Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
DTNT said:
Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
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First off, welcome to XDA
Secondly, do you mean the 3G Camera or earpiece or the light sensor?
Can you provide image of what you are describing?
Check out page 25 of manual
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
DTNT said:
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
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No sensor, just your imagination, scratch or build defect.
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
DTNT said:
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
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I have check on my girlfriend's TouchHD and there is....... NOTHING!
There is nothing there. Your phone might have some kind of minor manufacturing flaw that makes you think there is something there. I have had my HD for a year and have never heard of anything being there. I looked at it from all angles, and compared it to the right side. My phone shows nothing. Both the left and the right side look the same.
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
DTNT said:
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
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I highly doubt there's anything. I've recently opened up my phone to replace the screen and had to mess around in there with the camera/speaker/light sensor and there was nothing else.
Please see attached photoes, can anybody explain this window dedication? Waiting for your replyes.
looks like a air bubble under the screen protector.
Oh common guys, it is not bubble, not scratch, please look on top of htc logo untill calldynamic, this thing placed between them. Mayby mine is special, super-assembled!!!
ok, i was doubtful but i checked anyway and couldnt see anything, then i saw your pics and thought id give it another try and nope, nada, then i figured id pull it to bits and have a gander and inside and still nothing.
Whilst this was slightly entertaining im affraid to say you have probably got a bubble under the first layer of screen.
That is the most likely explination, the chances you have a one off device that no one else has which has some mystical new sensor is so small you'd be better off putting your life savings and the money you made selling your house on the lottery in the hope you'll hit the big one!
Ok, if accept the version that it is bubble under first layer, can you explain why this bubble has so right geometric forms? The guy next to me has an IPhone, and even him thought that it is porximity sensor like his apple has. Strange and Mistyc!!!
I agree that the shape is very geometrical, and I can understand how it would make you think there is something special there. It is unique, but I still don't think it's related to any functions or features the phone has. Look at the letters "htc". You have a slight frame around each letter that is the same shade/color as the "window" you are referring to. My "htc" letters have no such frame around them. The black of the phone comes up directly to where the white letters start.
So, I think it's some kind of strange manufacturing effect.
I'll even attach the service manual for you to look at.
Download service manual here
To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
Absolutely agree with htc letter, before your post i don't even see this feat, well, i think i should agree with that this window has no any function. Besides i saw off. manual, no-nothing. OK, waiting for another variants of reply.
Fallen Spartan said:
To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
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Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
DTNT said:
Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
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I would just ask HTC directly on their contact site:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx
Looks like something trapped under the screen protector, did you peel it back and check?
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Hi all,
I've now seen two HTC Touch devices with the same "smudge" on the screen. It appears in the centre, underneath the top layer of screen, and is roughly 3cm long. It's almost as if dust has collected in the middle of the screen or something.
I'd have thought nothing of it until I saw another device with the same thing. Has anyone else experienced this? It's not always visible - with the screen off, or in direct sunlight you can see it, but otherwise it's not noticeable.
Anyone?
I have the same **** right in the center of my device
i've the same probleme on my screen
it's very boring
After how long did you begin to see this problem? I have only had my Touch a short amount of time and haven't had this issue but its not great that many people are dealing with it.
Damn, I hope this doesn't turn into another "my black Trinity is peeling" issue that affects all or most Touch users. Why don't you guys run a poll to get an idea how wide spread this is? Perhaps HTC needs to be made aware of this if it's not just some isolated defects.
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Damn, I hope this doesn't turn into another "my black Trinity is peeling" issue that affects all or most Touch users. Why don't you guys run a poll to get an idea how wide spread this is? Perhaps HTC needs to be made aware of this if it's not just some isolated defects.
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I was one of the few that never had paint peeling issue on my black Trinity so hopefully I can dodge this smudge issue too....
I think u will find that it is an inherent part of the hard touch screen. Device off on all touches should display what some call a blur. I have to put mine at an angle and I can see a small 1cm max. aboration. otherwise quite unnoticeable.
