge.
I voided my warranty.
The Atrix has a 4" diagonal DISPLAY. The nav buttons do not count. Actually, in order to get 5", you'd have to count the entire face of the phone (and it still wouldn't be quite 5). This is not how it is measured. The issue is display size.
Also, the Atrix has a small display, for one with a 4" diagonal. Since it has a thin aspect ratio (9:16), its surface area is not as great as, say, the Galaxy S, which has a wider aspect ratio (3:5). Both phones have 4" diagonals, while one is actually bigger. I suppose you could say that the Atrix is small for its size.
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The Atrix has a 4" diagonal DISPLAY. The nav buttons do not count. Actually, in order to get 5", you'd have to count the entire face of the phone (and it still wouldn't be quite 5). This is not how it is measured. The issue is display size.
Also, the Atrix has a small display, for one with a 4" diagonal. Since it has a thin aspect ratio (9:16), its surface area is not as great as, say, the Galaxy S, which has a wider aspect ratio (3:5). Both phones have 4" diagonals, while one is actually bigger. I suppose you could say that the Atrix is small for its size.
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Duh. Did you even read the thread?
I voided my warranty.
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Duh. Did you even read the thread?
I voided my warranty.
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A 4.5" 9:16 AR screen would be 2.2" x 3.9". Assuming a quarter inch bezel on all sides, that would be 2.7" x 4.4" or 4.9" diagonally. So you can have a 4.5" screen on a phone just slightly fatter but shorter than the Atrix. 4.5" will be the new standard.
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you said i have a good point but i think you still missed it. i was using the atrix as reference because i have it, this is an atrix forum and it's a small topic worth a few posts. if the atrix is ~5" diagonal across, take away the capacitive buttons at the button and add a 4.5-4.65" screen and the phone will not get dramatically bigger. it's going to be kinda like an upgrade from the nexus one, and i speak from experience here, it gotta a hair taller and little bit wider. i think the google nexus will be a little wider. so nothing to balk about when using it as a phone. if it does get a little wider some people might have a problem with it. i sometimes have a hard time reaching the other side but all i gotta do is reposition it. i think at most we'll have another .25" to reach across, but that shouldn't be a problem for me, but it might be for a few. we're prolly talking galaxy s2 at the biggest.
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oh, i missed that part. still you do have a good point lol. i wasnt talking about form factor 100%. i just like the screen size itself. i do miss my 4.2" screen on my HD7 but i also got tired of it as well at times. how would you use the phone if it had no bottom or anything? if it were JUST the screen and no plastic/siding on the front, how would you hold it without pressing and wouldnt it be hard as hell to text on? i think the atrix is perfect size with a perfect size screen for just moderate use. i just hate how ugly it is haha. these are the things i cant really make up my mind on though.. i love to have phones with big screen for media, but i like smaller phones for just texting and such, i guess thats why i set at 4-4.2". ive never had a phone bigger so i am not really one to judge! i am interested in the new HTC WP7 with a 4.7" screen though.
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[edit] Decided its not even worth commenting on.... *facepalm*
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your face must hurt. you facepalm on alot of threads lol.
I guess Im the only one who is down for a larger display standard, I would even go as far as 6 inches and still put an Otterbox on it lol. I dont keep my phone in my pocket now as it is I carry it in my hand most of the time. And yes I do have a tablet, but I still want an oversized phone as I spend much more time on it. I think its Sony who is working to develop the "foldable" displays, I believe its just a concept at this time. But yea if I could buy a 6 inch display or a phone that unfolds into a tablet I would lol.
Edit: and Im not talking a kyo cera (or whatever it is) ugly ass 2 screen fold Im talking the actual display itself is bendable (currently only up to so many thousand times then the display quality starts to decrease). Do a Goog search you will find it..
