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[Q] Unable to see the Clockworkmod folder in windows or on the phone

Hey guys.
First of all, sorry if this has been asked before. I googled a lot and searched here and couldn't find this particular problem.
My Nexus 4 is running stock 4.2. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and running ClockworkMod 6.0.1.9. Everything worked perfectly. My only problem right now is, after making a nandroid backup, I cannot see the clockworkmod folder anywhere on the phone when browsing either in windows or with ES File Explorer. I think by now I looked everywhere. Everything else in this regard seems to work fine, I can copy files, the other folders are all correct etc. I can also see and delete/restore the backup in CWM recovery. All I want is to see the folder to get it off the phone. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

You can find it in mnt/shell/emulated it is protected so you will need a file explorer that can give you root access. I use ES File Explorer.

Found it. Thank you very much.

Its also in /data/media/clockworkmod for whatever reason, hope this gets fixed soon.

Is there any way to copy those CWM backup folders to your computer? I tried to use Root Explorer to move the backup folders to the main sdcard/0 folder but I still cannot see it when I move the file Am I doing something wrong or is it not possible to move it to the sdcard/0?

Yeah I'm also still not too sure how to get it off the phone easily.

Chill4xed said:
Yeah I'm also still not too sure how to get it off the phone easily.
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easiest way would probably be to just use the toolkit, unless you're opposed to such things.

Is this why ROM manager can't delte my backups? It seems them but I get an error saying "there was an error deleting your backup"
Edit: new update fixes this issue with ROM manager

man we need to get it move to a pc. i'd like to save some space since its our phone have maximum 12.9gb at our disposal.
btw, i tried Root Browser Lite to move it on sdcard area... operation failed

I had the same problem. My internal SD card just kept getting fuller and fuller with ClockwordMod. And, when I tried to copy the files from /mnt/shell/emulated/clockwork to my comp, and copy them back to the SD card to try and Restore, I ended up with corrupted files.
So, rather than fight it, I decided to wait until Clockwordmod recovery got its storage/mount point issues straightened out, and moved to the TWRP side of things. That has been seamless (once I got used to it).
I hope that they soon figure out the Clockwordmod issues; I liked having ROM Manager installed on past phones.
Btw, as an aside that is a little related, why, pray tell, are there so many mount points for the SD card? It's just weird.

just navigate the clockwordmod folder in your phone and copy it to the root of the internal memory.. connect the phone via usb into the computer and copy it

BY FAR, the easiest way is:
Chill4xed said:
My Nexus 4 is running stock 4.2. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and running ClockworkMod 6.0.1.9. Everything worked perfectly. My only problem right now is, after making a nandroid backup, I cannot see the clockworkmod folder anywhere on the phone when browsing either in windows or with ES File Explorer. I think by now I looked everywhere. Everything else in this regard seems to work fine, I can copy files, the other folders are all correct etc. I can also see and delete/restore the backup in CWM recovery. All I want is to see the folder to get it off the phone. Any ideas?
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BY FAR the easiest way: in ROM Manager, Manage and Restore Backups>Download Backups>Open your desktop browser on the address informed by ROM Manager to download your backup.

Thanks to everyone, going to the directories works and the rom manager app is aware of the new cwm backup folder.

Going insane here. Where is CWM saving my nandroid backups, NOT IN SD/CWM/BACKUPS...

I'm in Astro, I'm in ES, i'm on my computer, no difference. CWM backs up and SAYS IT'S SAVING IN sd/CWM/BACKUPS. I've got nothing in that folder when trying to move the nandroid onto a pc to move to a different phone. This is driving me insane, where are the files sitting!?

FishFan319 said:
I'm in Astro, I'm in ES, i'm on my computer, no difference. CWM backs up and SAYS IT'S SAVING IN sd/CWM/BACKUPS. I've got nothing in that folder when trying to move the nandroid onto a pc to move to a different phone. This is driving me insane, where are the files sitting!?
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I had the same question and someone was kind enough to respond to me. Its located in /mnt/shell/emulated/
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Also in /data/media. This must be linked to /mnt/shell/emulated/

euki69 said:
I had the same question and someone was kind enough to respond to me. Its located in /mnt/shell/emulated/
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It shows empty for me when im in there

Such a hassle imo. One of the reason I am using TWRP recovery.
via xda app

Mine are in:
/mnt/shell/emulated/clockwokrmod/backup

Use a root explorer and you should see it.
Sent from my R800x

Cannot find clockworkmod folder. Read all XDA threads already.