Had mine almost 8 weeks and not any hint of any smudge / blur or anything unusual
Guess what, I also have this blur at the center of my screen, I thought nothing of it at first because it is barely noticable and second I thought that maybe I accidently pressed on the screen to hard at one point while carrying in my pocket; However now I am more concerned due to the fact that others have this same issue...??
Same problem with mine.
to all that have the problem. Do you have an original Touch ore a branded version (XDA, MDA etc.)?
Well, i have that little piece of htc touch since about one week, the branded version XDA. don´t got that smudge on my screen, and i hope i never will. ... otherwise i will get it back to the shop and try to get a new one ... have got the experience that O2 (i´m having the htc from that privider in Germany) turned out to be quite nice in such things.
just something that you migh like to consider. Coming from unverified source:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=440676
see post by hamishmacdonald
...Unfortunately, my Touch has developed a patch of fog or dust under the screen, and HTC have confirmed they've had several reported cases of this. They were very helpful on the phone, though, and sound like they're going to be good about getting me a replacement quickly
can someone post a screenshot, that the other users
know, what you are talking about?
thanxs in advance
red.schumi
i see a big patch while starting the device where it says "smart mobility" but after that never noticed it :-/
i will try to take a pic of it ........
are you talking about that submarine or something below smart mobility?
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are you talking about that submarine or something below smart mobility?
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yeah yeah its kinda submarine .....is it same with ur mobile ?? i guess the background they have used is not perfect black :-/
I'll try to get a photo of it tonight. It's basically a smudge that's 2cm high, and half a centimetre wide, right in the centre of the display. It's beneath the external covering on the screen, and almost looks like a neatly arranged collection of dust right in the middle.
I may have someone who can look into this for me, so I'll investigate and post here if anything turns up. It does sound like this is a problem with the device though, and is more widespread than I expected.
rahulkool said:
yeah yeah its kinda submarine .....is it same with ur mobile ?? i guess the background they have used is not perfect black :-/
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Yeah but I only noticed it when soft resetting and when someone posted it here so I looked below the smart mobility text carefully.. haven't noticed it otherwise..
Smudge
I had this problem just days after getting my Touch. I sent it back and got another... I have a smudge again... even though it isnt as bad. I will contact HTC again and see if I can send it back again. Not sure I will have a Touch after sending this one back.
Hi, I recently bought a second-hand universal. It screens seems unstable, like in the movie below:
http://www.fotkatools.eu/universal.avi
Should it be like this?
Or it is broken?
The hinge on the earlier Universals is prone to this, esp. if it has been forced, dropped, etc. If you search this forum you'll find instructions on how you may be able to tighten it again yourself, or alternatively you can see how much a shop in your area wants to do it. I fixed mine by simply undoing the screw on the hinge (on the unit rather than the screen, on the side nearest the power button), bending the metal hinge plate so the ends were closer to the screen part, then reassembing.
See these threads for other suggestions, and do a search yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321454
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284352
hey lordvader123 if you find the answer or instructions how to fix it please post it here coz i have the same prob..i fixed it partial like XTCrefugee but still isnt so stable and still i look for the instruction..i'd take it to shop but last too long
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hey lordvader123 if you find the answer or instructions how to fix it please post it here coz i have the same prob..i fixed it partial like XTCrefugee but still isnt so stable and still i look for the instruction..i'd take it to shop but last too long
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Well, I personally would love to do it without disassembling, but if it's the only way, I'll do this, but just please tell me - is it difficult comparing to other phones?
Just looking at replacing the screen on my blackstone as I've scratched it to buggery, so was perusing ebay and happened to stumble across this little beauty:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/for-HTC-Touch...trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1683|293:1|294:50
Really HAD to share this with the community and see how other people react to the fact the screen on this looks like its made out of paper. In fact one edge is bent in the first picture.
...epic lulz.
Also on a side note, can anyone recommend a method for getting the screen replaced cheaply? I'm tempted to call HTC; I'm well within warranty, having only had the phone for 5 months but I know they're gonna charge me an arm and a leg. I see a lot of digitizers on ebay, but not sure if they include the front screen part which I actually need to get rid of the scratches. Any help would be great!
