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Going insane here. Where is CWM saving my nandroid backups, NOT IN SD/CWM/BACKUPS...

I'm in Astro, I'm in ES, i'm on my computer, no difference. CWM backs up and SAYS IT'S SAVING IN sd/CWM/BACKUPS. I've got nothing in that folder when trying to move the nandroid onto a pc to move to a different phone. This is driving me insane, where are the files sitting!?

FishFan319 said:
I'm in Astro, I'm in ES, i'm on my computer, no difference. CWM backs up and SAYS IT'S SAVING IN sd/CWM/BACKUPS. I've got nothing in that folder when trying to move the nandroid onto a pc to move to a different phone. This is driving me insane, where are the files sitting!?
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I had the same question and someone was kind enough to respond to me. Its located in /mnt/shell/emulated/
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Also in /data/media. This must be linked to /mnt/shell/emulated/

euki69 said:
I had the same question and someone was kind enough to respond to me. Its located in /mnt/shell/emulated/
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It shows empty for me when im in there

Such a hassle imo. One of the reason I am using TWRP recovery.
via xda app

Mine are in:
/mnt/shell/emulated/clockwokrmod/backup

Use a root explorer and you should see it.
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Location of CWM back up in PC?

Since we have limited amount of storage, i would like to know where is the CWM back up stored so that i can simply move it to my desktop and move back when needed.
this way i saved a few hundred MBs and is able to have multiple backups.
I tried connecting via USB and searching thru the directory but couldnt find it (even enable hidden files)
i know the path is sd/CWM/backup
but i cant seem to find CWM either...
It use to work on my sg2 when i save it on my external sd
any idea?
Thanks,

ugotproblemz said:
Since we have limited amount of storage, i would like to know where is the CWM back up stored so that i can simply move it to my desktop and move back when needed.
this way i saved a few hundred MBs and is able to have multiple backups.
I tried connecting via USB and searching thru the directory but couldnt find it (even enable hidden files)
i know the path is sd/CWM/backup
but i cant seem to find CWM either...
It use to work on my sg2 when i save it on my external sd
any idea?
Thanks,
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It's in root folder "/mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod" for me.

not there either for me....shell folder is empty

/data/media

On my 8gb it is in the shell folder. Some root browsers won't see anything in that folder for some reason. Esfile explorer with root privileges wouldn't see it but root explorer would. I used the nexus 4 tool kit to adb pull the backup from the shell folder and onto my PC. Again using the toolkit to push it back onto the phone
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Thanks @ tohg2
Does anyone know how to get to root directory from the comp?

a. Try this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999214
b Simply use a root explorer and cut the clockworkmod folder from "/data/media" into "/data/media/0", then the PC will see it. You will need to cut it back to /data/media if you want to Clockworkmod Recovery to see it though.
c. Copy it using ADB by typing: adb pull /data/media/clockworkmod "C:\clockworkmod"

ugotproblemz said:
Thanks @ tohg2
Does anyone know how to get to root directory from the comp?
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You can't - you'll need to move it from the CWM folder to somewhere a PC can see it and then copy it off from there...ball ache, I know, but it's the only way I've done it since moving to 4.2

damn, it was so much easier on my sg2. internal sd, such a pain in the....

CWM Recovery Issue

I have been reading about how people (including myself) are having issues mounting the SD card with CWM Recovery 6.x.xx and I was wondering where (if it exists) I can find an earlier version for my Nexus 4. The problem I am having is when my phone is connected to my computer, I cant find the Clockwork Mod file to remove the backup from the device. I have the 8GB N4, so I really want to remove it, put it somewhere safe and not have it take up precious space.
If anyone has any thoughts or other solutions, please let me know. I am also having the same issue with TWRP2 (cant mount while in recovery).

toonhead85 said:
I have been reading about how people (including myself) are having issues mounting the SD card with CWM Recovery 6.x.xx and I was wondering where (if it exists) I can find an earlier version for my Nexus 4. The problem I am having is when my phone is connected to my computer, I cant find the Clockwork Mod file to remove the backup from the device. I have the 8GB N4, so I really want to remove it, put it somewhere safe and not have it take up precious space.
If anyone has any thoughts or other solutions, please let me know. I am also having the same issue with TWRP2 (cant mount while in recovery).
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Just download Astro file manager from the Play Store and find the backup and delete it. You can also delete the backup from in recovery as well.
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scream4cheese said:
Just download Astro file manager from the Play Store and find the backup and delete it. You can also delete the backup from in recovery as well.
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I have Root Explorer and can't find the folder on my /sdcard. If I could, I could take the backup and move it, but it doesn't seem to be visible.
I have been thinking, do I need to be rooted to be able to access the folder, or see it for that matter?
And as a side note, I tried TWRP2 and I can see the folder with backups made.

