Newer Android version for Fire HD - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Are there any plans from Amazon or from an XDA developer to develop a newer OS running the latest (or at least not the 3 year old version the Amazon insist on running)?
thanks in advanced.

Ice_machinE said:
Are there any plans from Amazon or from an XDA developer to develop a newer OS running the latest (or at least not the 3 year old version the Amazon insist on running)?
thanks in advanced.
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I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.

Thanks, that sucks

Was checking in also because of prime day! Any recommended android tablets that are not as restricted? Stock android/rootable is pretty much my only need.

jmblock2 said:
Was checking in also because of prime day! Any recommended android tablets that are not as restricted? Stock android/rootable is pretty much my only need.
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The problem is any "decent" android tablets are overpriced and used units from 2-3 years ago tech wise. All my research before I got my fire hd 10 led me to the following conclusions:
The tablet market is pretty much dead. It is impossible to find a decent tablet now a days unless you
A) buy an older overpriced used one
B) buy apple (so HUGELY overpriced)
C) Make due with an hd 10 that is rooted and running google playstore
Wanna guess which choice I picked since I am in the fire hd forums?

adm1jtg said:
I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.
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Newer end devices, most probably the newer HD 8 and HD 10 will get 6.0 or 7.0 (whichever one Amazon confirmed a year or so ago, newer devices will get sometime whenever). Don't expect anything else, tablet wise, to get anything newer than 5.1.
The base OS is Android and it is customized or butchered as I like to call it. They can't block the install of apks without blocking their own apps. Even if they did block sideloading (i don't think you can), it won't stop you from using Silk to download one off apk mirror and installing it through the documents UI. I'm sure they are well aware people but these to use Google apps more than Amazon apps. For them its a silent selling point because you already bought it. Most buyers are already Amazon members and customers. Remember they lose nothing by allowing us to some of the things we can do, even without root. You'll be back to buy something from them again. They pretty much make pure profit off these things.

adm1jtg said:
I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.
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I just got an HD10 today and would like to root it. I see your line that said: "We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root." What procedure will do this? Got a link for me? Thanks.

nypaulie said:
I just got an HD10 today and would like to root it. I see your line that said: "We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root." What procedure will do this? Got a link for me? Thanks.
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Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire

adm1jtg said:
Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire
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Thanks for responding! May I ask for more detail? Offline rooting? Why upgrade 5600 to 5610? (mine is 5620 BTW) Flashfire? I guess I could Google all this, but since you've done the rooting successfully I am asking you. I have rooted many devices before so I am willing to try but I need more specific instructions. Thanks again.
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Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire
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I think I found it. Let me know if this is the site with the correct method:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860
Thanks.
Paul

nypaulie said:
Thanks for responding! May I ask for more detail? Offline rooting? Why upgrade 5600 to 5610? (mine is 5620 BTW) Flashfire? I guess I could Google all this, but since you've done the rooting successfully I am asking you. I have rooted many devices before so I am willing to try but I need more specific instructions. Thanks again.
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I think I found it. Let me know if this is the site with the correct method:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860
Thanks.
Paul
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Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/tips-tricks-root-t3310569 Have this bookmarked from when I got my tablet, although that's applicable for 5.6.0 and 5.6.1 (iirc). I know they just started pushing out a new FW so make sure you do the offline root method. Hopefully they'll slip up on one of these updates and leave a hole for someone to pop in a bootloader, although I'm not holding my breath.

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Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.
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Good. I have my work cut out for me once I get some free time. Also, someone else responded to my post with the following which contained a link to the same thread that you used - note that this was the 55th posting in that thread. So this gives me some hope that my OS version (5.6.2.0) may be rootable.
"15th July 2018, 03:45 AM |#55
Just to let everyone know, this method works on FireOS 5.6.2.0, build date: July 6th, 2018, 2:06PM."

adm1jtg said:
Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.
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Success! Just finished the job. BUT, once I installed SuperSU I lost root! Deleted SuperSU, redid the rooting thing and I'm back in biz. I use Root Explorer Pro so do I really need SuperSU? Anyway, thanks a million.

