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battery drain with car usb and gps

Hi
Using today the phone @ 100% brightness with car charger connected and using Sygic / Copilot, I see that my device can't not even charge at the same time that I am using it, but maintain their % of battery. Even with the charger the phone drains battery.
WTF samsung, So i cant make a long travel without running out of battery?
Anyone more with this problem?
PS: My HD2, HD, TyTN2, etc doesn't have this problem with the same car charger, they even charge at the same time.

What's the rating on your charger? I had to swap mine out for a 1A one in order to cope with GPS use in the car. Haven't had a problem since then.
I suspect the one you're using is 750mA or even potentially 500.

I have just had the same problem. I knew i needed a higher amp charger but i thought i would give it a try. The one i used is 650mA, so that's definitely not large enough. The normal 'house' charger is 0.7A (700mA) so in theory that size or above should charge whilst the S2 is being used.

I have a 1200 mA usb adapter for car (a sony ericsson, very very slim one) and I have no issues. You need a decent amount of power for that phone so 650mA will not do, have at least 1000.
http://www.nextag.com/Sony-Ericsson-AN400-Compact-853915153/specs-html
Not sure if this is the exact model but I found it to be the best because it's slim and there is nothing sticking out of the car socket, has a lot of power and I can power any usb device with it.

padlad said:
I have just had the same problem. I knew i needed a higher amp charger but i thought i would give it a try. The one i used is 650mA, so that's definitely not large enough. The normal 'house' charger is 0.7A (700mA) so in theory that size or above should charge whilst the S2 is being used.
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Yest but probably you hava a chinese charger. The rating on it is never near the real one.

oh, I see, crappy charger, ill change then thanks guys

TomTom recently released a high speed multi charger. I replaced my old car charger with this one as I had a similar slow charge problem. Never had a problem ever since. All my weapons are always fully loaded with enough power! Expensive though!
http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/product...-cables/high-speed-multi-charger-9UUC.001.04/

If someone is using a cheap higher-powered mains adaptor without issue, could you please post a (UK) link? Also if anyone knows of a cheaper alternative to the £20 car charger that would be great too!

I had same problem.I bought Samsung charger and no problem after
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2.1 Amp TomTom charger is way too much for this device. Samsung wall charger is only rated at 750mA, but someone even found out that in source level Samsung has limited the power current at only 650mA.
With 1 Amp (1000mA) top quality car charger, the phone lost charge while using Navigation on full brightness.
Very slow charging in general for this phone.

shawt said:
I had same problem.I bought Samsung charger and no problem after
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Same here

Mittaa said:
Same here
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Can you provide a link? I'd like to get one

I bought mine on eBay for £6.Just search "genuine samsung car charger"
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I bought today a Belking car charger of 2.1amps and suprise!, same problem battery drain.
Can be maybe the car? I doubt it, any idea?
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=525940

When you have the car charger plugged into the phone go into Settings/About phone/Status & look at "Battery status"; it should tell you if the phone thinks it's plugged into a USB port (in which case the phone will draw only 450 mA) or an AC charger (from which the phone will draw 650 mA). These limits are built into the Samsung ROM, presumably to keep the phone cool and/or extend the battery's lifespan. They could be overridden (especially the AC charger current limit) in a custom ROM.
Absent a custom ROM, if the Status display says you're connected to a USB port, you could try a different charger, or connecting USB pins 2 & 3 (the two center pins on the USB A connector) together. That's how the phone decides if it's connected to a USB port or AC charger -- the low-resistance (less than 200 ohm) connection between the two USB data pins is the key. The spec calls for 200 ohms resistance between the data pins, but some of the low-end high current chargers I've seen just have a direct short.
If that doesn't work, or if the Status display says you're charging off AC, then try some of the other battery-life tricks documented here in the forums; they should reduce the device's draw from the battery, allowing the charger to do its job.

Wow, this is kind of disappointing i have to say. I have noticed the USB charging is incredibly slow. You can't ever rely on it, i think it would take close to 5 hrs to fully charge from USB, that's insane! By mains it's somewhere between 2 and 3, but that's still way too high.
I take it if you buy a higher-powered mains adaptor (not one for the car) then we'd definitely get the benefits of a faster charge? Can someone post a link to one they are using and know works faster that the stock one?
Cheers

I ll try ur tricks guyz.
for the time being this is my situation (and it sux):
-car charger 1A 5v
-slow chargin and hot device
-using navigator equals : phone burns, drains battery and in the worst scenario freezes
yesterday I received a call while phone plugged into car charger with navigator session. wot happened is phone freezed (screen didnt switch off) and I saw PROXIMITY SENSOR WAS RED!

shawt said:
I had same problem.I bought Samsung charger and no problem after
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The first post got me worried for a while, but this info has put me back to ease. Pre-ordered the GS2 (India) and getting the original Samsung charger along as a freebie.