The seller has nearly 10000 positive feed-back and the screen looks fine to me.
Although how someone who needs a new screen because he does not even use a screen protector can describe someone else as an epic failure is beyond me.
heres the service manual, hope be helpful..
enjoy...
http://mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC_Blackstone_Service_Manual.pdf
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The seller has nearly 10000 positive feed-back and the screen looks fine to me.
Although how someone who needs a new screen because he does not even use a screen protector can describe someone else as an epic failure is beyond me.
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Yes I noticed the seller has a good positive feedback, but don't you think that the fact it looks like it's made of paper is slightly amusing?
And yes, I didn't use a screen protector... sue me. This is why I was asking for help from a knowledgable community; thanks for the flame and a post of non-useful information.
Cheers for the service manual limx, having a flick through now
I could totally be off because I am new to this techie stuff but the listing says "This is Touch Screen (Digitizer) only, LCD Screen is NOT Included"
Yeah, that is just the digitizer, hence why it is "paper" thin. They are supposed to be!
Dodzey
From my experience, it is really hard to change de digitalizer because it is fixed to the screen. And if you force too much, you will break the screen also...
Just buy the kit screen+digitalizer, easier to replace but also more expansive
Hello, my S4 developed some screen issue. I hope the attached picture shows it. It looks like 2 lines developing at the upper right cornet of the screen.
I noticed this about 4 days ago. At that time, there was just one line ( the one which is now longer ), and it was only 1/2 length. In the 4 days, the length doubled, and the second line appeared.
The lines seem to have a certain thickness that does not change when I do the macro shot under different angles, as I would expect to be the case if it was the top glass cracked - I would expect a glass crack to be thin. And I do not feel anything when touching the glass.
Any idea of what this is, and what to expect from Samsung service ? The phone is under warranty, but service here in Czech Republic is generally horrible, and even foreign companies seem to have matched the local service awfulness....
Thanks for any info, Paul.
Difficult to say what it is, but it could be the glue between the digitizer and the display showing (I don't even know if that is possible!), or it could be something else entirely. But it doesn't look like a crack. You can give taking it to the service center a try, but don't be too hopeful I guess!
well, it's sad to see same story happen on someone else. I have the same issue. The good side is it doesn't really affect the view, bad side is, it will keep moving down to center of screen and move and look like some tree, if you keep it in your pocket.
I have the same issue on same place, I never tried to visit a service because it will take 1 week for them to have a look at them and tell me if it's in warranty or not. Probably it's not.
Other bad news is, you just can't simply change the upper part of screen, need to change whole screen part which costs like 200 dollars. That's why I postponed it, don't want to give that much for a screen.
Here is my story, with bad quality photo : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542955
I would be glad if you can update the thread, if you have a chance to visit service and get info about if it's part of warranty or not, and what is the exact issue.
The 6T just arrived yesterday, it felt really good 'cause I was coming from the ages old OnePlus One.
And boom! I had this feeling that the camera on my phone is misplaced. Both rear cameras are not in the centre, they're a bit above the centre.
Could anyone please help here? I just got one friend out here who has a 6T and comparing the two I do see some difference.
Should I care about this misplacement? I'll get a replacement if I report it within 10 days so yeah, do tell me if anyone knows about this and if I should really care and report it or is it not a big deal and just fine. The phone is perfect - those cameras work perfectly, I tested them individually by the tests in *#808# and both work.
Attaching some images of my phone and also one that I found on the internet (which I feel has the same issue?).
I've marked the cam in yellow and the asymmetrical hollow space around it in green.
(It's the 256GB model by the way)
isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
Quick visual assessment of my device appears the bottom camera is up a tiny bit and top is down a little. If I get a chance I'll throw my phone on the metrology imaging device at work and verify if my eyes are playing tricks on me. Regardless I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
Checked mine they are very close to centered as you can see in the picture. The dots in the center of the circle represent the center of each circle. Probably hard to see though.