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I guess Im the only one who is down for a larger display standard, I would even go as far as 6 inches and still put an Otterbox on it lol. I dont keep my phone in my pocket now as it is I carry it in my hand most of the time. And yes I do have a tablet, but I still want an oversized phone as I spend much more time on it. I think its Sony who is working to develop the "foldable" displays, I believe its just a concept at this time. But yea if I could buy a 6 inch display or a phone that unfolds into a tablet I would lol.
Edit: and Im not talking a kyo cera (or whatever it is) ugly ass 2 screen fold Im talking the actual display itself is bendable (currently only up to so many thousand times then the display quality starts to decrease). Do a Goog search you will find it..
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that tablet looks badass, i wish there was less of a gap in the middle though. i am so glad to see sony in the tablet business now.
I'd like a big phone but phones with big screens should be the only ones. not everyone wants a huge phone that cant even fit in your pocket.. some people like a medium screen with a keyboard on bottom, some people like a 4" screen that isnt too big or small, some people like phones that look like dvd cases up to your head and cant fit in your pocket, and some people are even more dumb and like small screens with no keyboards. its all personal preference. there shouldnt be only one choice. im up for the first three always being available. iphone sh*t that isnt only 3.5 can go away all it wants. too small. unless you are 12, which you shouldnt even have a phone if you are.
i remember those days when everyone was freaking out over the dell streak, i wanted to get my hands on one so bad lol.
I saw this very attractive young woman recently using a dell streak to text or something. Then she got a phone call. I had to walk away very fast because it was hilarious. It looked like she was trying to talk to a book. But i welcome 4.5" inch screens with out buttons on the face. the phones out now are way too big as and i dont want anybody laughing at me.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
I just wanted to say that I dislike the trend of manufacturers making bigger displays. First jump was to 4.3" , then 4.5" and now we see a new HTC with 4.7".
In my opinion. Screen sizes above 4" becomes unpractical.
I love my Samsung Galaxy S. And the 4" is a reasonable size (since its light and slim).
I just want to encourage Samsung not to follow this stupid trend and hope that their future versions (sgs3?) will go back to 4" or even maybe smaller.
I almost agree, I think the sgs2 is just about as big a screen as I would like to see, any larger is impractical. If we wanted a NotePad, we'd buy one
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A SGS with a 3.7" screen would be great.
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A SGS with a 3.7" screen would be great.
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3.7" is small... 4" is optimal imho.
I'm wondering what you'll say when galaxy NOTE arrives with 5.3 "
Well technically the Samsung Galaxy Note is known to have 5.3 inches screensize so I guess they already went on the war to make the hybrid between 7 inch tablet and the smartphones.
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Well technically the Samsung Galaxy Note is known to have 5.3 inches screensize so I guess they already went on the war to make the hybrid between 7 inch tablet and the smartphones.
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We already had that with the Streak. Major flop.
robogo1982 said:
We already had that with the Streak. Major flop.
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I won't be buying a tablet, so I'd consider the Samsung Note. yes it's big, but some people carry a tablet and a phone anyway and this is a lot more compact than that option.
Anyway no one has to buy anything they don't like; Samsung is still making phones in different sizes.
Personally although I like 4" when used as a phone, I find it too small for browsing, gps and games. In this regard the note is a nice size. If I don't get a note, I'd be happy up to 4.5" for phone along with big bump in resolution.
They don't make it as 4.3"-4.5" unless most people like them, so as long as they make sgs3 as 4.3" or bigger if they see it sell best then that is their good decision.
You can wait your smaller screen for other phone than samsung galaxy s!
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I just wanted to say that I dislike the trend of manufacturers making bigger displays. First jump was to 4.3" , then 4.5" and now we see a new HTC with 4.7".
In my opinion. Screen sizes above 4" becomes unpractical.
I love my Samsung Galaxy S. And the 4" is a reasonable size (since its light and slim).
I just want to encourage Samsung not to follow this stupid trend and hope that their future versions (sgs3?) will go back to 4" or even maybe smaller.
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Once ics comes out the soft keys will be gone, so it will just fill in. So generally same size but less bezel and wasted space.