Yeah, i have simelar experience with the samsung s2 in my car.
Its eating the battery even when its plugged in and i think i have a good charger..
I found 1 solution.. I use now copilot, you can set different setting to disable the screen automatically when you drive a straigt forward for some kilometres, only when you need to turn it comes up again.
thats how i set it and it loads a little, but bad anyway.
Maybe thats what the + means in Super Amoled + (+batteryusage)

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Maybe thats what the + means in Super Amoled + (+batteryusage)
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nexus S didnt have such a problems. it's only around how samsung managed chipset.
I ll try to set cpu downclock while temperature goes over 40..

Car chargers..

i know this has probably been asked 28934832 times, and i just spent an hour reading through the phandroid inc forums about these, but here's my question...
so i had an eris before this with the stock HTC mini usb car charger. it would charge as AC, not USB. so when i got the INC, i bought a little adapter from radio shack. on my INC, it would charge as USB...which i guess the adapter messed with the current somehow, which sucks bc it took forever to charge.
then i found my OLD aftermarket ebay cheapo 2 dollar retractable micro USB car charger that i used with my LG Env Touch. i plugged it in, and wa-la! it was AC! i was like, holy damn, that's awesome. thing is, it seems to still charge slow as hell for AC, almost as slow as USB, maybe a little quicker, but slower than charging from my wall.
so my question is, can you still show AC and not charge as fast as the wall outlet would?

Ive been told that cars electric systems can send spikes of current through the charger that could fry the battery. I had a LG Ally that i would charge in the car but it was more like a trickle charge where the wall would charge it fast. When i bought my Dinc, i didnt buy a car charger. Not sure if the response helps any.
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so i did some testing and came up with this:
on the wall charging in the house, going up a percent took about 53 seconds
in my truck using the charger that shows A/C, it took about 1min33sec
in my truck using an HTC car charger with a mini-to-micro usb adapter (which shows as USB in the menu), it took 3 minutes 22 seconds just to go up 1 percent
so no matter what, it's slower than inside...hmm

Thats true,and if could guess, i would guess its the difference between 12 volts vs. 120 volts.
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Actually, I think the count is 28934841...
Do the chargers you use in your vehicles indicate their output? A higher value means, on average, quicker recharging. I've seen chargers as low as 250 mA, many at 500 mA (half an amp), a few at 700 mA, quite a few at 1A, and a rare one that puts out 2A (meant for iPads).
Personally, I need one that puts out at least 1A because then I can charge my phone up while I'm using navigation. Anything less and my phone slowly discharges completely (and gets REALLY hot in the meantime).
This is the one I use:
https://store.griffintechnology.com/powerjolt-dual-universal-micro

damn, 20 bucks for a charger....ugh.
the charger i use doesn't indicate ANYWHERE on it what it is, which sucks. my stock HTC one says it's the 1a, but that stupid usb adapter must cut that in half and make it charg slow, which sucks. i need to find a 1a guy somewhere
hmm...i use a car lighter adapter thing that i plug in that has 3 slots for stuff..so like i can use my GPS adapter, a charger, and something else at the same time. it's like an adapter extender. it also has a USB port in it..i wonder if that USB port will put out 1a like the one you showed above..? i didn't even think to try that

I got mine from Wal-Mart for $12.88 plus tax.
There are other 1A chargers out there. Just try a few and return the ones that don't work well enough. But first, check into the one you have...
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I usually power off my phone completely and charge it if I'm on the go... Ridiculously fast charging that way

Galaxy Note without original charger

Hello to everyone!
I have one simple question: do I risk something if I charge the Note with another charger than the original one?

I don-t know, but I think no.
I charged many time my note with htc charger and gs2 charger.
Ciao

peslap said:
Hello to everyone!
I have one simple question: do I risk something if I charge the Note with another charger than the original one?
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I almosr never use the original charger. I use the charger that came with the bluetooth headset and everything is fine

It doesn't matter what kind of charger you have. The only thing you must look at is the voltage of the source (5V DC) and it must be a micro usb plug

peslap said:
Hello to everyone!
I have one simple question: do I risk something if I charge the Note with another charger than the original one?
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im using my old htc hd2 charger as the samsung one seems to have packed up and isnt charging properly

