Any way to get file from non-rooted G5 Plus using PC? - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

There's a file I need from my phone, but I cannot access it as it requires root and my device is not rooted and never has been. When I read rooting guides they all state to do a wipe. Is there any way to get the file from my phone using my PC even if my phone isn't rooted?

Not sure by your vague description, but do a search of QPST and its sub program QFIL as it is Qualcomm's set of tools for development and working with their chipsets.

[email protected] said:
Not sure by your vague description, but do a search of QPST and its sub program QFIL as it is Qualcomm's set of tools for development and working with their chipsets.
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Vague description?
- There is a file on my phone that I want to copy to my computer
- I am unable to access the file on my phone because it is in a location that requires root
- My phone is not rooted
My question is, is there a method using my pc to access the file even if my phone is not rooted? And if so, what is that method? I'm asking if my PC can get root access to files on my phone even if my phone is not rooted.

devvshukla said:
Is the "file" in [root]/data/ or [root]/system/ or it's in your internal storage and your device is locked down?
If internal then there is no way as it is encrypted.
You can copy some of them from system storage, try some file managers eg FX. I could copy the system apps with their lib from /System/apps to my SD Card.
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I'm not sure where it's located. I was given this info from Roboform support. It's a password manager.
"By default it would be RoboForm/_user-data.rfo on your device if you have root access, the folder location itself varies from device to device."
With FX File Manager I can find two Roboform related folders, but access to both is denied without having root. Their locations are:
System/data/app
System/data/data

If you're looking for wifi passwords, and it sounds like that's what you're after, you're not going to be able to get them without root access.
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riggerman0421 said:
If you're looking for wifi passwords, and it sounds like that's what you're after, you're not going to be able to get them without root access.
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I already stated what the file is. It's my own user data from the password manager app Roboform. I need the file to import the data into the PC version, as my user data was lost. As long as I don't sync the phone app, I still have all of my 211 site logins/passwords saved... but there is no way to recover the data to the PC app without getting that file.
Isn't there a PC app that can create a 1:1 image of everything on my phone, and then another that can open the image to view the files? Or a way to root without having to lose the data in the process?
I'm just trying to avoid having to manually input every single one of my logins & passwords manually, but will if there's no other way. I've gotten about 40 done so far but quit until I got an answer here.

maybe you can use adb to pull the files

plastic_green_head said:
Vague description?
- There is a file on my phone that I want to copy to my computer
- I am unable to access the file on my phone because it is in a location that requires root
- My phone is not rooted
My question is, is there a method using my pc to access the file even if my phone is not rooted? And if so, what is that method? I'm asking if my PC can get root access to files on my phone even if my phone is not rooted.
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Vague in that you did not say it was in
Code:
System/data/app
System/data/data
in your first post. As I posted, QFIL can dump the whole chipset, but getting it to work, and then extracting right file with a hex editor, is pretty involved.

Another option is to try using ADB backup. If the app allows itself to be backed up, then you may be able to extract the relevant files from the backup.

plastic_green_head said:
There's a file I need from my phone, but I cannot access it as it requires root and my device is not rooted and never has been. When I read rooting guides they all state to do a wipe. Is there any way to get the file from my phone using my PC even if my phone isn't rooted?
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Hey, just use Moto lenovo software assistant and back up the file into pc and then access with your computer.

riyan65 said:
Hey, just use Moto lenovo software assistant and back up the file into pc and then access with your computer.
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That won't work as it doesn't provide root access.
42o247 said:
maybe you can use adb to pull the files
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Vague in that you did not say it was in
Code:
System/data/app
System/data/data
in your first post. As I posted, QFIL can dump the whole chipset, but getting it to work, and then extracting right file with a hex editor, is pretty involved.
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Another option is to try using ADB backup. If the app allows itself to be backed up, then you may be able to extract the relevant files from the backup.
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Thanks. I don't think I'll mess with QFIL but will give ADB backup a go.

