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Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
new thread, subsribed!!
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agreed mate
electroking said:
Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
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im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
This is the update schedule for American carriers. Does that mean that unlocked phones will get it sooner? I hope so. I only just bought the note 2 (Best decision ever) and would love it to be running on 4.3 ASAP.
mattytheflasher said:
im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
whokilledsanta said:
I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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or if you go back to stock.
have issues with the ota updater as soon as i root my device. The moment i do that i get the message that my device has been changed and i cannot use the updater then. if i flash stock withouth root i don't have this issue.
reckon its best to make a backup of your apps with TB or any similar program when the official update is available, then flash back stock (no root) and update, afterwards simply restore your normal (non-system) apps and your ready
I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
morph000 said:
I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
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To answer you and the gentleman above... Australia will probably be the last country on earth to get the update as usual. So we might have to reside to getting it of some kind developer who uploads it here somewhere.
If you do wish to get updates you should go back to stock firmware (probably the first backup you made for your telstra 4.1.2) doesn't matter if it's rooted. Connect your phone to the PC and have KIES installed. Click update firmware and update (done, it will automatically unroot your phone and put back the stock recovery). You can easily update after that.
If anyone finds any android 4.3 working please update us here as soon as you can with a link to the page. If I find a working ROM for the official android 4.3 TW ROM I'll post it here too.
I don't think Aussie tel companies will well I don't have high hopes when it comes to Samsung I've always had HTC and Samsung and it's always the same get f all. I'm using 4.3.1 carbon I use GMD spen features for spen control and gestures don't use stock Sammy apps anyway.. just the 4.3 would be good because it's smooth as
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I like the update 4.3 but ill want rom without knox. I need root
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
Ultimately every one on xda will be using the custom 4.3 rom for the note 3 goodies because Samsung will not be releasing those features in it's official release
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morph000 said:
Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
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Okay I will explain what I done for you...
When I first rooted my Galaxy Note 2 in May, I was a new-comer to android, I had an iPhone for a long time. What I done was root my phone, I Odin installed TWRP after rooting because I really don't like CWM (those are the names of the 'recoveries' available), they will replace the default Samsung recovery. Just make sure you get TWRP. I think it's up to TWRP 2.6.3
Well yeah let's get back to the topic, as soon as I rooted I used TWRP to make a backup of my default Telstra ROM (completely with EFS, MODEM, basically tick everything you can possibly backup).
I took that backup and put it on my laptop and on my PC and I kept a copy on my external card the whole time. That was the best idea, any time I ever had any problems with my phone I went back to that backup. I even soft bricked my phone once and after hours of panicking I realised I can just Re-install the default backup, and it fixed my phone.
Oh and I just recently un-rooted my phone to check for updates. All I done was use SuperSU to do an UNROOT. Then went into recover, restored the original backup I made of the Telstra ROM. Plugged my phone into the PC, and used Samsung KIES to check for firmware update. It just restarted my phone, removed TWRP recovery, re-installed the samsung one, and it removed the root completely and I'm basically went back to my original telstra ROM. I can go into settings and check for updates and everything. (I can confirm there is no update as of yet).
AS for your other QUESTION.
ALL THE ROMS in the N7105 Section will WORK with your N7105T Model. It's the same thing. JUST WATCH OUT and make sure you never install N7100 ROMS (They will soft-brick and could hard-brick your phone).
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
morph000 said:
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
morph000 said:
Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
electroking said:
Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
morph000 said:
Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
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I Odin flashed mine straight out of the box before I even set it up pulled backup and kept stock rom for warranty only.. these phones are pretty much unbrickable to an extent just don't go trying flashing n7100 roms and you'll be fine at&t roms are ok too just don't flash their bootloaders or even try to.. I change roms daily and have for like the last 2 years on my original note plus HTC's if your unsure on anything this place is helpful more than bloody Samsung
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Sammobile: 4.3 is rolling out for the S3.
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
Arturofm2 said:
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
follow this (use odin to flash rooted kernel) ......you should search before posting things like this.....google is your friend bro.
GOOD LUCK - BTW use flash fire app in play store to make backups and flash roms
Okay okay.
A quick glance at T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion would have led you to the "How to root the S7 EDGE" thread.
I'd take a look in there if I were you.
Binary100100 said:
Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
Arturofm2 said:
Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
EDIT: I just checked and the root didn't go through... even though ODIN said it was successful
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Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
Binary100100 said:
What you wrote above
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So for what I understood the dev support for this phone is very limited... I know the issues I may encounter, I had them with the galaxy note. but any way... If something I'll unroot it but I want to try it out Thank for you time. I've rooted it.