Hello guys,
I want to flash a custom ROM and I have made a Nandroid Backup using the latest clockworkmod.
I cannot seem to find the clockworkmod folder on my phone. Funny thing is that when I use restore option in the CWM, it shows the path of the backup as sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
Already tried checking data/media, but my data folder doesnt have a media subfolder.
Any suggestions?
PS: I use ES File Explorer and I did check the 'Hidden Files' option in it. Using CWM 6.0.2.3
PPS: I had flashed CWM 6.0.2.3 on 6.0.1.9
-Thanks!

try /mnt/shell/emulated/

croques said:
try /mnt/shell/emulated/
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emulated doesn't exist in /mnt/shell/
Should I try reflashing the CWM?
I have storage/emulated/. Even that doesn't contain cwm folder though.
So weird.

w1ndhawk said:
emulated doesn't exist in /mnt/shell/
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it does on mine? And clockworkmod is there as a directory.
w1ndhawk said:
Should I try reflashing the CWM?
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No; it'll be there somewhere. Poke around.
Are you sure ES file Explorer is set to allow / (root) exploration?

croques said:
it does on mine? And clockworkmod is there as a directory.
No; it'll be there somewhere. Poke around.
Are you sure ES file Explorer is set to allow / (root) exploration?
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Root Explorer wasn't enabled x_x. Sorry, first android ever! Haha!
Yes, now I can see clockworkmod/backups in the mnt/shell/emulated. Thanks a million.
Emulated folder contains almost all the folders/files that are present on my SD Card. Could you explain what is emulated folder though and why isn't the cwm folder just stored in sdcard/clockworkmod/backups? I have a nexus 4.
And off topic but: after I take a nandroid backup, I should probably save it on my computer right? And of course, that begs another question. How can I find this file through windows explorer?
Further, how do I manually explore paths (by typing it in) on the android. Or do I have to keep changing home directory in settings?
Sorry for so many question. I know what its like to having to answer to noobs

w1ndhawk said:
Could you explain what is emulated folder though and why isn't the cwm folder just stored in sdcard/clockworkmod/backups? I have a nexus 4.
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Someone more knowledgeable will be along in a minute.
w1ndhawk said:
And off topic but: after I take a nandroid backup, I should probably save it on my computer right? And of course, that begs another question. How can I find this file through windows explorer?
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You can't use Windoze explorer AFAIK.
I use adb. Since you've rooted your phone... adb must be set up. Open a command window in Windows (run cmd -w) (I don't use Windoze so you're on your own a bit here) and type
Code:
adb shell
You then can use 'ls' and 'cd <directory>' to see what's there and move around.
You'll probably want to use 'adb pull <foldername>' at some time to get the backup onto your PC. Google around for adb commands. I've spoon fed you enough to be getting on with.
w1ndhawk said:
Further, how do I manually explore paths (by typing it in) on the android. Or do I have to keep changing home directory in settings?
Sorry for so many question. I know what its like to having to answer to noobs
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Sorry; I don't understand the question. And knowledge it like a mosaic floor covered in sand... you've spent your time clearing sand and finding whats beneath a different part from me. No noob should need to apologize in a nice forum.

Get rid of CWM and use TWRP. It's much better and stores backups in the proper location (virtual SD) which you can browse with Windows

Your clockworkmod backups will be in /data/media/clockworkmod

Yep, time for me to research on my own. Enough spoon feeding.
Instead of using commands, I just copy pasted the backup created by CWM to my sdcard using ES Root Explorer so that I could see it using Windows Explorer.
Will give TWRP a try in the future though.
The question about ES file explorer was, how can I explore the file system by typing in the path manually. For example, in windows you can manually type in the path in windows explorer and it will take you there.
EDIT:
The copying thing doesn't work. I think I will have to flash TWRP.
EDIT 2:
Tried again and it DID WORK!!! (the copying thing) Using TWRP is obviously easier though.

w1ndhawk said:
Yep, time for me to research on my own. Enough spoon feeding.
Instead of using commands, I just copy pasted the backup created by CWM to my sdcard using ES Root Explorer so that I could see it using Windows Explorer.
Will give TWRP a try in the future though.
The question about ES file explorer was, how can I explore the file system by typing in the path manually. For example, in windows you can manually type in the path in windows explorer and it will take you there.
EDIT:
The copying thing doesn't work. I think I will have to flash TWRP.
EDIT 2:
Tried again and it DID WORK!!! (the copying thing) Using TWRP is obviously easier though.
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Oops. Missed the part about you already checking /data/.

