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Any risk in using a different charger than the original samsung one to charge the sgs2?
I use a combination of blackberry charger at work, universal micro usb charger downstairs at home, universal car charger and official charger upstairs.
Any concerns with this?

I've been doing that for ages. I use the droid, SE x10 and iPhone chargers with no issue.
As always YMMV

I am using htc's charger which has a higher rating than samsung charger. No problem at all...
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I use a Sony charger to charge my S2 , I have not even removed the Samsung one from the box , As long as you use a branded charger will be fine.

I've tried to use Nokia's 1200 mA charger, It did charge the phone but whenever i connected that charger the phone would slow down terribly. So, whatever you use, try to keep it around Samsung's charger's 700 mA.

Ive found that the standard charger is rubbish! I had my galaxy s 4 month and it broke, my wifes galaxy 3 did same and now i dont even bother with the one out the box, just use the usb cable and the adapter i got with my tab.
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Ive found that the standard charger is rubbish! I had my galaxy s 4 month and it broke, my wifes galaxy 3 did same and now i dont even bother with the one out the box, just use the usb cable and the adapter i got with my tab.
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Absolutely right...my phone is about 1 month old..and the official samsung charger is already broken..not charging anymore..i guess there is an internal wire breakage at the flexible point of the charger becoz when i shake the wire at that point it starts charging intermittently..
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I use my Kindle charger any micro usb charger will be fine.
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iznee said:
Absolutely right...my phone is about 1 month old..and the official samsung charger is already broken..not charging anymore..i guess there is an internal wire breakage at the flexible point of the charger becoz when i shake the wire at that point it starts charging intermittently..
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Same here. I tried all sorts to get it to work with no joy. I now have 3 duff samsung chargers that are potentially a fire hazard if left plugged in! Tempted to email samsung and raise this concern.
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At home I use a Lenmar AC-to-USB 1A charger I picked up at Fry's for around $10; in the car I use a 1A Cygnett 12V-to-USB charger, also from Fry's. Both charge the device at least as well as the OEM AC charger; the car charger appears to charge the SGS2 even when I'm running CoPilot Live.

I use the iGO charge anywhere.
It's a tad pricey, but since the GS2 battery life isn't great (my only complaint on the phone), the charger is great for it since it has an internal battery that charges up when you put it in an outlet so you can charge the phone without needing an outlet. Great for in school or walking around, just put it in my bag and press the button and it charges.

I'm using my BlackBerry charger with no issues, I just do it for convenience as the charging time is the same as the standard charger.

Cheers for the replies, you have put my worried little mind at ease!

daz_2000 said:
Cheers for the replies, you have put my worried little mind at ease!
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+1 .Just used the charger from a different brand and no bad feelings while using it

well, i just emailed samsung raising my concerns regarding the faulty chargers... see what they come back with....

Guys have you noticed any change in response when we plug in another charger?
I have been using the HTC charger, 200 mA (input), Output 5V --> 1A.
Whenever i connect my phone to charge and try to work on it, i see my screen lag terribly. Haven't tried it with the supplied charger though due to the low voltage that came with it.
I know i would be wrong, but wanted to check with the experts on this forum...

maddesire said:
Guys have you noticed any change in response when we plug in another charger?
I have been using the HTC charger, 200 mA (input), Output 5V --> 1A.
Whenever i connect my phone to charge and try to work on it, i see my screen lag terribly. Haven't tried it with the supplied charger though due to the low voltage that came with it.
I know i would be wrong, but wanted to check with the experts on this forum...
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i am using the htc charger that came with the desire hd...no issues what so ever...screen response while charging is the same on or off the charger.

maddesire said:
Guys have you noticed any change in response when we plug in another charger?
I have been using the HTC charger, 200 mA (input), Output 5V --> 1A.
Whenever i connect my phone to charge and try to work on it, i see my screen lag terribly. Haven't tried it with the supplied charger though due to the low voltage that came with it.
I know i would be wrong, but wanted to check with the experts on this forum...
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200ma is way low, less than half the 500 ma usb standard. Get a new charger. Most of the chargers you are going to see will be 500 ma I would go with double that.

Some (bad?) chargers will disable touchscreen
I have a couple of usb-chargers off ebay and they give some trouble.
When connected, the touchscreen will not work anymore.
This is mentioned in the manual btw.
Guess the SII is a little sensitive.