EDIT: Damn... I really don't like the visual style of Echoe... is that one the only one I can flash??
Binary100100 said:
Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
Arturofm2 said:
How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
Binary100100 said:
I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
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Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
Arturofm2 said:
Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
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I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
Binary100100 said:
I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
Arturofm2 said:
bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammmobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
Binary100100 said:
You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
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You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I didn't do it through that page. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
tduquefjc said:
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Odin this to return to stock firmware.
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
Arturofm2 said:
You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I kept it. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
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Arturofm2 said:
If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
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You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
Binary100100 said:
You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
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Perfect! All I did was reboot it, and the unlocked padlock went away, thank you very much for all your help! Happy new year!
Hey guys, so I plan on getting this phone within the next month and I want to be prepared to unlock the bootloader and install magisk as soon as I get it. The guides I've looked at just jump right into it without explaining anything. What are the best up-to-date guides for bootloader unlocking and custom recovery installing? Thanks for any help!
EarthboundHero said:
Hey guys, so I plan on getting this phone within the next month and I want to be prepared to unlock the bootloader and install magisk as soon as I get it. The guides I've looked at just jump right into it without explaining anything. What are the best up-to-date guides for bootloader unlocking and custom recovery installing? Thanks for any help!
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you need to know that there are 3 versions of the phone. A2017 (chinese), A2017G (intl) and A2017U (USA). I don't really know the exact differences, but keep in mind that the A2017U has probably the best support and has the most ROMs and kernels and stuff available. The A2017 comes, from what I've heard, with a recovery in Chinese. And the A2017G has development and stuff but you definitely want to avoid bricking it (DFU mode might need you to disassemble the phone). Besides from that the guides are well written, for example the one I used for my A2017G was okay (from Controllerboy). Everything's explained. If you find something that's not evident send the guide link here and ask.
I just got this phone today too. Man I don't see why anyone's even rooting this... It's working great for me. I spent a couple hours in settings, setting up Nova, and all that, and I'm really amazed by this phone. Stock Antutu and it's scoring 155k! Very fluid phone too. I got scared during delivery, because I started reading horror stories about this phone, and development it seems like there's always something broken or not working correctly. I really really don't see the need to mess with the software one bit! I would recommend sticking with stock just to see how you enjoy it, before taking any risks. I used to be a flashaholic, but after marshmallow, the need isn't really there anymore. Android has become so smooth, rooting has lost most of its novelty. At least that's my opinion.
Reasons to root
JoRocker said:
I just got this phone today too. Man I don't see why anyone's even rooting this... It's working great for me. I spent a couple hours in settings, setting up Nova, and all that, and I'm really amazed by this phone. Stock Antutu and it's scoring 155k! Very fluid phone too. I got scared during delivery, because I started reading horror stories about this phone, and development it seems like there's always something broken or not working correctly. I really really don't see the need to mess with the software one bit! I would recommend sticking with stock just to see how you enjoy it, before taking any risks. I used to be a flashaholic, but after marshmallow, the need isn't really there anymore. Android has become so smooth, rooting has lost most of its novelty. At least that's my opinion.
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There are a lot of reasons to root it. Maybe you are just used to the Cyanogenmod ROMs ans don't want to use any of the proprietary ROMs and Launchers. XPosed Framework, adblock, VPN, custom CA Certificates and Linux arm with VNC in the background are only some of hundreds of reasons to root your phone.
EarthboundHero said:
Hey guys, so I plan on getting this phone within the next month and I want to be prepared to unlock the bootloader and install magisk as soon as I get it. The guides I've looked at just jump right into it without explaining anything. What are the best up-to-date guides for bootloader unlocking and custom recovery installing? Thanks for any help!
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No need for any guides just use my toolkit: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/tool-axon7toolkit-t3573108
JoRocker said:
I just got this phone today too. Man I don't see why anyone's even rooting this... It's working great for me. I spent a couple hours in settings, setting up Nova, and all that, and I'm really amazed by this phone. Stock Antutu and it's scoring 155k! Very fluid phone too. I got scared during delivery, because I started reading horror stories about this phone, and development it seems like there's always something broken or not working correctly. I really really don't see the need to mess with the software one bit! I would recommend sticking with stock just to see how you enjoy it, before taking any risks. I used to be a flashaholic, but after marshmallow, the need isn't really there anymore. Android has become so smooth, rooting has lost most of its novelty. At least that's my opinion.
