So I just bought a verizon LG v20 which has 8.0.0 on it. Simple question. Can I still downgrade using upercut and LGUP and then use dirty santa. I found the correct Firmware on lg-drivers and have it all ready and set. Some posts are saying that you can some people say you can't downgrade. I am just trying to figure out which is right. YES I searched multiple posts...
1. Can I downgrade when the phone arrives?
2. Can I still use dirty santa when I downgrade?
3. Why do some say patched and some say not? Is that because some models firmware are non-downgradeable?
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stevieshae said:
So I just bought a verizon LG v20 which has 8.0.0 on it. Simple question. Can I still downgrade using upercut and LGUP and then use dirty santa. I found the correct Firmware on lg-drivers and have it all ready and set. Some posts are saying that you can some people say you can't downgrade. I am just trying to figure out which is right. YES I searched multiple posts...
1. Can I downgrade when the phone arrives?
2. Can I still use dirty santa when I downgrade?
3. Why do some say patched and some say not? Is that because some models firmware are non-downgradeable?
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Yes you can downgrade, probably only need to use the regular LG up, downgrade to a security patch prior to Dec 2016, follow the dirty santa instructions, flash updated twrp, within twrp standard wipe, format data, flash rom, flash magisk
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Yes you can downgrade, probably only need to use the regular LG up, downgrade to a security patch prior to Dec 2016, follow the dirty santa instructions, flash updated twrp, within twrp standard wipe, format data, flash rom, flash magisk
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Its that easy?
Yes. But I'll suggest before hand updating to the firmware version of your choice, and dumping it with LGUP (same tool you use to flash firmware packages). There's a lack of flashable stock ROMs for the v20 variants, so you'll be stuck on an ancient firmware version after rooting. Once you've flashed the DirtySanta engineering bootloader, you can flash back part of the dump (minus aboot and recovery), allowing you to keep TWRP/Engineering Bootloader while still having the system version of your choice.
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Yes. But I'll suggest before hand updating to the firmware version of your choice, and dumping it with LGUP (same tool you use to flash firmware packages). There's a lack of flashable stock ROMs for the v20 variants, so you'll be stuck on an ancient firmware version after rooting. Once you've flashed the DirtySanta engineering bootloader, you can flash back part of the dump (minus aboot and recovery), allowing you to keep TWRP/Engineering Bootloader while still having the system version of your choice.
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Not necessarily true as the majority of the updated stock custom build roms flash full firmware
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Not necessarily true as the majority of the updated stock custom build roms flash full firmware
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Yea, but those updated stock custom build also pack a bunch of other crap you may or may not want. Its much better to start from fresh, do your own debloating, then pick and choose what you want. There's also the side benefit of not having to deal with AFH's godawful download speed. The VS995 has stock KDZ so restoring from stock isn't a big problem, but having your own dump on hand let you get back to the latest (or close to latest) system update and skip 2-3gb of OTAs
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Yea, but those updated stock custom build also pack a bunch of other crap you may or may not want. Its much better to start from fresh, do your own debloating, then pick and choose what you want. There's also the side benefit of not having to deal with AFH's godawful download speed. The VS995 has stock KDZ so restoring from stock isn't a big problem, but having your own dump on hand let you get back to the latest (or close to latest) system update and skip 2-3gb of OTAs
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I just want a rom like Lineage OS or something that allows custom sets for my device. I am getting confused? just flash this rom with lg up, then use dirty santa, then install the rom correct? I haven't rooted since my nexus 6p since vzw locks the pixel and pixel 2 xl bootloaders -_- ... attached a screenshot of the rom.. its got 3k downloads and is marked 2016-12-24 3691(downloads) SO I assume I flash this first. then do the dirtsanta exploit? My last question is how do I install roms with these newer devices? Do I format everything(I got an sd card) and just keep the sd card clean? Would love some info!
Heres the link to the screenshot I tried adding. https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs995-firmwares/#tab=firmwares
Need some help, can't get root or super su to work. keeps saying device not rooted. after flashing stock twice. and redoing dirty santa. Here is the forum post to reduce spam.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/v20-dirty-santa-help-t3897601
stevieshae said:
Need some help, can't get root or super su to work. keeps saying device not rooted. after flashing stock twice. and redoing dirty santa. Here is the forum post to reduce spam.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/v20-dirty-santa-help-t3897601
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You have to install Magisk/SuperSu to keep TWRP, otherwise the system will replace it with stock recovery everytime it boots. If you already have the Engineering Bootloader installed by following DirtySanta up to Step 3, just reboot into fastboot (hold volume down while phone is off, plug cable) and reflash TWRP with fastboot.