toonhead85 said:
I have Root Explorer and can't find the folder on my /sdcard. If I could, I could take the backup and move it, but it doesn't seem to be visible.
I have been thinking, do I need to be rooted to be able to access the folder, or see it for that matter?
And as a side note, I tried TWRP2 and I can see the folder with backups made.
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I had this same issue as I'm using CWM 6.0.2.0. For whatever reason, they changed the saved backups location to /data/media/clockworkmod now so you can't access it by plugging in your phone because the backups aren't on the sdcard. That's also the reason you can't find it. To my knowledge, you can do two things to get them to your computer:
1. Use ADB to pull the clockworkmod folder to your computer. I still haven't completely figured out how to do that yet as I don't screw around in ADB shell too much and I'm not sure if you have to mount the filesystem before doing it. I'm sure if you search around, you could find the ADB solution.
2. (This solution sucks but it works...) If you have a file manager (like X-plore) and root access, you can copy the contents of /data/media/clockworkmod folder to the sdcard location on your phone. Once it's there, THEN you can access that copy when it's plugged into your computer. Then just get rid of the .nomedia file in the folder and move it from your sdcard to your PC. Simple but takes forever for the files to copy depending on how many backups your moving and how big your blobs folder is.
If someone knows a better way, I'm definitely all ears. Really don't like how they changed CWM to this new style. Makes it a pain to offload backups from your phone to your PC.

Hatzy said:
I had this same issue as I'm using CWM 6.0.2.0. For whatever reason, they changed the saved backups location to /data/media/clockworkmod now so you can't access it by plugging in your phone because the backups aren't on the sdcard. That's also the reason you can't find it. To my knowledge, you can do two things to get them to your computer:
1. Use ADB to pull the clockworkmod folder to your computer. I still haven't completely figured out how to do that yet as I don't screw around in ADB shell too much and I'm not sure if you have to mount the filesystem before doing it. I'm sure if you search around, you could find the ADB solution.
2. (This solution sucks but it works...) If you have a file manager (like X-plore) and root access, you can copy the contents of /data/media/clockworkmod folder to the sdcard location on your phone. Once it's there, THEN you can access that copy when it's plugged into your computer. Then just get rid of the .nomedia file in the folder and move it from your sdcard to your PC. Simple but takes forever for the files to copy depending on how many backups your moving and how big your blobs folder is.
If someone knows a better way, I'm definitely all ears. Really don't like how they changed CWM to this new style. Makes it a pain to offload backups from your phone to your PC.
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I use ROM manager to connect to the server and download my nand directly to my PC.
Sent From a Freaked out Nexus 4

You have an option in cwm uder the backup menu to remove the backups or unused data. It works for me.
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strapped365 said:
I use ROM manager to connect to the server and download my nand directly to my PC.
Sent From a Freaked out Nexus 4
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Didn't even know you could do that. I always just boot to CWM, never use the ROM manager app. That sounds like a paid feature or is it on the free version?
Edit: Yeah, it's a paid feature but I'm seriously considering going this route since it's so damn handy. If I can't figure out how to ADB it, I may just buy the premium version. Thanks bro.
webdo said:
You have an option in cwm uder the backup menu to remove the backups or unused data. It works for me.
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He wants a copy of the backups on his PC before he removes them.

Sorry for my incomplete answer than. I found mine using a root explorer
/mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
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Thanks for all the great tips/answers/comments. I will see what I can do in terms of finding where the backup is stored on my phone now (since it seems there could be two places).
Cheers!!

Hatzy, you can pull the backups using insecure adbd by chainfire [app]. Otherwise, you can only pull sdcard. Or, i believe you can pull via the path /mnt/shell/emulated..

So, after doing some looking... I thiink my best bet is to use Rom Manager's new Download Server feature. I'll give it a try and let everyone know how it works out!!

ADB-puuled CWM backup doesn't match its original size on phone?

Hi all,
I've decided to try and copy my nandroid backup that I made the other day (first ever since I've just rooted my phone) to my PC.
Long story short, I attempted to use Root explorer to cut and paste the backup's folder into a folder that is visible on my PC so I could get a copy onto my PC, and then cut and paste the nandroid back into its original folder (tedious, but I don't have enough space to have 2 copies of the nadroid on my phone at the same time). This, however, fails, and I can't see the backup folder in the folder that I can see on my PC despite it being visible in this same PC-visible folder via root explorer after its supposedly pasted it.
So I went via option 2, using ADB to pull the folder.
After another amount of research I found a path that does pull the folder (mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup .... data/media/clockworkmod/backup = remote object doesn't exist error).
It appears to pull the folder successfully (an identically named folder appears in "platform tools" folder on my PC), however the size of this pulled folder is only ~500mb, and I'm certain the nandroid backup took up at least 3-4GB on my phone after it was created.
The pulled folder also doesn't show all the files that I can see within the nandroid backup's folder via root explorer.
I did notice the "read-only" checkbox of the pulled folder appears filled in, which I take it means not all files in the folder have read-only properties. Is it possible there are (still) hidden files within the pulled folder that would account for the difference in size and number of visible files compared to the original nandroid folder on the phone?
any clarificaion of this would be good - I'm keen to have a copy of my backup on my PC as a safeguard, but this scenario has baffled me despite an hr's worth of research

No one?
Surely someone has an idea about this..