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There are obviously reasons for root, BUT i am with you on this one. I have personally not found a reason to root yet. And that means a lot coming from me, as i am a real ROM-whore and update-slut. The firmware suits my needs perfectly, i have a 2017U with firmware B029 installed. Oh and do check @bkores tookit! It rocks!
bkores said:
No need for any guides just use my toolkit: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/tool-axon7toolkit-t3573108
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Hey does your rootkit work with a phone that can't access adb? Like I was looking at the EDL method of returning my Axon 7 to stock for an RMA exchange. I am exchanging it because mtp/quick charge/adb does not work anymore. Fastboot still works.
runderekrun said:
Hey does your rootkit work with a phone that can't access adb? Like I was looking at the EDL method of returning my Axon 7 to stock for an RMA exchange. I am exchanging it because mtp/quick charge/adb does not work anymore. Fastboot still works.
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The bootloader unlock and restore stock options both use EDL.
runderekrun said:
Hey does your rootkit work with a phone that can't access adb? Like I was looking at the EDL method of returning my Axon 7 to stock for an RMA exchange. I am exchanging it because mtp/quick charge/adb does not work anymore. Fastboot still works.
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I've had this problem before. It's because I updated an "N" version of Windows without installing the latest media feature pack. If you have an "N" version of Windows, make sure to install the media feature pack.
EarthboundHero said:
I've had this problem before. It's because I updated an "N" version of Windows without installing the latest media feature pack. If you have an "N" version of Windows, make sure to install the media feature pack.
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I am aware of that issue but this is something else. Quick charge doesn't work at all and adb doesn't either. In fact a buddy of mine plugged his Axon into my computer and it worked just fine so..
I just got this phone today and it came with 6.0.1 MM B29. I am pretty impressed by the features that ZTE has added in to their stock UI. I hear that has gotten better with the N updates.
If I OTA update bone stock to N B25 and decide I miss root, I can go back and downgrade to N B19 via various methods and unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, root, and custom ROM etc?
So. Here we are.
The Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9+ have been released, and many of us are just now hopping on the S8/+ bandwagon. I, very recently, purchased a SM-G955U model variant of the S8+ (hence the second 5 :silly and, like many of you, wanted to root it as soon as I got my hands on it.
I was happily impressed when I hopped on XDA and saw that there were at least *some* relatively updated custom ROMs and root methods. I tried out several using Odin3 (PCR.. and SamPWND... cuz those were the only two relatively popular threads that I found in my 2 minute search) and PCR struck my eye. I downloaded all the necessary files, taking well over 30 minutes on my potatonet, made sure I had both Odin3 and PrinceComsy Odin3 (and Kies... I think that's still relevant), setup the BootLoader, AP, whatever all the other buttons do, and clicked start.
Waited for a few seconds and... a (Succeed 0 / Failed 1) message appeared, as soon as it started.
Looked at my phone, the realization that it wasn't in Download mode kicked in and I smacked myself in the face.
Rebooted into Download mode, reset PrinceComsy Odin, smashed all the buttons again, clicked start and..
(Succeed 0 / Failed 1).
Great.
This has repeated for 3 days now, on all computers, 10s of different USB cables, well over 20 different USB ports (hubs not included).
So, I decided at a different approach. I'm sure we all know those "CLICK ME DOWNLOAD ME FOR FREE ROOT I-I CAN REALLYDO IT GUYS JU-JUST DOWNLOAD ME!* advertisements. One in particular struck my eye, no names will be given, and I tried it out.
Downloaded the Windows executable for the laughs and giggles (never thinking it would actually work) and whaddya know, right after telling me my device is rootable it's now asking me for 40$.
I figured, what the hell, I just got paid and sent the money over thinking I was about to get scammed. Hoped on live chat and setup everything the way they asked me to (taking even longer than a grandma driving because potatonet) and they start, and I'm not joking, REMOTE CONTROLLING my PC to root my phone (granted, the root method for my phone was advertised, blatantly stating they would have to control my PC but.. come on).
At this point all I can think about is how I'm lucky I have a throwaway PC and this phone doesn't mean my life or I would be really pissed when I start seeing a worm come out of my harddrive.
Needless to say the process took about an hour, maybe an hour and a half (much longer than their *15-20 minute* claim time, but not awful nonetheless) and I walked out of there with a non-bricked rooted S8+.
So.. what exactly went wrong with my setup, and how can you guys avoid spending 40$ just to ROOT YOUR PHONE.
I'm not a professional. I can't offer professional advice. But what I can tell you is I know exactly what went wrong for me in this case.