Yeah, ebay chargers are a crapshoot. Head to walmart or similar and read the power specs, get something that puts out 5v at 1A LPS. This will charge much faster than the often usb based standard 500 mA chargers and the battery will not be harmed at that charging level which is what many stock HTC chargers put out nowdays. Do not get anything less than 500mA, this is the usb standard and works but will be slower to charge. El Cheapo no name chargers on ebay and such may have the spec but may or may not actually put out the juice. You can usually tell this because the phone will have problems like the ones mentioned right here. The stock charger does not put out any special juice, juice is juice. If a charger puts out to spec the phone will work while charging.

defy wall charger

guys my charger isn't working. there is a problem with the USB cable. can anyone help where to buy a wall charger in Hyderabad, India. (I have tried non Motorola chargers but it makes defy (cm7) sluggish and unresponsive .. please help.

try in online ebay

rashsalmn said:
guys my charger isn't working. there is a problem with the USB cable. can anyone help where to buy a wall charger in Hyderabad, India. (I have tried non Motorola chargers but it makes defy (cm7) sluggish and unresponsive .. please help.
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So... just replace the cable?

The cable and charger are common.. i can use the one of n97 without problem with mt defy
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Gabri.91 said:
The cable and charger are common.. i can use the one of n97 without problem with mt defy
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Hmm thought the usb cable unplugged from the wall charger so it could be used on a computer. At any rate I have noticed that my Kindle charger works great on my Defy.

I used the charger of an HP Touchpad with 2000 mAh instead of the 800mAh of the Defy charger and would say it charges much faster. Unfortunatelly i "had to" sell the HP Touchpad with its charger and i am looking for another good USB-Charger. In the past i bought one from ebay for not much more than 1€ but it only has 500mAh i am thinking about this one "from HTC" with 1mAh
ebay.com/itm/170738630232[/url]
This one is listed with 2100mAh: ebay.com/itm/170767447174

I believe that you think on output current. That is mA, not mAh. And ofc that it chargers faster, just like you eat faster with bigger spoon

hello cickvoa,
you are right, it is mA, because milliampere per hour (mAh) is for battery's capacity and not for output currents. i hope everyone knows what i mean.
on the other hand i guess that the charging unit is also a factor the charging speed depends on. is it possible that a too high output current could damage the phone?
is anyone able to suggest a good charger with a current >= 1000 mA?
regards ladiko

It is not possible do damage charging unit, cause it will take current that needs. For example: USB on PCs is 5V/500mA (500mA is MAX current that source (USB) gives), and when you plug mouse it takes only 100mA. So, charger with 2A output is MAX, and defy takes less current

The MXP charge the Battery very low without QC2.0 Loader?

Is it possible that the MXP charge very low (1Amp.) without a QC2.0 Loader?
I have test a Samsung 2A Loader and a Amazon 2,1A Laoder with original Motorola Cable but is charge around 3h till its full charged?! That is very 2010 like :/ I dont have a QC2.0 Charger in my Car, by my Friends, at work.......
Min 1,5A, that would be good.
Here is a Video that show it>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcCtSFBKQM

Facing the same issue here... More and more thinking to buy another Quick Charge plug

If I understand your question correctly, then yes you need a quick charge 2.0 charger to get a fast charge into the Play. Any other type of charger (regardless of rate) will just be a regular charger with the X Play.

Regular Charger ok.....but its charge only with 1A and this is very slow. A LG G2, Samsung Note 2 or a Huawei P8 charge with a regular Charger with 1,5A or 2A but not with 1A how the MXP. That is like a 2010 Phone :/ So, when I at work I have no QC2.0 Loader, or by friends.... an then the MXP charge from 10-100% in very long 3 Hours!!!!! Its really bad and hope Motorola fix this. (Huawei (P8) fix it by the first Update from 1A to 1,5A) Ps I have the European Version of the MXP!

Or .. Just buy a $20 quick charger ...

Read my Text!!!!!!!!!!!! Then I have to buy more than one! Easyier ist to use the Standard Charger by my Friends ..... and Motorola fix this and make that the MXP charge with minimum 1.5A. (better 2A)
But if you sit on Couch 24hours a Day, thats a good Idea !!! :laugh:

edlover666 said:
Read my Text!!!!!!!!!!!! Then I have to buy more than one! Easyier ist to use the Standard Charger by my Friends ..... and Motorola fix this and make that the MXP charge with minimum 1.5A. (better 2A)
But if you sit on Couch 24hours a Day, thats a good Idea !!! [emoji23]
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Or .. Just buy two. Honestly, once you get a quick charger, you aren't going to be happy with generic 1.5a charging. I read your text perfectly fine. I bought two chargers. One for home, one to go. $40 for quality chargers isn't bad. It's not like it's one time use.

