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Bout to get my nexus 4, will be dropped off by UPS tomorow. And i have a few questions, if anyone will be kind enough to answer.
Would it be a smart idea to unlock the bootloader and root it with TWRP recovery like the second i take it out of the box so that way i dont have to back anything up?
And then, when i decide to switch to a non stock ROM i will just need Titanium backup to backup my stuff and then im good to go?
Also, one more question, since nexus's dont have SD cards, wont my titanium backups get wiped when i flash a rom?
Thanks

1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and its performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol

KidCarter93 said:
1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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nyyankees1237 said:
Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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ayo234 said:
Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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scream4cheese said:
After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and it's performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
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thank you all so much! I really appreciate the answers. I will look into all three of those options for backing up my data! Thank you. and the internal sd card thing makes perfect sense so thank you for that explanation. You all have a good day!

[Q] No backup programs working with 4.3. [SOLVED, partially]

I am using SlimRoms 4.3 with Neo kernel, but this issue is pervasive with other 4.3 roms as well.
It doesn't matter if I'm using Helium, Titanium Backup, or Super Backup. USB debugging and root privileges enabled. Internal storage not encrypted. None of the apps can successfully backup the apps data. Helium is able to restore the apps data however.
I don't have this issue with 4.2.2.

eksasol said:
I am using SlimRoms 4.3 with Neo kernel, but this issue is pervasive with other 4.3 roms as well.
It doesn't matter if I'm using Helium, Titanium Backup, or Super Backup. USB debugging and root privileges enabled. Internal storage not encrypted. None of the apps can successfully backup the apps data. Helium is able to restore the apps data however.
I don't have this issue with 4.2.2.
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Have you made sure your SU is working flawlessly or reflashed the latest SuperSu

playya said:
Have you made sure your SU is working flawlessly or reflashed the latest SuperSu
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With Helium every time you reboot the phone you have to re-connect it to your pc and start the Helium pc app and get it to recognize the phone again to get it to start backing up. Just a thought as to why Helium may not be making backups.

kzoodroid said:
With Helium every time you reboot the phone you have to re-connect it to your pc and start the Helium pc app and get it to recognize the phone again to get it to start backing up. Just a thought as to why Helium may not be making backups.
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sorry I have never used Helium but what I am asking is have you made sure your Superuser is functioning properly

playya said:
sorry I have never used Helium but what I am asking is have you made sure your Superuser is functioning properly
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Sorry I hit the wrong reply button and didn't mean to quote your post.

kzoodroid said:
With Helium every time you reboot the phone you have to re-connect it to your pc and start the Helium pc app and get it to recognize the phone again to get it to start backing up. Just a thought as to why Helium may not be making backups.
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You need that only if your phone is not rooted / Helium is not granted root access.

ctbear said:
You need that only if your phone is not rooted / Helium is not granted root access.
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I am rooted, I'm using Koush's superuser and its listed in the allowed section so its granted root access and I still have to connect to the PC every time I reboot the phone or it stops doing my scheduled backups.

kzoodroid said:
I am rooted, I'm using Koush's superuser and its listed in the allowed section so its granted root access and I still have to connect to the PC every time I reboot the phone or it stops doing my scheduled backups.
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That is not normal. I would make sure su is working correctly.
I have never ever needed to use the PC app.

ctbear said:
That is not normal. I would make sure su is working correctly.
I have never ever needed to use the PC app.
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I uninstalled and reinstalled the app then rebooted the phone and I'll see if the scheduled backup runs tonight. The PC app is only used to transfer backups off the phone to the pc so not sure why I had to keep authorizing the phone app through it to get it to work. Also it was only the scheduled backups that wouldn't run, I could always do a manual backup without authorizing the app through the pc.

kzoodroid said:
With Helium every time you reboot the phone you have to re-connect it to your pc and start the Helium pc app and get it to recognize the phone again to get it to start backing up. Just a thought as to why Helium may not be making backups.
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Thanks.I don't use the schedule backup feature, but after running the Carbon's Linux script that did some fixing to the phone internally, now backup is working again.
I don't know what I have to do to get other back up apps like Titanium Backup to work, but Helium is all I use anyway.
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[Q] Help! I deleted twrp backup

I accidently deleted my twrp backup while I was flashing a rom and is there anyway to recover my twrp backup because its very important

No.
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Another answer than no,I think there some ways to restore data on android

xmagiicsx said:
Another answer than no,I think there some ways to restore data on android
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no, youre not restoring it. might as well take it out of your head. if it was a photo, or a small file, id say you had a chance. not a file as large as a nandroid, sorry.