I never flashed the 7.0 stock android ROM. I was trying to flash PCR (which, ironically enough is what said company used.. yes.. they used PCR. Not a custom method. Not a custom ROM. They literally used PCR) over 8.0.
So, I'm out 40$, but walked out with a rooted S8+ and I'm fairly happy. Apparently those root programs aren't ALL bad.
But seriously.. why aren't there any 8.0 ROMs or root methods that actually work? Every method I've seen requires you to downgrade. I know Oreo only came out last month but there are some seriously talented people here on XDA and the fact that I had to downgrade just to have to reflash in about a month or twos time is frustrating to say the least. But, that's just venting and off-topic.
So, laugh at the idiotboy who couldn't figure out how to read instructions properly or setup his project right, but just know.. just know.. I spent 40$ to root my phone. And that, my friends, is an amazing feat.
(Also, I apologize if this isn't in the right section.. I feel like it's not but I have NO idea where else to post this. This is more of a story thread to make myself the eye of the public humiliation but it does also serve as a reminder to really check everything before you start rooting. I got lucky. I could have potentially hardbricked my brandnew s8+ simply because I didn't read the instructions properly, or plan correctly. This is something that a lot of new users fail to do, and then complain when *their phone is stuck in a bootloop*.
If you don't know what you're doing, there are plenty of people here on XDA and apparently all over the web who will be more than happy to take your money and root your phone, relatively safely, for you.)
well as jrkruse said
"root is not going to happen unless on of two things happen. Either we get combo oreo firmware so we have an oreo boot.img that is permissive or they event root that will work on stock enforcing boot.img for oreo because you can not modify the boot.img on a locked bootloader. Systemless root like on S7 will not work unless we have an eng boot.img with security set to 0 like the s7 has, so that scripts can execute at time of boot to allow a systemless type of supersu to run. I personally would not expect root anytime soon as if you look back at whats been released for combo firmware it only seems to be firmware for the original software that came on the phone. They just update the bootloaders to match the version number so that you can still flash the nougat combo firmware, but I doubt we see oreo combo firmware. It just has not happened on earlier models. The S7 has been lucky that eng boot.img have been released for nougat but the s8 would require also eng bootloaders to be released as you simply cant flash an eng boot.img on regular bootloaders like you can on the s7. There is always hope but in this case it is really dim but we do have some options with safestrap and modded system images but this part could come to an end at anytime if samsung patches the samfail method so enjoy what you have for now"
I have a rooted debloated S8+ (SM-G955U) and I've been looking for custom ROMS for days now and all I could find was the G95XF or whatever that is. And I'm tempted just to throw it on my phone and try but I'm too scarred to do it. I'd really like literally any custom ROM because that's kind of the entire reason I rooted my phone so I'm just a tad aggregated as well. I don't see any progress with the ROMS either I've been searching all over XDA and on youtube. But yet nothing. If anyone finds anything do you think you could msg me? Somehow?
Ryan8675309 said:
I have a rooted debloated S8+ (SM-G955U) and I've been looking for custom ROMS for days now and all I could find was the G95XF or whatever that is. And I'm tempted just to throw it on my phone and try but I'm too scarred to do it. I'd really like literally any custom ROM because that's kind of the entire reason I rooted my phone so I'm just a tad aggregated as well. I don't see any progress with the ROMS either I've been searching all over XDA and on youtube. But yet nothing. If anyone finds anything do you think you could msg me? Somehow?
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there is only one rooted rom for 950/5 u do not flash f stuff on your phone not only will it fail in odin but if by some weird act of craziness and worked you would be probably near hardbricked
ghxstt said:
But seriously.. why aren't there any 8.0 ROMs or root methods that actually work? Every method I've seen requires you to downgrade. I know Oreo only came out last month but there are some seriously talented people here on XDA and the fact that I had to downgrade just to have to reflash in about a month or twos time is frustrating to say the least. But, that's just venting and off-topic.
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There actually is a form of root for Oreo but it's not exactly root because you only have access to r/w in recovery/safestrap
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s8+/development/rom-t3771206/page1
Ryan8675309 said:
I have a rooted debloated S8+ (SM-G955U) and I've been looking for custom ROMS for days now and all I could find was the G95XF or whatever that is. And I'm tempted just to throw it on my phone and try but I'm too scarred to do it. I'd really like literally any custom ROM because that's kind of the entire reason I rooted my phone so I'm just a tad aggregated as well. I don't see any progress with the ROMS either I've been searching all over XDA and on youtube. But yet nothing. If anyone finds anything do you think you could msg me? Somehow?