Observations on charger port burn out problems

I have read from various sources about the Leeco 727 dying a premature death due to burn out of the charger port. Some theories attribute it to bad Leeco supplied charging adapter or cable or faulty motherboard.
I tried a bunch of different wall adapters and cables to see if I could make some sense of it. What I noticed is that only with the Leeco supplied unit and an Anker dual port unit do I get any semblance of fast charging. There is no indicator on screen. I can only go by time observation.
Charging with other fast charge adapters seem to charge at a slower pace at 5 volt. From what I can see using a USB port tester is that when something charges at fast charge, it charges at 9 volt. I used a Samsung adapter and one from an orbic wonder which are definitely fast charge capable. They charge my old Motorola G4 at "turbo power" and a Note 4 at "fast charge".
I bought a unit from Allmaybe that has visual lcd of power consumption and it clocked down to a lower voltage after tripping the overpower indicator.
Maybe we need to throw away the Leeco wall adapter. It's possible that either it or the phone is drawing too much electricity for the port to handle.

tekweezle said:
I have read from various sources about the Leeco 727 dying a premature death due to burn out of the charger port. Some theories attribute it to bad Leeco supplied charging adapter or cable or faulty motherboard.
I tried a bunch of different wall adapters and cables to see if I could make some sense of it. What I noticed is that only with the Leeco supplied unit and an Anker dual port unit do I get any semblance of fast charging. There is no indicator on screen. I can only go by time observation.
Charging with other fast charge adapters seem to charge at a slower pace at 5 volt. From what I can see using a USB port tester is that when something charges at fast charge, it charges at 9 volt. I used a Samsung adapter and one from an orbic wonder which are definitely fast charge capable. They charge my old Motorola G4 at "turbo power" and a Note 4 at "fast charge".
I bought a unit from Allmaybe that has visual lcd of power consumption and it clocked down to a lower voltage after tripping the overpower indicator.
Maybe we need to throw away the Leeco wall adapter. It's possible that either it or the phone is drawing too much electricity for the port to handle.
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Their threads on this.
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A device like yhis Xdragon USB voltmeter might be helpful in debugging issues with charging.
Right now I am connected to a Samsung adaptive fast charger that can pull 9 volts but currently just pulling in 4.78 volts and about 700 mAh. At that rate will take about 5 to 6 hours to fully charge the 4200 mAh battery in the Leeco

tekweezle said:
I have read from various sources about the Leeco 727 dying a premature death due to burn out of the charger port. Some theories attribute it to bad Leeco supplied charging adapter or cable or faulty motherboard.
I tried a bunch of different wall adapters and cables to see if I could make some sense of it. What I noticed is that only with the Leeco supplied unit and an Anker dual port unit do I get any semblance of fast charging. There is no indicator on screen. I can only go by time observation.
Charging with other fast charge adapters seem to charge at a slower pace at 5 volt. From what I can see using a USB port tester is that when something charges at fast charge, it charges at 9 volt. I used a Samsung adapter and one from an orbic wonder which are definitely fast charge capable. They charge my old Motorola G4 at "turbo power" and a Note 4 at "fast charge".
I bought a unit from Allmaybe that has visual lcd of power consumption and it clocked down to a lower voltage after tripping the overpower indicator.
Maybe we need to throw away the Leeco wall adapter. It's possible that either it or the phone is drawing too much electricity for the port to handle.
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The charger is fine, it was built according to qualcomm specs: https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
The Issue is that alot of phones were sent out with bad cables.

I don't think that it's just the cable.
I have been seeing hard shut downs while charging at night. It's not consistent so I am just going slow I suspect that the phone is shutting off to prevent overcharging the battery.
I have 2 x727 with asop extended 8.1 and blackscreen kernel 4.9 installed
I replaced the original LeEco USB C cable with a genuine Samsung USB C cable per the recommendation of other threads. "no change still shut down while charging overnight"
I suspect that it is a kernel battery issue so I backed up in twrp and I installed the regular version 4.9 of the blackscreen kernel. "no change the phone is still shutdown occasionally while charging overnight on a original leeco charger with a Samsung USB C cable"
So now I am trying both a Samsung charger and Samsung cable. I should revert back to the twrp kernel backup but blackscreen kernel is just too awesome!
The Samsung charger only outputs at 5.3V @ 2.0A
The LeEco charger outputs at 3.6v to 8v @ 3.0A or 12v @ 2.0A
I'm pretty sure that the problem is a software issue with the quick charge 3.0 voltage controls in the rom itself but I haven't gotten a log of the shutdown yet to confirm that because I haven't rooted the phone. The phone was getting uncomfortably warm when charging.
I'm betting that with the Samsung Oem quick charge 2.0 charger the phone will work properly without shutting down overnight.
I'll update this post with my results.

