Is it worth unlocking bootloader on psmart? Fig lx1. I ask as it doesn't look like we got much support around here. For example: do we have Los 16? Pie? Or any other Android 9 custom ROMs?
What benefits have you reaped from unlocking?
Are you back in stock?
psmart has treble support so there are a whole bunch of GSI'S and the Openkirin project roms you can flash The problem with our device is camera .....therr are ports and hacks but nothing 100% ...
however its worth it unlocking just to get magisk & twrp for modding and ful device control ..
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So I just confirmed with Phhusson Treble ROMs working on our Taimen.
Taimen was long time the only device that supported Treble but could not benefit from Treble based ROMs becuase of verified boot, but a way around it has just been confirmed working.
See https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/master/target/board/treble_common.mk#52 for the code behind it
And this vbmeta.img from Phhusson allows bypassing verified boot https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=890129502657591211 this image is to be flashed to vbimage partition right after flashing treble system image
Credits to Phhusson for the code and work on Treble
Credits to me for all the testing and debugging
Credits to MishaalRahman for the idea
So what does any of this mean? Pixels run stock android as stock rom anyway?
True, currently it doesn't make much sense to use Phh rom over stock, but Treble might make things much easier for custom ROM devs and future ROMs once support from Google ends.
Cheers
Cool! Does this potentially mean that possibly custom ROMs would be able to be flashed on locked bootloaders
slogar25 said:
Cool! Does this potentially mean that possibly custom ROMs would be able to be flashed on locked bootloaders
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No
I mean yea this is all well and good but until we have an img we can flash with fastboot to give us access to all (samsung, htc, lge, MIUI) custom spins of android this really won't attract much attention. I'm looking forward to it as much as you, since we can poke and prod at these vendor images to find a way to simplify ROM creation. However I have yet to encounter such images. I guess I'm pretty new to this stuff so maybe there's someone out there with access to the latest samsung vendor images.
The concept of flashing a single vendor.img to the bootloader to switch android 'spins' is in itself an extrEMELY attrActive one. I hope the android gods bless us with such a revalation.
i tried it with rr treble but does not work for me.
i clean flashed all , do a factory reset . After that i flash system image to system . And now? vbmeta flash in twrp to boot or vendor?
I have the same question.
Punraz_ said:
i tried it with rr treble but does not work for me.
i clean flashed all , do a factory reset . After that i flash system image to system . And now? vbmeta flash in twrp to boot or vendor?
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Hey everyone I just wanted to ask what this trebel label means, my lack of understanding and research tells me its kinda like OTA but for a more secure way to push updates to devices? being someone who has been using my device fine, am just a bit wonderous wondering what this Trebel means for my favorite ROM, Recovery and Kernel
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Hey everyone I just wanted to ask what this trebel label means, my lack of understanding and research tells me its kinda like OTA but for a more secure way to push updates to devices? being someone who has been using my device fine, am just a bit wonderous wondering what this Trebel means for my favorite ROM, Recovery and Kernel
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for the moment, forget about it
it's very green and brings more troubles than solutions or any gain in particular. We will see how things develop with time.
You can read more about treble in here
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-project-treble-revolutionizes-custom-roms-android-oreo/
bornlivedie said:
for the moment, forget about it
it's very green and brings more troubles than solutions or any gain in particular. We will see how things develop with time.
You can read more about treble in here
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-project-treble-revolutionizes-custom-roms-android-oreo/
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Reading the article I'm still a bit confused by what all this would mean for the end user, I really enjoy AEX since I moved from RR and it seems like this is the "latest and greatest" type of situation, yeah okay launches are tough but when everything smoothed out what would this treble allow us all to do?
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Reading the article I'm still a bit confused by what all this would mean for the end user, I really enjoy AEX since I moved from RR and it seems like this is the "latest and greatest" type of situation, yeah okay launches are tough but when everything smoothed out what would this treble allow us all to do?
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In reality, it means little to the end user. It could theoretically mean that ROMS require less development time, since all roms in theory are based on a single image.
You can kinda of see this with Google's OEM Partners. At Google I/O they listed a number of partner OEMs that were the first to use treble and for the most part they have released upgrades quicker and more reliably then there non-treble counter parts. This also can be extended to the modding community and in general means that porting roms and developing them on a new phone should be easier.
This is all part of a bigger push by Google to gain uniformity across devices. They started requiring security updates in there SLA's and now are pushing treble.
Trebles's All the benifits goes to vendor and stock rom users Rights. As we are Custom Rom users what are the benefits we getting from Treble Projects?
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/13/project-treble-impact-android-custom-rom-community/
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Trebles's All the benifits goes to vendor and stock rom users Rights. As we are Custom Rom users what are the benefits we getting from Treble Projects?