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Replacement HDX w/older FW

So i have a 7inch HDX upgraded to the newest firmware....due to an issue i have a replacement from amazon with 13.3.2.1...can i do anything (ie: root, custom rom) with this or am i out of luck?
Thanks!
I'm assuming you're talking about 4.5.2.
You can only install Google apps for now.
Yes....you can root, install custom ROMs, and even unlock the bootloader on that version. Just do not let it update!
just used towelroot and am rooted...any threads you can point me towards for my next steps?
icedtrip said:
Yes....you can root, install custom ROMs, and even unlock the bootloader on that version. Just do not let it update!
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Oops, I must've read that wrong. I thought he said he used to have a device with 13.3.2.1.
i'm rooted and installed the Xposed framework stuff (and the module)...trying to figure out gapps and all that stuff while, instead of using a custom ROM, maybe staying with the kindle fire look/services for now...
Edit: playstore installed and working....but i seem to have no audio....cannot confirm if I had it before....any ideas (other than factory reset and checking audio)?
I just screwed my kindle
i was on 3.2.8 after a downgrade from 4.5.2.
I was greedy wanting more was running hdx Nexuse 1.01 safestrap editon.
now im hard bricked after flashing 3.2.3 bootloader upgrade in safestrap.
phoned amazon, they did troubleshooting nothing happened screen not awaken.
they will phone me back at 8.10pm to tell me if i get a replacement or not. if they do its a win lose situation.
i will possibly lose my downgrade and stuff and if they dont send me a new one, my tablet and tainted pride will be lost forever.
LittleGreenSony said:
i was on 3.2.8 after a downgrade from 4.5.2.
I was greedy wanting more was running hdx Nexuse 1.01 safestrap editon.
now im hard bricked after flashing 3.2.3 bootloader upgrade in safestrap.
phoned amazon, they did troubleshooting nothing happened screen not awaken.
they will phone me back at 8.10pm to tell me if i get a replacement or not. if they do its a win lose situation.
i will possibly lose my downgrade and stuff and if they dont send me a new one, my tablet and tainted pride will be lost forever.
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Sorry for your loss. Amazon will likely offer some type of remediation whether that be a refurbished unit or reduced price on a new HDX. When it arrives you can assess your options depending on what FW is installed. You already played the downgrade game so familiar territory. Fast forward a few weeks and you should be in good shape; maybe a few more grey hairs ...
Newbies take note - read before you flash! HDX bricks easy.
Davey126 said:
Sorry for your loss. Amazon will likely offer some type of remediation whether that be a refurbished unit or reduced price on a new HDX. When it arrives you can assess your options depending on what FW is installed. You already played the downgrade game so familiar territory. Fast forward a few weeks and you should be in good shape; maybe a few more grey hairs ...
Newbies take note - read before you flash! HDX bricks easy.
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I just dont get why it happened flashed in ROM slot 1 then returned to Stock slot and rebooted to system then darkness.
ive been flashing many devices for a long while: Xperia SP, Samsung Galaxy Ace, Yarvik Noble Mini, (Samsung Galaxy s5 not mine). I must of missed some key detail or something i do feel like a fool. RIP Jarek's Kindle, january 1st 2015- 21st february 2015.
I wish i had been given the version promised 3.2.6 but nope amazon lied 3.2.8 thats my excuse to get a replacement.
Thanks @Davey126 you gave me a different light on a dim situation.:angel:
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I just dont get why it happened
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LittleGreenSony said:
now im hard bricked after flashing 3.2.3 bootloader upgrade in safestrap.
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You took a file, which should be flashed with TWRP and not with safestrap.
TWRP does not work with 3.2.8
Yep, the 3.2.3 bootloader upgrade is done if you're on 3.2.4-3.2.6 (at least most easily) by first rolling back to 3.1.0 and then upgrading to 3.2.3., going straight from 3.2.8 the way you did was a guaranteed brick. Sorry man that's tough, the HDX is a really tricky device, don't let it get you down!

Lenovo TB3-850F root?

