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New Sensor or What? Help need!

Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!

DTNT said:
Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
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First off, welcome to XDA
Secondly, do you mean the 3G Camera or earpiece or the light sensor?
Can you provide image of what you are describing?
Check out page 25 of manual

Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.

DTNT said:
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
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No sensor, just your imagination, scratch or build defect.

I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!

DTNT said:
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
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I have check on my girlfriend's TouchHD and there is....... NOTHING!

There is nothing there. Your phone might have some kind of minor manufacturing flaw that makes you think there is something there. I have had my HD for a year and have never heard of anything being there. I looked at it from all angles, and compared it to the right side. My phone shows nothing. Both the left and the right side look the same.

Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!

DTNT said:
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
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I highly doubt there's anything. I've recently opened up my phone to replace the screen and had to mess around in there with the camera/speaker/light sensor and there was nothing else.

Please see attached photoes, can anybody explain this window dedication? Waiting for your replyes.

looks like a air bubble under the screen protector.

Oh common guys, it is not bubble, not scratch, please look on top of htc logo untill calldynamic, this thing placed between them. Mayby mine is special, super-assembled!!!

ok, i was doubtful but i checked anyway and couldnt see anything, then i saw your pics and thought id give it another try and nope, nada, then i figured id pull it to bits and have a gander and inside and still nothing.
Whilst this was slightly entertaining im affraid to say you have probably got a bubble under the first layer of screen.
That is the most likely explination, the chances you have a one off device that no one else has which has some mystical new sensor is so small you'd be better off putting your life savings and the money you made selling your house on the lottery in the hope you'll hit the big one!

Ok, if accept the version that it is bubble under first layer, can you explain why this bubble has so right geometric forms? The guy next to me has an IPhone, and even him thought that it is porximity sensor like his apple has. Strange and Mistyc!!!

I agree that the shape is very geometrical, and I can understand how it would make you think there is something special there. It is unique, but I still don't think it's related to any functions or features the phone has. Look at the letters "htc". You have a slight frame around each letter that is the same shade/color as the "window" you are referring to. My "htc" letters have no such frame around them. The black of the phone comes up directly to where the white letters start.
So, I think it's some kind of strange manufacturing effect.
I'll even attach the service manual for you to look at.
Download service manual here

To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.

Absolutely agree with htc letter, before your post i don't even see this feat, well, i think i should agree with that this window has no any function. Besides i saw off. manual, no-nothing. OK, waiting for another variants of reply.

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To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
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Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.

DTNT said:
Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
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I would just ask HTC directly on their contact site:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx

Looks like something trapped under the screen protector, did you peel it back and check?

Back Camera not centered ?

Is this normal ?
Is there anyone there with same issue ?
Should I replaced it back ?

sectorlord said:
Is this normal ?
Is there anyone there with same issue ?
Should I replaced it back ?
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Explain

The iris (inner most center) is not in the with the outer circle.

Mine is the same way, I'm not real worried about it. Seems to take pictures well.

Geez... it bothering me..

Holy crap, I didn't notice it until you said something! Now I want to throw my phone away. J/K about the throwing away part, but I really didn't notice that until you started this thread.
They probably couldn't fit the camera module perfectly centered on the main board but figured they could fudge it by centering the housing without too many noticing. Little did they know you'd be buying one! (Ha ha, J/K again...)

haha... coz my S2 is perfectly centered...
Need to buy another one... or spend the money to cure my OCD...hahah

If the pictures you take look good and not off-center, I guess you shouldn't worry about it.

No, it is towards the right side of the circle. It is not centered with the outer circle. I believe this is part of their design (perhaps some technical reason too)

Mine is also more on the right side...?
Any thoughts WHY they do it technically ?
Thanks

Guys, not to worry, this is just a minor parallax viewing problem.
Center your eyes, you should see the camera lens centered now..

I was looking at a demonstration Note on display yesterday, and I thought the lens didn't look quite right. Now I know.
It took fabulous photos though!

is this a joke thread. mine is exact center.
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you're not looking hard... I checked 3 units today but all of them have varying off ctr..from .1mm at the best...
so I cant replace mine since all of them are same

mine is centered (lens).
the outer part is not, in fact, it's not even secured as it moves around but never actually blocking the lens, so the camera works fine.

Looking at other camera...Galaxy Tabs etc.. most of them are not exactly centered..
I dont know why I making so much puss on this...hehehe
Really need to fix my OCD..