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In the future you will be able to flash the custom treble image specific for your hardware, and then a GSI (Generic System Image) of your choice: RR, AEX, DU, Tesla, etc... that will be generic and able to be flashed in any hardware. That means that GSI development teams will be able to maintain their roms and apply the security fixes without the need to create custom rom versions for each hardware. So, finally we will have real OTA updates for custom ROMs. We all hope LineageOS 16 to have more or less this philosophy too. Well see it in September.
So, benefits for the user:
More ROMs to choose for your device (actually all of them!!!)
More frequent upgrades from custom GSI teams.
Oki said:
In the future you will be able to flash the custom treble image specific for your hardware, and then a GSI (Generic System Image) of your choice: RR, AEX, DU, Tesla, etc... that will be generic and able to be flashed in any hardware. That means that GSI development teams will be able to maintain their roms and apply the security fixes without the need to create custom rom versions for each hardware. So, finally we will have real OTA updates for custom ROMs. We all hope LineageOS 16 to have more or less this philosophy too. Well see it in September.
So, benefits for the user:
More ROMs to choose for your device (actually all of them!!!)
More frequent upgrades from custom GSI teams.
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thanks you well explained ?️.
I have question, If we flashed treble once, are we able to flash any treble based rom, for example any devices treble roms
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thanks you well explained ?️.
I have question, If we flashed treble once, are we able to flash any treble based rom, for example any devices treble roms
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Once you have the Treble framework in place and have then flashed a device specific vendor image you can from that point on flash any GSI ROM. The thing to note is that so far NFound's Treble ROMs have included vendor image files in them which makes them device specific, you need to check for and remove any vendor image files from Treble ROMs created for other devices if you wish to try the ROM on a device other than what it was made for.
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thanks you well explained ?️.
I have question, If we flashed treble once, are we able to flash any treble based rom, for example any devices treble roms
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A treble rom is hardware specific, so you cant flash a treble rom designed for a different device. Only GSIs are compatible with multiple devices, and it is this way since the hardware dependant part is only in the treble rom.
Right now there are not fully treble roms available for the Axon7. The currently available roms labeled as treble are delivered and work as a usual full rom. The treble and system parts are still mixed up in those roms. It will take some time until we could enjoy a fully wotking treble rom in the Axon7.
It may be obvious to others,but... What (if anything) does the project treble requirement to be able to boot a vanilla Android ROM do to the idea of the OEM locked bootloader?
I know that there are devs working on bringing project Treble to older/non-treble devices, but going forward, will devices shipping with Oreo, P and others in future be able to have OEM locked bootloaders and still meet the requirement of booting a vanilla android image?
I'm interested as I've not felt the need for a custom ROM since KitKat.
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It may be obvious to others,but... What (if anything) does the project treble requirement to be able to boot a vanilla Android ROM do to the idea of the OEM locked bootloader?
I know that there are devs working on bringing project Treble to older/non-treble devices, but going forward, will devices shipping with Oreo, P and others in future be able to have OEM locked bootloaders and still meet the requirement of booting a vanilla android image?
I'm interested as I've not felt the need for a custom ROM since KitKat.
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Yes as long as you can unlock the bootloader you can flash other system images to it or do whatever you want with the device.
But with a locked bootloader you cant alter the necessary system partition despite the device is treble partitioned.
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Yes as long as you can unlock the bootloader you can flash other system images to it or do whatever you want with the device.
But with a locked bootloader you cant alter the necessary system partition despite the device is treble partitioned.
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After loading a GSI Treble ROM can the bootloader be relocked?
Hi
I'm new to Huawei Devices and have a few questions about the P Smart because I want to get it soon.
Is it fully treble supported?
How to unlock its Bootloader?
If it's fully Treble supported can I install every treble ROM that supports that CPU family?
How is EMIUI?
What Custom ROMs do you guys/girls recommend (In this forum and treble forums)
What settings should I change EMEDIANTLY after getting my Device/EMIUI
Any Xposed/Magisk Modules recommended for this Phone.
SuperSU or Magisk for EMIUI Stock?
Thanks in advance
~DeblaGaming
DeblaGaming said:
Hi
I'm new to Huawei Devices and have a few questions about the P Smart because I want to get it soon.
Is it fully treble supported?
How to unlock its Bootloader?
If it's fully Treble supported can I install every treble ROM that supports that CPU family?
How is EMIUI?
What Custom ROMs do you guys/girls recommend (In this forum and treble forums)
What settings should I change EMEDIANTLY after getting my Device/EMIUI
Any Xposed/Magisk Modules recommended for this Phone.
SuperSU or Magisk for EMIUI Stock?