plastic_green_head said:
That won't work as it doesn't provide root access.
Vague in that you did not say it was in
Thanks. I don't think I'll mess with QFIL but will give ADB backup a go.
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You are not vague... simply wrong!
You need the data belonging to an app so if the phone is not rooted and the app isn't a system app their data is under /data/data/APPNAME/
The Lenovo Assistant does an adb backup,nothing more and nothing less.

nicolap8 said:
You are not vague... simply wrong!
You need the data belonging to an app so if the phone is not rooted and the app isn't a system app their data is under /data/data/APPNAME/
The Lenovo Assistant does an adb backup,nothing more and nothing less.
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Zero idea what you're trying to say there. You also quoted me as saying something that another poster said. What exactly am I "simply wrong!" about? I stated that I can see the location of the folders on my phone, but that I cannot enter into the folders because I do not have root access. "Access Denied". Someone told me to use Lenovo MOTO Smart Assistant, so I figured they were telling me to simply use it to browse my phones directory and copy the file to my computer. Naturally, if I browse my phone with the app it does not give me root access, thus I am unable to even see data/app/APPNAME or data/data/APPNAME. The person who suggested it did not mention anything about using it to create a backup. You stated that it "does an adb backup,nothing more and nothing less." which is completely incorrect. You're the one that's wrong here. The assistant does NOT do a complete adb backup. In fact the only things you can backup using it are contacts, sms, pics, music, video, and apps. Plus it does much more. Not "nothing more and nothing less" as you stated.
Roboform creates folders in the system partition. Are you telling me I'm wrong about where the folders are located? Wrong that the assistant app doesn't even let me see system folders? Wrong that it can't be used to create a full backup? Wrong that it does more than let you back up non-system files? Because I'm not wrong about a single one of those things.
Soooooooo. That brings me to having a full backup using adb command line, but no way to extract it's contents. I tried this but the unpack feature does absolutely nothing & the main interface doesn't even see my phone. Not to mention the install is bug ridden. It creates folders in the wrong locations & with the wrong names, so I needed to manually rename & move files because the app would crash trying to find files needed to run. https://github.com/camalot/droidexplorer
Is there any way to easily unpack the backup? If not I'll just give up on this and manually input the remaining 100+ passwords one by one from my phones screen to my PC. LoL.

plastic_green_head said:
Roboform creates folders in the system partition.
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I don't think so! No app modifies /system, it requires root access to do.
Your data is in /data/data/roboform folder.
Do the backup:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Unpack the data:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011811

nicolap8 said:
I don't think so! No app modifies /system, it requires root access to do.
Your data is in /data/data/roboform folder.
Do the backup:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Unpack the data:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011811
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Didn't need the first link. I said I already have an adb backup. You still didn't tell me what I was previously wrong about. The file locations? I'm going by where FX File Manager tells me it's located, which says System/data/app. Does it really matter anyway? I see them, I just can't open them without rooting & once I get the extracting stuff set up I will know where to look for them. A 100% technically (in)accurate location name was irrelevant to even point out as being "not vague, just wrong".

plastic_green_head said:
Didn't need the first link. I said I already have an adb backup. You still didn't tell me what I was previously wrong about. The file locations? I'm going by where FX File Manager tells me it's located, which says System/data/app. Does it really matter anyway? I see them, I just can't open them without rooting & once I get the extracting stuff set up I will know where to look for them. A 100% technically (in)accurate location name was irrelevant to even point out as being "not vague, just wrong".
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This is relevant, the Roboform app
a) was installed by you
b) it's an app that already was on phone
???

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Alternate Way of Sideloading apps: Sideload Wonder Machine