Just got this tablet today for around the house use light gaming watching YouTube and reading books on it but i can't find any info on this thing and what I do find is conflicting box says 1.00ghz on the 8inch website says 1.30ghz and a completely different cpu, mines manufacturer date was a month ago so I thought I had the latest model it has android 6.0 on it from the factory
Question is its pretty slow in basic games and Web browsing etc is there any info on rooting this or installing a rom allowing over clocking, I'd like to get the performance up a bit if possible.. I have noticed it cuts all cores off but one during some tasks and makes it come to a stand still almost so if I could root just to stop that I'd be happy
Kingroot, maybe?
https://kingroot.net/
I'd be hesitant, though; since it doesn't seem like there's any TWRP - and you'd def want a backup of the system before you root, or OTAs will be a nope.
kingroot failed, requested root and it shows 1 request so i doubt there is any root available for it right now its too new
alastorx said:
kingroot failed, requested root and it shows 1 request so i doubt there is any root available for it right now its too new
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boo-urns.
Kingo Root
Have you tried Kingo Root (via kingoapp.com)?
I was able to rooot my TB3-710F (Android 5.0.1 lollipop) with their windows version after a few attempts. Not sure if there was a trick to it or not. Have flashed back to stock and will try again to see if I can repeat.
Android 6.0 probably fixed most known exploits.
gb96.apk said:
Have you tried Kingo Root (via kingoapp.com)?
I was able to rooot my TB3-710F (Android 5.0.1 lollipop) with their windows version after a few attempts. Not sure if there was a trick to it or not. Have flashed back to stock and will try again to see if I can repeat.
Android 6.0 probably fixed most known exploits.
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Did u manage to get CWM or TWRP?
I had no problems with kingroot , it work very well and has a nice utility app to remove the bloatware etc. download it from the link in this forum here , because there seem to have many weird places who claim to have the latest and best one.. here is the link in the forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Any news? Does smb succeed with TWRP or root on device?
Hi All,
This is perfect thread, I was trying to find info on this Tablet, and there is hardly anything about it...
Has anyone managed to find / know, or get TWRP or CWM onto this device yet?? I was planning on picking one up tomorrow, but it all depends if there is a Custom Recovery available for it....
I see there is a custom recovery available for last years smaller 7" brother Tablet.... Please, let it be so....
Cheers, Lister
My Lenovo TB3-850F, Android 6.0, failed to root with KingRoot or KingoRoot (tried both the APK and Windows versions). Anyone have any other ideas?
My TB3-850F running 6.0, cant root. I've tried King Root, KingoRoot, and many others but nothing is working. Does anyone know how to fix this?
ManderZarshall said:
My TB3-850F running 6.0, cant root. I've tried King Root, KingoRoot, and many others but nothing is working. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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Lenovo Tab 3 8/TB3-850F, Android 6..0...Full root with SuperSU 2.79 and TWRP 3.0.2-r1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-lenovo-tab3-8-tb3-850f-t3559786
MotoJunkie01 said:
Lenovo Tab 3 8/TB3-850F, Android 6..0...Full root with SuperSU 2.79 and TWRP 3.0.2-r1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-lenovo-tab3-8-tb3-850f-t3559786
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Worked great, thank you!
does any 1 know of any custom roms for this tablet ?
darknight83 said:
does any 1 know of any custom roms for this tablet ?
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None that I've been able to find. I'm currently compiling a modified, pre-rooted, debloated & deodexed stock 6.0.1 ROM for this tablet
Cool, that would be awesome. Let me know when it's done and I'll test it for you
Thanks
MotoJunkie01 said:
None that I've been able to find. I'm currently compiling a modified, pre-rooted, debloated & deodexed stock 6.0.1 ROM for this tablet
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On my TB3-850F I notice that Lenovo doesn't really add bloat to begin with. The non-standard apps can simply be uninstalled in the usual way. After years of using Samsung (Note, Note II, Tab 2) this is a refreshing change for me (on Samsung stock ROM the "extra" apps are baked in and can be frozen but not truly uninstalled; OK you can kind of uninstall them with 3C or Titanium but you can't actually reclaim any space so you might as well just freeze them).
Anyway I think a pre-rooted stock ROM is a good idea as there is no Chainfire Auto Root or similar yet and from the other forum posts on this device it's clear that people struggle when using adb and fastboot and TWRP if they are not already familiar with these kinds of tools and environments.
julian67 said:
On my TB3-850F I notice that Lenovo doesn't really add bloat to begin with. The non-standard apps can simply be uninstalled in the usual way. After years of using Samsung (Note, Note II, Tab 2) this is a refreshing change for me (on Samsung stock ROM the "extra" apps are baked in and can be frozen but not truly uninstalled; OK you can kind of uninstall them with 3C or Titanium but you can't actually reclaim any space so you might as well just freeze them).
Anyway I think a pre-rooted stock ROM is a good idea as there is no Chainfire Auto Root or similar yet and from the other forum posts on this device it's clear that people struggle when using adb and fastboot and TWRP if they are not already familiar with these kinds of tools and environments.
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Lenovo is certainly more sparing on the bloat than manufacturers like Samsung for sure, not to mention all the bloat that comes pre-installed on the bulk of carrier branded devices. There are several Google related applications, however, which are baked in. With deodexing, lib removals, app data and app cache, I have been able to free up nearly 500 MB of space, leaving the end user with a bare bones Google infrastructure -- Google Play Services, Framework, Play Store, etc. More and more Android enthusiasts are becoming focused on privacy, and are steering away from all the Google centered applications.
Yeah on root I'm including a patched boot image for full systemless root support, using @Chainfire's SuperSU v2.79 TWRP flashable zip. I've made a couple of stability tweaks to the TWRP custom recovery already available for this tablet as well.
Oh, keep in mind on this particular MTK Board Platform and partitioning index, the /system image partition is allotted to 3.0GB. With bloat removed and some cleanup, the /system partition can be re-sized to 2.3GB using ext4fs, leaving 700MB to be carried back over to the /data partition.
MotoJunkie01 said:
None that I've been able to find. I'm currently compiling a modified, pre-rooted, debloated & deodexed stock 6.0.1 ROM for this tablet
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Much more info in Lister of Smeg's thread (actually for TB3-850F) re recovery, root, stock ROMs etc, here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/lenovo-tab3-8-2016-custom-recovery-t3483454
MotoJunkie01 said:
None that I've been able to find. I'm currently compiling a modified, pre-rooted, debloated & deodexed stock 6.0.1 ROM for this tablet
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You may be interested in this ROM I mentioned in Lister of Smeg's TB3-850F Thread. It's for sister tablet with SIM card, TB3-850M. Fran89 has been working on device tree etc for TB3-850F, but efforts with custom ROM seem to have stalled. PW.
Firmware
Custom ROM - TB3-850M_Corsair_Edition (Android 6.0, odex, root, pure) - for 850M here:
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=764969&st=80 (p5)
Points to:
https://mega.nz/#!y4N2FKBR!eBjDn0l5nfKjTuSO46o3QiKv-Sud4NCoMYUBX7IwOTc
Full link text:
http://4pda.ru/pages/go/?u=https://...fKjTuSO46o3QiKv-Sud4NCoMYUBX7IwOTc&e=56808907
They say not for 850F (p14), but someone may want to try. Be CAREFUL! M Model has different processor.