w1ndhawk said:
The copying thing doesn't work. I think I will have to flash TWRP.
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With Nexus 4, Google have seen fit not to implement a USB browsable file system.
It seems to be the trend for Android. I don't think TWRP will help much.
The only way to 'easily' get stuff is to master adb. Although in linux there's this.
Perhaps someone else has a Windoze alternative.

croques said:
With Nexus 4, Google have seen fit not to implement a USB browsable file system.
It seems to be the trend for Android. I don't think TWRP will help much.
The only way to 'easily' get stuff is to master adb. Although in linux there's this.
Perhaps someone else has a Windoze alternative.
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The SD partition is perfectly accessible through MTP

Michealtbh said:
The SD partition is perfectly accessible through MTP
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And MTP is perfectly accessible through nothing.
(I swear, I just want to back hand smack the person who thought their creation called "MTP" was a good thing. MTP = Massive Trauma Protocol)

CWM Recovery Issue

I have been reading about how people (including myself) are having issues mounting the SD card with CWM Recovery 6.x.xx and I was wondering where (if it exists) I can find an earlier version for my Nexus 4. The problem I am having is when my phone is connected to my computer, I cant find the Clockwork Mod file to remove the backup from the device. I have the 8GB N4, so I really want to remove it, put it somewhere safe and not have it take up precious space.
If anyone has any thoughts or other solutions, please let me know. I am also having the same issue with TWRP2 (cant mount while in recovery).

toonhead85 said:
I have been reading about how people (including myself) are having issues mounting the SD card with CWM Recovery 6.x.xx and I was wondering where (if it exists) I can find an earlier version for my Nexus 4. The problem I am having is when my phone is connected to my computer, I cant find the Clockwork Mod file to remove the backup from the device. I have the 8GB N4, so I really want to remove it, put it somewhere safe and not have it take up precious space.
If anyone has any thoughts or other solutions, please let me know. I am also having the same issue with TWRP2 (cant mount while in recovery).
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Just download Astro file manager from the Play Store and find the backup and delete it. You can also delete the backup from in recovery as well.
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scream4cheese said:
Just download Astro file manager from the Play Store and find the backup and delete it. You can also delete the backup from in recovery as well.
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I have Root Explorer and can't find the folder on my /sdcard. If I could, I could take the backup and move it, but it doesn't seem to be visible.
I have been thinking, do I need to be rooted to be able to access the folder, or see it for that matter?
And as a side note, I tried TWRP2 and I can see the folder with backups made.

toonhead85 said:
I have Root Explorer and can't find the folder on my /sdcard. If I could, I could take the backup and move it, but it doesn't seem to be visible.
I have been thinking, do I need to be rooted to be able to access the folder, or see it for that matter?
And as a side note, I tried TWRP2 and I can see the folder with backups made.
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I had this same issue as I'm using CWM 6.0.2.0. For whatever reason, they changed the saved backups location to /data/media/clockworkmod now so you can't access it by plugging in your phone because the backups aren't on the sdcard. That's also the reason you can't find it. To my knowledge, you can do two things to get them to your computer:
1. Use ADB to pull the clockworkmod folder to your computer. I still haven't completely figured out how to do that yet as I don't screw around in ADB shell too much and I'm not sure if you have to mount the filesystem before doing it. I'm sure if you search around, you could find the ADB solution.
2. (This solution sucks but it works...) If you have a file manager (like X-plore) and root access, you can copy the contents of /data/media/clockworkmod folder to the sdcard location on your phone. Once it's there, THEN you can access that copy when it's plugged into your computer. Then just get rid of the .nomedia file in the folder and move it from your sdcard to your PC. Simple but takes forever for the files to copy depending on how many backups your moving and how big your blobs folder is.
If someone knows a better way, I'm definitely all ears. Really don't like how they changed CWM to this new style. Makes it a pain to offload backups from your phone to your PC.