I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
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lolcakes203 said:
I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
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How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.

salxtai said:
How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.
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It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing

lopezk38 said:
It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing
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Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?

salxtai said:
Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?
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For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu

I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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lopezk38 said:
For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu
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After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)

lolcakes203 said:
I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.

salxtai said:
After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)
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You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data

I do have those settings enabled in control panel, but aside from that I'm not sure what else could be there. In terms of USB settings, I have USB debugging enabled in developer options, and in the storage menu I have mtp selected, not the other one. I think that is all the USB settings that I have changed.
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salxtai said:
I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.
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The CWM backup folder shouldn't be able to be accessed with MTP. Android only allows you to access your user's folder (You can only have multiple users on tablets, but the user based file structure is still there) through USB. User folders have a number attached to them to mark which user they are for, which is why you have that folder named 0 with all your stuff in it, because you are user #0. Since CWM backups are saved in a separate branch, Android does not make them available to USB for security reasons. lolcakes203 probably has a modified version of CWM (Or you can change the save directory in CWM? I haven't used CWM in forever), or he has TWRP which saves backups in your user folder so you can access them through USB

Ahh yes I am using PhilZ CWM and that may be why I can see the backup.
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lopezk38 said:
You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data
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Sorry, not sure I'm following the command line instructions - how would this command line look in full?

Any way to get file from non-rooted G5 Plus using PC?

There's a file I need from my phone, but I cannot access it as it requires root and my device is not rooted and never has been. When I read rooting guides they all state to do a wipe. Is there any way to get the file from my phone using my PC even if my phone isn't rooted?

Not sure by your vague description, but do a search of QPST and its sub program QFIL as it is Qualcomm's set of tools for development and working with their chipsets.

[email protected] said:
Not sure by your vague description, but do a search of QPST and its sub program QFIL as it is Qualcomm's set of tools for development and working with their chipsets.
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Vague description?
- There is a file on my phone that I want to copy to my computer
- I am unable to access the file on my phone because it is in a location that requires root
- My phone is not rooted
My question is, is there a method using my pc to access the file even if my phone is not rooted? And if so, what is that method? I'm asking if my PC can get root access to files on my phone even if my phone is not rooted.

devvshukla said:
Is the "file" in [root]/data/ or [root]/system/ or it's in your internal storage and your device is locked down?
If internal then there is no way as it is encrypted.
You can copy some of them from system storage, try some file managers eg FX. I could copy the system apps with their lib from /System/apps to my SD Card.
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I'm not sure where it's located. I was given this info from Roboform support. It's a password manager.
"By default it would be RoboForm/_user-data.rfo on your device if you have root access, the folder location itself varies from device to device."
With FX File Manager I can find two Roboform related folders, but access to both is denied without having root. Their locations are:
System/data/app
System/data/data

If you're looking for wifi passwords, and it sounds like that's what you're after, you're not going to be able to get them without root access.
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riggerman0421 said:
If you're looking for wifi passwords, and it sounds like that's what you're after, you're not going to be able to get them without root access.
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I already stated what the file is. It's my own user data from the password manager app Roboform. I need the file to import the data into the PC version, as my user data was lost. As long as I don't sync the phone app, I still have all of my 211 site logins/passwords saved... but there is no way to recover the data to the PC app without getting that file.
Isn't there a PC app that can create a 1:1 image of everything on my phone, and then another that can open the image to view the files? Or a way to root without having to lose the data in the process?
I'm just trying to avoid having to manually input every single one of my logins & passwords manually, but will if there's no other way. I've gotten about 40 done so far but quit until I got an answer here.

maybe you can use adb to pull the files

plastic_green_head said:
Vague description?
- There is a file on my phone that I want to copy to my computer
- I am unable to access the file on my phone because it is in a location that requires root
- My phone is not rooted
My question is, is there a method using my pc to access the file even if my phone is not rooted? And if so, what is that method? I'm asking if my PC can get root access to files on my phone even if my phone is not rooted.
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Vague in that you did not say it was in
Code:
System/data/app
System/data/data
in your first post. As I posted, QFIL can dump the whole chipset, but getting it to work, and then extracting right file with a hex editor, is pretty involved.