Pokemon Go with Fake GPS on the S5 Verizon

Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.
Let me rephrase the question. I can update to marshmallow 6.0 with images available on the internet. I will lose the ability to root the phone. But I may be able to run fake gps and play pokemon go.
Or I can try rooting it and then installing xposed or other frameworks to get the set up on lollipop 5.0 - which is root-able.
Which would be the recommended way for someone like me with mediocre android hacking skills and very little time?
Thanks.
Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.
yelloguy said:
Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.
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you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
loadedpampers said:
Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.
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Thanks so much. I am currently not rooted and when I go to MM I cannot be rooted from what I understand. So I think I will do the upgrade when I have some time. I will lose the ability to root but I can live with that.
KaptinBoxxi said:
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?
Also, can anyone point me to a legit MM stock ROM? I have downloaded ODIN but I am nervous about the sketchy websites needing registration for downloading the ROM image. I need stock un-rooted Verizon ROM so I was thinking it should be easy to find. However I am not having much luck on the Googles.
Using Magisk 10.2 and the root bundled with it works. You just have to use Magisk hide which is now bundled with magisk.
I'm on vzw s5 running phoenix rom with root. Can still play pogo. No luck on xposed though.
Just a quick update. I got all the things in place for updating the phone to Marshmallow 6.0 and connected the phone to the computer for the first time. The phone gave me messages about installing software update agent and I followed the instructions. It offered to install the marshmallow update from verizon and I took that offer.
After the update, the option to select a GPS app showed up on the phone. I selected my installed app and almost everything works on pokemon go now.
I say almost because PoGo still jumps back to home location for a short second from time to time. But from what I can tell, the fix needs root. So I'll just leave good enough alone for now.
Thanks for all the help.
yelloguy said:
I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?
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i do so much with my devices that they need to be rooted. i do a lot of app debugging for my friend who makes games to help him out. i do have a spare phone that's not rooted for pogo now though. although htc m7's are awful haha
TechX1991 said:
you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers
kani1544 said:
Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers
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This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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bro chill man. i tried to google it but cant get the answer man. why are u getting so angry man. what did i do. Sorry i just posted my question at ur post to get my answers to my questions. But just curious why wont you share some info, is there some reason or something?
TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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should we chat private pm or something thats why?

Considering a "Root Kitty" for a successful working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 !