Hatzy said:
I had this same issue as I'm using CWM 6.0.2.0. For whatever reason, they changed the saved backups location to /data/media/clockworkmod now so you can't access it by plugging in your phone because the backups aren't on the sdcard. That's also the reason you can't find it. To my knowledge, you can do two things to get them to your computer:
1. Use ADB to pull the clockworkmod folder to your computer. I still haven't completely figured out how to do that yet as I don't screw around in ADB shell too much and I'm not sure if you have to mount the filesystem before doing it. I'm sure if you search around, you could find the ADB solution.
2. (This solution sucks but it works...) If you have a file manager (like X-plore) and root access, you can copy the contents of /data/media/clockworkmod folder to the sdcard location on your phone. Once it's there, THEN you can access that copy when it's plugged into your computer. Then just get rid of the .nomedia file in the folder and move it from your sdcard to your PC. Simple but takes forever for the files to copy depending on how many backups your moving and how big your blobs folder is.
If someone knows a better way, I'm definitely all ears. Really don't like how they changed CWM to this new style. Makes it a pain to offload backups from your phone to your PC.
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I use ROM manager to connect to the server and download my nand directly to my PC.
Sent From a Freaked out Nexus 4

You have an option in cwm uder the backup menu to remove the backups or unused data. It works for me.
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strapped365 said:
I use ROM manager to connect to the server and download my nand directly to my PC.
Sent From a Freaked out Nexus 4
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Didn't even know you could do that. I always just boot to CWM, never use the ROM manager app. That sounds like a paid feature or is it on the free version?
Edit: Yeah, it's a paid feature but I'm seriously considering going this route since it's so damn handy. If I can't figure out how to ADB it, I may just buy the premium version. Thanks bro.
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You have an option in cwm uder the backup menu to remove the backups or unused data. It works for me.
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He wants a copy of the backups on his PC before he removes them.

Sorry for my incomplete answer than. I found mine using a root explorer
/mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
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Thanks for all the great tips/answers/comments. I will see what I can do in terms of finding where the backup is stored on my phone now (since it seems there could be two places).
Cheers!!

Hatzy, you can pull the backups using insecure adbd by chainfire [app]. Otherwise, you can only pull sdcard. Or, i believe you can pull via the path /mnt/shell/emulated..

So, after doing some looking... I thiink my best bet is to use Rom Manager's new Download Server feature. I'll give it a try and let everyone know how it works out!!

ADB-puuled CWM backup doesn't match its original size on phone?

Hi all,
I've decided to try and copy my nandroid backup that I made the other day (first ever since I've just rooted my phone) to my PC.
Long story short, I attempted to use Root explorer to cut and paste the backup's folder into a folder that is visible on my PC so I could get a copy onto my PC, and then cut and paste the nandroid back into its original folder (tedious, but I don't have enough space to have 2 copies of the nadroid on my phone at the same time). This, however, fails, and I can't see the backup folder in the folder that I can see on my PC despite it being visible in this same PC-visible folder via root explorer after its supposedly pasted it.
So I went via option 2, using ADB to pull the folder.
After another amount of research I found a path that does pull the folder (mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup .... data/media/clockworkmod/backup = remote object doesn't exist error).
It appears to pull the folder successfully (an identically named folder appears in "platform tools" folder on my PC), however the size of this pulled folder is only ~500mb, and I'm certain the nandroid backup took up at least 3-4GB on my phone after it was created.
The pulled folder also doesn't show all the files that I can see within the nandroid backup's folder via root explorer.
I did notice the "read-only" checkbox of the pulled folder appears filled in, which I take it means not all files in the folder have read-only properties. Is it possible there are (still) hidden files within the pulled folder that would account for the difference in size and number of visible files compared to the original nandroid folder on the phone?
any clarificaion of this would be good - I'm keen to have a copy of my backup on my PC as a safeguard, but this scenario has baffled me despite an hr's worth of research

No one?
Surely someone has an idea about this..

I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
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lolcakes203 said:
I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
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How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.

salxtai said:
How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.
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It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing

lopezk38 said:
It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing
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Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?

salxtai said:
Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?
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For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu

I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu
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After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)

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I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.

salxtai said:
After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)
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You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data

I do have those settings enabled in control panel, but aside from that I'm not sure what else could be there. In terms of USB settings, I have USB debugging enabled in developer options, and in the storage menu I have mtp selected, not the other one. I think that is all the USB settings that I have changed.
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salxtai said:
I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.
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The CWM backup folder shouldn't be able to be accessed with MTP. Android only allows you to access your user's folder (You can only have multiple users on tablets, but the user based file structure is still there) through USB. User folders have a number attached to them to mark which user they are for, which is why you have that folder named 0 with all your stuff in it, because you are user #0. Since CWM backups are saved in a separate branch, Android does not make them available to USB for security reasons. lolcakes203 probably has a modified version of CWM (Or you can change the save directory in CWM? I haven't used CWM in forever), or he has TWRP which saves backups in your user folder so you can access them through USB

Ahh yes I am using PhilZ CWM and that may be why I can see the backup.
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lopezk38 said:
You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data
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Sorry, not sure I'm following the command line instructions - how would this command line look in full?