The easiest way to charge your Note is of course via a USB>Micro USB cord plugged into a laptop or PC (where you are guaranteed the voltage is correct), however if you are using a generic or knock off wall wart charger than provides a micro USB connector there is some small chance that it will not charge your Note.. look for the charging icon and if its not charging, toss the charger and get another.
There is no specific risk to the device, provided that it (the charger) has a micro-usb intended for charging generic devices..its just that some modern portable devices have a stricter requirement (tighter tolerance) for charging voltage and simply will not charge outside that voltage range.. my BB9930 does exactly this..
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Hello to everyone!
I have one simple question: do I risk something if I charge the Note with another charger than the original one?
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Richy99 said:
im using my old htc hd2 charger as the samsung one seems to have packed up and isnt charging properly
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I'm using an hd2 charger without problems
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Since all micro/mini usb chargers have the same voltage, and vary only in the power output - the only problem you could face is slow charging, or no charging at all if the charger doesn't have enough juice. But it certainly won't harm the phone.

I'm using my old Nokia N900 charger without problems

I'm using an old HTC mains-to-USB and a Nokia microUSB cable...

My stock charger has a slight squeal, so I usually use the charger for my BB Curve 9300. Does totally fine.

My Note was purchased from expansys UK but shipped in from mainland Europe. As it was to be sold in the UK, expansys had to supply a UK adapter rather than an EU one ...I received an HTC adapter with my phone. At first, I was worried, but discovered that it works beautifully with my Note. Charges faster than generic Samsung chargers too! You should be fine using another standard charger
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For the first 3 weeks I was using a blackberry (original) Bold II charger.
I noticed charge time was too long. And maybe even battery life was shorter.
Im not 100% sure about the second statement but the first is confirmed.
When I started using the Note charger it was faster. Not super fast compared to iPhone or iPad but faster than using the Bold charger.

I never use my samy charger..Im using my DHD charger..no problem at all..
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Tested three microusb from my "old" htc hd2, two original nokia microusb, and a sony ericsson original microusb.
HTC and Nokia dont work. Can't charge and no data connection.... I only can charge and data connect with the samsung and the sony ericsson microusb cables. I cant understand!!!
(the nokia cable also cant work with hd2!!)
microusb is an standard???
HTC minijack stereo earphone dont work with samsung, also dont work the nokia earphone...
minijack stereo is an standard???
Regards.

peslap said:
Hello to everyone!
I have one simple question: do I risk something if I charge the Note with another charger than the original one?
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Most modern USB chargers should be fine (I use my old iPhone charger for the Note, for example.) Watch the power output though - some tablet chargers are rated at 2A+ and that could overdrive your charging circuit and cause damage. If you make sure your charger is about 1A (and 5V, obviously) then you should be fine.

peslap said:
Hello to everyone!
I have one simple question: do I risk something if I charge the Note with another charger than the original one?
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I use a nokia charger to charge mine!
Make sure it gives you 1A of output and you are fine!
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Most modern USB chargers should be fine (I use my old iPhone charger for the Note, for example.) Watch the power output though - some tablet chargers are rated at 2A+ and that could overdrive your charging circuit and cause damage. If you make sure your charger is about 1A (and 5V, obviously) then you should be fine.
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Well emuX said it all!
1A of output and 5V and you are fine!

Actually the charging current is limited by internal resistance of the battery, so the battery effectively "accepts" charge. Charging current is not "pushed" in by the charger...
obviously a charger from say a BB is likely to be current limited and so longer charging times would be expected, but an iPad charger will work fine.
emuX said:
Most modern USB chargers should be fine (I use my old iPhone charger for the Note, for example.) Watch the power output though - some tablet chargers are rated at 2A+ and that could overdrive your charging circuit and cause damage. If you make sure your charger is about 1A (and 5V, obviously) then you should be fine.
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I am even using a charger meant for my old HTC hehe, powerful enough adapter
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I wouldnt worry too much, I charge my note with my iPhone charger purely because the USB port faces a different way so I can actually fit it on my plug extensions without loseing 2 sockets.
Pretty much anything with an output of 5Vdc and a minimum of 1A will do just fine.

Need help. My Transformer won't charge anymore

Hi,
I hope someone can help me. My Transformer doesn't charge anymore since yesterday.
Tablet was around 10% when i put the charger in, but the message 'Connect your charger'doesn't go away.
Strange thing is that whenever i plug it in and TF is off, it will turn on, so I guess the wall charger and cable are functioning.
Also when connecting it to my PC I can sync.
I've tried already all the solutions i could find online:
- put the wall charger in the freezer --> didn't work
- cold boot --> didn't work
- factory reset --> didn't work
- tried a different wall charger and connected the wire to a portable battery --> didn't work
- flashed the ROM again --> didn't work
The only way now i have for charging my TF is by USB (connected to PC while turned off). It will charge this way but it takes about 3 hours to get 10% charge from this.
Anyone had this happen already before?