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I have been seeing hard shut downs while charging at night. It's not consistent so I am just going slow I suspect that the phone is shutting off to prevent overcharging the battery.
I have 2 x727 with asop extended 8.1 and blackscreen kernel 4.9 installed
I replaced the original LeEco USB C cable with a genuine Samsung USB C cable per the recommendation of other threads. "no change still shut down while charging overnight"
I suspect that it is a kernel battery issue so I backed up in twrp and I installed the regular version 4.9 of the blackscreen kernel. "no change the phone is still shutdown occasionally while charging overnight on a original leeco charger with a Samsung USB C cable"
So now I am trying both a Samsung charger and Samsung cable. I should revert back to the twrp kernel backup but blackscreen kernel is just too awesome!
The Samsung charger only outputs at 5.3V @ 2.0A
The LeEco charger outputs at 3.6v to 8v @ 3.0A or 12v @ 2.0A
I'm pretty sure that the problem is a software issue with the quick charge 3.0 voltage controls in the rom itself but I haven't gotten a log of the shutdown yet to confirm that because I haven't rooted the phone. The phone was getting uncomfortably warm when charging.
I'm betting that with the Samsung Oem quick charge 2.0 charger the phone will work properly without shutting down overnight.
I'll update this post with my results.
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Have you tried simply reflashing the correct firmware?
I too have a X727 and had similar issues in the past while using a firmware designed for the X720, and alot of of Rom's come with the X720 firmware.
Try flashing the kernel from my Google Drive link below and see if that helps.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qAJrM8bIfI190W9w2gKR97xVhA-2lrZt

Meh 2 phones same software with different results.
I still don't really know why it was shutting off while charging overnight.
But the problem hasn't repeated itself since I stopped using one of the LeEco chargers. So at the moment I am blaming it on a bad charger base or wonky phone charging circuit, not the cable.
I was thinking my problem was software but I had already changed my roms Kernel to the appropriate blackscreen kernel from the roms stock kernel and the problem persisted on her phone until I stopped using the one included LeEco charger on my wife's phone, it's charging fine on the Samsung 2.0 quick charger, and mines charging without issues on the second LeEco 3.0 quick charger.
Unfortunately I can't just wipe her phone without causing her problems because she is always on her phone.
Is the problem hardware related in her phone is my current question? Or am I tracking a bug in the software.
If the problem is that charger base it should have zero effect if I put her phone on the 3.0 charger that I am using. If it is her phones charging hardware that test could permanently brick the phone Fry the charge port or battery ect...
So I am going to order another x727 if I can find another new one on ebay apparently most of the new US inventory is gone and the price is being gouged on the last of the new ones. :crying:
That way I will have a backup so I can do that test and have a phone to use for development. That's why I bought this phone in the first place.
I'm pretty sure that the one charger base is the whole problem but I can't afford to test that theory yet.

dlradlt said:
I still don't really know why it was shutting off while charging overnight.
But the problem hasn't repeated itself since I stopped using one of the LeEco chargers. So at the moment I am blaming it on a bad charger base or wonky phone charging circuit, not the cable.
I was thinking my problem was software but I had already changed my roms Kernel to the appropriate blackscreen kernel from the roms stock kernel and the problem persisted on her phone until I stopped using the one included LeEco charger on my wife's phone, it's charging fine on the Samsung 2.0 quick charger, and mines charging without issues on the second LeEco 3.0 quick charger.
Unfortunately I can't just wipe her phone without causing her problems because she is always on her phone.
Is the problem hardware related in her phone is my current question? Or am I tracking a bug in the software.
If the problem is that charger base it should have zero effect if I put her phone on the 3.0 charger that I am using. If it is her phones charging hardware that test could permanently brick the phone Fry the charge port or battery ect...
So I am going to order another x727 if I can find another new one on ebay apparently most of the new US inventory is gone and the price is being gouged on the last of the new ones. :crying:
That way I will have a backup so I can do that test and have a phone to use for development. That's why I bought this phone in the first place.
I'm pretty sure that the one charger base is the whole problem but I can't afford to test that theory yet.
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You can buy usb voltage testers on Amazon.
If you happen to have a bad charging block just toss it, and buy a universally compatible Qualcomm Quick Charger. Such as this one: https://www.amazon.com/Charge-Anker-Charger-Compatible-PowerPort/dp/B016LO811S

Blitzwolf quickcharger and C cables. Bought 3 of each. All my charging issues disappeared when I bought them. Leeco supplied cable/charger are crap, why risk it?