For those of you who are uncertain of how to use adb commands or are afraid of editing their db check out the link below for more details about the app.
This is a quote from the site below explaining what it is:
"It's a Windows application that lets you sideload apps on ANY Android device, on any carrier, without the Android SDK installed. And you DON'T HAVE TO BE ROOTED"
Sideload Wonder Machine
***Note I am not the developer of this app or have any connection to it other than the fact that I happened to see the post and figured I would spread the word to everyone here. I have tested it on a ATT Captivate (which was already rooted) and it works as described.
so does this mean you can load any .apk file from the web into this Sideloader program and when the Captivate is plugged into the computer it will install it without issues?? and no need for modifying the no-market value settings thru root explorer?
Sticky Needed.
IT WORKS!!!
I tried this program yesterday and can confirm that it works
so its a cleaner way to install apk files into the captivate instead of editing the dbsettings file?? do I just save the apk file to my computer then just plug the captivate into the computer then select the file and run the program?
This lets you sideload any app (.apk file - android app file extension) that you can download on your computer, and it does not require rooting.
You need to download the samsung drivers for the phone (sammy website), upgrade to .net 4 (google search), download the wonder machine program from the beginning of the thread, and turn on usb debugging on the phone (settings>applications>development>usb debugging on)
Download an .apk somewhere on the net (I chose bansai blast as my first one). MOVE THAT FILE INTO THE FOLDER WITH THE UNZIPPED WONDER MACHINE. If you don't then you will get a "loader.bat" not recognized error when you hit go. Next, plug in your phone, pull down the notification tap and mount your sd card to the computer (I know that the instructions on android central say to keep your phone in charge only mode, but then the program will not find your phone if you don't mount the card). On the wonder machine hit choose file, and select the apk file you downloaded (again, in same folder as wonder machine program). Hit ok. Then hit go. It should pull up a dos looking command window and display your serial number (If you have a firewall like zonealarm, be sure to let the program access the net and your trusted zone - serial won't display if you don't) and a "press any key to continue." Do that and it should take a second to say "install successful. press any key..." Check your phone and the app should be in your apps list. Hope this helps, as it took me a while to figure all this out.
droid explorer offers better functionality. still, good find
with droid explorer am I able to copy the dbsettings file directly to my micrsd card then open SQLite from my phone edit and paste back into the origin dbsettings and overwrite it? or does that have to be done thru the comp??
I can confirm too that this program works great.
Sorry for the late responses but here they go:
poulosjr said:
so its a cleaner way to install apk files into the captivate instead of editing the dbsettings file?? do I just save the apk file to my computer then just plug the captivate into the computer then select the file and run the program?
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That is correct, plug in your phone, place the apk anywhere on your comp, and browse for the apk thru the app. this then installs the apk directly into your phone.
poulosjr said:
with droid explorer am I able to copy the dbsettings file directly to my micrsd card then open SQLite from my phone edit and paste back into the origin dbsettings and overwrite it? or does that have to be done thru the comp??
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With this app you do not have to edit the db, the only down side of this app is that you have to install the apks via your comp.
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droid explorer offers better functionality. still, good find
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You are right, with this app you lose a bit of flex ability since this method installs via your comp. But for those people who dont want to edit or use the adb push method it could not get any easier. I personally end up installing apks when i am on the road all the time so i prefer the permanent methods on my phones.
this works awesomely!
just make sure to put the .apk's in the same folder as the sideload program
+1 to this. Not the most convenient method but quick if you have your computer with you
i hate logging into windows. I'd love a mac version!
but I do have this on my windows ( i believe it is an androidcentral.com app ) and i used it a lot until i started messing with my phone and learned about adb.
I just wanted to say thanks for the quick guide. I was concerned about messing around with the db settings and screwing stuff up. I have absolutely NO problem installing non-market apps through my pc--thanks a lot dude!
I've been using it. My phone is unrooted. I used it to add 2 apps. A live wallpaper and a need for speed game demo.
Thanks to all of you !!
by following all that you posted I was able to root with super user , save with rom mgr , load wireless tether which was my goal.
Just to update were i screwed up must remember with super user (update zip) put the whole zip file on phone as a stand alone not in any folder . With side loader must be in the same folder as side loader to work , of course with micro net 4 installed, on the pc and debugging enabled , samsung usb driver installed on pc and superuser must installed to use side loader
thanks for all you help !!!

[Q] How to access Phone Memmory!!