Think Tony Starks phone as eventual endpoint. Probably not see through though.
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3.7" is small... 4" is optimal imho.
I'm wondering what you'll say when galaxy NOTE arrives with 5.3 "
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You know what's funny? Because of this quote it's better to make devices in every possible size. Each to it's own.
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I just wish I will have enough money saved around April, May 2012 (my contract ends then) to get the Galaxy Note which in my opinion is a marvel, the only problem would be finding a leather pocket type case for it but for my usual use of mostly browsing and chatting and some video watching along with casual gaming it will be quite nice at 5.3" yet for phone calls I think I will have to get a BT headset to feel comfortable.
I absolutely LOVE this trend, That's long been one of my biggest wishes regarding smartphones!
I even tried to replace my then smartphone with the Galaxy Tab but it didn't fit the fanny pack that I *always* use. A 5.5"/6" smartphone would be ideal for me and I will definitely change my Galaxy S for the Galaxy Note as soon as it's out and off its peak launch price!
I think we'll see 4.5" in a similar size as the SGS with a much smaller bezel in the near future. I've seen R&D on more digitizers that will reduce the need for space on the one side (right now top or bottom has the digitizer support stick out 1/4" or so from the screen).
I agree 5" could even work with a headset, I use the wired one that came with my SGS it's fine. It wouldn't be for everybody but my pocket could hold a 5" device with a small bezel (and preferably a rounded back) just fine.
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I prefer the screen size of the S II. A lot of times the screen of galaxy S just feels a little too small.
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No **** jokes yet? I am impressed.
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Why should we make fun of ****? The man never hurt nobody
I hope that they make a 4" and the 5.3". Between the two, the person should be able to choose. And hopefully the hardware is the same that you don't lose out by buying the screen. You can charge extra for the extra screen space but don't cheap out on the processor etc.
well for me ill stay till the new phone tht has rumored news of 4.5'' ,2ghz quadcore,very slim.i started wiv nokia the brick phone wiv antenna an tht was some dream phone those times everyone likd it tht way(no hightek)but i an all moved we never stickd to one piece atleast in my case..so its all abt style an future..may b soon wll use some holograph chip instead of touch phones
Agree with op, ideally I'd like a sgsIII which is same size as orig sgs, but with a screen the full size of phone. Shame it won't happen.......
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Doesnt seem my suggestion to Samsung worked so well..
http://www.swedroid.se/43774/losa-rykten-kring-samsung-galaxy-s3-en-kommande-uberandroid/#comments
Use google translate since its on swedish..
4" Screen Optimum... neither more nor less... I would never choose a phone bigger than 4"
I love My SGS....
Good grief. It's got Pixel sized bezels!
The good old Galaxy Note 3 was so far ahead of its time when it came to minimal bezels.
Galaxy finally has small bezels again but no root for US phones. Or LOS/AOSP ROM's.
OnePlus 5 had a chance to swoop in but dammit if the bezels and phone with its 5.5" screen are still bigger than the old Note 3 with it's 5.7" screen.
I really don't like this bezelless trend. I've played with the G6, S8 and owned the note 2-5.
Screens are delicate enough, and good tempered glass has only become harder to find since this curved screen craze has shown up. We don't need any help with making our phones any more delicate, thanks.
Not trying to flame you in anyway, I just honestly think we do not need bezelless displays.
Bezel-less is a gimmick. Looks good from a design aspect but the functionality isn't 100% there since black bars when watching Videos/VR Apps/OS have to be made to work
Also 1+ tries to keep the cost of their devices to a minimum and in a video they did mention they'd use a bezelless display but currently wasn't in a position to do it
In future we will all have them folding phones, but till then phones should retain a minimum amount of bezel, because its more functional that way, phones like S8 are a disaster. Those who actually use it know it. At the same time the size of bezel on the Pixel is an abomination.
I don't know why OP created the OnePlus topic though, liked their first attempt, second one was cooler, third one was the best from them and now this one is simply pathetic. Not that I buy these sort of phones (brand I mean here) but still, not everyone is gonna, or should land a U11 or a Pixel anyway.