FYI, I have experienced the condition where my charging stops randomly when using 2 different decent Samsung Travel model fast chargers. Stopped around 49% to 85%
Neither pulled in fast charging voltage-drawing a little under 5 volts and maybe 1100mah, as compared to 9 volts when connected to the Leeco charger.

Good point. Charger blocks are cheap phones aren't.

As addendum to this issue, after a year and half my charger port finally burned out. Probably abused the phone a bit and got some moisture in the port, maybe it was just a matter of time.
I was able to resurrect the phone though. The actual replacement board is available on eBay for $5-10 with tools. Hardest part was using a heat gun to remove the screen. There are guide on how to open up this unit.
One thing I will tell you I am that you don't need to remove the battery to get to the USB board.

Just another note, either hitting my phone with the heat gun or mucking around with the battery unnecessarily caused the battery to start to malfunction. Battery would discharge quickly and phone would shut off randomly. I replaced the battery with some cheap replacement from China, cost about $16.
Also replaced the screen because I tore the ribbon cable by accident. The screen cost about $13. Definitely cheaper than an iPhone replacement!

Why on earth was fast charging disabled for this nexus?

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They didn't disable anything - it doesn't have the Qualicom Quick Charge variant, but it does have it's own variant of a rapid charge.
Using two wall chargers I have here and a Benson certified USB-C Cable, one of the wall chargers support QC2.0 and the other QC3.0. Both charged "normally" reporting on the screen as "Charging".
Using the stock USB-C wall charger that came with my 6P, using EX Kernel and the stock kernel from January 8.1 stock ROM, both reported "Charging Rapidly". I switched kernels using EXKM and a backup of the stock Kernel to test this.
Also, I bought a Tronsmart USB-C Car Charger, and it too reports "Charging Rapidly".

ZuneYT said:
Hey everyone,
So I got my nexus 3 Months ago, I just found out NOW that it is not fast charging at all. I bought a new ANKER charger and wire with it and its just charging slowly which got me really annoyed as I wasted money on it because I thought it had nothing to do with the phone at all. I did some digging around and the maker of franco kernel found out that bloody google disabled the bloody fast charging on the 6P?! What kind of solution is that? I mean they could of at least gave us options on whether to disable or enable it in the phone. Is there ANY way to get fast charging enabled on this phone?
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Nexus 6p just charges at a higher amperage then most average phones. As long as you use a charger with 5V/3A you should get charging rapidly. Just remember as the battery percentage increases the amps get lower. Use an app like ampere to make sure your getting close to 3000mA. I think the highest charge I seen on the stock plug was like 2800mA.

Well I bought an ANKER Charger and usb cable with it which definitely says it is fast charging compatible. When it comes to charging my phone I got a small text on my lock screen showing me how much charge there is going to the phone while charging. The average charging mAh is 1,400 and the voltage is 4.3V. I am pretty sure that it has reached a higher charge rate....I'll have to keep an eye on it. Do you think thats an acceptable charging rate?

It's not just about amperage, because some of their chargers are a whopping 8A - https://www.anker.com/ca/products/108/203/Wall-Chargers
Anker doesn't support the variant of rapid charging that the 6P accepts, therefore it only will negotiate down to a normal "charging" rate, which IIRC is exactly what you're getting.

ZuneYT said:
Well I bought an ANKER Charger and usb cable with it which definitely says it is fast charging compatible. When it comes to charging my phone I got a small text on my lock screen showing me how much charge there is going to the phone while charging. The average charging mAh is 1,400 and the voltage is 4.3V. I am pretty sure that it has reached a higher charge rate....I'll have to keep an eye on it. Do you think thats an acceptable charging rate?
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That's kind of low this one from the comments works. Sorry it's Canadian amazon but maybe can find in your are.

Exodusche said:
That's kind of low this one from the comments works. Sorry it's Canadian amazon but maybe can find in your are.
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Well good news I found the plug from my past orders I just forgotten to look on my account haha.
This is it here https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017VXARME/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

ZuneYT said:
Well good news I found the plug from my past orders I just forgotten to look on my account haha.
This is it here https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017VXARME/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Noice yeah Amazon is good that way!! ?

I'm having this problem too. I used to be able to rapid charge using anker usb c to usb c but now it just seems to charge normally not rapid charge.
Anyone know of a fix, let me know.
Thanks