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EDIT; I misread your thread. I thought you were saying you had a G95xF device you were going to throw a G95xU ROM on.
If you have a G95xU device, here is what I used to flash my ROM/root https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-partcyborgrom-aqk3-samfail-odin-t3717702.
If you have a G95xF device, I cannot give you any links because I haven't done any research into that firmware.
EDIT 2; My points still stand. Do NOT flash custom ROMs on your phone that aren't for your phone model. You will ruin your phone.
Just don't. It's not worth it.
Are there any plans from Amazon or from an XDA developer to develop a newer OS running the latest (or at least not the 3 year old version the Amazon insist on running)?
thanks in advanced.
Ice_machinE said:
Are there any plans from Amazon or from an XDA developer to develop a newer OS running the latest (or at least not the 3 year old version the Amazon insist on running)?
thanks in advanced.
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I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.
Thanks, that sucks
Was checking in also because of prime day! Any recommended android tablets that are not as restricted? Stock android/rootable is pretty much my only need.
jmblock2 said:
Was checking in also because of prime day! Any recommended android tablets that are not as restricted? Stock android/rootable is pretty much my only need.
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The problem is any "decent" android tablets are overpriced and used units from 2-3 years ago tech wise. All my research before I got my fire hd 10 led me to the following conclusions:
The tablet market is pretty much dead. It is impossible to find a decent tablet now a days unless you
A) buy an older overpriced used one
B) buy apple (so HUGELY overpriced)
C) Make due with an hd 10 that is rooted and running google playstore
Wanna guess which choice I picked since I am in the fire hd forums?
adm1jtg said:
I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.
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Newer end devices, most probably the newer HD 8 and HD 10 will get 6.0 or 7.0 (whichever one Amazon confirmed a year or so ago, newer devices will get sometime whenever). Don't expect anything else, tablet wise, to get anything newer than 5.1.
The base OS is Android and it is customized or butchered as I like to call it. They can't block the install of apks without blocking their own apps. Even if they did block sideloading (i don't think you can), it won't stop you from using Silk to download one off apk mirror and installing it through the documents UI. I'm sure they are well aware people but these to use Google apps more than Amazon apps. For them its a silent selling point because you already bought it. Most buyers are already Amazon members and customers. Remember they lose nothing by allowing us to some of the things we can do, even without root. You'll be back to buy something from them again. They pretty much make pure profit off these things.
adm1jtg said:
I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.
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I just got an HD10 today and would like to root it. I see your line that said: "We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root." What procedure will do this? Got a link for me? Thanks.
nypaulie said:
I just got an HD10 today and would like to root it. I see your line that said: "We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root." What procedure will do this? Got a link for me? Thanks.
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Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire
adm1jtg said:
Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire
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Thanks for responding! May I ask for more detail? Offline rooting? Why upgrade 5600 to 5610? (mine is 5620 BTW) Flashfire? I guess I could Google all this, but since you've done the rooting successfully I am asking you. I have rooted many devices before so I am willing to try but I need more specific instructions. Thanks again.
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Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire
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I think I found it. Let me know if this is the site with the correct method:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860
Thanks.
Paul
nypaulie said:
Thanks for responding! May I ask for more detail? Offline rooting? Why upgrade 5600 to 5610? (mine is 5620 BTW) Flashfire? I guess I could Google all this, but since you've done the rooting successfully I am asking you. I have rooted many devices before so I am willing to try but I need more specific instructions. Thanks again.
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I think I found it. Let me know if this is the site with the correct method:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860
Thanks.
Paul
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Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/tips-tricks-root-t3310569 Have this bookmarked from when I got my tablet, although that's applicable for 5.6.0 and 5.6.1 (iirc). I know they just started pushing out a new FW so make sure you do the offline root method. Hopefully they'll slip up on one of these updates and leave a hole for someone to pop in a bootloader, although I'm not holding my breath.
adm1jtg said:
Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.
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Good. I have my work cut out for me once I get some free time. Also, someone else responded to my post with the following which contained a link to the same thread that you used - note that this was the 55th posting in that thread. So this gives me some hope that my OS version (5.6.2.0) may be rootable.
"15th July 2018, 03:45 AM |#55
Just to let everyone know, this method works on FireOS 5.6.2.0, build date: July 6th, 2018, 2:06PM."
adm1jtg said:
Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.
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Success! Just finished the job. BUT, once I installed SuperSU I lost root! Deleted SuperSU, redid the rooting thing and I'm back in biz. I use Root Explorer Pro so do I really need SuperSU? Anyway, thanks a million.