Another option is to try using ADB backup. If the app allows itself to be backed up, then you may be able to extract the relevant files from the backup.

plastic_green_head said:
There's a file I need from my phone, but I cannot access it as it requires root and my device is not rooted and never has been. When I read rooting guides they all state to do a wipe. Is there any way to get the file from my phone using my PC even if my phone isn't rooted?
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Hey, just use Moto lenovo software assistant and back up the file into pc and then access with your computer.

riyan65 said:
Hey, just use Moto lenovo software assistant and back up the file into pc and then access with your computer.
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That won't work as it doesn't provide root access.
42o247 said:
maybe you can use adb to pull the files
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Vague in that you did not say it was in
Code:
System/data/app
System/data/data
in your first post. As I posted, QFIL can dump the whole chipset, but getting it to work, and then extracting right file with a hex editor, is pretty involved.
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NZedPred said:
Another option is to try using ADB backup. If the app allows itself to be backed up, then you may be able to extract the relevant files from the backup.
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Thanks. I don't think I'll mess with QFIL but will give ADB backup a go.

plastic_green_head said:
That won't work as it doesn't provide root access.
Vague in that you did not say it was in
Thanks. I don't think I'll mess with QFIL but will give ADB backup a go.
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You are not vague... simply wrong!
You need the data belonging to an app so if the phone is not rooted and the app isn't a system app their data is under /data/data/APPNAME/
The Lenovo Assistant does an adb backup,nothing more and nothing less.

nicolap8 said:
You are not vague... simply wrong!
You need the data belonging to an app so if the phone is not rooted and the app isn't a system app their data is under /data/data/APPNAME/
The Lenovo Assistant does an adb backup,nothing more and nothing less.
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Zero idea what you're trying to say there. You also quoted me as saying something that another poster said. What exactly am I "simply wrong!" about? I stated that I can see the location of the folders on my phone, but that I cannot enter into the folders because I do not have root access. "Access Denied". Someone told me to use Lenovo MOTO Smart Assistant, so I figured they were telling me to simply use it to browse my phones directory and copy the file to my computer. Naturally, if I browse my phone with the app it does not give me root access, thus I am unable to even see data/app/APPNAME or data/data/APPNAME. The person who suggested it did not mention anything about using it to create a backup. You stated that it "does an adb backup,nothing more and nothing less." which is completely incorrect. You're the one that's wrong here. The assistant does NOT do a complete adb backup. In fact the only things you can backup using it are contacts, sms, pics, music, video, and apps. Plus it does much more. Not "nothing more and nothing less" as you stated.
Roboform creates folders in the system partition. Are you telling me I'm wrong about where the folders are located? Wrong that the assistant app doesn't even let me see system folders? Wrong that it can't be used to create a full backup? Wrong that it does more than let you back up non-system files? Because I'm not wrong about a single one of those things.
Soooooooo. That brings me to having a full backup using adb command line, but no way to extract it's contents. I tried this but the unpack feature does absolutely nothing & the main interface doesn't even see my phone. Not to mention the install is bug ridden. It creates folders in the wrong locations & with the wrong names, so I needed to manually rename & move files because the app would crash trying to find files needed to run. https://github.com/camalot/droidexplorer
Is there any way to easily unpack the backup? If not I'll just give up on this and manually input the remaining 100+ passwords one by one from my phones screen to my PC. LoL.

plastic_green_head said:
Roboform creates folders in the system partition.
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I don't think so! No app modifies /system, it requires root access to do.
Your data is in /data/data/roboform folder.
Do the backup:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Unpack the data:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011811

nicolap8 said:
I don't think so! No app modifies /system, it requires root access to do.
Your data is in /data/data/roboform folder.
Do the backup:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Unpack the data:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011811
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Didn't need the first link. I said I already have an adb backup. You still didn't tell me what I was previously wrong about. The file locations? I'm going by where FX File Manager tells me it's located, which says System/data/app. Does it really matter anyway? I see them, I just can't open them without rooting & once I get the extracting stuff set up I will know where to look for them. A 100% technically (in)accurate location name was irrelevant to even point out as being "not vague, just wrong".

plastic_green_head said:
Didn't need the first link. I said I already have an adb backup. You still didn't tell me what I was previously wrong about. The file locations? I'm going by where FX File Manager tells me it's located, which says System/data/app. Does it really matter anyway? I see them, I just can't open them without rooting & once I get the extracting stuff set up I will know where to look for them. A 100% technically (in)accurate location name was irrelevant to even point out as being "not vague, just wrong".
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This is relevant, the Roboform app
a) was installed by you
b) it's an app that already was on phone
???