Thanks in advance
~DeblaGaming
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Hi lots of response from your questions I see! Lol. Are you still on psmart? Where have you got to with it?
My experience: MOS =ministry of solutions unlocked my bootloader, I paid 9£ for them to downgrade firmware and give me unlock bl code, I've been around for sometime but I struggle with fastboot, dev terminology and new devices esp Huawei!
I got twrp+magisk mostly for viper4. Although I'd like to use quick step and xposed although I'm reading people have probs with xposed and it's not compatible I might be reading old threads but I ain't willing to risk a brick. From what I see thus far there isn't much in the way of development and it seems like those using custom ROMs are desperate to get back to stock because it's so stable.
Be good to hear what progress you have made
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Hi lots of response from your questions I see! Lol. Are you still on psmart? Where have you got to with it?
My experience: MOS =ministry of solutions unlocked my bootloader, I paid 9£ for them to downgrade firmware and give me unlock bl code, I've been around for sometime but I struggle with fastboot, dev terminology and new devices esp Huawei!
I got twrp+magisk mostly for viper4. Although I'd like to use quick step and xposed although I'm reading people have probs with xposed and it's not compatible I might be reading old threads but I ain't willing to risk a brick. From what I see thus far there isn't much in the way of development and it seems like those using custom ROMs are desperate to get back to stock because it's so stable.
Be good to hear what progress you have made
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well for the both of you xposed beta 4 test 1 that can be downloaded direcly installed from xposed gitbub works but not all the modules will work and some modules will bootloop and brick you
there are 0 P smart devs... there are devs like askuccio and hacky86 making treble GSI for our specific kirin soc hi6250 but not for P smart
the most stable custom roms are omnirom and RR and lineage 15 maintained by
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/roms-openkirin-aosp-collection-t3828806
project openkirin... they are stable.. but the camera doesnt have AR althought it is stock camera.. wifi bridge and app twin won't work and other small bugs like i cant use the camerra to scan barcodes to make payments in my banking app.. the rest of the p smart threads are dead.. global search in xda for openkirin, kirin659 , hurupdater, hi6250.. cos our only custom roms are treble GSI's
so after long searching it finally clear to me that
- treble partition and recovery are available
- Can flash GSI/Treble rom but with quirks, e.g. bluetooth, hotspot not working
- Missing shims? Updated vendor partition?
so we need a great dev to work on it??
if great dev starts the project and start a pool for collecting $$$ as support i'll gladly donate $10us I'm sure more people will join too....
especially now that MIUI has finally released the final version https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-3-final-miui-10-stable-update/
optionalmgrr.la said:
if great dev starts the project and start a pool for collecting $$$ as support i'll gladly donate $10us I'm sure more people will join too....
especially now that MIUI has finally released the final version https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-3-final-miui-10-stable-update/
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Who gonna rewrite vendor code? Its not devs work. It comes from vendor and silicon manufacturer. They knows their hardware. So they work closely with google to write vendor blobs.
Why u want treble rom? Flashing gsi doesnt give u more performance and stabilty. They are more buggy than non treble rom. Non treble rom are device specific so have less bugs.
Kenzo will get android 10 and thats enough. After that 5g phones will hit the market and all will rush for it. So dont assume kenzo will survive till 2050 if we make it treble :laugh:
5G is going to be a flop like 3D TV.
If there is official LineageOS 16.0 then it's ok, but all other ROMs are too flicky they don't even support SELinux.
All those 1000s of different ROMs are basically the same base just add on top different customizations. That's why all 9.0 ROM are SELinux permissive.
In short, too many fancy half-working stuffs without any substance. We need a substantiated deve to help us out of this mess......
optionalmgrr.la said:
5G is going to be a flop like 3D TV.
If there is official LineageOS 16.0 then it's ok, but all other ROMs are too flicky they don't even support SELinux.
All those 1000s of different ROMs are basically the same base just add on top different customizations. That's why all 9.0 ROM are SELinux permissive.
In short, too many fancy half-working stuffs without any substance. We need a substantiated deve to help us out of this mess......
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Do u even know how selinux works.
What do u mean they dont even support selinux.? Every rom has selinux support since kitkat.
Why dont u write ur perfect selinux policy and help to this devs so that it can be enforced on pie.
And whats there in lineage official rom which other roms dont have. Lineage official has its rules which cant be met for older phones which has old vendor blobs. Difficult to get official status.
And Who really give damn about lineage official.
Other roms are more customizable and have far more better and miles ahead in features then los rom.
And what u mean by mess? Xiaomi gave mm blobs coz official miui on android 6. Then from where we will get latest code if qualcomm is not updating code for sd650.
Only stuff is broken on pie is Vilte. If u have selinux priority then use Citrus.
ok thx
Forget about project trouble for our kenzo