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In future we will all have them folding phones, but till then phones should retain a minimum amount of bezel, because its more functional that way, phones like S8 are a disaster. Those who actually use it know it. At the same time the size of bezel on the Pixel is an abomination.
I don't know why OP created the OnePlus topic though, liked their first attempt, second one was cooler, third one was the best from them and now this one is simply pathetic. Not that I buy these sort of phones (brand I mean here) but still, not everyone is gonna, or should land a U11 or a Pixel anyway.
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I use the S8+ and it is far from a disaster for my usage. That's just my opinion though.
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I really don't like this bezelless trend. I've played with the G6, S8 and owned the note 2-5.
Screens are delicate enough, and good tempered glass has only become harder to find since this curved screen craze has shown up. We don't need any help with making our phones any more delicate, thanks.
Not trying to flame you in anyway, I just honestly think we do not need bezelless displays.
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I completely agree.
I have larger hands than most and need some surface area other than the screen to hold on to.
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I completely agree.
I have larger hands than most and need some surface area other than the screen to hold on to.
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Same, I'm 2 meters tall with hands just as freakishly large, while I am no advocate for Xperia size bezels *Twitches* or pixel xl sized bezels *Shudders* I would much rather see some front firing speakers than this bezeless craze continue.
I just generally upset with where phones are going right now... I felt like last year we got so many awesome upgrades,
The Moto Z play keeping it conssitent with amazing battery life and a success at modularity.
The Honor 8 bringing dual cams in. (Even though this was not the first android phone to do this, I think the honr 8 was the first one that picked up a lot of steam.)
The S7 (I can't believe I said this, I dislike samsung, but I have to get them their credit) but water resistance, wireless charging, good camera, micro sd all in one package!
The Axon 7 filling in the gap for htc with their identity crisis, bringing the best front firing speakers with the same processor and screen resolution as flagships of that year..
The Pixel (Price way too high, I know..) but it's Google's Foray to inject their product to more people.
LG, with... Hah, wait, no they still ate it in 2016.
Then processors for 2016, I felt there was such a huge jump from the 810 to the 820. With performance and heat.. To me it seemed like manufacturers were trying to improve the usability of their phones, with this year, we are killing headphone jacks and trying to get bezelless phones that are wafer thin. I would much rather have a phone with a larger battery or more room for heat dispersion than a phone that would break if I accidentally sat on it wrong.
I'm not trying to discredit anyone's desires here, I just feel like focusing on bezels is so... Secondary.. It's aesthetics, I thought we should just leave that for Samsung and Apple to chase, (And LG to pretend they can catch up)
Smaller bezels = smaller phone. I want the smallest phone possible with a LARGE screen.
That Note 3 was just damned perfect.
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Smaller bezels = smaller phone. I want the smallest phone possible with a LARGE screen.
That Note 3 was just damned perfect.
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I agree. Not sure Samsung's goal was specifically for a bezeless phone, but more likely to put the biggest screen possible on the smallest chassis they could build. In that respect, I love the trend. I'm not fond of cutting the screen a la the essential phone to decrease phone size
I'd be happy with a phone the same size as the Pixel with the same bezels. Better battery, SD card slot, waterproof, good camera, and unlockable bootloader.
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I'd be happy with a phone the same size as the Pixel with the same bezels. Better battery, SD card slot, waterproof, good camera, and unlockable bootloader.
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I know it's probably a lost cause but i am hoping they keep the AUX jack as well.
Besides curved edges and delicate display concerns the thing that bothers me about the bezeless design trend is that the more they reduce the bottom bezel the further down on-screen keyboard becomes. This results in more stress to my hand when swipe typing which is my primary input method on my phone. On the S8 it's not too bad since the phone is narrow and I can reach the lower corners of the keyboard fine when holding one handed but on the S8+ stretch becomes more pronounced and I suspect long stints of texting will be an issue for me.