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It's been quite a while since I've last installed custom roms and now that I have the G2 I just want to make sure the process I have in my head is correct in order to run [ROM] Verizon Stock Rooted OTA Debloated VS98012B [12/26/13]
Stock rom > Root > install latest TWRP/CWM > wipe cache / dalvik > flash rom = much success?
If i'm flashing the 12B rom on top of the stock 11A - is there anything beside the rom I have to flash? Modem? Gapps?
that will work
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It's been quite a while since I've last installed custom roms and now that I have the G2 I just want to make sure the process I have in my head is correct in order to run [ROM] Verizon Stock Rooted OTA Debloated VS98012B [12/26/13]
Stock rom > Root > install latest TWRP/CWM > wipe cache / dalvik > flash rom = much success?
If i'm flashing the 12B rom on top of the stock 11A - is there anything beside the rom I have to flash? Modem? Gapps?
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looks like thats all you need to do
good luck
sharkares said:
looks like thats all you need to do
good luck
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No offense to you at all sharkares but hopefully someone else could also confirm. Not saying that your post count at 2 makes you untrustworthy but I've been burned by a similar situation in the past. Can anyone else confirm?
losnok said:
No offense to you at all sharkares but hopefully someone else could also confirm. Not saying that your post count at 2 makes you untrustworthy but I've been burned by a similar situation in the past. Can anyone else confirm?
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its alright
im a newbew to this forum.
i just upgrade my G2 F320S from 10k to 20a to make myself sure.
10k rooted -> flashed CWM 6.0.3.x -> added F320S rom file(zip) and supersu.zip to /sdcard/ -> boot with recovery -> flash rom -> wipe cache -> flash supersu.zip -> reboot and tada!
once again, good luck
sharkares said:
its alright
im a newbew to this forum.
i just upgrade my G2 F320S from 10k to 20a to make myself sure.
10k rooted -> flashed CWM 6.0.3.x -> added F320S rom file(zip) and supersu.zip to /sdcard/ -> boot with recovery -> flash rom -> wipe cache -> flash supersu.zip -> reboot and tada!
once again, good luck
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Actually that reply helps. Thanks
Sounds like thats all you need how did you flash your rom with out a custom recovery? You can also do this method link to follow
Well... hmph. I totally blew it and accidentally updated to 12B before rooting. Wasn't paying attention to prompts. I'm pretty sure I saw a method for rooting from 12B, now I have to try and find that method again.
Possible downgrade ill try to find a link and post it for you up here
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Well... hmph. I totally blew it and accidentally updated to 12B before rooting. Wasn't paying attention to prompts. I'm pretty sure I saw a method for rooting from 12B, now I have to try and find that method again.
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Oh and I tried factory reset which I thought would revert me from 12B to 11A (which would be factory but I guess the OTA stays applied?)
Is there a was of reverting back to 12B to 11A while non rooted and no custom recovery installed?
If you follow this it should work pages 84 should have how to root the 12b
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887 sorry forgot to paste link
tbishop91 said:
If you follow this it should work pages 84 should have how to root the 12b
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thank you sir. I'll give it a shot.
Well, that thread led me to believe that 12B could be rooted with 2.11.1 driver and ioroot16. Unfortunately my device is being listed as offline under command prompt for adb devices.
Make sure your adb version is correct pls also plug it in and see if it is showing up on your device manager in windiws if thats what os you are using
tbishop91 said:
Make sure your adb version is correct pls also plug it in and see if it is showing up on your device manager in windiws if thats what os you are using
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I'm not sure why but after trying the same process a couple times it started working, weird.
Ive heard of a lot of using using adb commands so im not too surprised but your phone is back where you need it to be now right?
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It's been quite a while since I've last installed custom roms and now that I have the G2 I just want to make sure the process I have in my head is correct in order to run [ROM] Verizon Stock Rooted OTA Debloated VS98012B [12/26/13]
Stock rom > Root > install latest TWRP/CWM > wipe cache / dalvik > flash rom = much success?
If i'm flashing the 12B rom on top of the stock 11A - is there anything beside the rom I have to flash? Modem? Gapps?
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No idea about flashing a 12b ROM over an 11a ota, but I would think it would be fine.
You can flash the 12b modem just to do it, the only issue would be rooting a 12b ota. Not many of the devs have started patching their Roms to work with the 12b ota
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losnok said:
Well, that thread led me to believe that 12B could be rooted with 2.11.1 driver and ioroot16. Unfortunately my device is being listed as offline under command prompt for adb devices.
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You need to use a .lok file patched for 12b of you are on the vs980 datechnerd has made the .lok image and twrp 2.6.3.3 and .4 for 12 b, but unless you want issues you're better off not taking the ota. As I posted above. Not many people are patching for 12b yet.
You can flash the modem fine and flash Roms but the actual ota will give you probs.
I used the flash tool to go back to 10b then rooted and flashed the 12b radio
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Lawlrus said:
No idea about flashing a 12b ROM over an 11a ota, but I would think it would be fine.
You can flash the 12b modem just to do it, the only issue would be rooting a 12b ota. Not many of the devs have started patching their Roms to work with the 12b ota
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You need to use a .lok file patched for 12b of you are on the vs980 datechnerd has made the .lok image and twrp 2.6.3.3 and .4 for 12 b, but unless you want issues you're better off not taking the ota. As I posted above. Not many people are patching for 12b yet.
You can flash the modem fine and flash Roms but the actual ota will give you probs.
I used the flash tool to go back to 10b then rooted and flashed the 12b radio
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Thanks Lawlrus.
So my situation is this: Stock > OTA to 12B. Rooted on 12B and have yet to install recovery. I want to flash :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586379
I was reading the thread about installing custom recoveries on 12B but it seems like its very difficult to get the actual roms to flash from 12B.
So, would I be better off installing the recovery on 12B and then reverting back to 11A or 10B and then flashing the debloated rom on top of that? As far as I can tell that would be the most successful way of doing things? And if I do revert back, do I have to reroot and then flash?
losnok said:
Thanks Lawlrus.
So my situation is this: Stock > OTA to 12B. Rooted on 12B and have yet to install recovery. I want to flash :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586379
I was reading the thread about installing custom recoveries on 12B but it seems like its very difficult to get the actual roms to flash from 12B.
So, would I be better off installing the recovery on 12B and then reverting back to 11A or 10B and then flashing the debloated rom on top of that? As far as I can tell that would be the most successful way of doing things? And if I do revert back, do I have to reroot and then flash?
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Disregard, going to post in the thread about recoveries for 12B.
Hi Friends,
I am currently on rooted NK7 which i did I guess around an year back.
I know I am stuck on Kitkat and may have been missing a few important security updates (stagefright for sure I guess).
The main reason I am still stuck with KK is I just love Xposed, particularly xprivacy... can't live without that.
I am trying to go to all the current threads but its a bit confusion on trying to figure out what the latest ROM I can upgrade to that will allow me to keep using Xposed f/w.
I have safestrap installed on my S5 and I guess that is how I rooted back then.
Could someone take a few mins to help me provide instructions on how to do that?
TIA.
androidjim said:
Hi Friends,
I am currently on rooted NK7 which i did I guess around an year back.
I know I am stuck on Kitkat and may have been missing a few important security updates (stagefright for sure I guess).
The main reason I am still stuck with KK is I just love Xposed, particularly xprivacy... can't live without that.
I am trying to go to all the current threads but its a bit confusion on trying to figure out what the latest ROM I can upgrade to that will allow me to keep using Xposed f/w.
I have safestrap installed on my S5 and I guess that is how I rooted back then.
Could someone take a few mins to help me provide instructions on how to do that?
TIA
This Thread is in the General forum. Read this and I believe it'll help guide you through of what you're looking for.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-verizon-s5-nk7-build-t3296077
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This Thread is in the General forum. Read this and I believe it'll help guide you through of what you're looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...build-t3296077
There's a SafeStrap that works with Lollipop, but not directly. You need to flash a Kitkat kernel in order to boot into Safestrap from Lollipop, then flash the Lollipop kernel from within SafeStrap in order to boot back into Lollipop. It makes more sense when you do it.
You should be able to use Xposed with any de-odexed ROM, but it can have slightly unpredictable results.
al50 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-verizon-s5-nk7-build-t3296077
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This Thread is in the General forum. Read this and I believe it'll help guide you through of what you're looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...build-t3296077
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Thanks al50 for the link, but wanted to say again that I am already rooted and on NK7.
I am trying to find steps to move to Lollipop from NK7.
painiac said:
There's a SafeStrap that works with Lollipop, but not directly. You need to flash a Kitkat kernel in order to boot into Safestrap from Lollipop, then flash the Lollipop kernel from within SafeStrap in order to boot back into Lollipop. It makes more sense when you do it.
You should be able to use Xposed with any de-odexed ROM, but it can have slightly unpredictable results.
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Given that I am on NK7 I assume I am already on Kitkat kernel, is that right?
So, I guess here is what you are saying:
1. Go into safestrap and flash Lollipop kernel (from jkruse's thread I guess?)
2. Once kernel is flashed, reboot back into safestrap and then install one of the firmwares listed on the same post?
I guess step 0. would have been to download and save the kernel and firmware files on my sd card to be used in safestrap.
Also, if I am already rooted on NK7, can I jump to any of the kernels/firmwares (roms?) in the list of I have to step through them?
TIA
androidjim said:
Thanks al50 for the link, but wanted to say again that I am already rooted and on NK7.
I am trying to find steps to move to Lollipop from NK7.
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My apologies. Misread your post. Basically you do what's in the links to get back to NCG and (what I've done) is flash one of Muniz_ri 'How to Upgrade' ROM'S and go from there. Once I flashed back to NCG and enabled Root and had a GPS lock, i then flashed his (Muniz_ri) OC4 ROM and I've been on ROM's since and with Xposed. ..
You're already rooted on NK7, so you have two options since there is now a root method for Lollipop.
You can either do the NCG "keep root" upgrade method that al50 is referring to, or you can just jump right to BOK3 and use the new root method.
Personally, I might be inclined to go the safer route and try the "keep root" method first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
If you decide to use the new method, you're going to have to use Odin software on your computer to flash the entire BOK3 image from scratch. If you don't start with a fresh install, the root process is less likely to succeed for some re.ason.
I am still on NK7 myself. I am opting to flash the BOK3 image that still has the BOD5 bootloader, because BOD5 is the last version that is able to be downgraded back to kitkat. This is not necessary, but I am averse to burning bridges. If you'd like to go this route, download the full image from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/g900vvru2bog5-factoryodintarimage-t3179527
If not, just download the BOK3 full factory image. Regardless, read jrkruse's thread on the new boot method carefully and thoroughly before you start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
And no matter what, if you flash a BOE1, BOG5, or BOK3 bootloader, do not under any circumstances attempt to flash an older bootloader over it or you will brick.
My phone is unlocked and rooted. It wants to download the OTA but I know that Motorola says on their site you will have problems with the OTA. Should I download it or Should I flash a ROM.
mongoose96 said:
My phone is unlocked and rooted. It wants to download the OTA but I know that Motorola says on their site you will have problems with the OTA. Should I download it or Should I flash a ROM.
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You must be PURE stock to take an OTA update, or it will fail and bootloop... Flash a rom if you wish.
What i did was make a back up of everything just incase and then look up the ota version on your phone and get it in the rom section and look up twrp flashable OTAs and just flash it. you might lose root but its easy to get back if you flash magisk again.
You can found the right guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/guide-complex-ota-update-magisk-rooted-t3688175
does anyone have fastboot stock rom?
siddhesh9146 said:
does anyone have fastboot stock rom?
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Of the current version? lol, no, we wish... we are averaging 3-6 months behind OTA releases for full ROM images, if we get them at all. Moto does not officially provide them, so they have to be leaked somehow, and sources are completely dried up yet, but it's getting there. :/
Hi. Can I get Oreo Ota for mi xt1670 with rooted device but locked BL? I'm on stock everything. Thanks.
mortadelax said:
Hi. Can I get Oreo Ota for mi xt1670 with rooted device but locked BL? I'm on stock everything. Thanks.
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You can't be rooted with a locked bootloader so your question is obsolete.
You can apply to OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
You can't if you're rooted or changed anything else in /system or /vendor.
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Wolfcity said:
You can't be rooted with a locked bootloader so your question is obsolete.
You can apply to OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
You can't if you're rooted or changed anything else in /system or /vendor.
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Thanks for the reply. Very clear! Please I need more help. The thing is...I don't want the oreo ota right now. This is my mother's phone so I don't want any problem. Nougat is just fine for now. So I need to stop the upgrade notification spam. I believe I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the upgrader app. Is that correct? I can't force stop the app. That's for now.
I've read bad reviews about oreo battery drain and other stuff. That's why I'm trying to avoid it.
If someday I want it, maybe will install some rom.
Thanks bro.
EDIT. Does this make sense? Or should I stay stock everything and take the ota/ignore the spam everyday?
EDIT 2. Another question. What happen if I take the oreo ota, and i don't like it. Can I unlock BL, root, install some nougat rom, as a pseudo downgrade?
mortadelax said:
Thanks for the reply. Very clear! Please I need more help. The thing is...I don't want the oreo ota right now. This is my mother's phone so I don't want any problem. Nougat is just fine for now. So I need to stop the upgrade notification spam. I believe I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the upgrader app. Is that correct? I can't force stop the app. That's for now.
I've read bad reviews about oreo battery drain and other stuff. That's why I'm trying to avoid it.
If someday I want it, maybe will install some rom.
Thanks bro.
EDIT. Does this make sense? Or should I stay stock everything and take the ota/ignore the spam everyday?
EDIT 2. Another question. What happen if I take the oreo ota, and i don't like it. Can I unlock BL, root, install some nougat rom, as a pseudo downgrade?
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Oreo ist absolutely fine, no problems with it.
I haven't heard of any issues like increased battery drain, for me nothing changed at all regarding battery and the rest is also working flawlessly.
It would be a lot of action to unlock and root the device just to stop the updater service.
If you don't have any other plans that need root privileges I recommend just taking the OTA (s).
If you want to run another ROM later you can always unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, root the device and install any kind of custom ROM, Nougat, Oreo or Pie. There are also TWRP flashable stock firmwares which make it easy to move between different stock versions.
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Wolfcity said:
If you want to run another ROM later you can always unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, root the device and install any kind of custom ROM, Nougat, Oreo or Pie. There are also TWRP flashable stock firmwares which make it easy to move between different stock versions.
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That's good. A pseudo downgrade is possible. Thanks man. I'll think about it. And yes, the root privileges is just for stopping the updater.
Cheers
EDIT. Man, are you sure about this? Taking the Oreo Ota, and in the future unlock BL, root and install whatever rom?
mortadelax said:
That's good. A pseudo downgrade is possible. Thanks man. I'll think about it. And yes, the root privileges is just for stopping the updater.
Cheers
EDIT. Man, are you sure about this? Taking the Oreo Ota, and in the future unlock BL, root and install whatever rom?
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Yes I am.
Just check some of the custom ROM threads, there are some that need stock Nougat as base but the most of them need Oreo. For custom ROMs there are no up/downgrading problems, that's only the case for stock firmwares.
And as said above, there are TWRP flashable stock builds that doesn't have these problems too and will bring you to whatever stock firmware you want, not just pseudo. (Here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482 )
So if you're on stock Oreo after unlocking the bootloader and flashing TWRP all options are open for you. Just don't forget to make a full nandroid backup incl. EFS and persist before you flash anything.
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Has anyone tried upgrading a rooted LG H91810j to H91810p? Did you still have root afterward? What about TWRP? I am concerned about losing root and losing the ability to roll back because of their "anti-rollback" mechanism in 10p.
Optional back story, for the curious:
I bought a refurbished LG V20 that was running software version H91810k out of the box. I immediately tried to root it with dirtycow, but dirtycow does not work on 10k. So I downgraded to 10j from 10k using LGUP, and then successfully rooted the phone with dirtycow. I then installed TWRP and then LineageOS.
Unfortunately, I just don't feel like LineageOS is where it needs to be for me on the V20. I lost a number of features, such as (1) the second display, (2) ability to use BOTH cameras on the rear, (3) quad hi-fi DAC for superior audio, (4) automatic wake/sleep when opening and closing my phone case, (5) encryption (!!!!).
I feel like there are just to many things missing, so I think I want to go back to the stock ROM, but I would like to stay rooted so I can at least get rid of the bloatware. Is this possible or am I going to lose root and TWRP via one of LG's updates?
You can keep root on stock rom but flash one thats 10k if you flash one that's 10p and you wouldn't be able to back to anything pass
10p. Weta has a 10k version look in there thread for details and instructions
ki11aprime said:
You can keep root on stock rom but flash one thats 10k if you flash one that's 10p and you wouldn't be able to back to anything pass
10p. Weta has a 10k version look in there thread for details and instructions
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I understand not being able to rollback/downgrade after hitting 10p, but let's just say I decided to upgrade to 10p+ anyway. Would I still have root and twrp?
fronzee88 said:
I understand not being able to rollback/downgrade after hitting 10p, but let's just say I decided to upgrade to 10p+ anyway. Would I still have root and twrp?
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Yea once you're rooted and flash a custom rom I'm on alpha rom
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Yea once you're rooted and flash a custom rom I'm on alpha rom
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Right, but I'm talking about being rooted without a custom ROM, i.e. running the stock ROM while rooted and having TWRP. Can I upgrade to 10p and beyond, and at least keep root/twrp, even if I can't roll back or install anything else?
fronzee88 said:
Right, but I'm talking about being rooted without a custom ROM, i.e. running the stock ROM while rooted and having TWRP. Can I upgrade to 10p and beyond, and at least keep root/twrp, even if I can't roll back or install anything else?
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What firmware are you no right now
1)Get 10i root it install twrp
2) there's a flashable 10r somewhere don't have the link right now put download and flash via twrp 10r is the newest update I believe.
ki11aprime said:
What firmware are you no right now
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Technically I'm running LineageOS (14.1-20171226-NIGHTLY-h918) but I want to go back to stock rom WITH root/twrp, because I lost a lot of features like second display, dual-rear-camera, quad hi-fi DAC, encryption (etc). I just don't think LineageOS is ready for this particular phone, for me. I am planning to revert to stock rom H91810j (re-root if necessary) and then upgrade to the latest stock rom, if I won't lose root that is.
ki11aprime said:
What firmware are you no right now
1)Get 10i root it install twrp
2) there's a flashable 10r somewhere don't have the link right now put download and flash via twrp 10r is the newest update I believe.
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Just saw your edit. So it sounds like the best way to upgrade is to flash it via TWRP rather than install it via the OTA updates? Can you (or anyone else) confirm it stays rooted when done this way?
fronzee88 said:
Just saw your edit. So it sounds like the best way to upgrade is to flash it via TWRP rather than install it via the OTA updates? Can you (or anyone else) confirm it stays rooted when done this way?
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Yes update via twrp, you keep root
You upgrade past 10k and you lose the ability to ever root your phone again in case you screw up and have to flash a KDZ.
Your choice.....
-- Brian
I have been rocking 10k just fine. There is support for a custom stock kernel. Personally, upgrading to 10r is not worth the risk, especially since there is nothing really new besides sercurity patches.
Well, I ended up flashing H91810r as per this thread and I am happy to confirm I still have root. Just thought I would post this for anyone wondering the same thing. Now I just have to remember to only update by flashing via TWRP, moving forward.
Pretty much just like everyone else here has said, always update via twrp. Never take the ota update when you're rooted. And didnt you make a backup? Why not just flash back to your original stock rooted room?
You mean we can flash Oreo 8.0 kdz and still have root intact?
lamepsycho said:
You mean wecan flash Oreo 8.0 kdz and still have root intact?
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Read the posts, NO. Flash a zip from a thread for your variant that's labeled as twrp flashable.
I have a US XT1687 on LineageOS (2017-09-19 build), and I would like to flash the latest stock firmware (which I believe is the April NPNS25.137-93-10 update), while also continuing to receive future OTA updates
The fastboot stock firmware thread was closed.
I found these files https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/ but I don't see the 93-10 update.
Can I flash the 93-4 update from that site via fastboot and then get the 93-10 update via OTA?
Thanks!
I believe it depends on what bootloader version you were on before. If you were on 93-4 or earlier, then theoretically you should be fine. If you were on the 93-10 version of the bootloader and attempted to flash to the 93-4 stock rom, and then take an OTA from there, you are very likely going to hard-brick your device.
There are a lot of active threads about flashing back to stock and losing IMEI and enhanced LTE, so I wouldn't risk it. Out of curiosity why would you want to flash back to stock Nougat? IMO the camera is worse and you're rolling back to an older OS.
dunderball said:
I believe it depends on what bootloader version you were on before. If you were on 93-4 or earlier, then theoretically you should be fine. If you were on the 93-10 version of the bootloader and attempted to flash to the 93-4 stock rom, and then take an OTA from there, you are very likely going to hard-brick your device.
There are a lot of active threads about flashing back to stock and losing IMEI and enhanced LTE, so I wouldn't risk it. Out of curiosity why would you want to flash back to stock Nougat? IMO the camera is worse and you're rolling back to an older OS.
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I'm actually still on Nougat. The last time I flashed a new ROM was back in September (the LineageOS build I'm using is from 2017-09-19). So my bootloader is likely whatever the latest one was around that time.
From what I read, it seemed like people were losing their IMEI and VoLTE after flashing 8.1 custom ROMs, which I haven't done, so I figured I was safe. Maybe I'm misunderstanding?
Yousie642 said:
I'm actually still on Nougat. The last time I flashed a new ROM was back in September (the LineageOS build I'm using is from 2017-09-19). So my bootloader is likely whatever the latest one was around that time.
From what I read, it seemed like people were losing their IMEI and VoLTE after flashing 8.1 custom ROMs, which I haven't done, so I figured I was safe. Maybe I'm misunderstanding?
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Ah I wasn't aware that you were on a nougat version of LOS. I would still back up all partitions just in case.
dunderball said:
Ah I wasn't aware that you were on a nougat version of LOS. I would still back up all partitions just in case.
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Is that different from doing a NAND backup in TWRP?
Yousie642 said:
Is that different from doing a NAND backup in TWRP?
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Nope it's the same.
Yousie642 said:
I have a US XT1687 on LineageOS (2017-09-19 build), and I would like to flash the latest stock firmware (which I believe is the April NPNS25.137-93-10 update), while also continuing to receive future OTA updates
The fastboot stock firmware thread was closed.
I found these files https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/ but I don't see the 93-10 update.
Can I flash the 93-4 update from that site via fastboot and then get the 93-10 update via OTA?
Thanks!
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Here's a mirror of the 93-10 firmware, it can be found in this thread.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Bfp3nVfvKMURAeKagOaOImX-lvJrYBF/view?usp=drivesdk
The source is the Motorola secure cloud but not everyone was able to download it from there.
If you changed to a custom rom in September 2017 you should have been on August security patch which is the firmware NPNS25.137-33-11.
But you should be good to go with 93-10.
As written above make sure to have a full nandroid, especially of EFS.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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Nope it's the same.
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Wolfcity said:
Here's a mirror of the 93-10 firmware, it can be found in this thread.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Bfp3nVfvKMURAeKagOaOImX-lvJrYBF/view?usp=drivesdk
The source is the Motorola secure cloud but not everyone was able to download it from there.
If you changed to a custom rom in September 2017 you should have been on August security patch which is the firmware NPNS25.137-33-11.
But you should be good to go with 93-10.
As written above make sure to have a full nandroid, especially of EFS.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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Thanks dudes! I actually found my old adb folder and saw I had the files for NPN25.137-83 extracted there, so I'm pretty sure that's what I'm on. Seems like it still won't be an issue though.
What I am worried about now is losing VoLTE if I ever decide to go back to a custom ROM. Though, from what I understand, as long as I have an EFS backup, I can fix it. Is that right?
Yep you should be fine. I didn't have issues when going from stock to custom. Still -- I'd try out an Oreo rom before jumping back to stock.
dunderball said:
Yep you should be fine. I didn't have issues when going from stock to custom. Still -- I'd try out an Oreo rom before jumping back to stock.
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Y'know, it didn't actually occur to me, and this may be a silly question, but now I'm wondering if there's actually any need to run a stock firmware update before going to newer custom ROMs? The reason I ask is because this was a thing with my Nexus 5x. Newer LineageOS builds sometimes needed a bootloader and radio update.