[Re : XDA review] Great camera with a not-so-good screen ... - Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion

Reference XDA A2 review : https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-a2-review/
With respect to its price point, it would not be an overstatement to say that the Mi A2 has probably the best camera at the $250 / €280 price point for photos. ...
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It would have been a great display had Xiaomi included a working, calibrated sRGB mode, but as it is, the phone sadly provides inaccurate colors with no color profiles. Strengths include good viewing angles, low color shift, and great clarity, while weaknesses include the lack of high brightness mode and a pink tint that affects grayscale accuracy.
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What's the point in a mobile having a very good camera if the display is not good ? Most users would view the images on the same mobile.
Not only the Mi A2 but for mobiles in general.
Wonder if the reviewer transferred the images to a PC with a good IPS monitor.

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Screen Modes Comparison?

I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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I was wondering the same. I didn't care for the colors on the S3 and find my iPhone 5 screen/colors much better. I think I'm really going to like the S4, particularly if you can change the display modes.
bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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htc has Super LCD
iPhone has IPS
and Samsung has Super AMOLED with some special matrix of pixel from Samsung
So samsung devices are little bit darker than iphones and htcs and thr s little bit problem in sun-light to use tham (u will have to set brightness to 100% to use galaxy S3 (for example) on sun-light)
u can search Galaxies pixel matrix on google and check lots of img about it so u will get ur answer better.
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x102x96x said:
htc has Super LCD
iPhone has IPS
and Samsung has Super AMOLED with some special matrix of pixel from Samsung
So samsung devices are little bit darker than iphones and htcs and thr s little bit problem in sun-light to use tham (u will have to set brightness to 100% to use galaxy S3 (for example) on sun-light)
u can search Galaxies pixel matrix on google and check lots of img about it so u will get ur answer better.
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You haven't read my post have you?
bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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To the OP, check this piece via GSMArena (with links to the original source) - looks like the Adobe and Film modes are the real deal for colour temperature and accuracy. Colour accuracy is dramatically better than the One, which has a colour temperature of ~8000 (worse than the S3, decidedly blue tint that discolours greys in particular, I notice the same on my HTC BUtterfly).
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Comparison threads are not allowed on xda
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First, title says it all
Comparison threads are not allowed on xda
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whats your problem why dont you go troll somewhere else. you have to make silly comment on each thread.
OP i have just had Galaxy S4 coluor reproduction isnt as goo as lcds unfortunately. still same on RGB mode screen get dimmer too

Color OS Camera VS CM Camera(Examples)

Color OS Camera sample
http://s24.postimg.org/s66in1305/IMG_20150512_134205.jpg
CM Camera
http://s23.postimg.org/lobcj026z/IMG_20150512_134220.jpg
Now, you people judge which is the better quality picture of the two.
For me, COLOR OS has natural colors but CM Camera gives a bit more punchier colors. Clarity is great on both.
How can we decide... it's not the SAME photo on a tripod, and for sure you focused a different point in each, so different exposure for sure...
Only clear difference, it's that Cm Camera have more saturated colors than the "natural" coloros camera..
Cm Camera looks better to me...
Also, the resolution has been reduced so the actual image compression can't be compared.
I reckon that you maybe used the modded camera next which increased saturation by default.
In all my comparisons there were no visible differences between the color os and cm camera
when equally setup on auto mode.
Second photo has increased saturation (see leaves) and contrast (see sky). That's the whole difference. Reduce those parameters and you will see no difference
The examples are kind of pointless. As many pointed out - not original size, not the same composition/focus point.
As for CM camera Saturation and contrast is increased, but it can be set accordingly (at least in CMNextMOD).
Thurisaz99 said:
Cm Camera looks better to me...
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agree with you cm camera more contras detail
Cameranext is better. Don't even need to look at those samples.
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to me color OS on those pics.
Please use the existing thread HERE