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isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
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What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with this post
To op;
At first glance I thought you were probably seeing things but after looking at your pics it does seem pretty clear that the camera units are not 'properly' centered in the frame...
It's really up to you as to whether you want to RMA for a replacement. I had to replace mine for different reasons and am glad I did but if they are functioning properly, as you say they are, I might just not bother with replacement.... Definitely weird situation though.
Is it making a drastic difference in the image quality of the photo?
If not, then I wouldn't worry about it.
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isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
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Ah, yes. I know that the 16MP camera above the flash does move 'cause of OIS but I've seen the top one exactly centred on other phones. Looking more precisely, I saw that the rest position of both the cameras is a bit above the centre (of course both, because they're mounted on one board).
bladestonez said:
Quick visual assessment of my device appears the bottom camera is up a tiny bit and top is down a little. If I get a chance I'll throw my phone on the metrology imaging device at work and verify if my eyes are playing tricks on me. Regardless I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
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Haha, thanks. Appreciate your help!
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Checked mine they are very close to centered as you can see in the picture. The dots in the center of the circle represent the center of each circle. Probably hard to see though.
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OMG you really did some work on this! Thank you so much. I can see the dots and that's the same problem as mine. The difference is that your error is very, very less as compared to mine. Any problems with the cam so far?
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To op;
At first glance I thought you were probably seeing things but after looking at your pics it does seem pretty clear that the camera units are not 'properly' centered in the frame...
It's really up to you as to whether you want to RMA for a replacement. I had to replace mine for different reasons and am glad I did but if they are functioning properly, as you say they are, I might just not bother with replacement.... Definitely weird situation though.
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Hey, thanks for looking into it. Would you recommend any sort of check for testing the secondary cam functionality? It's just day 2 for me so I'm sure I haven't digged in the phone as much as you have.
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Is it making a drastic difference in the image quality of the photo?
If not, then I wouldn't worry about it.
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There's absolutely no change in the image quality. The cameras are not broken or anything, just misplaced.
It's just that this being my most expensive smartphone yet, I was a bit concerned. Thanks!
I guess I forget about this now until someone really points some unknown fact about this. Before Valentine's day!
Paresh Kalinani said:
OMG you really did some work on this! Thank you so much. I can see the dots and that's the same problem as mine. The difference is that your error is very, very less as compared to mine. Any problems with the cam so far?
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It's a really fancy measuring device I have at work took about a minute to whip up so no big deal at all. And no I have not noticed any issues at all. I get great quality photos and video. If you aren't experiencing problems I would guess your fine but it's your device so your call
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The 6T just arrived yesterday, it felt really good 'cause I was coming from the ages old OnePlus One.
And boom! I had this feeling that the camera on my phone is misplaced. Both rear cameras are not in the centre, they're a bit above the centre.
Could anyone please help here? I just got one friend out here who has a 6T and comparing the two I do see some difference.
Should I care about this misplacement? I'll get a replacement if I report it within 10 days so yeah, do tell me if anyone knows about this and if I should really care and report it or is it not a big deal and just fine. The phone is perfect - those cameras work perfectly, I tested them individually by the tests in *#808# and both work.
Attaching some images of my phone and also one that I found on the internet (which I feel has the same issue?).
I've marked the cam in yellow and the asymmetrical hollow space around it in green.
(It's the 256GB model by the way)
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@Paresh Kalinani please update this post with the solution you came up.
Thanks!
It's all good.
rsmarx said:
@Paresh Kalinani please update this post with the solution you came up.
Thanks!
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I showed it to multiple local repairers and all of them suggested to not go for replacement if I had to use the phone for important things, back then. I spent a lot of time testing both the cameras at the back thoroughly and they had no problem at all. I didn't do anything! I did not get it replaced. I can still see my cameras are misplaced but there's no issue at all. Top class photos and videos, used a lot.
So I can close this with : If you're concerned about your camera's positioning, go get your device replaced. If you're concerned about it's functioning, don't. They're 100% fine. :good: