My phone is unlocked and rooted. It wants to download the OTA but I know that Motorola says on their site you will have problems with the OTA. Should I download it or Should I flash a ROM.
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My phone is unlocked and rooted. It wants to download the OTA but I know that Motorola says on their site you will have problems with the OTA. Should I download it or Should I flash a ROM.
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You must be PURE stock to take an OTA update, or it will fail and bootloop... Flash a rom if you wish.
What i did was make a back up of everything just incase and then look up the ota version on your phone and get it in the rom section and look up twrp flashable OTAs and just flash it. you might lose root but its easy to get back if you flash magisk again.
You can found the right guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/guide-complex-ota-update-magisk-rooted-t3688175
does anyone have fastboot stock rom?
siddhesh9146 said:
does anyone have fastboot stock rom?
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Of the current version? lol, no, we wish... we are averaging 3-6 months behind OTA releases for full ROM images, if we get them at all. Moto does not officially provide them, so they have to be leaked somehow, and sources are completely dried up yet, but it's getting there. :/
Hi. Can I get Oreo Ota for mi xt1670 with rooted device but locked BL? I'm on stock everything. Thanks.
mortadelax said:
Hi. Can I get Oreo Ota for mi xt1670 with rooted device but locked BL? I'm on stock everything. Thanks.
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You can't be rooted with a locked bootloader so your question is obsolete.
You can apply to OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
You can't if you're rooted or changed anything else in /system or /vendor.
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Wolfcity said:
You can't be rooted with a locked bootloader so your question is obsolete.
You can apply to OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
You can't if you're rooted or changed anything else in /system or /vendor.
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Thanks for the reply. Very clear! Please I need more help. The thing is...I don't want the oreo ota right now. This is my mother's phone so I don't want any problem. Nougat is just fine for now. So I need to stop the upgrade notification spam. I believe I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the upgrader app. Is that correct? I can't force stop the app. That's for now.
I've read bad reviews about oreo battery drain and other stuff. That's why I'm trying to avoid it.
If someday I want it, maybe will install some rom.
Thanks bro.
EDIT. Does this make sense? Or should I stay stock everything and take the ota/ignore the spam everyday?
EDIT 2. Another question. What happen if I take the oreo ota, and i don't like it. Can I unlock BL, root, install some nougat rom, as a pseudo downgrade?
mortadelax said:
Thanks for the reply. Very clear! Please I need more help. The thing is...I don't want the oreo ota right now. This is my mother's phone so I don't want any problem. Nougat is just fine for now. So I need to stop the upgrade notification spam. I believe I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the upgrader app. Is that correct? I can't force stop the app. That's for now.
I've read bad reviews about oreo battery drain and other stuff. That's why I'm trying to avoid it.
If someday I want it, maybe will install some rom.
Thanks bro.
EDIT. Does this make sense? Or should I stay stock everything and take the ota/ignore the spam everyday?
EDIT 2. Another question. What happen if I take the oreo ota, and i don't like it. Can I unlock BL, root, install some nougat rom, as a pseudo downgrade?
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Oreo ist absolutely fine, no problems with it.
I haven't heard of any issues like increased battery drain, for me nothing changed at all regarding battery and the rest is also working flawlessly.
It would be a lot of action to unlock and root the device just to stop the updater service.
If you don't have any other plans that need root privileges I recommend just taking the OTA (s).
If you want to run another ROM later you can always unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, root the device and install any kind of custom ROM, Nougat, Oreo or Pie. There are also TWRP flashable stock firmwares which make it easy to move between different stock versions.
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If you want to run another ROM later you can always unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, root the device and install any kind of custom ROM, Nougat, Oreo or Pie. There are also TWRP flashable stock firmwares which make it easy to move between different stock versions.
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That's good. A pseudo downgrade is possible. Thanks man. I'll think about it. And yes, the root privileges is just for stopping the updater.
Cheers
EDIT. Man, are you sure about this? Taking the Oreo Ota, and in the future unlock BL, root and install whatever rom?
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That's good. A pseudo downgrade is possible. Thanks man. I'll think about it. And yes, the root privileges is just for stopping the updater.
Cheers
EDIT. Man, are you sure about this? Taking the Oreo Ota, and in the future unlock BL, root and install whatever rom?
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Yes I am.
Just check some of the custom ROM threads, there are some that need stock Nougat as base but the most of them need Oreo. For custom ROMs there are no up/downgrading problems, that's only the case for stock firmwares.
And as said above, there are TWRP flashable stock builds that doesn't have these problems too and will bring you to whatever stock firmware you want, not just pseudo. (Here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482 )
So if you're on stock Oreo after unlocking the bootloader and flashing TWRP all options are open for you. Just don't forget to make a full nandroid backup incl. EFS and persist before you flash anything.
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Just wanted to let you guys know that the 5.1 OTA is rolling out as we speak. My girl's got a German Moto X, and received the OTA today!
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15.
And here I am waiting for it with my Dutch Retail.en.EU version..
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Just wanted to let you guys know that the 5.1 OTA is rolling out as we speak. My girl's got a German Moto X, and received the OTA today!
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15.
And here I am waiting for it with my Dutch Retail.en.EU version..
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Can you look to list of languages? Has this OTA Ukrainian language (Українська)?
Unfortunately it doesn't include Ukrainian localization.
Anyone knows where to get this Ota in a rsd lite flashable form?
When we got OTA zip file, then we do RSD one )
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She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15
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Any possibility to get OTA zip?
johnrangoo said:
Anyone knows where to get this Ota in a rsd lite flashable form?
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you can't flash the OTA via RSDLite.
Someone could try updating via Motorola Device Manager on their PC, and see if an FXZ/SBF comes down that can be captured.
Or if someone who is rooted can download, but not apply the OTA, they can grab the OTA ZIP file from their /cache folder... then you could follow the Side Load instructions from -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-return-to-stock-recovery-rooted-t3027079
That being said.. if this is a SOAK being performed, it shouldn't be long until it starts being pushed to all users of that model. Of course it will come in waves, so once the official push to that model comes, it may take up to a week until it hits all phones.
And anyone who takes part in the MFN tests would be violating the NDA they signed to take part, if they leak the file. Moto got the links to prior leaks removed, so it stands to reason they might do the same for other leaks.
KidJoe said:
you can't flash the OTA via RSDLite.
Someone could try updating via Motorola Device Manager on their PC, and see if an FXZ/SBF comes down that can be captured.
Or if someone who is rooted can download, but not apply the OTA, they can grab the OTA ZIP file from their /cache folder... then you could follow the Side Load instructions from -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-return-to-stock-recovery-rooted-t3027079
That being said.. if this is a SOAK being performed, it shouldn't be long until it starts being pushed to all users of that model. Of course it will come in waves, so once the official push to that model comes, it may take up to a week until it hits all phones.
And anyone who takes part in the MFN tests would be violating the NDA they signed to take part, if they leak the file. Moto got the links to prior leaks removed, so it stands to reason they might do the same for other leaks.
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You should flash full FW by RSD, not OTA.
md07 said:
You should flash full FW by RSD, not OTA.
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Which is what I said...
I think maybe you should have quoted @johnrangoo who asked the question...
KidJoe said:
Which is what I said...
I think maybe you should have quoted @johnrangoo who asked the question...
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I stay tuned.. because I have a German Retail Moto X.. the ota zip is flashable via stock recovery.. right?
I have a question.. there is a safe way to downgrade to stock kitkat (just in case)?
bart.found said:
I stay tuned.. because I have a German Retail Moto X.. the ota zip is flashable via stock recovery.. right?
I have a question.. there is a safe way to downgrade to stock kitkat (just in case)?
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Yes, the OTA zip must be flashed from Stock Recovery. And there are also some other conditions. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425
As for downgrade... It is always suggested to never downgrade. If you downgrade, you risk bricking. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
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Yes, the OTA zip must be flashed from Stock Recovery. And there are also some other conditions. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425
As for downgrade... It is always suggested to never downgrade. If you downgrade, you risk bricking. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
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OMG it's a huge amount of informations!! If I understood, even if I have a retail version with unlockable bootloader, it is impossible to revert to a stock old version without the risk of a (hard)brick!!! :S
Does exist, at least, a stock rom flashable through custom recovery on newer bootloader versions? Or, alternatively, custom ROMs that are able to properly use the particular hardware of this device (without losing all its smart features?)
Thanks for the reply... I'll read it more carefully later
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...If I understood, even if I have a retail version with unlockable bootloader, it is impossible to revert to a stock old version without the risk of a (hard)brick!!! :S
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Correct.
bart.found said:
Does exist, at least, a stock rom flashable through custom recovery on newer bootloader versions? Or, alternatively, custom ROMs that are able to properly use the particular hardware of this device (without losing all its smart features?)
Thanks for the reply... I'll read it more carefully later
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As of yet, for Lollipop. No. What exists are "backups" of LEAKED test versions of Lollipop for other models and carriers. (Brazil XT1058 for example)
When the OTA finally pushes, you'll need to be stock, and on stock recovery to apply it.. OR wait for someone to create something like a "backup" which you can restore in TWRP, or a custom rom version BASED on the stock rom.
Keep in mind, that unless you apply the stock OTA which is pushed by your carrier/motorola, you might miss parts that get updated. In other words, the TWRP BACKUPS of the leaked test versions only include the /System partition. It does not include the partition table file, the bootloader, the modems, etc. and the other parts that are updated by the OTA.
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Correct.
As of yet, for Lollipop. No. What exists are "backups" of LEAKED test versions of Lollipop for other models and carriers. (Brazil XT1058 for example)
When the OTA finally pushes, you'll need to be stock, and on stock recovery to apply it.. OR wait for someone to create something like a "backup" which you can restore in TWRP, or a custom rom version BASED on the stock rom.
Keep in mind, that unless you apply the stock OTA which is pushed by your carrier/motorola, you might miss parts that get updated. In other words, the TWRP BACKUPS of the leaked test versions only include the /System partition. It does not include the partition table file, the bootloader, the modems, etc. and the other parts that are updated by the OTA.
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My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
bart.found said:
My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
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Why take OTA if you can just install a TWRP-backup of Lollipop... only then u can downgrade without the risk of bricking your device.
bart.found said:
My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
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If you are LOCKED BOOTLOADER, you can't run a custom recovery on the 2013 X. So that question is No, you can't.
And as for downgrading, Please DO NOT!! Instead, Read that entire thread, trust me, it explains why I say that.
KidJoe said:
If you are LOCKED BOOTLOADER, you can't run a custom recovery on the 2013 X. So that question is No, you can't.
And as for downgrading, Please DO NOT!! Instead, Read that entire thread, trust me, it explains why I say that.
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I finally read everything!!!
What I understand:
1) NEVER downgrade your bootloader or your stock firmware! If you don't want to brick immediately or later XD
What I didn't understand:
1) I have a German retail moto x xt1052.. can I unlock my bootloader, root and flash custom recovery/firmware? I suppose yes, even if my device isn't listed on motorola official page (can I use sunshine or other methods?)
2) Does any custom ROM, able to use all moto x features like touchless control or lift to wake etc, exist? Because I noticed that most custom ROMs aren't able to use that features (probably due to the lack of binaries), at least on lollipop.. I don't know if CM11 or slimkat or other AOSP based or stock based rom can properly use that damn X8 processor!
Thank you.. and sorry for bothering you so much, but I don't really want to damage my device!!!
bart.found said:
I finally read everything!!!
What I understand:
1) NEVER downgrade your bootloader or your stock firmware! If you don't want to brick immediately or later XD
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Correct.
bart.found said:
What I didn't understand:
1) I have a German retail moto x xt1052.. can I unlock my bootloader, root and flash custom recovery/firmware? I suppose yes, even if my device isn't listed on motorola official page (can I use sunshine or other methods?)
2) Does any custom ROM, able to use all moto x features like touchless control or lift to wake etc, exist? Because I noticed that most custom ROMs aren't able to use that features (probably due to the lack of binaries), at least on lollipop.. I don't know if CM11 or slimkat or other AOSP based or stock based rom can properly use that damn X8 processor!
Thank you.. and sorry for bothering you so much, but I don't really want to damage my device!!!
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1. The XT1052 could get its bootloader unlock code direct from Moto. After unlocking the bootloader you can flash customer recovery, root, and/or flash a 3rd party custom rom.
2. Any custom rom built on TOP of Moto's stock rom, could still retain those stock moto features. AOSP based roms, CM11/12 based roms, etc. will not include the stock moto features. However they may include 3rd party apps which mimic those features, but might not work as well.
Does 5.1 include hebrew language support as in 4.4.4?
amarguli said:
Does 5.1 include hebrew language support as in 4.4.4?
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If the stock Moto rom for your carrier/model X includes it, then yes, 5.1 update should include it as well.
I want to have 4.4.4 back instead of the ota given 5.1 update. Is there a nearly unmodified xt1052 stock 4.4.4 flashable with trwp?
Anyone know of a way to root 23.5.A.0.570 from within the ROM?
Of course you can create custom firmware with Flashtool, but is there other way?
Kingroot is useless at the moment.
Hi,
I've upgraded from Lollipop to MM yesterday, but with TFT rom, without root.
Then: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/kernel-advanced-stock-kernel-t3347413
But only works with unlocked bootloader.
I've just unlocked my bootloader and installed this kernel using ADB. But, FULL WIPE in my Z2 :'(
Don't know if was the kernel or just the fact to unlocked the bootloader.
Anyway, make a full backup
stygi4n said:
Hi,
I've upgraded from Lollipop to MM yesterday, but with TFT rom, without root.
Then: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/kernel-advanced-stock-kernel-t3347413
But only works with unlocked bootloader.
I've just unlocked my bootloader and installed this kernel using ADB. But, FULL WIPE in my Z2 :'(
Don't know if was the kernel or just the fact to unlocked the bootloader.
Anyway, make a full backup
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Its because of the Bootloader u unlocked.. Unlocking bootloader first time will erase ur all datas..
And there is no need to unlock ur bootloader. Simply go back to KK or LP then root it and install recovery. After that flash a pre rooted MM rom.. Simple
And i think after unlocking bootloader u have lost some Sony features.. Did u make ur TA (DRM) Key backup..??
Why do people think it's too difficult to downgrade to another version of Android, root and install a rooted android mm zip thought recovery?
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Why do people think it's too difficult to downgrade to another version of Android, root and install a rooted android mm zip thought recovery?
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I've done that, but still kept getting bootloops no matter what. I don't think I would call myself noob
kokesh said:
I've done that, but still kept getting bootloops no matter what. I don't think I would call myself noob
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Are you using Xposed? because after many re-flashes and reinstalls on different things, I think, that for me, few of the xposed mods were causing the loops. For example I miss the immersive mods in games etc and I simply can't get it to work correctly as it was, no matter what I try, so different xposed mods related mostly to that were causing the loops for me. I am currently reflashing at the moment
hexanova said:
Are you using Xposed? because after many re-flashes and reinstalls on different things, I think, that for me, few of the xposed mods were causing the loops. For example I miss the immersive mods in games etc and I simply can't get it to work correctly as it was, no matter what I try, so different xposed mods related mostly to that were causing the loops for me. I am currently reflashing at the moment
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I had Xposed, but revmoved it before flashing. Anyway I'm currently too comfy in the full stock to go through the whole disgrace, upgrade,... ordeal again. I went through the whole circus maybe 5 tones few days back
kokesh said:
I had Xposed, but revmoved it before flashing. Anyway I'm currently too comfy in the full stock to go through the whole disgrace, upgrade,... ordeal again. I went through the whole circus maybe 5 tones few days back
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it happened to me too, tried almost 5-7 flashin via recovery from many stock lollipop n kitkat, but always get looping boot, i could get in to the language choose screen, but when i touch the screen, it will restart n always like that. but yesterday i successed flashing via recovery. what i was doin is, flash the germany generic ftf 264, then root via kingroot n recovery (i choose twrp). then use the zip MM from a thread, the back name of the zip is 1281-9709_R3D, then i flashed the 3 files for root from MM beta thread, finally i flashed bootloop fix from the same thread. then boom, get in to the boot and finished normally
Rajeev said:
Its because of the Bootloader u unlocked.. Unlocking bootloader first time will erase ur all datas..
And there is no need to unlock ur bootloader. Simply go back to KK or LP then root it and install recovery. After that flash a pre rooted MM rom.. Simple
And i think after unlocking bootloader u have lost some Sony features.. Did u make ur TA (DRM) Key backup..??
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Oh crap, I knew it, but in the Sony developer's website doesn't show this information...
About DRM, I know I have the backup, but I don't know where, lol. Anyway, in the same topic, there's a procedure to recover the features.
tks for explanations!
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BTW days ago i was looking some information for unlocking bootloader, but i didn't find anything, could anyone share me some info?
zxspectrun said:
BTW days ago i was looking some information for unlocking bootloader, but i didn't find anything, could anyone share me some info?
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What information u need?
zxspectrun said:
BTW days ago i was looking some information for unlocking bootloader, but i didn't find anything, could anyone share me some info?
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http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Android-development/HOW-TO-CHECK-BOOTLOADER-IS-UNLOCKED/td-p/287305
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What information u need?
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HI friend I need a post step by step, I haven't any knowledge about it, if I can unlock it with marshmallow or if I have to downgrade ...
And the same for backing up my TA partition, there's a tool but it didn't work for me
zxspectrun said:
HI friend I need a post step by step, I haven't any knowledge about it, if I can unlock it with marshmallow or if I have to downgrade ...
And the same for backing up my TA partition, there's a tool but it didn't work for me
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So u want to root ur MM right?
Well u can simply downgrade and root it along with recovery. Then backup ur drm key using TA Backup tool from xda. After that u can flash a pre rooted MM rom
Rajeev said:
So u want to root ur MM right?
Well u can simply downgrade and root it along with recovery. Then backup ur drm key using TA Backup tool from xda. After that u can flash a pre rooted MM rom
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I already have rooted marshmallow but now I want to unlock it
What's going to happen to my SM-G900I thats got root (running stock) when it receives the marshmallow update. Sorry for the simple question. Thanks
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Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
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Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
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Okay thanks so pretty much wait until someone figures out how to root mm then update and root?
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You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
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So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
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So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
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Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
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Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
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For what? Stock MM?
This one is modded for BTU United Kingdom for the G900F, been running it for a while now, great ROM
It will trip KNOX though if you haven't already
Code:
https://mega.nz/#!SMRlERrY!oeOX8W_4tbQbArTN-LzTKWJ1xi_8LLrN_ZoSg-Dzs1Q
Has anyone tried upgrading a rooted LG H91810j to H91810p? Did you still have root afterward? What about TWRP? I am concerned about losing root and losing the ability to roll back because of their "anti-rollback" mechanism in 10p.
Optional back story, for the curious:
I bought a refurbished LG V20 that was running software version H91810k out of the box. I immediately tried to root it with dirtycow, but dirtycow does not work on 10k. So I downgraded to 10j from 10k using LGUP, and then successfully rooted the phone with dirtycow. I then installed TWRP and then LineageOS.
Unfortunately, I just don't feel like LineageOS is where it needs to be for me on the V20. I lost a number of features, such as (1) the second display, (2) ability to use BOTH cameras on the rear, (3) quad hi-fi DAC for superior audio, (4) automatic wake/sleep when opening and closing my phone case, (5) encryption (!!!!).
I feel like there are just to many things missing, so I think I want to go back to the stock ROM, but I would like to stay rooted so I can at least get rid of the bloatware. Is this possible or am I going to lose root and TWRP via one of LG's updates?
You can keep root on stock rom but flash one thats 10k if you flash one that's 10p and you wouldn't be able to back to anything pass
10p. Weta has a 10k version look in there thread for details and instructions
ki11aprime said:
You can keep root on stock rom but flash one thats 10k if you flash one that's 10p and you wouldn't be able to back to anything pass
10p. Weta has a 10k version look in there thread for details and instructions
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I understand not being able to rollback/downgrade after hitting 10p, but let's just say I decided to upgrade to 10p+ anyway. Would I still have root and twrp?
fronzee88 said:
I understand not being able to rollback/downgrade after hitting 10p, but let's just say I decided to upgrade to 10p+ anyway. Would I still have root and twrp?
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Yea once you're rooted and flash a custom rom I'm on alpha rom
ki11aprime said:
Yea once you're rooted and flash a custom rom I'm on alpha rom
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Right, but I'm talking about being rooted without a custom ROM, i.e. running the stock ROM while rooted and having TWRP. Can I upgrade to 10p and beyond, and at least keep root/twrp, even if I can't roll back or install anything else?
fronzee88 said:
Right, but I'm talking about being rooted without a custom ROM, i.e. running the stock ROM while rooted and having TWRP. Can I upgrade to 10p and beyond, and at least keep root/twrp, even if I can't roll back or install anything else?
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What firmware are you no right now
1)Get 10i root it install twrp
2) there's a flashable 10r somewhere don't have the link right now put download and flash via twrp 10r is the newest update I believe.
ki11aprime said:
What firmware are you no right now
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Technically I'm running LineageOS (14.1-20171226-NIGHTLY-h918) but I want to go back to stock rom WITH root/twrp, because I lost a lot of features like second display, dual-rear-camera, quad hi-fi DAC, encryption (etc). I just don't think LineageOS is ready for this particular phone, for me. I am planning to revert to stock rom H91810j (re-root if necessary) and then upgrade to the latest stock rom, if I won't lose root that is.
ki11aprime said:
What firmware are you no right now
1)Get 10i root it install twrp
2) there's a flashable 10r somewhere don't have the link right now put download and flash via twrp 10r is the newest update I believe.
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Just saw your edit. So it sounds like the best way to upgrade is to flash it via TWRP rather than install it via the OTA updates? Can you (or anyone else) confirm it stays rooted when done this way?
fronzee88 said:
Just saw your edit. So it sounds like the best way to upgrade is to flash it via TWRP rather than install it via the OTA updates? Can you (or anyone else) confirm it stays rooted when done this way?
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Yes update via twrp, you keep root
You upgrade past 10k and you lose the ability to ever root your phone again in case you screw up and have to flash a KDZ.
Your choice.....
-- Brian
I have been rocking 10k just fine. There is support for a custom stock kernel. Personally, upgrading to 10r is not worth the risk, especially since there is nothing really new besides sercurity patches.
Well, I ended up flashing H91810r as per this thread and I am happy to confirm I still have root. Just thought I would post this for anyone wondering the same thing. Now I just have to remember to only update by flashing via TWRP, moving forward.
Pretty much just like everyone else here has said, always update via twrp. Never take the ota update when you're rooted. And didnt you make a backup? Why not just flash back to your original stock rooted room?
You mean we can flash Oreo 8.0 kdz and still have root intact?
lamepsycho said:
You mean wecan flash Oreo 8.0 kdz and still have root intact?
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Read the posts, NO. Flash a zip from a thread for your variant that's labeled as twrp flashable.
I've tried just about every major root app, various versions of Odin, ADB won't flash TWRP.... I've tried everything. This is my firmware version: g950usqs7dtb1. I realize it's a binary 7 because I've never had the option to turn off the auto software update. Am I screwed with a binary 7 firmware for a while?
Also, another question: I installed a combination file, and had to frantically search to get my firmware package back. Eventually found it on some semi-shady site, and had to pay about ten bucks for it. Is it possible for it to have a trojan? Some things are not working correctly, like I can't get my weather app to recognize the GPS and the swiftkey can't download a language pack.
Edit: Forgot to mention, ATT is the carrier. Not sure if that matters. Also, any help would be so much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
See my other posts. Locked bootloader no twrp for you
TheMadScientist said:
See my other posts. Locked bootloader no twrp for you
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Ok, I appreciate your help. Are you saying I need to flash other firmware which will remove the locked bootloader? The trouble is I have to flash binary 7 firmware and that's hard to find. Or are you saying I'm just screwed? Please tell me clearly. Sorry man, I'm pretty new to all this.
uberdad said:
Ok, I appreciate your help. Are you saying I need to flash other firmware which will remove the locked bootloader? The trouble is I have to flash binary 7 firmware and that's hard to find. Or are you saying I'm just screwed? Please tell me clearly. Sorry man, I'm pretty new to all this.
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You are screwed. If you look in the syndicate thread below. You can root 7.0 on bit 7. But as for custom ROMs,kernels. Actual twrp your screwed. This devices bootloader is permanently locked and is not unlockable
You can gain SU based system only root. To add things live viper for android. Some system debloat. But that is it. You are also limited to nougat. No root for oreo or pie. No los based ROMs if you are looking for custom you need a F model or a different device.
TheMadScientist said:
You are screwed. If you look in the syndicate thread below. You can root 7.0 on bit 7. But as for custom ROMs,kernels. Actual twrp your screwed. This devices bootloader is permanently locked and is not unlockable
You can gain SU based system only root. To add things live viper for android. Some system debloat. But that is it. You are also limited to nougat. No root for oreo or pie. No los based ROMs if you are looking for custom you need a F model or a different device.
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Wow, that sucks. Thanks for the feedback.