Considering a "Root Kitty" for a successful working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 !
I'm wondering if others would ante up to make establish a "Root Kitty", to be paid to someone or some group, who successfully get a working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 and compatible with lower versions, as well?
If this seems a reasonable idea, what do you think would be a reasonable 'amount'?
Anyone else willing to ante up?
Let's take a current head count of interest.
I'd hope this is within forum protocol.
JeffDC said:
I'm wondering if others would ante up to make establish a "Root Kitty", to be paid to someone or some group, who successfully get a working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 and compatible with lower versions, as well?
If this seems a reasonable idea, what do you think would be a reasonable 'amount'?
Anyone else willing to ante up?
Let's take a current head count of interest.
I'd hope this is within forum protocol.
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Are you referring to the Fire TV 1? Because there already is a rooted 5.2.4 rom for the Fire TV 2 thanks to rbox. Perhaps I just didn't understand the question.
dk1keith said:
Are you referring to the Fire TV 1? Because there already is a rooted 5.2.4 rom for the Fire TV 2 thanks to rbox. Perhaps I just didn't understand the question.
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Fire TV 2. For those already rooted, they can install a rooted 5.2.4. I'm understanding that if you are not rooted, you can not.
Am I correct?
JeffDC said:
Fire TV 2. For those already rooted, they can install a rooted 5.2.4. I'm understanding that if you are not rooted, you can not.
Am I correct?
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yes I believe you are. I don't think there is root for 5.2.4 unless you're already on a rooted lower version.
dk1keith said:
yes I believe you are. I don't think there is root for 5.2.4 unless you're already on a rooted lower version.
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Yes. So I'm wondering if other here are interested in getting a 'kitty' going.
Based upon the time of the initial post and no meaningful, affirmative responses, I'd guess not.
JeffDC said:
Yes. So I'm wondering if other here are interested in getting a 'kitty' going.
Based upon the time of the initial post and no meaningful, affirmative responses, I'd guess not.
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I am also on same page , I don't have rooted device with lower versions, Now i want to root the amazon fire tv 2 with Fire Os 5.2.4 version.
Is it possible to downgrade the 5.2.4 to lower versions with out rooting the device ?
sr4shantan said:
I am also on same page , I don't have rooted device with lower versions, Now i want to root the amazon fire tv 2 with Fire Os 5.2.4 version.
Is it possible to downgrade the 5.2.4 to lower versions with out rooting the device ?
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Yeah it's really not possible to downgrade official firmware, and not possible to root a newer firmware according to root expert rbox and all the questions asked about it on aftvnews.
Your best bet is to either wait to get a new Firetv3 in Oct/Nov/or 2018, block updates on it, and see if it can be rooted in first half of its year, or live without root by enjoying sideloaded apps/games, and install other launchers like firstarter v3.2.3 or nova launcher to view your apps in a different way (But new Firetv firmware is improved at letting you see all your apps on screen so other launchers may be unnecessary.). Or try other competitive players like Shield TV but not sure how to root that.
I know without root you miss out on certain specific advantages you desire.
atoneapone said:
Yeah it's really not possible to downgrade official firmware, and not possible to root a newer firmware according to root expert rbox and all the questions asked about it on aftvnews.
Your best bet is to either wait to get a new Firetv3 in Oct/Nov/or 2018, block updates on it, and see if it can be rooted in first half of its year, or live without root by enjoying sideloaded apps/games, and install other launchers like firstarter v3.2.3 or nova launcher to view your apps in a different way (But new Firetv firmware is improved at letting you see all your apps on screen so other launchers may be unnecessary.). Or try other competitive players like Shield TV but not sure how to root that.
I know without root you miss out on certain specific advantages you desire.
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Thnak you very much for your prompt reply. So it is clear that we can not root 5.2.4 version Amazon Fire Tv2.
I'd donate $50 towards a $1K plus kitty.

Fire HD 8 2018 root and rom question

Since it looks like the methods were recently discovered I am having a hard time finding the answer.
All I want to do is root the tablet and put on any version of android or any rom because I want to be able to use google family and can not get it to work in any form with it as a stock amazon fire.
I am comfortable running through all the steps to get xposed and everything else on it but don't want to yet if no other version of android exist for them ATM.
mentalcase87 said:
Since it looks like the methods were recently discovered I am having a hard time finding the answer.
All I want to do is root the tablet and put on any version of android or any rom because I want to be able to use google family and can not get it to work in any form with it as a stock amazon fire.
I am comfortable running through all the steps to get xposed and everything else on it but don't want to yet if no other version of android exist for them ATM.
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I am running Google Play Store, YouTube, Whatsapp etc on my stock 2018 Fire HD 8. No root, only unlocked bootloader. Search this Forum. There is even a method to root it via Linux.
tnsmani said:
I am running Google Play Store, YouTube, Whatsapp etc on my stock 2018 Fire HD 8. No root, only unlocked bootloader. Search this Forum. There is even a method to root it via Linux.
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I currently have all of those installed but am unable to run google family to administer the tablet for my children.

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