Copy all of my apps from my S3 Mini to the S5?

Hi there, I'm new to the Galaxy S5 forum and don't actually own the device itself yet, but I'm planning on getting it in a few months so here goes my ? :
Since I've got around 300 apps on my current phone, I don't wanna download and update each apps's settings all over again when I get my new S5 and I was wondering if doing a nandroid backup of my S3 Mini containing just the "data" partition and restoring it on the S5 will work and all of my apps will be copied over with all of their settings untouched, BUT I also won't lose any of the preinstalled apps on the S5 itself?
Or maybe I can try this app and make flashable zips of my apps and then flash them on the GS5?
This has always been the main trouble I have had when switching phones before, though I never switched from Android to Android. Hope someone can shed some light on my question and make me buy the S5 sooner Good night all!!
P.S. I DON'T CARE ABOUT KNOX AND SUCH CRAP. THE FIRST DAY I GET MY PHONE IT'S GONNA BE ROOTED AND WITH TWRP INSTALLED.

Try Helium app from goggle --> „Helium - App Sync and Backup”
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup or try Titanium Backup

*elmo* said:
Try Helium app from goggle --> „Helium - App Sync and Backup”
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup or try Titanium Backup
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Will do, but will any of the methods I described work? I just don't wanna install an app if it is possible just with TWRP.

I have used titanium backup pro for 5 years and even more phones. I have never had a problem with any of the backups or restores.

metalfan78 said:
I have used titanium backup pro for 5 years and even more phones. I have never had a problem with any of the backups or restores.
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Titanium is the best. Additionally you can remove or frezze system app....

Ok. Titanium it is then. 10x for the help guys
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koragg97 said:
Ok. Titanium it is then. 10x for the help guys
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My Backup Pro is also a good choice.

koragg97 said:
P.S. I DON'T CARE ABOUT KNOX AND SUCH CRAP. THE FIRST DAY I GET MY PHONE IT'S GONNA BE ROOTED AND WITH TWRP INSTALLED.
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+1 for Titanium backup.
Other method, google for nandroid manager (need root so).
Just copy your (previous) recovery backup on phone, and restore via nandroid manager all that you want.
Be aware of system apps not to restore of course.
Good luck
Franky

fgth90 said:
+1 for Titanium backup.
Other method, google for nandroid manager (need root so).
Just copy your (previous) recovery backup on phone, and restore via nandroid manager all that you want.
Be aware of system apps not to restore of course.
Good luck
Franky
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Won't this actually work just by hitting restore in TWRP and choosing only the "data" part of my backup (why an app)? Or maybe TWRP won't recognise my S3 Mini backup, because it's from another phone?

koragg97 said:
Won't this actually work just by hitting restore in TWRP and choosing only the "data" part of my backup (why an app)? Or maybe TWRP won't recognise my S3 Mini backup, because it's from another phone?
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No, I don't think so.
AFAIK, restoring data will restore all data without restrictions, and it could be bad if you come from another phone or ROM.
With nandroid manager, you can choose what you want to restore (app or app+data) for user app or system app, for every app you want.
You have to copy your last backup from old phone to new one, choose it by nandroid manager then navigate for options of restore.
You can restore bluetooth-wifi pairings, sms, mms, call logs, and apps (app or app+data).
Google for a tuto on "how to", here's an exemple http://www.informationlord.com/how-to-restore-nandroid-backup-without-cwm/.
Good luck
Franky

fgth90 said:
No, I don't think so.
AFAIK, restoring data will restore all data without restrictions, and it could be bad if you come from another phone or ROM.
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I think that choosing Advanced Restore in TWRP settings gets you to this window and then you choose what to restore. It's the same with backing up, you choose backup and then select with "x" the partitions you wanna backup. I just didn't know if restoring just "data" will break my phone, but now I know it won't, because when the phone is new there aren't going to be any apps installed in the "data" partition (all are pre-installed in "system"). So I'll just have to go to TWRP, choose advanced restore and only select "data" with "x", then swipe to restore. If something goes wrong I can always go back to recovery and wipe "data" (I'll still have all of my system apps) or even flash a stock ROM with Odin