So you tried multiple Asus wall chargers? with no luck? A standard USB charger will not work as those have an output voltage of 5+ when the tf requires 12+.
Sounds like you have a bad charger, you can join the club of thousands... It is a very common issue and not always resolved by the freezer or fiddling trick. If you are able to trickle charge via a PC connection then your cable and tf should be good.
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Link for another discussion where I listed an alternate charger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23917818
It really is heads and tails better than the Asus one
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theraffman said:
So you tried multiple Asus wall chargers? with no luck? A standard USB charger will not work as those have an output voltage of 5+ when the tf requires 12+.
Sounds like you have a bad charger, you can join the club of thousands... It is a very common issue and not always resolved by the freezer or fiddling trick. If you are able to trickle charge via a PC connection then your cable and tf should be good.
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No, I tried with a different wall charger (from Motorola). I don't think it's the wall charger though, but to make sure I wil connect it to a phone and check if it's working.
It just feels like the cable and wall charger is working as it should (tablet powers up or screen turns on when I plug it in), but the tablet refuses to charge.
Could it be the pins?
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And the motorola USB charger puts out at least 12 volts and not just 5. Is it the wall charger for the zoom? I was UN aware that the zoom used a USB type charger (similar to the tf).
Once again, you can't use just any USB wall charger for the tf... 99% of chargers put out the standard 5 volts which is enough to trickle charge a tf and to slightly charge it in done cases when powered down. I am only adamant about this this because I have sewn this post a hundred times, and 99 of those times it was the charger... Many people don't realize the tf USB charger is very coherent then what most folks are accustom to, even though it looks and acts similar to others.
The only way to confirm is to find someone who has a tf and borrow their charger, our go to radio shack and buy the charger I listed... Which you should do any ways because it's is way way better, my charging cord over all length is 10ft. Beats the hell out of the 2 or 3 you normally would have.
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theraffman said:
And the motorola USB charger puts out at least 12 volts and not just 5. Is it the wall charger for the zoom? I was UN aware that the zoom used a USB type charger (similar to the tf).
Once again, you can't use just any USB wall charger for the tf... 99% of chargers put out the standard 5 volts which is enough to trickle charge a tf and to slightly charge it in done cases when powered down. I am only adamant about this this because I have sewn this post a hundred times, and 99 of those times it was the charger... Many people don't realize the tf USB charger is very coherent then what most folks are accustom to, even though it looks and acts similar to others.
The only way to confirm is to find someone who has a tf and borrow their charger, our go to radio shack and buy the charger I listed... Which you should do any ways because it's is way way better, my charging cord over all length is 10ft. Beats the hell out of the 2 or 3 you normally would have.
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Thanks for your replies.
You're right, the Motorola wall charger is only 5v output. It was the one I got with the Milestone. I do start to believe it might be the wall charger after all now.
Unfortunately I don't know anyone else with a TF (anyone reading this lives in Ghent, Belgium with aTF?). Radio Shack isn't an option either since I live in Belgium, but I'll try to find overhere or online.
Anyway, appreciate your help. Might try the freezer thing again in the meantime... you never know.
When you connect your TF to a pc on a usb 3.0 port, should you be able to see the TF charging? Or no way to get more the 5v from this too?
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do u know anyone with an ipad? sure the wall chargers are 15w out and should do the trick.

Alta1r said:
When you connect your TF to a pc on a usb 3.0 port, should you be able to see the TF charging? Or no way to get more the 5v from this too?
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USB is 5V. No exceptions.
What you can do is build your own PC charger, like the one in my sig.

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do u know anyone with an ipad? sure the wall chargers are 15w out and should do the trick.
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Cheers man, my colleague has an ipad. Will ask him to bring his wall charger.

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USB is 5V. No exceptions.
What you can do is build your own PC charger, like the one in my sig.
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I might try that, but only if I have no other choice (i fear i'll blow up my TF while doing that).

usb chargers are 5v only and will charge but take all day. The TF charger uses the physical usb plug to do double duty. transfer data via usb and charge device using 15v when the charger block sees a gnd signal on pin 7. Charging is not usb. There are several after market chargers that have variable output voltages and an asst of connectors (usb being one) best one is dynex video charger. Also you should not attempt to flash a ROM with 10% charge as you could get stuck in the middle of a charge and have problems.