Attention Camera Boffs

There's a new app over on the Nexus forum which works on our Z5's and is supposed to highly enhance quality up to 32MP area
What do you think of the quality on our phones?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=65509846
Ben36 said:
There's a new app over on the Nexus forum which works on our Z5's and is supposed to highly enhance quality up to 32MP area
What do you think of the quality on our phones?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=65509846
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The info in the link says it's not compatible with the Z5. So, I didn't give it a try.
I'm skeptical about how well it would work given the Z5 only gives 3rd party apps access to 8MP of resolution. I would expect higher detailed results from the higher resolution available to the native app, than the multi-exposure stitching scheme this app is using.
At the moment only for nexus devices I think so....
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There's a non play store download link in the OP and it works with our Z5. I've tried it out
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It works, will try some photos tomorrow at day light.
still uses Sony's noise reduction algorithm so pretty much the same just different aspect ratio
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still uses Sony's noise reduction algorithm so pretty much the same just different aspect ratio
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I'm not so sure - this app definitely does suffer at the hands of Sony's brutal noise reduction. But particularly using the front camera, I noticed an increase in quality using this app. Here is my test (sorry about the selphy images but I noticed more of a marked difference using the front camera!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByO19bEKY9TKZ2tWSTY1SzV3M1k/view?usp=sharing
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I'm not so sure - this app definitely does suffer at the hands of Sony's brutal noise reduction. But particularly using the front camera, I noticed an increase in quality using this app. Here is my test (sorry about the selphy images but I noticed more of a marked difference using the front camera!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByO19bEKY9TKZ2tWSTY1SzV3M1k/view?usp=sharing
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Lol, your eye is brown in one shot green in the other
I disagree, quality the same, maybe slightly worse due to some interpolation going on (causing slight blurriness in details) this was most noticeable when photographing objects with text in the shot.
Manual mode still produces the best photos on this sensor/Sony camera software combo, but it could be much better without the Sony camera software - jpg algorithm.

Good camera review. Decent results off point and shoot.

This the best camera review to date. Manual control under Pro Photo produces really decent photos. http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/honor_7x_review
Personally I find camera poor very dull lacks colour rubbish in low light haven't tinkered with pro mode much but found very small improvement hope it's better with oreo
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DoobyDroid said:
Personally I find camera poor very dull lacks colour rubbish in low light haven't tinkered with pro mode much but found very small improvement hope it's better with oreo
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Its keeping in mind the price at which this is packed at.. It was nearly competing the 5t
But 5t gives crisper images due to more pixels of course..
I had the Honor 7x and the OnePlus 5T at the same time and i didn't see much difference in the camera. The 5T can get good low light shot but it is a hit and miss situation, same with the 7x. In daylight the 7x is an excellent shooter for the price, actually i did a full review and by the end i post some photo samples if anyone's interested.
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I had the Honor 7x and the OnePlus 5T at the same time and i didn't see much difference in the camera. The 5T can get good low light shot but it is a hit and miss situation, same with the 7x. In daylight the 7x is an excellent shooter for the price, actually i did a full review and by the end i post some photo samples if anyone's interested.
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It's Our pleasure Bro....

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia 1 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So,.... Basically, on the camera front,...
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Finally.
Full review with samples coming soon.
photos
daily photos. This mode definitely overcomes the Galaxy S10. We compared these two smartphones during the shoot. The shot is fast
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It seems that it still has issues with overblown light sources and dynamic range. Maybe someone could test if there is a difference with the HDR-mode or even RAW-photos developed with LR? Thanks.
presets said:
It seems that it still has issues with overblown light sources and dynamic range. Maybe someone could test if there is a difference with the HDR-mode or even RAW-photos developed with LR? Thanks.
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Dynmic range is fine. There's a difference between always-on HDR, which leads to unrealistic levels of detail in shadows and dark skies on a bright day, and "good" dynamic range. The Sony gets it about right.
You CAN get the same results as competitors if you hop over to Manual HDR - which is a whole new algorythm, as far as I can see - but I've done it a few times now and,... I just think it looks fake. Which it is.
The X1 outputs the most realistic and reliable photographs of any current smartphone.
They're impeccably coloured, naturally exposed and full of detail.
Don't be fooled into being told that flattening the dynamic range is what makes a picture good - there's far more at play than that. The DR on the X1 is absolutely fine and the rest of the output is, frankly, top-of-the-pack.
Samples: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
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You CAN get the same results as competitors if you hop over to Manual HDR - which is a whole new algorythm, as far as I can see - but I've done it a few times now and,... I just think it looks fake. Which it is.
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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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My p20 pro has really spoiled me in that regard. It is insane how good it handles contre jour (against the light).
presets said:
The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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Your wish is my command,...
https://youtu.be/DbzytyjfWJk
Link to full resolution images in the description, as are my notes.
Random point and shoot. Love how each image turns out of this camera. Colour grading, sharpness and dynamic range is on point. Little bit of tweaking makes images so dramatic. Definitely one of my favourite phone cameras.
4K video with gimbal and Cinema Pro app is great too. Would be amazing to shoot cinematic videos.
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Your wish is my command,... Link to full resolution images in the description, as are my notes.
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Thanks so much. Really great. :good:
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someone on ESATO mentioned main camera lens of all unit are faulty.
what do you think?
https://www.esato.com/phonephotos/cam/sony/j9110/201906060815K2dnO6.jpg
I don't find the camera all that, stutter speed is laggy and the focus is not as good as my Samsung note 9.
I will play around more and see but I think few more updates on the camera are needed.
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a5ian300zx said:
I don't find the camera all that, stutter speed is laggy and the focus is not as good as my Samsung note 9.
I will play around more and see but I think few more updates on the camera are needed.
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Testing some more, I will like to correct my comment the clarity of the picture is sharper than the note 9, I will test the stutter speed when I get chance.
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a5ian300zx said:
Testing some more, I will like to correct my comment the clarity of the picture is sharper than the note 9, I will test the stutter speed when I get chance.
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side by side comparison with Note 9 is welcomed....
if xperia 1 takes comparable or better photos than Note 9...that is considered very good news for most casual users
Onepunchbro said:
side by side comparison with Note 9 is welcomed....
if xperia 1 takes comparable or better photos than Note 9...that is considered very good news for most casual users
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A look at GSMA's tests show that it does. It's a noisier image certainly but Samsung have always been over-the-top with their noise suppression and there's no doubt at all that the X1 produces more detail with better, more natural colours. Yes you have to manually go into HDR to reign in bright skies if the Sony doesn't select "backlight" - unlike the Sammy - but it's a slight problem that's just a tap away.
What I love about this camera is how natural the images look. They don't look over-processed or over contrasty. The colours are realistic and the DR is very,.. dunno. Filmic? Every picture I take with the thing just looks classy.
I'd put it above the Pixel too: resolved detail is about the same for both (IE better than Samsung's) but Sony's images are cleaner. Even at night - and despite "Night Light" - the Sony's night shots are better than the Pixels, IMHO.
The only phone that seems to be genuinely producing something better on the camera front is the P30 Pro - so long as the AI mode is switched off. If you can live with the 2mp detail loss, I'd say it just about keeps hold of the top spot. The Sony has the better camcorder, however,.... so,.....
But I've no doubt at all that the Xperia 1 is top two in the smartphone camera race this year. No doubt at all.
xzpremium1976 said:
photos
daily photos. This mode definitely overcomes the Galaxy S10. We compared these two smartphones during the shoot. The shot is fast
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I have both xperia 1 and S10plus.....no way for Sony to beat s10+ photos. Also videos in 4K are horrible and the stabilisation terrible in Sony.
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Timaustin2000 said:
A look at GSMA's tests show that it does. It's a noisier image certainly but Samsung have always been over-the-top with their noise suppression and there's no doubt at all that the X1 produces more detail with better, more natural colours. Yes you have to manually go into HDR to reign in bright skies if the Sony doesn't select "backlight" - unlike the Sammy - but it's a slight problem that's just a tap away.
What I love about this camera is how natural the images look. They don't look over-processed or over contrasty. The colours are realistic and the DR is very,.. dunno. Filmic? Every picture I take with the thing just looks classy.
I'd put it above the Pixel too: resolved detail is about the same for both (IE better than Samsung's) but Sony's images are cleaner. Even at night - and despite "Night Light" - the Sony's night shots are better than the Pixels, IMHO.
The only phone that seems to be genuinely producing something better on the camera front is the P30 Pro - so long as the AI mode is switched off. If you can live with the 2mp detail loss, I'd say it just about keeps hold of the top spot. The Sony has the better camcorder, however,.... so,.....
But I've no doubt at all that the Xperia 1 is top two in the smartphone camera race this year. No doubt at all.
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All the photos if you crop them are much noisier than s10+ photos...
Nop the photos of the S10 + leave burned and with more noise
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marko68 said:
I have both xperia 1 and S10plus.....no way for Sony to beat s10+ photos. Also videos in 4K are horrible and the stabilisation terrible in Sony.
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All the photos if you crop them are much noisier than s10+ photos...
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And if you crop into all - and I mean all - of GSMA's S10 images you'll notice that they contain much less fine detail than the sony, especially at night.
If "Ooooh, there's no noise" is how you judge a camera then you've a long way to go, my friend.
GSMAs comparisson shots - and my own experience with both - tell the same story over and over again: The Sony produces a more detailed, better composed shot with extremely accurate White Balance without the temptation to blow greens and reds up to 20, as the S10 does. Yes, the Sony sacrifices some noise in the persuit of more detail but the detail is important: it gives pictures texture and fidelity. It gives realism. Ever since the s7, Samsung's awful processing algorythm has saught to display no noise whatsoever and every time I see the same result: plastic images with flat detailing, over-contrasted, over coloured. Great for instagram but awful as actual pictures.
If you don't actually care about the quality of pictures, go ahead and love the S10. I'll take that little extra noise (LESS noise, I might add, than any LG OR the Pixel 3 range - by a significant margin) for a truly textured, composed image.
And there's no question that the S10 is worse at night. Its saving grace is that it controls strong light sources better than the Sony but it's the X1 that has less noise, more detail, better colours and a far more realistic exposure (strong light sources accepted as a failing).
An S10 would not, for example, capture this image https://flic.kr/p/2gcamWy - (as usual, download it in full res). Noise is virtually nil, detail is very high for the light available (you can read the graffiti in the dust of the van and see blades of grass in shadow), it's sharp, colours are accurate, exposure is on point - including the sky, which was still partially lit. An S10 would have overexposed all of the shadows, blown out the sky and removed the fine detail - I see it time and time again.
But love what you love. C'est La Vie. But, with respect, that doesn't make you right.
Timaustin2000 said:
And if you crop into all - and I mean all - of GSMA's S10 images you'll notice that they contain much less fine detail than the sony, especially at night.
If "Ooooh, there's no noise" is how you judge a camera then you've a long way to go, my friend.
GSMAs comparisson shots - and my own experience with both - tell the same story over and over again: The Sony produces a more detailed, better composed shot with extremely accurate White Balance without the temptation to blow greens and reds up to 20, as the S10 does. Yes, the Sony sacrifices some noise in the persuit of more detail but the detail is important: it gives pictures texture and fidelity. It gives realism. Ever since the s7, Samsung's awful processing algorythm has saught to display no noise whatsoever and every time I see the same result: plastic images with flat detailing, over-contrasted, over coloured. Great for instagram but awful as actual pictures.
If you don't actually care about the quality of pictures, go ahead and love the S10. I'll take that little extra noise (LESS noise, I might add, than any LG OR the Pixel 3 range - by a significant margin) for a truly textured, composed image.
And there's no question that the S10 is worse at night. Its saving grace is that it controls strong light sources better than the Sony but it's the X1 that has less noise, more detail, better colours and a far more realistic exposure (strong light sources accepted as a failing).
An S10 would not, for example, capture this image https://flic.kr/p/2gcamWy - (as usual, download it in full res). Noise is virtually nil, detail is very high for the light available (you can read the graffiti in the dust of the van and see blades of grass in shadow), it's sharp, colours are accurate, exposure is on point - including the sky, which was still partially lit. An S10 would have overexposed all of the shadows, blown out the sky and removed the fine detail - I see it time and time again.
But love what you love. C'est La Vie. But, with respect, that doesn't make you right.
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Look at these two photos :
https://ibb.co/zZJr87p
https://ibb.co/wyx0Ft2
Flowers in Sony photo they have no details, you can't see properly the empty spaces in between flower petals, the s10+ photo is full of details, details missing in Sony
These photos are shot by myself not taken from an internet review...

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