Can anyone please let me know, how to access the phone memory in Galaxy 3. There is My files folder in Applications which constitutes Memory Card. Do I need to root the phone to access phone memory?
vijay.gupta said:
Can anyone please let me know, how to access the phone memory in Galaxy 3. There is My files folder in Applications which constitutes Memory Card. Do I need to root the phone to access phone memory?
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yeps...!! basically that's d definition of rooting..!! ha ha...
Thanks Fido for the reply. Why is the phone memory inaccessible in android phones for normal users? Is there any specific reason for this?
It doesn't happens in other platforms such as Symbian, Blackberry etc.
they do d ryt thing.. Coz, if u r a newbie.. U may mess wid ur system... So it s a way to protect system files frm newbies..
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Just curious that if you have access to phone memory, what mess you can create?
You have access to phone memory freely in all the other platforms without rooting. Do you mean to say that the creators of those platforms are not doing right thing?
Android doesn't use the phone memory to save things, only for system stuff and installed apps. You cannot put music on your phone memory for example.
How to access your phone memory? You don't have to be rooted to view, only to change... You can just use bluetooth file manager or astro file manager to view (and copy). But you have to use another program to change things...
vijay.gupta said:
Just curious that if you have access to phone memory, what mess you can create?
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If you can access it, any application you install and run can access it without any limitation. This is good, if you know what you are doing, but it can be very harmful if you are not careful.
Humpie said:
You can just use bluetooth file manager or astro file manager to view (and copy). But you have to use another program to change things...
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There is no way you can access the phone memory without rooting. Rooting is "the program" that changes things.
Thanks all,
I have mtorrent insalled on my phone. when i go to the option to add torrent, it shows me the directories that are not visible when I go to My Files folder. I have not rooted my phone. Are these directories the phone memory directories?
How can I determine if they are directories for accessing phone memory?
Shall I give out the name for the few?
One thing more: I am not getting e-mail notifications only for this thread even though I am subscribed to this thread whereas I am getting for all others. What may be the problem for this?
vijay.gupta said:
I have mtorrent insalled on my phone. when i go to the option to add torrent, it shows me the directories that are not visible when I go to My Files folder. I have not rooted my phone. Are these directories the phone memory directories?
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Which directories are those? On the memory card there are hidden files and folders whose name starts with a dot (.). The My Files app won't list these by default, but in the Settings menu you can enable it, and it is possible that in mtorrent this is the default setting.
The name of the directories are:
.info
cache
config
data
dev
efs
etc
lib
proc
res
sbin
sdcard - This is my SD Card folder that shows the contents of my memory card
sqlite_stmt_journals
sys
system
tmp
d
default.prop
fota.rc
init
init.apollo.rc
init.apollo.sh
init.rc
recovery.rc
system.prop
This is the root directory. Can you copy or create files here?
what do you mean by root directory? are you referring to this phone memory by this term...no, i can only access them...dont create or copy any file here..
vijay.gupta said:
what do you mean by root directory?
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This is the root of the entire file system, without rooting you can't modify its contents (except the /mnt/sdcard folder and subfolders ofcourse).
So just confirming that without rooting the phone, one can access the phone memory but cannot modify its contents. Am i correct?
yes, that's correct
so, why i am able to access this directory (phone memory) only from some apps and not from all the apps?
Also, is there any other way that I can access (not modify anything) phone memory if my phone is not rooted?
Also, if anyone has rooted his phone, what may be the purpose that is solved? As far as I know, such users can install some apps that need root access for the phone?
I mean to say, what may be the reason for which the user may want modify permission to phone memory apart from installing apps that require root access?
Use astro , u can access ur phone memory even if unrooted (atleast see those foldres )
Thanks only4omkar. I am able to do that already using ttorrent app. But my query is different...can anyone please respond to that?
vijay.gupta said:
Can anyone please let me know, how to access the phone memory in Galaxy 3. There is My files folder in Applications which constitutes Memory Card. Do I need to root the phone to access phone memory?
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Wen u install applicATIONS, it gets installed in teh internal memory by default

Cannot find clockworkmod folder. Read all XDA threads already.

