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Some help would be appreciated [root etc]

Hi guys! Got an A1 dirt cheap, and oh my god is it the perfect lovebaby from pure android and xiaomi design (cough apple cough).
I'm not completely new to rooting, flashing, etc. but there seems to be quite some difference between A1 and my old HTC 10, so I'd like to gather some info from you guys.
So, ideally I'd like to have/do this:
stick to stock rom and kernel, no issues there. also, staying on 8.0 is no problem, no need to upgrade to 9.0 whenever that comes around.
get TWRP going, so I can; get xposed and root
somehow keep netflix and snapchat going after root, now I know that rooted devices can't, but I'm hoping you guys know something I don't.
I'm used to rooting with SuperSU, no particular reason other than habit. I see a lot of magisk going around here, are there specific benefits to it? And why do we need to flash an .img for rooting, I could straight up root after unlocking bootloader on my HTC 10.
Kind regards

I can only provide you some info about magisk. People here tends to root with magisk maybe because its features. It can install mods systemlessly. You can google what is that. And basically for me, magisk is easy to use. We can find mods easily from Downloads section and manage mods with ease. And for me a custom ROM user, magisk its a must . And I never use xposed on a1 because when not careful enough it can make bootloop. No one like bootloop.
And yeah, Mi A1 is a beauty, especially the design (Cough apple cough) hahaha

What is this treble i'm seeing all over the XDA forums?

Hey everyone I just wanted to ask what this trebel label means, my lack of understanding and research tells me its kinda like OTA but for a more secure way to push updates to devices? being someone who has been using my device fine, am just a bit wonderous wondering what this Trebel means for my favorite ROM, Recovery and Kernel

dalebaxter01 said:
Hey everyone I just wanted to ask what this trebel label means, my lack of understanding and research tells me its kinda like OTA but for a more secure way to push updates to devices? being someone who has been using my device fine, am just a bit wonderous wondering what this Trebel means for my favorite ROM, Recovery and Kernel
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for the moment, forget about it
it's very green and brings more troubles than solutions or any gain in particular. We will see how things develop with time.
You can read more about treble in here
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-project-treble-revolutionizes-custom-roms-android-oreo/

bornlivedie said:
for the moment, forget about it
it's very green and brings more troubles than solutions or any gain in particular. We will see how things develop with time.
You can read more about treble in here
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-project-treble-revolutionizes-custom-roms-android-oreo/
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Reading the article I'm still a bit confused by what all this would mean for the end user, I really enjoy AEX since I moved from RR and it seems like this is the "latest and greatest" type of situation, yeah okay launches are tough but when everything smoothed out what would this treble allow us all to do?

dalebaxter01 said:
Reading the article I'm still a bit confused by what all this would mean for the end user, I really enjoy AEX since I moved from RR and it seems like this is the "latest and greatest" type of situation, yeah okay launches are tough but when everything smoothed out what would this treble allow us all to do?
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In reality, it means little to the end user. It could theoretically mean that ROMS require less development time, since all roms in theory are based on a single image.
You can kinda of see this with Google's OEM Partners. At Google I/O they listed a number of partner OEMs that were the first to use treble and for the most part they have released upgrades quicker and more reliably then there non-treble counter parts. This also can be extended to the modding community and in general means that porting roms and developing them on a new phone should be easier.
This is all part of a bigger push by Google to gain uniformity across devices. They started requiring security updates in there SLA's and now are pushing treble.

Trebles's All the benifits goes to vendor and stock rom users Rights. As we are Custom Rom users what are the benefits we getting from Treble Projects?

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/13/project-treble-impact-android-custom-rom-community/

alwynjoshy said:
Trebles's All the benifits goes to vendor and stock rom users Rights. As we are Custom Rom users what are the benefits we getting from Treble Projects?
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In the future you will be able to flash the custom treble image specific for your hardware, and then a GSI (Generic System Image) of your choice: RR, AEX, DU, Tesla, etc... that will be generic and able to be flashed in any hardware. That means that GSI development teams will be able to maintain their roms and apply the security fixes without the need to create custom rom versions for each hardware. So, finally we will have real OTA updates for custom ROMs. We all hope LineageOS 16 to have more or less this philosophy too. Well see it in September.
So, benefits for the user:
More ROMs to choose for your device (actually all of them!!!)
More frequent upgrades from custom GSI teams.

Oki said:
In the future you will be able to flash the custom treble image specific for your hardware, and then a GSI (Generic System Image) of your choice: RR, AEX, DU, Tesla, etc... that will be generic and able to be flashed in any hardware. That means that GSI development teams will be able to maintain their roms and apply the security fixes without the need to create custom rom versions for each hardware. So, finally we will have real OTA updates for custom ROMs. We all hope LineageOS 16 to have more or less this philosophy too. Well see it in September.
So, benefits for the user:
More ROMs to choose for your device (actually all of them!!!)
More frequent upgrades from custom GSI teams.
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thanks you well explained ?️.
I have question, If we flashed treble once, are we able to flash any treble based rom, for example any devices treble roms

alwynjoshy said:
thanks you well explained ?️.
I have question, If we flashed treble once, are we able to flash any treble based rom, for example any devices treble roms
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Once you have the Treble framework in place and have then flashed a device specific vendor image you can from that point on flash any GSI ROM. The thing to note is that so far NFound's Treble ROMs have included vendor image files in them which makes them device specific, you need to check for and remove any vendor image files from Treble ROMs created for other devices if you wish to try the ROM on a device other than what it was made for.

