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First time installing a ROM

After researching for many weeks on how to root my Kindle Fire, I finally became a noob and rooted my first device. Thanks to all the awesome devs on this site to make that possible.
The next thing I want to do is start flashing some different ROMs to see what my Fire can really do.
After I flash a ROM, do I install data from a previous backup or do I have to start from scratch each time I install a new ROM?
If someone could help shed some light on switching between ROMs (I will be using TWRP) or point me to a thread that might cover this topic I would appreciate it very much. Thanks for your help.
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Depends on what data you are talking about.
General when switching between roms I follow a procedure.
1.Back up current apps with titanium backup.
2.Back up launcher settings with whichever launcher I'm using.
3.Boot into recovery.
4.Factory wipe - dalvik,cache,data,batt,rotation.
5.Flash rom.
6.Boot rom.
7.Restore apps from titanium.
8.Restore launcher settings.
Hope this helps!

Thanks! I am backing up my apps and system data with TB right now.
So is the backup I do within TWRP a ROM backup that has nothing to do with apps or data?
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I always backup in TWRP first. Wipe cache before and after installing rom.
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KnappyRoot said:
So is the backup I do within TWRP a ROM backup that has nothing to do with apps or data?
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Correct, that's why you need to backup with TB

Just trying to jump into this same world, what happens with all of your books and applications from Amazon when you switch. Does Amazon still push your books to your Kindle.
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MikeGolfW said:
Just trying to jump into this same world, what happens with all of your books and applications from Amazon when you switch. Does Amazon still push your books to your Kindle.
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you can still access your books through the Kindle app and all apps I've downloaded when on stock ROM have worked on my CM7 build

BluesHawk said:
you can still access your books through the Kindle app and all apps I've downloaded when on stock ROM have worked on my CM7 build
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Thank-you BluesHawk, I took the first step last night and installed TWRP along with Burritto. Now we'll see how long it takes me to be brave enough for the next step.

MikeGolfW said:
Thank-you BluesHawk, I took the first step last night and installed TWRP along with Burritto. Now we'll see how long it takes me to be brave enough for the next step.
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You're welcome. When you install market make sure to expand it with this build.prop editing guide

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Correct, that's why you need to backup with TB
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Actually TWRP has Ann option to backup data, and I have used it. Never needed TB myself

I just started using TB because it can reliably/easily move apps to SD - freed up LOTS of device memory. Though Apps2SD ran on my rooted stock Fire, it wouldn't give me the option to move them.. In fact, when installing and running Apps2SD, it never requested superuser rights.

I believe I have all the files in the right place to install CM7 barebones. I was wondering, if I wanted to go back to my stock rooted ROM if it was just as easy as installing the backup I created with TWRP. Guess I could unroot and remove TWRP and start from scratch but I am hoping not to go that route.
I think bob posted this same question in another thread but I thought I would ask here too to see if we could get more answers.
Thanks for all your help.
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would never ever flash the original stock rom (besides if returning the kf) cause you loose fff,twrp and root
furthermore there is a higher risk to brick
would instead recommend to flash one of the prerooted stock roms if you want to go back to stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22393194&postcount=20

I am still a little confused. What is the purpose of doing a backup within TWRP?
I just want to be prepared before I install my first ROM.
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KnappyRoot said:
I am still a little confused. What is the purpose of doing a backup within TWRP?
I just want to be prepared before I install my first ROM.
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to get back to your previous state in case something goes wrong

Restoring backup of old device to new device

Will it work?

Yes. If it's the same device!
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kboya said:
Yes. If it's the same device!
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Vague, but it's a replacement. Please verify

cmg5461 said:
Vague, but it's a replacement. Please verify
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I tried this!!! I do not suggest it!!! Nothing went.. wrong per say.. everything restored nicely and I went on my way, but it had more lag spikes, it had random freezes while screen was off that required a reboot, and biggest of all, it semi corrupted the sdcard partition so it couldn't be accessed, I ended up just wiping my device and starting fresh, works fine now to wipe I suggest locking boot loader and reunlocking to get it really well wiped. For the record my restore was with only data which a Dev deemed safer than a full restore but sadly as he suspected, there were problems. You can I think use titanium backup on non system apps pretty safely though
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My answer was as specific as your 'question'. Assuming it is N7 to N7, with both in near identical states (I.e. ROM, apps, wipes etc) then it should work. However, restoring data is usually a hit-miss affair and YMMV.
'Old' and 'new device', as you stated, only make complete sense to you and the many mind readers and/or voyeurs and stalkers
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kboya said:
My answer was as specific as your 'question'. Assuming it is N7 to N7, with both in near identical states (I.e. ROM, apps, wipes etc) then it should work. However, restoring data is usually a hit-miss affair and YMMV.
'Old' and 'new device', as you stated, only make complete sense to you and the many mind readers and/or voyeurs and stalkers
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Well we are in the N7 forum, and asking to restore data from a custom rom to a stock device would just be asking for trouble, lol.