Hello guys,
I want to flash a custom ROM and I have made a Nandroid Backup using the latest clockworkmod.
I cannot seem to find the clockworkmod folder on my phone. Funny thing is that when I use restore option in the CWM, it shows the path of the backup as sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
Already tried checking data/media, but my data folder doesnt have a media subfolder.
Any suggestions?
PS: I use ES File Explorer and I did check the 'Hidden Files' option in it. Using CWM 6.0.2.3
PPS: I had flashed CWM 6.0.2.3 on 6.0.1.9
-Thanks!
try /mnt/shell/emulated/
croques said:
try /mnt/shell/emulated/
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emulated doesn't exist in /mnt/shell/
Should I try reflashing the CWM?
I have storage/emulated/. Even that doesn't contain cwm folder though.
So weird.
w1ndhawk said:
emulated doesn't exist in /mnt/shell/
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it does on mine? And clockworkmod is there as a directory.
w1ndhawk said:
Should I try reflashing the CWM?
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No; it'll be there somewhere. Poke around.
Are you sure ES file Explorer is set to allow / (root) exploration?
croques said:
it does on mine? And clockworkmod is there as a directory.
No; it'll be there somewhere. Poke around.
Are you sure ES file Explorer is set to allow / (root) exploration?
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Root Explorer wasn't enabled x_x. Sorry, first android ever! Haha!
Yes, now I can see clockworkmod/backups in the mnt/shell/emulated. Thanks a million.
Emulated folder contains almost all the folders/files that are present on my SD Card. Could you explain what is emulated folder though and why isn't the cwm folder just stored in sdcard/clockworkmod/backups? I have a nexus 4.
And off topic but: after I take a nandroid backup, I should probably save it on my computer right? And of course, that begs another question. How can I find this file through windows explorer?
Further, how do I manually explore paths (by typing it in) on the android. Or do I have to keep changing home directory in settings?
Sorry for so many question. I know what its like to having to answer to noobs
w1ndhawk said:
Could you explain what is emulated folder though and why isn't the cwm folder just stored in sdcard/clockworkmod/backups? I have a nexus 4.
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Someone more knowledgeable will be along in a minute.
w1ndhawk said:
And off topic but: after I take a nandroid backup, I should probably save it on my computer right? And of course, that begs another question. How can I find this file through windows explorer?
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You can't use Windoze explorer AFAIK.
I use adb. Since you've rooted your phone... adb must be set up. Open a command window in Windows (run cmd -w) (I don't use Windoze so you're on your own a bit here) and type
Code:
adb shell
You then can use 'ls' and 'cd <directory>' to see what's there and move around.
You'll probably want to use 'adb pull <foldername>' at some time to get the backup onto your PC. Google around for adb commands. I've spoon fed you enough to be getting on with.
w1ndhawk said:
Further, how do I manually explore paths (by typing it in) on the android. Or do I have to keep changing home directory in settings?
Sorry for so many question. I know what its like to having to answer to noobs
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Sorry; I don't understand the question. And knowledge it like a mosaic floor covered in sand... you've spent your time clearing sand and finding whats beneath a different part from me. No noob should need to apologize in a nice forum.
Get rid of CWM and use TWRP. It's much better and stores backups in the proper location (virtual SD) which you can browse with Windows
Your clockworkmod backups will be in /data/media/clockworkmod
Yep, time for me to research on my own. Enough spoon feeding.
Instead of using commands, I just copy pasted the backup created by CWM to my sdcard using ES Root Explorer so that I could see it using Windows Explorer.
Will give TWRP a try in the future though.
The question about ES file explorer was, how can I explore the file system by typing in the path manually. For example, in windows you can manually type in the path in windows explorer and it will take you there.
EDIT:
The copying thing doesn't work. I think I will have to flash TWRP.
EDIT 2:
Tried again and it DID WORK!!! (the copying thing) Using TWRP is obviously easier though.
w1ndhawk said:
Yep, time for me to research on my own. Enough spoon feeding.
Instead of using commands, I just copy pasted the backup created by CWM to my sdcard using ES Root Explorer so that I could see it using Windows Explorer.
Will give TWRP a try in the future though.
The question about ES file explorer was, how can I explore the file system by typing in the path manually. For example, in windows you can manually type in the path in windows explorer and it will take you there.
EDIT:
The copying thing doesn't work. I think I will have to flash TWRP.
EDIT 2:
Tried again and it DID WORK!!! (the copying thing) Using TWRP is obviously easier though.
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Oops. Missed the part about you already checking /data/.
w1ndhawk said:
The copying thing doesn't work. I think I will have to flash TWRP.
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With Nexus 4, Google have seen fit not to implement a USB browsable file system.
It seems to be the trend for Android. I don't think TWRP will help much.
The only way to 'easily' get stuff is to master adb. Although in linux there's this.
Perhaps someone else has a Windoze alternative.
croques said:
With Nexus 4, Google have seen fit not to implement a USB browsable file system.
It seems to be the trend for Android. I don't think TWRP will help much.
The only way to 'easily' get stuff is to master adb. Although in linux there's this.
Perhaps someone else has a Windoze alternative.
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The SD partition is perfectly accessible through MTP
Michealtbh said:
The SD partition is perfectly accessible through MTP
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And MTP is perfectly accessible through nothing.
(I swear, I just want to back hand smack the person who thought their creation called "MTP" was a good thing. MTP = Massive Trauma Protocol)

ADB-puuled CWM backup doesn't match its original size on phone?

Hi all,
I've decided to try and copy my nandroid backup that I made the other day (first ever since I've just rooted my phone) to my PC.
Long story short, I attempted to use Root explorer to cut and paste the backup's folder into a folder that is visible on my PC so I could get a copy onto my PC, and then cut and paste the nandroid back into its original folder (tedious, but I don't have enough space to have 2 copies of the nadroid on my phone at the same time). This, however, fails, and I can't see the backup folder in the folder that I can see on my PC despite it being visible in this same PC-visible folder via root explorer after its supposedly pasted it.
So I went via option 2, using ADB to pull the folder.
After another amount of research I found a path that does pull the folder (mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup .... data/media/clockworkmod/backup = remote object doesn't exist error).
It appears to pull the folder successfully (an identically named folder appears in "platform tools" folder on my PC), however the size of this pulled folder is only ~500mb, and I'm certain the nandroid backup took up at least 3-4GB on my phone after it was created.
The pulled folder also doesn't show all the files that I can see within the nandroid backup's folder via root explorer.
I did notice the "read-only" checkbox of the pulled folder appears filled in, which I take it means not all files in the folder have read-only properties. Is it possible there are (still) hidden files within the pulled folder that would account for the difference in size and number of visible files compared to the original nandroid folder on the phone?
any clarificaion of this would be good - I'm keen to have a copy of my backup on my PC as a safeguard, but this scenario has baffled me despite an hr's worth of research
No one?
Surely someone has an idea about this..
I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
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lolcakes203 said:
I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
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How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.
salxtai said:
How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.
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It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing
lopezk38 said:
It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing
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Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?
salxtai said:
Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?
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For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu
I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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lopezk38 said:
For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu
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After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)
lolcakes203 said:
I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.
salxtai said:
After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)
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You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data
I do have those settings enabled in control panel, but aside from that I'm not sure what else could be there. In terms of USB settings, I have USB debugging enabled in developer options, and in the storage menu I have mtp selected, not the other one. I think that is all the USB settings that I have changed.
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salxtai said:
I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.
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The CWM backup folder shouldn't be able to be accessed with MTP. Android only allows you to access your user's folder (You can only have multiple users on tablets, but the user based file structure is still there) through USB. User folders have a number attached to them to mark which user they are for, which is why you have that folder named 0 with all your stuff in it, because you are user #0. Since CWM backups are saved in a separate branch, Android does not make them available to USB for security reasons. lolcakes203 probably has a modified version of CWM (Or you can change the save directory in CWM? I haven't used CWM in forever), or he has TWRP which saves backups in your user folder so you can access them through USB
Ahh yes I am using PhilZ CWM and that may be why I can see the backup.
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lopezk38 said:
You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data
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Sorry, not sure I'm following the command line instructions - how would this command line look in full?

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odd, once I did downgrade once I never had to download the package again as it is stored locally until I delete it. The recovery tool picks up the stored rom and flashes it without downloading.
Here All Guy's are clever, so they uses their own mind and their own step's.
and the steps they uses that is more simple than you described here.
Why you don't go to settings menu in Recovery Tool ?
Why you don't define your "Custom Package" Folder.
Even you don't have copy any large content into any directory.
Like,
C:\ProgramData\ Etc Etc It's very complicated to backup your Image Files.
Mean, Assume I've more than 10 device and i want to place my ROM files on different Drive for backup purpose.
I.e "D:\ROMS\RM-xyz
Cheers..
derausgewanderte said:
odd, once I did downgrade once I never had to download the package again as it is stored locally until I delete it. The recovery tool picks up the stored rom and flashes it without downloading.
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Bro its for ppl who flashes their os on their pc as well...you can backup the file's after they are downloaded from Ms recovery tool....
never mind..
djamol said:
Here All Guy's are clever, so they uses their own mind and their own step's.
and the steps they
Why you don't go to uses that is more simple than you described here.settings menu in Recovery Tool ?
Why you don't define your "Custom Package" Folder.
Even you don't have copy any large content into any directory.
Like,
C:\ProgramData\ Etc Etc It's very complicated to backup your Image Files.
Mean, Assume I've more than 10 device and i want to place my ROM files on different Drive for backup purpose.
I.e "D:\ROMS\RM-xyz
Cheers..
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never mind it.......i am new to xda....nd all these things which you have been doing so far.....there are mistakes in every man....just learning from them....nd by the way how to open settings menu in recovery tool????
And this tutorial is for beginners.....who are frustrated like me after downloading gb's of files from navifirm....
And thnxx ....just updated tutorial with Note and easier instructions..for beginners..
Hritwik said:
never mind it.......i am new to xda....nd all these things which you have been doing so far.....there are mistakes in every man....just learning from them....nd by the way how to open settings menu in recovery tool????
And this tutorial is for beginners.....who are frustrated like me after downloading gb's of files from navifirm....
And thnxx ....just updated tutorial with Note and easier instructions..for beginners..
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see attached. either right click onto the open wp recovery tool or click the three dots....
You can define new paths for any device you got etc...
thnxxx
derausgewanderte said:
see attached. either right click onto the open wp recovery tool or click the three dots....
You can define new paths for any device you got etc...
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thnxx.... will just update tutorial......i just cant even notice a single simple thing like that.....:good::good::good:
djamol said:
Here All Guy's are clever, so they uses their own mind and their own step's.
and the steps they uses that is more simple than you described here.
Why you don't go to settings menu in Recovery Tool ?
Why you don't define your "Custom Package" Folder.
Even you don't have copy any large content into any directory.
Like,
C:\ProgramData\ Etc Etc It's very complicated to backup your Image Files.
Mean, Assume I've more than 10 device and i want to place my ROM files on different Drive for backup purpose.
I.e "D:\ROMS\RM-xyz
Cheers..
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And @djamol ...do you know about any device specific thing that every app reads on wp...like first is rm no. which can be changed with your registry hack...but is there anything like google android ID in android .....which can be changed and every app reads that....???
I tried to install via WDRT.. set the location for custom package also. But it won't show the package available on disk. It only says package available on server.
What should i do ?
will it install directly by what is on Rm-xxx folder ?
or I have to do anything else please tell me.
suks said:
I tried to install via WDRT.. set the location for custom package also. But it won't show the package available on disk. It only says package available on server.
What should i do ?
will it install directly by what is on Rm-xxx folder ?
or I have to do anything else please tell me.
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you need to use Nokia Care Suite 5 and higher to accomplish flashing.
edit: ok, ignore this. just see the next post for a good tutorial.
Hi @derausgewanderte,
Nokia Care Suite has become obsolete. Use rather Thor2.
Best regards,
DilanChd said:
Hi @derausgewanderte,
Nokia Care Suite has become obsolete. Use rather Thor2.
Best regards,
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... Really ?
thanks Dilan!

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