koragg97 said:
I think that choosing Advanced Restore in TWRP settings gets you to this window and then you choose what to restore. It's the same with backing up, you choose backup and then select with "x" the partitions you wanna backup. I just didn't know if restoring just "data" will break my phone, but now I know it won't, because when the phone is new there aren't going to be any apps installed in the "data" partition (all are pre-installed in "system"). So I'll just have to go to TWRP, choose advanced restore and only select "data" with "x", then swipe to restore. If something goes wrong I can always go back to recovery and wipe "data" (I'll still have all of my system apps) or even flash a stock ROM with Odin
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Yep, starting from zero = you risk nothing
Could you please report and say if it's ok or not (just to have the info).
Thanks in advance
Franky

fgth90 said:
Yep, starting from zero = you risk nothing
Could you please report and say if it's ok or not (just to have the info).
Thanks in advance
Franky
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Ok, but I'm not getting my S5 since Christmas (maybe even February) so you might have to wait a bit Thanks for the tips, though
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koragg97 said:
Ok, but I'm not getting my S5 since Christmas (maybe even February) so you might have to wait a bit Thanks for the tips, though
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the least we can say is that you'll be prepared!

fgth90 said:
the least we can say is that you'll be prepared!
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Yup xD
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It's almost here
My S5 arrives next week I'm gonna use this app, because I don't want to restore all of my apps (gonna flash Alliance 5.6 so.. xD). Will report if it works, as promised

A word of caution.......
Your new S5 will be preinstalled with KK.
If your old phone has a different version of Android, be VERY cautious about installing app data.....There is a very good chance that doing so will cause instability and force closes of your apps.......
Restoring the apps themselves this way shouldn't cause any issue......you'll just see a message that says something like "android is upgrading.......1 of xx apps" before your phone starts.....but as I said, data *may* prove to be a whole other issue.......
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Sooo... here I am. It worked 50% with ZipMe. Apps copied but their data didn't.
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Device got restored automatically and app data gone

Early morning when I woke up, I saw the language option coming on the home screen. I thought I got an upgrade to Android M automatically, so, I moved on with the all the process of setting up the device. Later on, there came an option to keep all the 81 apps and it's data, so, I choose 'Yes'. It was shocking to see that it was no upgrade but a reset was automatically initiated. Though all the apps are being downloaded and installed but the app data is gone which was more than important to me. I was using an app called Expense Manager (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.markushi.expensemanager) and I really want the data back. Please help me out with this and yes, my device is not rooted. Android version is 5.1.1

sahil1033 said:
Early morning when I woke up, I saw the language option coming on the home screen. I thought I got an upgrade to Android M automatically, so, I moved on with the all the process of setting up the device. Later on, there came an option to keep all the 81 apps and it's data, so, I choose 'Yes'. It was shocking to see that it was no upgrade but a reset was automatically initiated. Though all the apps are being downloaded and installed but the app data is gone which was more than important to me. I was using an app called Expense Manager (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.markushi.expensemanager) and I really want the data back. Please help me out with this and yes, my device is not rooted. Android version is 5.1.1
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Did you make a nandroid with TWRP? Or titanium backup?

Evolution_Tech said:
Did you make a nandroid with TWRP? Or titanium backup?
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No, I did nothing.

sahil1033 said:
No, I did nothing.
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I'm afraid you most likely can not recover that data.

No most likely about it. OP is SOL. Data cannot be recovered in this situation by ANY means.
If something is valuable to you on your tablet TAKE BACKUPS FREQUENTLY.

Evolution_Tech said:
I'm afraid you most likely can not recover that data.
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fwayfarer said:
No most likely about it. OP is SOL. Data cannot be recovered in this situation by ANY means.
If something is valuable to you on your tablet TAKE BACKUPS FREQUENTLY.
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Any good backup app which can be used on non-rooted device. Also, I'm curious why did my device automatically got a reset.

sahil1033 said:
Any good backup app which can be used on non-rooted device. Also, I'm curious why did my device automatically got a reset.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup

sahil1033 said:
Any good backup app which can be used on non-rooted device. Also, I'm curious why did my device automatically got a reset.
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it could have been anything. the cheap flash memory is getting old in these devices. people are having their flash literally fail to unreadable at this point. it could have even been a goddamn cosmic ray hit that triggered it. no way to tell at this point.