Mine is centred to the right. Damn, it's going in the bin now!!
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Just returned my Note with another one... after looking at least 3 notes
I now have a perfectly centered camera...hehehe

[Q] Completely blurry pictures! Autofocus software bug or defect camera??

I really need your help on this one guys!
I unpacked my brand new Nexus 4 yesterday. Everything seemed fine until I fired up the camera app. Everything was really blurry and the autofocus didn't seem to work at all! We're not talking about some minor autofocusing problem here, but a huge deal breaking disaster...
I then also noticed that when I moved the camera really close to an object, the image got sharp! So, it's like it's in macro mode all the time or something. I've tried to restart the phone, factory reset etc. NOTHING works! The worst part is that I can't even go to google and replace it, because I live in Finland and got the phone brought home to me by a friend who visited USA... Is there anything I can do to make it work?
I also tried a third party camera app (camera zoom fx) in which there were several focusing modes, like macro, normal, auto and infinity mode. Didn't matter which mode I used, there was no differens..
Have any of you guys experienced the same problem? I know there's been a lot of talk about the Nexus 4 camera, but I could never have imagined that a brand new flagship phone would have these kind of problems right out of the box. Please help me.

This may sound a bit stupid, but you have tried simply cleaning the glass over the lens and checking it for scratches right? You seem to have tried a fair amount of things so it's likely to be a hardware issue of some sort.

Not trying to be a smart ass, but did you remove the plastic film off of the backside. I made that mistake before with a different phone. The film was barely noticeable because it was only over the camera lens from inside the cover, so I just thought the phone had a sorry camera. Otherwise, it sounds like you could have a defective camera.

Also when you take a picture, hold the button until the focus ring rotates and locks on the 12 o'clock position, then let go of the button.

fernandezhjr said:
Not trying to be a smart ass, but did you remove the plastic film off of the backside. I made that mistake before with a different phone. The film was barely noticeable because it was only over the camera lens from inside the cover, so I just thought the phone had a sorry camera. Otherwise, it sounds like you could have a defective camera.
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Also when you take a picture, hold the button until the focus ring rotates and locks on the 12 o'clock position, then let go of the button.
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Thx for your answers! I'm afraid I've tested all that. Still no luck.

ballhannes said:
Thx for your answers! I'm afraid I've tested all that. Still no luck.
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Claasical case of yet another defected user.

Camera Fault, Haze + Creaking

I'm not sure whether any other people have had this but it seems like there could be a fault with some of the camera on some devices (or just mine?).
I preordered and received my z2 on the 22nd april, my sister just bought one today and I was comparing the two - it definitely seems like the new one captures photos far better where sunlight is concerned, it looks like there's an area of haze/overexposure on my one - I've attached photos to illustrate.
The ones with the i's on the end of the file name are with my z2, the ones without are with the new one - both were taken with superior auto from almost exactly the same position and at the same time with exactly the same settings and both on the same firmware.
Also does anyone else's device creak when you push a little on the back just above the sony logo?
I've had the creaking from day one and hasn't affected the waterproofing or anything so I was just going to live with it, but now I've noticed the camera thing I'm going to try and get an exchange.

daven said:
I'm not sure whether any other people have had this but it seems like there could be a fault with some of the camera on some devices (or just mine?).
I preordered and received my z2 on the 22nd april, my sister just bought one today and I was comparing the two - it definitely seems like the new one captures photos far better where sunlight is concerned, it looks like there's an area of haze/overexposure on my one - I've attached photos to illustrate.
The ones with the i's on the end of the file name are with my z2, the ones without are with the new one - both were taken with superior auto from almost exactly the same position and at the same time with exactly the same settings and both on the same firmware.
Also does anyone else's device creak when you push a little on the back just above the sony logo?
I've had the creaking from day one and hasn't affected the waterproofing or anything so I was just going to live with it, but now I've noticed the camera thing I'm going to try and get an exchange.
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This is a dumb question but are you sure your lens isn't smudged?

leocooper said:
This is a dumb question but are you sure your lens isn't smudged?
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I was hoping it was something trivial as that but unfortunately not, I made sure the lens the clean - used a microfibre cloth etc even checked the lens for scratches and it's clean. I had a screen protector on the back and took that off to make sure it wasn't somehow distorting the light into the lens but it didn't make a difference.
May I ask whether you have any creaking on your device?