alwynjoshy said:
thanks you well explained ?️.
I have question, If we flashed treble once, are we able to flash any treble based rom, for example any devices treble roms
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A treble rom is hardware specific, so you cant flash a treble rom designed for a different device. Only GSIs are compatible with multiple devices, and it is this way since the hardware dependant part is only in the treble rom.
Right now there are not fully treble roms available for the Axon7. The currently available roms labeled as treble are delivered and work as a usual full rom. The treble and system parts are still mixed up in those roms. It will take some time until we could enjoy a fully wotking treble rom in the Axon7.

is it even worth unlocking bootloader on psmart?

Is it worth unlocking bootloader on psmart? Fig lx1. I ask as it doesn't look like we got much support around here. For example: do we have Los 16? Pie? Or any other Android 9 custom ROMs?
What benefits have you reaped from unlocking?
Are you back in stock?

psmart has treble support so there are a whole bunch of GSI'S and the Openkirin project roms you can flash The problem with our device is camera .....therr are ports and hacks but nothing 100% ...
however its worth it unlocking just to get magisk & twrp for modding and ful device control ..

REAL Treble for kenzo. MKGA (Make Kenzo Great Again).

so after long searching it finally clear to me that
- treble partition and recovery are available
- Can flash GSI/Treble rom but with quirks, e.g. bluetooth, hotspot not working
- Missing shims? Updated vendor partition?
so we need a great dev to work on it??

if great dev starts the project and start a pool for collecting $$$ as support i'll gladly donate $10us I'm sure more people will join too....
especially now that MIUI has finally released the final version https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-3-final-miui-10-stable-update/

optionalmgrr.la said:
if great dev starts the project and start a pool for collecting $$$ as support i'll gladly donate $10us I'm sure more people will join too....
especially now that MIUI has finally released the final version https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-3-final-miui-10-stable-update/
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Who gonna rewrite vendor code? Its not devs work. It comes from vendor and silicon manufacturer. They knows their hardware. So they work closely with google to write vendor blobs.
Why u want treble rom? Flashing gsi doesnt give u more performance and stabilty. They are more buggy than non treble rom. Non treble rom are device specific so have less bugs.
Kenzo will get android 10 and thats enough. After that 5g phones will hit the market and all will rush for it. So dont assume kenzo will survive till 2050 if we make it treble :laugh:

5G is going to be a flop like 3D TV.
If there is official LineageOS 16.0 then it's ok, but all other ROMs are too flicky they don't even support SELinux.
All those 1000s of different ROMs are basically the same base just add on top different customizations. That's why all 9.0 ROM are SELinux permissive.
In short, too many fancy half-working stuffs without any substance. We need a substantiated deve to help us out of this mess......

optionalmgrr.la said:
5G is going to be a flop like 3D TV.
If there is official LineageOS 16.0 then it's ok, but all other ROMs are too flicky they don't even support SELinux.
All those 1000s of different ROMs are basically the same base just add on top different customizations. That's why all 9.0 ROM are SELinux permissive.
In short, too many fancy half-working stuffs without any substance. We need a substantiated deve to help us out of this mess......
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Do u even know how selinux works.
What do u mean they dont even support selinux.? Every rom has selinux support since kitkat.
Why dont u write ur perfect selinux policy and help to this devs so that it can be enforced on pie.
And whats there in lineage official rom which other roms dont have. Lineage official has its rules which cant be met for older phones which has old vendor blobs. Difficult to get official status.
And Who really give damn about lineage official.
Other roms are more customizable and have far more better and miles ahead in features then los rom.
And what u mean by mess? Xiaomi gave mm blobs coz official miui on android 6. Then from where we will get latest code if qualcomm is not updating code for sd650.
Only stuff is broken on pie is Vilte. If u have selinux priority then use Citrus.

ok thx

Forget about project trouble for our kenzo

Any AOSP roms?

Hi all, I'm wondering why we haven't any AOSP roms or ports from Pixel? I like one ui and all this staff but pure android seems to me be more exciting, even on our galaxies

You can use GSI roms on all Treble devices , use A/B scheme, even Android Q at your own risk , greater if you own a Exynos S10+

rangemogger said:
You can use GSI roms on all Treble devices , use A/B scheme, even Android Q at your own risk , greater if you own a Exynos S10+
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Im okay even with Android Pie, but still we dint have even it (roms ports). Can you actually explain smth about gsi roms? As i understood we need to cimpile it with our kernel etc. ?

You can find many GSI here https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development and If a custom recovery is required use this https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-3-3-0-galaxy-s10-exynos-t3924856 ...at the moment it scares me

rangemogger said:
You can find many GSI here https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development and If a custom recovery is required use this https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-3-3-0-galaxy-s10-exynos-t3924856 ...at the moment it scares me
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Yeah, i checked it(twrp) up, it's really strange and scares) on htc hero it was much easy xD and about gsi seems that it really can work, maybe someday will try, if anybody haven't do it yet

More development here https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/project-treble-s10-t3923946