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Today I learned something : Never buy LG smartphones'. My G3 crashed while I was surfing on facebook and a blue screen appeared, after few seconds, the smartphone turned off and no more sign of life. Tomorrow I will try to repair it with this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...very-guide-t3132359/post65003040#post65003040 . According to what I read on the web, the G2 has the same problems, the G3 suffers from the problem of battery and slow GPS, the G4 and the V20 from reboot ...
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Finally, I succed to repair my G3, by burning the internal memory with a HAIR DRAYER ?
Thank you for your opinion. It helped me a lot.
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Who's forecing you? Buy an iphone
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Who's forecing you? Buy an iphone
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Nobody forces me, and I no longer trust LG, all their products have problems after some months of use :crying: .
I can not buy apple products because it's expensive and I do not like their CLOSED SYSTEM .
My next smartphone will surely be an Xperia.
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thank you for your opinion. It helped me a lot.
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you're welcome
I had iphone an I had xperia phones. But the best smartphone that I had was LG. And I have a g3 and a g4. Never had any problems with them.
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vic604 said:
I had iphone an I had xperia phones. But the best smartphone that I had was LG. And I have a g3 and a g4. Never had any problems with them.
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I'm not the only one to have these problems, many G3 are victims of the blue screen of death and reboots caused by the battery after 6 months of use, the body of the phone that breaks near the micro and the usb port.
The G4 suffers from bootloops.
achour7 said:
Today I learned something : Never buy LG smartphones'. My G3 crashed while I was surfing on facebook and a blue screen appeared, after few seconds, the smartphone turned off and no more sign of life. Tomorrow I will try to repair it with this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...very-guide-t3132359/post65003040#post65003040 . According to what I read on the web, the G2 has the same problems, the G3 suffers from the problem of battery and slow GPS, the G4 and the V20 from reboot ...
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I respect your opinion Sir. Everyone is entitled to their choices and opinions
But please ....please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
Any device will have its ups and downs.
I have used LG devices for a very long time and I am completely convinced that their device is very robust and bricking it requires special (shall I call it special stupid skills ) skills
So. please try to be composed and not to spread negativity.
I dont use LG G3 but I know there are brilliant devs here and people who will swear that their devices are working great.
I am not closing this thread on the account of leaving users opinions but plz avoid spreading confusing conflicting biased opinions
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TOO BAD for you ... because LG G3 is one of the best smartphones that I used and ENJOYED USING IT in my life .. ps: I never had this problem and I hope you could solve it good luck
Never had one issue or the reboot problem with the battery however I replaced with aftermarket batteries after awhile...have had every Rom installed and used it while not rooted...everything put on ur phone requires reading up on this knowing the knowledge of what's going on to your phone along with adjustments from your own experience...most of what goes wrong is user ERROR. I would suggest you do your homework before blaming LG for your problems although I hope you can resolve them and good luck
I´ve been using LG since the ¨LG Chocolate¨ days I´ve had almost every single ¨G¨ phone you name it (OG1,G2, G Pro, GFlex, G3, GFlex2, G4, V10) even the Nexus devices 4 and 5... And I gotta tell you there´s nothing like the G3. 5 G4s have died outta nowhere and I´ve lost money cause they were out of warranty, plus @bountyman334 stole my last good G4 when I sent it to him for repair. My V10 lasted 3 months and I bought it new from VRZW, that one I sent it to factory and they fixed it with a new motherboard.
But sincerely I ditched LG for Moto again, rocking the Moto X Pure now and loving it (same specs as the G4 only no bootlooping and quite large development community).
But I still love the G3, I´m ordering one as I type, it has a great dev community and its a beast phone!
SREEPRAJAY said:
I respect your opinion Sir. Everyone is entitled to their choices and opinions
But please ....please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
Any device will have its ups and downs.
I have used LG devices for a very long time and I am completely convinced that their device is very robust and bricking it requires special (shall I call it special stupid skills ) skills
So. please try to be composed and not to spread negativity.
I dont use LG G3 but I know there are brilliant devs here and people who will swear that their devices are working great.