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I was hoping it was something trivial as that but unfortunately not, I made sure the lens the clean - used a microfibre cloth etc even checked the lens for scratches and it's clean. I had a screen protector on the back and took that off to make sure it wasn't somehow distorting the light into the lens but it didn't make a difference.
May I ask whether you have any creaking on your device?
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Oh that must suck then And I don't have a Z2 yet, I'm looking to get it or the M8 in early June

Camera is working fine for me. Although I also have the creaking when pushing at the back.
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maybe your camera is experiencing light leakage. definitely a problem

That's the kind of photos I got when water entered my Xperia Z.
Have you been washing it ?
It might be moisture built up, but can't say
Why not get it replaced?
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It took a dunking last week lol but I can't see any moisture build up on the inside of the lens, maybe it is just light leakage. I'll just phone up for an exchange tomorrow - shame really because it had no other issues. Great phone though, looks like they've sorted out any other issues on the current batches.
Cheers for all your replies!

The creaking is what makes me think your device wasn't manufactured that good. Mine is as solid as a piece of metal. The camera doesn't have the haziness either so phone it in for a replacement because it shouldn't be a big problem to get a new one.
If you could slide out the "plastic paper" beside your sd slot and see what it says it would probably point us on when your phone was manufactured - should be something like "14W1*" where * stands for the week number

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The creaking is what makes me think your device wasn't manufactured that good. Mine is as solid as a piece of metal. The camera doesn't have the haziness either so phone it in for a replacement because it shouldn't be a big problem to get a new one.
If you could slide out the "plastic paper" beside your sd slot and see what it says it would probably point us on when your phone was manufactured - should be something like "14W1*" where * stands for the week number
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing, my sisters z2 doesn't creak either. Mine says 14W15 so I guess that means it was one of the first batches (maybe second batch?)
Hopefully the replacement won't have any issues, I'm slightly concerned about dead pixels etc

Interesting to see your photos, I have the same problem with mine.
I'll have to see if I can get it replaced I guess.
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Somebody pointed out in another thread, this haze can be caused by a case, especially if you are using flash.
In my case, I have a clear gel case which could easily cause light to reflect into the lens area.
Will test properly tomorrow.

furrypotato said:
Interesting to see your photos, I have the same problem with mine.
I'll have to see if I can get it replaced I guess.
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Somebody pointed out in another thread, this haze can be caused by a case, especially if you are using flash.
In my case, I have a clear gel case which could easily cause light to reflect into the lens area.
Will test properly tomorrow.
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That's interesting, kinda like the flash bleed issues on z1 compacts I read about I guess.
Although in this case I wasn't using the flash on either of the Z2's and they were both naked, even took the screen protector off the back of the phones to make sure it wasn't being caused by those (I had cut a square out of them for the flash/lens already though) and there was no change - one Z2 looked fine, the other not so much.
Thing is if my sister hadn't picked up a Z2 of her own I'd never have known, I just thought this was normal behaviour - at least the thread has made others aware of a possible problem (if mine wasn't just a one off)

I got my replacement Z2, and it creaks A LOT. It's W19, it's going back to the store tomorrow. My first one has bad speaker quality (W28). If I get a third, I'm returning and I'm going to another phone. I shouldn't have to go through 3 Z2s to get a decent one, but if my third one has something wrong, I'm done. Sony has a GORGEOUS phone and an awesome build, but I can't stand this anymore. Last one tomorrow, and we'll see.

looks like one of them has HDR enabled. check that. is there any condensation on the lens?

daven said:
Also does anyone else's device creak when you push a little on the back just above the sony logo?
I've had the creaking from day one and hasn't affected the waterproofing or anything so I was just going to live with it, but now I've noticed the camera thing I'm going to try and get an exchange.
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Hey,i have the exact same creaking issue!I thought i was the only one.I took it to the Service Center and the guy at the counter acknowledged the issue and said ill get a replacement and removed my sim card and memory card etc and only then i realized they cant provide a standby phone so i said ill come back later and submit the phone for replacement.
Later the SONY Store where i bought the phone from provided me a standby phone and they itself submitted my Z2 to the service center but few days later they returned the phone saying there isn't any issue :X i took it up with their customer care and they asked me to go to the service center again but i haven't got the time yet.
My batch number is 14W18,what is yours?
I checked some test pieces at the SONY Store and they had a similar issue but i checked again at another store and they seemed fine -_-
furrypotato said:
[/COLOR]Somebody pointed out in another thread, this haze can be caused by a case, especially if you are using flash.
In my case, I have a clear gel case which could easily cause light to reflect into the lens area.
Will test properly tomorrow.
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I have the same flash bleed issue on all the cases including the OEM ones provided by SONY.

ew..i have the creaking issue too.. its creaking when i put my finger below the flash...