yea golden rule, dont load a backup from one device to a replacement of that same device. apps are fine through titanium backup but dont be loading nandroid backups

I do this all the time across my devices .Restore my CUSTOM TI Backup but you need to selectively choose what to restore. This works ONLY With APPS AND APP DATA. NO SYSTEM APPS OR SYSTEM APP DATA. that is how the sd card becomes currupt. Also if you do a FULL BACKUP SAY OF YOUR PHONE. then selective restore some of it to A Say your tablet with apps and app data. THIS WILL ALSO NOT WORK IN YOUR FAVOR.
FROM the old device . do a backup of APPS ONLY no (some apps will work with apps and app data) THEN Restore that on your tablet or new device . Do not make a full backup of the old device then selectivity restore from it to the new device. This can also cause issues on the new device.
Hope this is not to complicated to understand im no writer.
The above is from my own personal experience with TI BACKUP... The above is how i have been doing it for years.. GOOD Luck
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cmg5461 said:
Well we are in the N7 forum, and asking to restore data from a custom rom to a stock device would just be asking for trouble, lol.
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installed apps . (APPS THAT WAS not part of the rom)this will work just fine to backup and restore.. Even most will restore app data.
The problem comes when restore apps from one device to another where the app when it installs sets itself for the device type . Then restored to a different device type.. The issue with system apps is it could replace some system settings or files during the restore and currupt data or apps.

I just RMA my nexus device.
Used the command "adb backup -apk shared all"
That backed up my entire device and I didn't have to be rooted or have my boot loader unlocked.
Typed in "adb restore backup.ab" on my new device and was right where I left off.
You need the latest android SDK on you PC and you also need to run those commands as administrator.

I have an "adb backup" file from a stock, first-gen Nexus 7 16GB that was damaged. We replaced it with a second-gen Nexus 7 32GB, which has been rooted without touching the bootloader. We're having trouble getting the games to recognize their data when we restore them piecemeal, so I'm wondering if it would be safe to restore the adb backup from the old device to the new device? Are there enough differences to cause problems? If it fails, will I still be able to simply do a factory reset and get the new N7 back to factory specs? We've only had the new one a few days.

Moving from GNex to N4 ... titanium?

My N4 is on the way after the price drop and i was wondering.. can i do a titanium app backup on my gnex and then restore on the N4?
with no issues (i will be installing paranoid android on it also)

I was just wondering this same thing. I've got a Nexus 7 'flo' waiting for me at home, waiting to be opened, which brought this question to my attention this afternoon. I figured I'd just try it and see what happened, what could go wrong? I assume it'd be fine anyway, I can't think of why it wouldn't be, but maybe wait for someone else who knows more about it to answer, or heck, wait until tomorrow and I'll let you know if it worked for me.

You can indeed try it and see whay happends but I don't think it's a good idea. Alot of roms recommend you NOT to restore your data with Titanium when switching roms while you not only switch roms, but a whole other phone.
You can still try it though, just to be sure make a nandroid backup first.
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failly said:
You can indeed try it and see whay happends but I don't think it's a good idea. Alot of roms recommend you NOT to restore your data with Titanium when switching roms while you not only switch roms, but a whole other phone.
You can still try it though, just to be sure make a nandroid backup first.
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Oh i never restore apps and data, just apps... would that cause issues?

i restored my gnex titanium backup on my n4 and n7, apps only, no issues. before that, i restored my titanium backup from my nexus s to my gnex

You could also do an adb b/u.
When I migrated from the GN to the N4 I did this:
Code:
adb backup -all -nosystem -shared -apk
It will b/u your sd card contents as well and adb can restore MOST apps. There are some however that have to be installed before they can be restored, but this will also copy your TiBU folder (-shared) tag, so...

Gamma Ray said:
Oh i never restore apps and data, just apps... would that cause issues?
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Worst that could happen if restoring data that won't work or is corrupt would be some force closes I think so not really serious issues but irritating issues.
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if you do get fc's from an app for restoring a titanium backup, go to the phones main settings, apps, then find that app and clear its data. it always fixes those fc's.