Well, it was the wall charger after all. Went out to buy a power adapter with 12v and 1000mA output and the tablet is charging again. Many thanks to all people that replied and tried to help me.
For your info: ipad or galaxy wall charger aren't working with our TF's, they both only have an out put of 5v.
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Alta1r said:
Well, it was the wall charger after all. Went out to buy a power adapter with 12v and 1000mA output and the tablet is charging again. Many thanks to all people that replied and tried to help me.
For your info: ipad or galaxy wall charger aren't working with our TF's, they both only have an out put of 5v.
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Never allow your charge level fall below 30% because it will cause your charger to overheat and eventually stop working.

We can only use the LG charger?

Since the battery life of the phone is quite poor it's only natural that i would like to charge it when i'm on class or with an usb cable when im using my laptop, using other usb chargers/cables, but on the manual says (of course) that we should only use it with the lg charger that comes in the box or an official nexus 4 charger .
It kinda sounds like bullsh*t until i remember what happened with my motorola milestone, sometimes when i used another charger the screen started doing crazy things, like swipping the homescreens by itself , oppening apps, until i charged it for at least a few minutes with the official charger, some months later my digitalizer died, so you can imagine how traumatized i am, but then i think what's the point of trying to make a standard out of microusb chargers if we can only use the official charger? what do you guys think?

I find battery life to be very good.
I have been using an old HTC charger on mine without issue though. I suspect the 'only use LG charger' is to cover themselves in case you kill the device with a cheap and badly made knock off.
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AW: We can only use the LG charger?
I have literally problems in draining my battery, running Franco's Kernel and Minco v6.
Anyway, using another charger should be no problem. I used the charger of my Asus Transformer and a mobile charger in my car without issues.
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templope athletes,"
Feel free to use any USB wallcharger you'll find.
I tried some i had laying around (HTC, iPhone 5, iPad) and they all charged without trouble.. :good:

Yeah, I've used a 1A HTC charger with no issue. I accidentally left my lg charger at a friends house and had to use what I had.

the battery life is good, better than s2 with its extended battery, i was wondering about this too as i want to use a sony rx100 at 2amps to charge while im traveling.
on page 168 of the service manual it states the max charging current is set at 900mah, over voltage protection upto 28volts

The current should be controlled by the phone, not the charger. Therefore there shouldn't be a problem with more powerful chargers. The voltage has to be correct, though

The phone certainly regulates the power it takes.
If you are really worried about the chargers just flip them over and read the output ratings. Most of them are exactly the same these days.
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I use my GNex charger with no problems.
P.s- the battery life on this device is outstanding, you just need to find the kernel that works well on your device
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Any USB charger will work. Note the output current on the charger though, as that will impact how fast it can charge and whether or not you can have the screen on while you charge. The LG charger that comes with the phone is 5v 1.2a, an iPhone charger (at least as of the 4S when I got mine) is 5v 1a and an Amazon Kindle charger is 5v 0.85a. The USB 2.0 spec calls out a max power output of 5v 0.5a.

EnIXmA said:
I use my GNex charger with no problems.
P.s- the battery life on this device is outstanding, you just need to find the kernel that works well on your device
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+1 for the GNex charger.

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Any USB charger will work. Note the output current on the charger though, as that will impact how fast it can charge and whether or not you can have the screen on while you charge. The LG charger that comes with the phone is 5v 1.2a, an iPhone charger (at least as of the 4S when I got mine) is 5v 1a and an Amazon Kindle charger is 5v 0.85a. The USB 2.0 spec calls out a max power output of 5v 0.5a.
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I'm confused , the lg nexus 4 charger is 5.0v 1.2A and my galaxy nexus charger which i use sometimes with my nexus 4 is 5.0V 1.0A , what does this mean? what's the difference?

My Nexus 4 is on the way so i cant comment on that but my Sony Xperia S acts differently to different USB leads even on the same charge unit. It might charge at 500mAh or 950mAh (on a charger rated at 850mAh), the screen might be fine or it might act erratic and it all depends on the lead plugged in to the charger

I used Samsung/blackberry chargers and they worked. Not sure if they were as efficient though.

I pretty much use anything but the LG charger and have been doing so over a month. So feel free to use any quality charger you like.
I also charge of my Philips Qi pad and off computer USB ports.
As long as it's providing stable power or anything close to it, it's good.
Just be careful with (fake) cheapo chargers. Those might cause issues with the touchscreen going haywire while charging off them. I've also read that about some car chargers, but so far my cheap 2A 2port USB car charger that came of DX is working fine for me.
YMMV of course. But there is no need to stick to just the LG charger.