I am not closing this thread on the account of leaving users opinions but plz avoid spreading confusing conflicting biased opinions
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I agree with you, the G3 is a very good machine, it was the best smartphone of 2014, but reliability is a disaster, I flashed a long time ago Fulmics 6.7 to avoid overheating, I Replaced the battery twice (originals batteries.) My brother has the Xperia Z3 and flash every day roms but the smartphone is still intact.
My friend has a G3 and has reboots after 7 months because of the battery, on the web, lot of users have the same problem.
Well, I am still using a G3 and I really love it. Easy root, good custom roms, XDA community support. I bought a G5 in hope of root and custom ROM support. Mine was not the EU varient since I don't live in europe (mine is South African H850), so I didn't get bootloader unlock. While I was hoping root from XDA community, nothing came so far. Just because of that I'm getting rid of it tomorrow. None of the LG devices got so much xda community support after G3. Locked bootloader is an issue obviously.
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Never had one issue or the reboot problem with the battery however I replaced with aftermarket batteries after awhile...have had every Rom installed and used it while not rooted...everything put on ur phone requires reading up on this knowing the knowledge of what's going on to your phone along with adjustments from your own experience...most of what goes wrong is user ERROR. I would suggest you do your homework before blaming LG for your problems although I hope you can resolve them and good luck
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I'm blaming LG beacause I'm not the only one who had these issues, I ever had baseband issue with an Xperia SP but It was the only model that had it and sony exchanged it for free. The G4 suffers from bootloops after generally 4 mounths, LG exchenged it for free, but once the warranty ends it will be necessary to pay
Unfortunately, the guide did not help me, I flashed all thepartitions but no sign of life.
never had issues with the phone. soon it'll be 2 years since I have it. I'll probably just buy new battery and skip upgrade for at least a year more...
I think LG G3 is the best phone in 2014, but not as good as the Samsung hardware, many faulty screen machines and resources, so sad.
here's my rant (sorry for broken english in advance)
- awful GPS. I've owned not so much android devices, flagship mainly. I've never faced GPS problems, till G3 =). I thought it's impossible to be a flagship device and have poor GPS. But guys from LG think different.
The problem is both with hardware and software. I know what i'm talking about. I tried to fix it since i have this phone.
Hardware: bad connection between pins on MB and cover. Software: it keeps loosing GPS lock randomly. You can turn gps toggle off and then on again, and will lock almost instantly.
A year ago i was traveling with family miles away from home, i didn't have data plan, may this was a reason.. anyway my G3 started to loose GPS when i was in center of Warsaw. God i was mad.. After that it continue to loose gps till i back to my home region
Even now, when i "fixed" HW problems GPS reception is just poor. I have some ASUS cheap tablet, this thing can lock gps anywhere - on the backseats of a car, in a building even w/o AGPS
Don't tell me that "i don't know what are talking about, my GPS is fine". No it's not, try to google "LG * GPS" where star is anything from G2-G5, V10, V20, nexus 5 - top results will be about poor GPS. This is major LG problem
- Overheating. I don't actually understand how it's possible to have such kind of issues in 2014. This is LG - one of the biggest phones manufacture, right? Don't they have quality control department or something like that ? I have only one explanation for myself is they just don't care.
Under heavy load phone heats up almost immediately. The problem is that phone becomes laggy at these moments, also you can't adjust brightness to 100% (because it's hot), and you can't charge it more than ~80%. And when you using it , for example, as a navigation on a dashboard... well, you have to stop using it, because it's charging, heating by a sunlight, heating up by it's display, GPS chip, CPU so display dims to 5%
- The loss of SD card slot. Several months ago my phone started to throw messages "sd card unexpectedly removed". I bought a replacement card - same thing. I don't actually know whether it's HW or SW issue, because it can work for a day or two, but eventually comes to this error. And it's not only me:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/sd-card-unmounting-t3462752
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/sd-card-major-hardware-problem-t3464949
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-sd-card-randomly-unmounting-t3138756
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/lg-g3-d850-ejecting-sdcard-marshmallow-t3460538
https://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/5ls0ei/sd_card_unexpectedly_removed_continues_to_unmount/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/4js10i/sd_card_keeps_ejecting/
- And least. Yesterday my phone started dropping WiFi connection.
Lg g3 - is the most unreliable phone i've ever had
I use my phone much. Navigation, notes, RD client ,tv show watching, lots of stuff. My work and life depends on a phone. If yours’s too - avoid LG phones.
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>Who's forecing you? Buy an iphone
I don't understand your point. Will it make LG better ? Obviously not.
>Any device will have its ups and downs.
The OP is talking about major issues with this phone. These are not just pros and cons. The fact that other phones are not so great doesn't make G3 better. LG G3 still remains bad phone.
>please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
It's not just opinions. Take a look to the Help & Troubleshooting section: bootloops, screen death, hard bricks, no sd card - for the past month.
Sheep...
My g3 is the best phone I've owned, still matches up to the newer phones my friends try gloating about..
Specially with custom os on it.. stuck a 6000mah battery in it and never looked back.
Shame you didn't have a good time with yours.
SREEPRAJAY said:
I respect your opinion Sir. Everyone is entitled to their choices and opinions
But please ....please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
Any device will have its ups and downs.
I have used LG devices for a very long time and I am completely convinced that their device is very robust and bricking it requires special (shall I call it special stupid skills ) skills
So. please try to be composed and not to spread negativity.
I dont use LG G3 but I know there are brilliant devs here and people who will swear that their devices are working great.
I am not closing this thread on the account of leaving users opinions but plz avoid spreading confusing conflicting biased opinions
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i've bricked mine several times in one day
Finally, my G3 is totally dead. Hairdryer/oven methods don't work anymore
I understand there is a trial and error, and one can always use the US996 boot for the rom and see if it loads the H918 rom.
But is there anyone who can confirm this works? I am trying to trudge through threads and it's far and few with a definitive answer.
Please, any information is appreciated.
As I am stuck deciding between H918 and the US996 model LG v20 to purchase.
The h918 and us996 are closely related. Even tho it seems the h918 is getting a lot of attention dev wise, they mostly focus on that device first then add other variants of the v20 to it. So I'd say if you have no patience you can go with the h918 if your willing to wait you can get the us996. But it's always good to have an unlocked device, hope you don't take this wrong.
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The h918 and us996 are closely related. Even tho it seems the h918 is getting a lot of attention dev wise, they mostly focus on that device first then add other variants of the v20 to it. So I'd say if you have no patience you can go with the h918 if your willing to wait you can get the us996. But it's always good to have an unlocked device, hope you don't take this wrong.
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I wanted to say thank you for you reply.
These are my sentiments actually.
I understand T-mobile version is the most beloved when it came to the v10 (as that was the most easily rooted one).
And it continued here, albeit LG posted their own bootload unlocked for the v20 on their website.
I see there is some dev support for the US996. But it's falling behind the h918.
And of course factory unlocking is the way to go. I'm just thinking of longevity of the phone. 2+ years down the road.. Which will have the most dev support?
I don't upgrade every year. I think it's ridiculous.
And I understand v20 is in its infancy.. But which wins long term? H918 or US996?
Because the h918 is getting all the love in the beginning.
Will there be a point where the tides turn and some more seasoned developers focus on the US996 and the h918 falls behind?
I understand it's silly to speculate so early. But these are my questions before I hop onto this v20 train. I want it so bad. Lol.
You're asking us to predict the future. Logic says most people have carrier models because not everybody wants to put up $600-$800 upfront for a phone. Either one you choose now guarantees root. Up to you. There are some slight differences like 918 having FM radio. Which features are more important?
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You're asking us to predict the future. Logic says most people have carrier models because not everybody wants to put up $600-$800 upfront for a phone. Either one you choose now guarantees root. Up to you. There are some slight differences like 918 having FM radio. Which features are more important?
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Genuinely. I never thought about that. Up front for the phone. That's very true. That's probably why t-mobile has taken off.
Maybe a pros and cons of each device?
I understand the US996 is more capable with networks.
And the h918 has fM radio.
Besides that. There really is no difference?
It all comes down to EOL after the phones. I think tmobile is a safe bet. We have resurrection remix rom already for that variant... Which I run on my galaxy s3.
So longevity is important to me.
I bought the note 4 910H. Boy was I wrong. Barely any roms. And the snap dragon version has resurrection remix among other 7.1.1 roms going for it.
Interesting topic. I'm not concerned about if the 996 development'catches up' to the 918. The question to me is still there be enough.
I too am a longer term user. I'm on the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 so I could have root. I'm generally not enthused about putting ROMs on, as I find there are virtually always issues of some kind.
That being said, it was getting slow enough that I finally started putting ROMs on it, and finally landed on Maximum Overdrive's ROM. It is a great ROM, and has allowed me to extend life of the phone...in fact I'm still on it. I see he is doing a ROM for the 918, and had indicated he will not be developing for the 996 because he does not have one.
I'm interested in the 996 mainly because it will work on both AT&T and Verizon. Data is so bad where I live that I'm considering changing carriers. If not for that I'd get either a Oneplus 3T, or a Mate 9. I'm getting tired of paying $800 for phones.
Would be good to hear that ROMs are interchangeable.
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Interesting topic. I'm not concerned about if the 996 development'catches up' to the 918. The question to me is still there be enough.
I too am a longer term user. I'm on the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 so I could have root. I'm generally not enthused about putting ROMs on, as I find there are virtually always issues of some kind.
That being said, it was getting slow enough that I finally started putting ROMs on it, and finally landed on Maximum Overdrive's ROM. It is a great ROM, and has allowed me to extend life of the phone...in fact I'm still on it. I see he is doing a ROM for the 918, and had indicated he will not be developing for the 996 because he does not have one.
I'm interested in the 996 mainly because it will work on both AT&T and Verizon. Data is so bad where I live that I'm considering changing carriers. If not for that I'd get either a Oneplus 3T, or a Mate 9. I'm getting tired of paying $800 for phones.
Would be good to hear that ROMs are interchangeable.
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This is excellent. I encourage all discussion. I'm sure I'm not the only one experiencing this dilemma.
In all honesty, I'd probably stick with my note 4 until it borked.. But there's no support for my model, really. Very little. And it's stuck on 6.0 marshmallow. Lame.
A lot of note 4 users seem to find their way over to the LG V20 side. It's almost like the bigger brother in a way.
If I knew what I know now. I'd have bought the tmobile model too, or close to it. For the support it has.
Also, I believe the maximum overdrive is already out for the v20?
Are you planning on moving to the v20?
I spent 800 for this note 4.. Not including the square trade warranty.
Its just nice to be on the phone that can last with developer support.
If lg keeps it up. I'm sure the v30 and v40 will be outstanding.
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This is excellent. I encourage all discussion. I'm sure I'm not the only one experiencing this dilemma.
In all honesty, I'd probably stick with my note 4 until it borked.. But there's no support for my model, really. Very little. And it's stuck on 6.0 marshmallow. Lame.
A lot of note 4 users seem to find their way over to the LG V20 side. It's almost like the bigger brother in a way.
If I knew what I know now. I'd have bought the tmobile model too, or close to it. For the support it has.
Also, I believe the maximum overdrive is already out for the v20?
Are you planning on moving to the v20?
I spent 800 for this note 4.. Not including the square trade warranty.
Its just nice to be on the phone that can last with developer support.
If lg keeps it up. I'm sure the v30 and v40 will be outstanding.
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As I noted in the post, Max OD is writing for the 918 only. So, even if I went to a V20, I couldn't use the OD ROM...unless it is determined that 918s will run on 996...but everybody says "Don't do that".
But in fact, I have finally decided to NOT go with the V20. I keep reading about folks having the lens on the camera break, and some are emphatic that they did not hit it or do anything to cause it. LG is NOT warranting them for that issue.
I've seen it often enough that whether it is caused by a bump or automatic explosion it's often enough to turn me off of the phone.
So, I guess I'll be hanging on to the Note 4. BTW...I originally had a AT&T model, but it got so horrible with lags and stuff, I sold it and got the T-Mobile version, and it has paid off.
I have given strong thougth to all the latest 'hot' phones: Oneplus 3T, Xaiomi, Asus Zenphone 3, ZTE Axon 7 and a couple others. All have their short comings, either poor picture, not available in intl that would cover both Verizon and AT&T, poor GPS, poor community support, or in the case of the V20...exploding camera lens.
So, my Note 4 will have to hang on a little longer. Interestingly, it is working good enough that I question why I want to get another phone...especially when they are $800.
Eventually I'll have to give up on some of my 'must have' items on the list...and probably have to pay too much money.
Lens break? Do you know how small a sample that is? And have you seen some of the pictures? It was obviously impact. Some people are in denial. Always some thread about something. What phone hasn't a bad battery life thread?
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Lens break? Do you know how small a sample that is? And have you seen some of the pictures? It was obviously impact. Some people are in denial. Always some thread about something. What phone hasn't a bad battery life thread?
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I'm sure it is a small percentage. And I'm sure a small percentage of folks that have that happen even know about this forum to come and complain.
Optimus G, G2, and G3 (current phone) owner here. Is this phone going to be a unlocking nightmare like previous LG phones? IE bump on the G3? Deciding between the G6, S8+, or waiting even longer. Rooting and unlocking is a must, and if this phone is going to be as finicky as previous LGs I think it might be time to jump ship after 5 years with LG.
Edit: Just wondering about peoples predictions, because I scanned the forums for the V30 and G5.
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Optimus G, G2, and G3 (current phone) owner here. Is this phone going to be a unlocking nightmare like previous LG phones? IE bump on the G3? Deciding between the G6, S8+, or waiting even longer. Rooting and unlocking is a must, and if this phone is going to be as finicky as previous LGs I think it might be time to jump ship after 5 years with LG.
Edit: Just wondering about peoples predictions, because I scanned the forums for the V30 and G5.
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Well, the carrier S8's have an even lower chance of root than the G6 if the S7 has shown anything. Carrier S7's can't even have custom roms, only modifications to the stock rom.
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Well, the carrier S8's have an even lower chance of root than the G6 if the S7 has shown anything. Carrier S7's can't even have custom roms, only modifications to the stock rom.
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Thanks for the info. Samsung always had lively development back in the day, so I guess I just assumed it would have it now. I'll keep an eye on the G6 and S8 forums to see how things go. It really sucks that the HTC U ultra doesn't have a headphone jack. I would have picked it up in a heartbeat. HTC really shot themselves in the foot. For now, I guess I might just stick with the G3. It has EVERYTHING new phones have except for a fingerprint scanner. Only thing underpowered is the GPU.
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Thanks for the info. Samsung always had lively development back in the day, so I guess I just assumed it would have it now. I'll keep an eye on the G6 and S8 forums to see how things go. It really sucks that the HTC U ultra doesn't have a headphone jack. I would have picked it up in a heartbeat. HTC really shot themselves in the foot. For now, I guess I might just stick with the G3. It has EVERYTHING new phones have except for a fingerprint scanner. Only thing underpowered is the GPU.
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I highly forsee the G6 getting root. At least the T-Mobile version should since it can be bootloader unlocked it seems.
No idea on the G6 yet, but the V20 has/had it as an option, and I haven't found a reason to give up my hotspot with it yet. I love Samsung phones, but not having the option of it, is a killer for me.
G3 I bought early and got it rooted early. G6 I'm hoping for an early breakthrough, wouldn't hold off buying (though I'm waiting for a good sale on the us997 or VZW variants), as rooting became progressively tougher as holes were plugged.
Recent Samsungs (including contemporaries of the g3, IIRC) have been really tightly locked down.
I really love/want root. After almost 3 years with a rooted G3 I'd hate not being able to use AdAway, XPrivacy, etc.
It's getting harder and harder to root. And sadly there is less and less demand as well as the market being spread thinner. While I would love root (miss Titanium Backup as well as Tasker) to be able to remove or freeze unnecessary apps, I'm actually really happy with the phone as is.
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I am a type of geek who like using a phone for long period of time(3.5years for my original moto g now).
I really like the hi-fi audio recording and quad-dac in the V20,but I am worrying about the software support of the phone.I don't want to stuck with outdated software over years of time to degrade the user experience.(retailers in my cities are selling H990N which cannot unlock BL)
So another alternative - HTC 10,come to my mind with some sacrifices,but come with countless dev support to keep me on par with latest android update.
So which one should I choose???
(they are both selling for about $400 USD in my country)
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I am a type of geek who like using a phone for long period of time(3.5years for my original moto g now).
I really like the hi-fi audio recording and quad-dac in the V20,but I am worrying about the software support of the phone.I don't want to stuck with outdated software over years of time to degrade the user experience.(retailers in my cities are selling H990N which cannot unlock BL)
So another alternative - HTC 10,come to my mind with some sacrifices,but come with countless dev support to keep me on par with latest android update.
So which one should I choose???
(they are both selling for about $400 USD in my country)
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Me personally, as a tinkerer, would go with which ever phone has support for BL unlock. However, if its primarily software support your worrying about the V20 will probably have the same life span as any other top tier smartphone in the same class, if not more. And with the release of Android O, google has confirmed they will stop upgrading the nexus devices first, and will rather update all android devices with updates as they come out. Google is also fighting the many vetting processes that Providers go through before releasing the update to your phones.
TL;DR: Both phones will have support for years to come, google has stopped updating nexus devices exclusively, and if you're worried about BL Unlocks, go with the one that's unlockable.
Edit: Forgot to mention Im almost certain the v20 has better camera hardware & software then the HTC 10 does, but that can be considered an opinion on the internet now a days so, do with it as you will.
Unfortunately Google, OEM's and Carriers mostly dictate what ends up on every phone. And cooperation between the three is often lacking, late, fragmented.
I did my research before getting my V20 so I don't have any expectations regarding newer firmwares, b/l unlock or rooting.
I'll take whatever comes along.
There's very little open development and what there is only covers a few variants.
Although the V20 is a fantastic phone I think you would be better going for the HTC or another similar device.
personally I would go with the v20, no doubt!!
a much better screen (unless you're one of the lucky 10% to find a Sharp panel, the Tianma looks quite awful...), a better dac, even if the aQstic dac on the htc10 isn't a bad choice at all; more ram; v20 was equipped with android N at the launch so my guess is it will be updated to android P
about the custom roms matter: I'm not sure how the dac would behave on a custom rom, so you better check before you decide!
LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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This is my real concern here as I would definitely keep my device for more than 3 years(unless it gets into hardware bootloop), android updates is something important for me
(I use my tiny moto for so long as it gets 7.1.2 running flawlessly)
However,since I love the feature of V20 so much,it is going to be a tough choice
Yeah it probably is a tough choice. But it is your choice. My suggestion was in reply to your post.
The V20 is one of the best phones I've owned. I knew the state of play before I decided to get it. And I've no regrets.
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LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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Lg has never bothered updating to any x.1 release, so I'm quite positive we won't see any 7.1.1 update... As I'm planning to keep this phone for a couple of years I'm hoping Lg will follow his usual 2 major updates policy anyway... we'll see!
. OK, seems you know more about LG's weird ways of doing things than I do. But I'm learning lol.
So, their flagship V20 the first to be released with Nougat out-of-the-box..... then update limbo until whenever they can be arsed....
Marvellous
I'd be happy with a couple of minor updates, at least security patches would be more pertinent.
Personally because you have a removable battery on the v20 I would say go for it.
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Personally because you have a removable battery on the v20 I would say go for it.
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As I'm a careless user who drop the phone more often than anyone else,the removable battery option just makes the phone less durable in drops...
But it has a mil spec drop resistant...
Gosh I can't make any choice?
zack1175 said:
As I'm a careless user who drop the phone more often than anyone else,the removable battery option just makes the phone less durable in drops...
But it has a mil spec drop resistant...
Gosh I can't make any choice?
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The removable battery doesn't affect it's durability, v20 is a bit different in that the back doesn't just pop off there is a button you have to press to remove it. The removable battery won't negatively affect durability.
I think the removable battery is important if you're going to keep your phone long term because the battery is likely the first component to degrade.
As far as updates go LG tends to support their phones for at least one major release (Android O in this case) which is what the majority of manufacturers do.
Google is the only company that tends to support their phones beyond a typical one major release, the Nexus 6 for example has gone from Lollipop (5.x) to Nougat (7.x).
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I say go with the V20 but ONLY after the V30 info has been released. The V30 might be a worthy upgrade so don't throw any money at the V20 yet.
xbmoyx said:
I say go with the V20 but ONLY after the V30 info has been released. The V30 might be a worthy upgrade so don't throw any money at the V20 yet.
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I can't purchase latest flagship as they are beyond my budget well over $200 USD...
(400USD VS 699USD for brand new phone)
I've dropped my phone 3x, the back pops off but it hasn't affected the phone or battery in any way. The phone only got minor scratches. Anyways, if the spare removable battery ? isn't important to you then get htc. I believe to truly enjoy this phone YOU HAVE TO have a spare battery. Battery life isn't that great but with a spare I don't care. We'll good luck
Yeah removable battery is key if you plan on keeping phone for 2+ years. Disassembling the whole phone just to change the battery as well as resoldering it is going to be a pain unless you are ok with dealing with the lost capacity from the battery due to age.
Resoldering?
Batteries are modular so there's no soldering required.
And many phones aren't all that hard to dismantle for battery access. Teardowns are readily available.
rubiicon59 said:
Resoldering?
Batteries are modular so there's no soldering required.
And many phones aren't all that hard to dismantle for battery access. Teardowns are readily available.
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Could have sworn the Nexus 5x my buddy had was soldered when he went to switch out the battery. Maybe not I don't really remember as it's been awhile. That's pretty nice if so, still a pain having to take it apart compared to to just a couple of seconds to pop off the back of the v20.
Also doing a battery pull can be very helpful sometimes in the modding community when rooting and stuff. I've had to do it a few times on my s4 and note 4 back when I was flashing all sorts of different rooms trying stuff out.
Nexus 5x has a connector most phones use a connector but there are some devices that are soldered so it's not unheard of. The iPod nano battery replacement is an example of a battery that requires soldering.
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Wtf iPod Nano?
Some batteries are connected with a plug.
Some connect via spring contacts - V20 for example.
Modular: easy replacement if required, cuts service labour time etc..
I wonder how many recent devices have hard-wired batteries.
For the love of God, are we ever going to get Noughat for the US XT1575 MXPE? It seems at this point it's a lost cause. So many devices have already received it, including Verizon branded phones. I'll never buy Lenovo / Motorola again. In my opinion we should have had Noughat 6 months ago, this is ridiculous. I guess I need to consider another option but being on Verizon limits my access to unlocked phones. What are good options other than Moto? Thanks.
Be patient...I know that is hard but we know it is on its 3rd build for the pure as one of the members got it by accident when the test builds started.
i've resigned myself to the likelihood we will NOT get Nougat, and am now waiting to see if the Nokia 8 (or 9) will be making it stateside.
i like the original Z Play, but the Z2P is a disappointment. Moto is dead.
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For the love of God, are we ever going to get Noughat for the US XT1575 MXPE? It seems at this point it's a lost cause. So many devices have already received it, including Verizon branded phones. I'll never buy Lenovo / Motorola again. In my opinion we should have had Noughat 6 months ago, this is ridiculous. I guess I need to consider another option but being on Verizon limits my access to unlocked phones. What are good options other than Moto? Thanks.
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I am not going to discuss the Nougat issue or the delay... there are rumors as to why it is delayed, but we don't know for sure. We do know the most recent test build was released to testers early this month, and seems stable, so soon hopefully.
As far as your other options for unlocked phones... there isn't much, Pixel, Moto, Apple, some Samsung S7/S7 Edge/S8 models, and the upcoming Essential Phone, that's about it. There is some argument that the situation will change soon, with Verizon sunsetting the CDMA network in 2019 and moving to a pure LTE ecosystem, but until then if you want an unlocked phone those are your choices right now.
I really don't know what the rush is about unless split screen viewing is crucial for you. The only other benefit is somewhat better battery while in doze mode. One issue noted by many users is that nougat is much harder on battery in poor signal areas due to radio management most likely. Since much of my work days are in poor signal areas, I will stick with with marshmallow until I hear the problem is resolved.
sigh...another useless thread to complain about no update.....forget about it..i.ts not gonna happen. This device is dead.
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