I'm having the same issue as well. Every picture I take now, especially in brighter conditions, is hazy and somewhat blurry. I never tried my phone under water, but I can see something that wasn't there before. If I angle the phone, I can see that behind the back lens there is something like a smudge (similar to when the lens is dirty, but on the inside). Is it dried water from condensation or what? I talked to Sony centre via chat and they told me to send it to them. Problem is, the issue is too minor to be seen. I don't want to be told that it's fine and to pay for my phone to be sent back.
What did you guys end up doing? It's a shame. Pictures used to look beautiful. Now, even in good light, there' all mediocre and washed out.
Edit: I actually tried it in water while hot, it condensed and then it cleared up. Looking at it again, it seems that this haze comes from another layer of the cover lens. But it's not like a scratch, it's more like a badly applied screen protector, with air bubbles in it. I attached a picture of it, if anyone has any idea what it could be.

m17b said:
I'm having the same issue as well. Every picture I take now, especially in brighter conditions, is hazy and somewhat blurry. I never tried my phone under water, but I can see something that wasn't there before. If I angle the phone, I can see that behind the back lens there is something like a smudge (similar to when the lens is dirty, but on the inside). Is it dried water from condensation or what? I talked to Sony centre via chat and they told me to send it to them. Problem is, the issue is too minor to be seen. I don't want to be told that it's fine and to pay for my phone to be sent back.
What did you guys end up doing? It's a shame. Pictures used to look beautiful. Now, even in good light, there' all mediocre and washed out.
Edit: I actually tried it in water while hot, it condensed and then it cleared up. Looking at it again, it seems that this haze comes from another layer of the cover lens. But it's not like a scratch, it's more like a badly applied screen protector, with air bubbles in it. I attached a picture of it, if anyone has any idea what it could be.
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Its a problem for sure.Try to keep the phone in rise for 1 night.If its moisture behind the glass it will go off.But if its somethn else..better take the phone to the Sony center.

Bootloader unlocked !!!!
we have to force sony to do something quality of image gone after unlock bootloader, i'm suffering the same and i lost my drm :crying:

jakobdz said:
Bootloader unlocked !!!!
we have to force sony to do something quality of image gone after unlock bootloader, i'm suffering the same and i lost my drm :crying:
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Its not 100% sure that this is affecting Z2. No one complained by now.

[Q] Camera focus problem

Please help me, I just noticed that when I take a picture up close, my camera seems to only focus on the part that I touch, even though it's a flat thing like my monitor. It's like I'm applying tilt shift to my picture.
My Note 4 model is N910H and I'm on Sweet Rom V3, and installed camera mod from the apps forum. Tried using stock camera and 3rd party apps, still get the same result.
I uploaded some picture I'm taking from my monitor with my note 4 so that you can understand what I meant.
Is this hardware fault? or is it software?

Looks a bit too extreme. Just tried that myself - SLIGHTLY blur at the picture's end, but just slightly.
Your pictures look like taken with "Background Defocus".

Chefproll said:
Looks a bit too extreme. Just tried that myself - SLIGHTLY blur at the picture's end, but just slightly.
Your pictures look like taken with "Background Defocus".
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Yeah, this is really bothering me, when I want to take a picture of documents I can't read the whole page because of the blur.
I am reluctant to bring my note 4 to samsung as it already root so I guess my warranty is gone

shinobu91 said:
Yeah, this is really bothering me, when I want to take a picture of documents I can't read the whole page because of the blur. I am reluctant to bring my note 4 to samsung as it already root so I guess my warranty is gone
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Just an idea... You removed that protective film on the camera lens ?

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Just an idea... You removed that protective film on the camera lens ?
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I have removed them from the first time I unboxed it, even if I didn't remove it, it has hole in the middle so it should'nt affect the camera.
I have also tried cleaning the lens to no avail.

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I have removed them from the first time I unboxed it, even if I didn't remove it, it has hole in the middle so it should'nt affect the camera.
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I know. - But there are many users not even noticing it - and it's possible that the film shifted a bit, so it might cover a little part of the lens.
I have also tried cleaning the lens to no avail.
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Please try any other camera software. As said: It looks like that typical "defocus" effect - maybe that feature is still on although you can't see it being active.
There's a simlilar issue with the Sony Z3 front camera (the main camera IS an issue itself): There's a "Soft Skin" effect, causing massive blur. You can switch it off - but it still remains active.
So it wouldn't be the first time.

So I am not alone.
I am having similar issues with my camera.
Took it to Samsung for replacement. They were offering repair on a 10 day old phone.
Anxious to see what happens next
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Glad I'm not alone with focusing problems...
Here is my topic : Note 4 camera won't lock focus + blurry edges on pictures with far focus
Best regards,
Chris.

Nope, definitely not alone. I am having similar issues with my camera, and I have been having them since I got my phone on October 21'st. Taking it in for repairs or hopefully a replacement. For me, the camera will focus fine on stuff within a meter or two, but anything farther just will not focus unless I hit the phone. That sounds kinda dangerous, but that is the only thing I can do to fix it. I have pretty much everything possible with no fixes. It doesn't do it all the time, but it seems to get stuck 50/50. When it works, it works for a while. When it doesn't work, it doesn't work for a while.

Same here....I got a repair ticket in with Samsung, I unfortunately have to send my phone off for 2 weeks.................WHATEVER WILL I DO!???!!!???!!

note 4 verizon camera not focusing on documents
I had the same problem and the main purpose of the "Note" family of samsung is to edit documents on the fly so this sucks.
I could not find a solution. There is no option in the camera menu that corrects this. I tried using "cam scan" and "FX" camera app and they both had the same problem with partial blurred image.
I purchased my phone from craigslist and met the seller in the store to make sure it was legit and not stolen. I purchased the phone two or three weeks ago and I feel very fortunate that Verizon helped me to do a manufacturers defect claim after searching my IMEI number for date of original purchase. since the phone only came out a few months ago they should all still have the manufacture warranty.
I usually dont post to things because im not tech savvy but I thought I should give verizon credit for helping me even though I did not purchase the phone from their store. I just got back from the store and I should have my new phone in one business day and just mail the defective one back in the package they provide. Amazing since I work with documents and notes on the fly everyday.
sorry I dont have a fix for the problem and if you root your phone your SOL unless you have accidental handling and damage type insurance, if you catch my drift.

The pictures you posted worries me a little as this can happen in other Galaxy devices released in the near future. Samsung is really falling apart, and need to get their act together and hurt innocent customers. No wonder Samsung's quarterly report is much lower than expected.
shinobu91 said:
Please help me, I just noticed that when I take a picture up close, my camera seems to only focus on the part that I touch, even though it's a flat thing like my monitor. It's like I'm applying tilt shift to my picture.
My Note 4 model is N910H and I'm on Sweet Rom V3, and installed camera mod from the apps forum. Tried using stock camera and 3rd party apps, still get the same result.
I uploaded some picture I'm taking from my monitor with my note 4 so that you can understand what I meant.
Is this hardware fault? or is it software?
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Sorry I didn't update the thread. I brought my phone to Samsung service center, and had to leave it for 2 days for them to change my camera module. And it's now all good again. The problem obviously lies on the hardware, so nothing you can do to fix it unless you change that camera module.

Note 4 camera
THIS WHAT I DID WORKING FINE FOR ME HOPE ILL HELP YOU
Sashka: Let us perform a few troubleshooting steps on the device to isolate the cause of the issue. Shall we?
karim: OK
Sashka: Please go to Settings >> Application Manager >> swipe to All tab >> scroll to "Camera" app.
Sashka: Perform clear cache and clear data on it.
Sashka: It would reset the settings of the camera app.
Sashka: Perform this and check the issue with the camera's focus.
karim: LITTLE BETTER THANKS FOR THE HELP
Sashka: However, as the camera is fine now, Let us perform soft reset. It will refresh internal circuit of the phone: Remove the battery and re-insert it after 30 sec.
Sashka: Once you perform this, check the camera issue, this would refresh the circuitry as we have changed a few settings,