Yeah, I did a Titanium back up and restore from the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 4 a long time ago. Didn't have any problems. Just make sure to only restore app data and not system data.
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Copy all of my apps from my S3 Mini to the S5?

Hi there, I'm new to the Galaxy S5 forum and don't actually own the device itself yet, but I'm planning on getting it in a few months so here goes my ? :
Since I've got around 300 apps on my current phone, I don't wanna download and update each apps's settings all over again when I get my new S5 and I was wondering if doing a nandroid backup of my S3 Mini containing just the "data" partition and restoring it on the S5 will work and all of my apps will be copied over with all of their settings untouched, BUT I also won't lose any of the preinstalled apps on the S5 itself?
Or maybe I can try this app and make flashable zips of my apps and then flash them on the GS5?
This has always been the main trouble I have had when switching phones before, though I never switched from Android to Android. Hope someone can shed some light on my question and make me buy the S5 sooner Good night all!!
P.S. I DON'T CARE ABOUT KNOX AND SUCH CRAP. THE FIRST DAY I GET MY PHONE IT'S GONNA BE ROOTED AND WITH TWRP INSTALLED.

Try Helium app from goggle --> „Helium - App Sync and Backup”
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup or try Titanium Backup

*elmo* said:
Try Helium app from goggle --> „Helium - App Sync and Backup”
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup or try Titanium Backup
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Will do, but will any of the methods I described work? I just don't wanna install an app if it is possible just with TWRP.

I have used titanium backup pro for 5 years and even more phones. I have never had a problem with any of the backups or restores.

metalfan78 said:
I have used titanium backup pro for 5 years and even more phones. I have never had a problem with any of the backups or restores.
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Titanium is the best. Additionally you can remove or frezze system app....

Ok. Titanium it is then. 10x for the help guys
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koragg97 said:
Ok. Titanium it is then. 10x for the help guys
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My Backup Pro is also a good choice.

koragg97 said:
P.S. I DON'T CARE ABOUT KNOX AND SUCH CRAP. THE FIRST DAY I GET MY PHONE IT'S GONNA BE ROOTED AND WITH TWRP INSTALLED.
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+1 for Titanium backup.
Other method, google for nandroid manager (need root so).
Just copy your (previous) recovery backup on phone, and restore via nandroid manager all that you want.
Be aware of system apps not to restore of course.
Good luck
Franky

fgth90 said:
+1 for Titanium backup.
Other method, google for nandroid manager (need root so).
Just copy your (previous) recovery backup on phone, and restore via nandroid manager all that you want.
Be aware of system apps not to restore of course.
Good luck
Franky
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Won't this actually work just by hitting restore in TWRP and choosing only the "data" part of my backup (why an app)? Or maybe TWRP won't recognise my S3 Mini backup, because it's from another phone?

koragg97 said:
Won't this actually work just by hitting restore in TWRP and choosing only the "data" part of my backup (why an app)? Or maybe TWRP won't recognise my S3 Mini backup, because it's from another phone?
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No, I don't think so.
AFAIK, restoring data will restore all data without restrictions, and it could be bad if you come from another phone or ROM.
With nandroid manager, you can choose what you want to restore (app or app+data) for user app or system app, for every app you want.
You have to copy your last backup from old phone to new one, choose it by nandroid manager then navigate for options of restore.
You can restore bluetooth-wifi pairings, sms, mms, call logs, and apps (app or app+data).
Google for a tuto on "how to", here's an exemple http://www.informationlord.com/how-to-restore-nandroid-backup-without-cwm/.
Good luck
Franky

fgth90 said:
No, I don't think so.
AFAIK, restoring data will restore all data without restrictions, and it could be bad if you come from another phone or ROM.
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I think that choosing Advanced Restore in TWRP settings gets you to this window and then you choose what to restore. It's the same with backing up, you choose backup and then select with "x" the partitions you wanna backup. I just didn't know if restoring just "data" will break my phone, but now I know it won't, because when the phone is new there aren't going to be any apps installed in the "data" partition (all are pre-installed in "system"). So I'll just have to go to TWRP, choose advanced restore and only select "data" with "x", then swipe to restore. If something goes wrong I can always go back to recovery and wipe "data" (I'll still have all of my system apps) or even flash a stock ROM with Odin

koragg97 said:
I think that choosing Advanced Restore in TWRP settings gets you to this window and then you choose what to restore. It's the same with backing up, you choose backup and then select with "x" the partitions you wanna backup. I just didn't know if restoring just "data" will break my phone, but now I know it won't, because when the phone is new there aren't going to be any apps installed in the "data" partition (all are pre-installed in "system"). So I'll just have to go to TWRP, choose advanced restore and only select "data" with "x", then swipe to restore. If something goes wrong I can always go back to recovery and wipe "data" (I'll still have all of my system apps) or even flash a stock ROM with Odin
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Yep, starting from zero = you risk nothing
Could you please report and say if it's ok or not (just to have the info).
Thanks in advance
Franky

fgth90 said:
Yep, starting from zero = you risk nothing
Could you please report and say if it's ok or not (just to have the info).
Thanks in advance
Franky
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Ok, but I'm not getting my S5 since Christmas (maybe even February) so you might have to wait a bit Thanks for the tips, though
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koragg97 said:
Ok, but I'm not getting my S5 since Christmas (maybe even February) so you might have to wait a bit Thanks for the tips, though
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the least we can say is that you'll be prepared!

fgth90 said:
the least we can say is that you'll be prepared!
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Yup xD
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It's almost here
My S5 arrives next week I'm gonna use this app, because I don't want to restore all of my apps (gonna flash Alliance 5.6 so.. xD). Will report if it works, as promised

A word of caution.......
Your new S5 will be preinstalled with KK.
If your old phone has a different version of Android, be VERY cautious about installing app data.....There is a very good chance that doing so will cause instability and force closes of your apps.......
Restoring the apps themselves this way shouldn't cause any issue......you'll just see a message that says something like "android is upgrading.......1 of xx apps" before your phone starts.....but as I said, data *may* prove to be a whole other issue.......
Sent from my rooted Kn0x0 SM-G900F S5

Sooo... here I am. It worked 50% with ZipMe. Apps copied but their data didn't.
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Backup

So you guys seem to load ROMs on your phone like my wife tells me I'm fat. What is your backup strategy? What tools do you use? I plan on helping the community by testing new ROMs but would like the phone to not be down for huge amounts of time and be able to revert to a known good configuration when a ROM goes bad.
Thanks
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pandimus said:
So you guys seem to load ROMs on your phone like my wife tells me I'm fat. What is your backup strategy? What tools do you use? I plan on helping the community by testing new ROMs but would like the phone to not be down for huge amounts of time and be able to revert to a known good configuration when a ROM goes bad.
Thanks
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TWRP recovery makes full backups that you can revert to. It'll be like nothing wrong happened. Only takes about 2 minutes and it's up to you how often you do it. I make backups whenever I make major changes or flash a new ROM.

Thanks for info I'll do that
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Cobra04 said:
TWRP recovery makes full backups that you can revert to. It'll be like nothing wrong happened. Only takes about 2 minutes and it's up to you how often you do it. I make backups whenever I make major changes or flash a new ROM.
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Yes, TWRP with a recent backup is like having a magical time machine. VERY important when you are rooted (being total admin of your handheld computer) and you are flashing new stuff which may be FANTASTIC or may be very buggy.
"Wow, wish I could go back to yesterday when my phone was working great!" You can.
I make a backup almost every day (or at least every other day), just as part of a morning routine, since it takes almost no effort and is cheap insurance. When I'm at work, I boot my phone into TWRP recovery, start the backup. Pick up the phone a few minutes later, delete the previous backup (I only keep one at a time), and then reboot the phone.
At least 3 or 4 times a year, I am VERY glad I made a backup.
You can even transfer off a backup file to a PC or elsewhere for safe-keeping if you wish.

Thanks did my first backup...
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Probably a different conversation, but what about when you install from a fresh new ROM? Do you just download everything back from the play store? And configure your software from scratch or is there and easy method for that?
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Probably a different conversation, but what about when you install from a fresh new ROM? Do you just download everything back from the play store? And configure your software from scratch or is there and easy method for that?
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Titanium backup can backup apps and your settings that you can restore once you flash a fresh ROM.

Cobra04 said:
Titanium backup can backup apps and your settings that you can restore once you flash a fresh ROM.
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Thanks yet again
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I backup with a new hack. Or iffy vulnerability.
Otherwise I just flash.
Pictures are on Google photo backup
Phone numbers are on Google cloud,
All I have to do is install a working ROM and if I have to I can use twrp and a cable to transfer it over.

Is there a way to backup just app data, titanium took forever to restore apps and data. I found it easier to restore via google,but now have to restore all app data
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pandimus said:
So you guys seem to load ROMs on your phone like my wife tells me I'm fat. What is your backup strategy? What tools do you use? I plan on helping the community by testing new ROMs but would like the phone to not be down for huge amounts of time and be able to revert to a known good configuration when a ROM goes bad.
Thanks
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Wish I could load roms on my phone............
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