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[Q] First time Tablet/Android buyer.

Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.

Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!

wd4oay said:
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.

A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.

just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw

midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?

I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?

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deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.

optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.

optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??

deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.

deeselcyde said:
What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.

Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.

deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.

[Q] Upgrading ROM etc.

A friend saw my Samsung Note 3 performance & asked if I could do anything for her Razr M.
System - 98..7.XT905.Retail.en.au
Android version - 4.1.2
I haven't rooted a Moto before so I did some reading - seems very different to Samsung methods and also seems to have far more ways to do it and also, the thing which gives me pause, a wider variety of things to go wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not afraid of risking my phone - I have bricked my S3 and my Note 3 quite a few times in searching for performance and function.
But this is someone else's phone and she gave it to me for a day!!!
So, given all she really wants is better performance, I'd appreciate any advice on what I should tackle.
Some Q's... (as in point me to threads - I can read and work things out but some pointers on where to look can save me having to read all the threads in all the forums for a phone I will probably never touch again)
1. How do I protect against bricking? i.e. what is the standard way to reflash a stock ROM if things go wrong?
2. Is there a Moto repository for stock ROMs? Sammy has sammobile.com where all new releases (and old) are available for DL - does Motorola have similar or is it just Google and hope?
3. What level do I need to go to just to give better performance? (e.g. on my Note I did a lot of debloating to improve things, but that came after root, kernel and custom recovery so I could remove system apps etc.) Do I need to unlock BL or just root and install a custom ROM?
4. At first glance there doesn't seem to be many custom variations of the stock ROM, mostly CM and AOSP types. I am not sure how different that would make her phone to use, so I am assuming I'd be better sticking with a stock-customised ROM - is that a correct assumption?
Thanks for any assistance...

Journyman16 said:
A friend saw my Samsung Note 3 performance & asked if I could do anything for her Razr M.
System - 98..7.XT905.Retail.en.au
Android version - 4.1.2
I haven't rooted a Moto before so I did some reading - seems very different to Samsung methods and also seems to have far more ways to do it and also, the thing which gives me pause, a wider variety of things to go wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not afraid of risking my phone - I have bricked my S3 and my Note 3 quite a few times in searching for performance and function.
But this is someone else's phone and she gave it to me for a day!!!
So, given all she really wants is better performance, I'd appreciate any advice on what I should tackle.
Some Q's... (as in point me to threads - I can read and work things out but some pointers on where to look can save me having to read all the threads in all the forums for a phone I will probably never touch again)
1. How do I protect against bricking? i.e. what is the standard way to reflash a stock ROM if things go wrong?
2. Is there a Moto repository for stock ROMs? Sammy has sammobile.com where all new releases (and old) are available for DL - does Motorola have similar or is it just Google and hope?
3. What level do I need to go to just to give better performance? (e.g. on my Note I did a lot of debloating to improve things, but that came after root, kernel and custom recovery so I could remove system apps etc.) Do I need to unlock BL or just root and install a custom ROM?
4. At first glance there doesn't seem to be many custom variations of the stock ROM, mostly CM and AOSP types. I am not sure how different that would make her phone to use, so I am assuming I'd be better sticking with a stock-customised ROM - is that a correct assumption?
Thanks for any assistance...
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Stock ROM repository for XT905 -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=20
You should be able to use towelroot to root it.
Can't help much further since I have XT907
Edit: You could try freezing some unneeded bloatware (I know there's A LOT of that on the stock ROM for my phone) to free up some memory improve performance and conserve battery

rahimali said:
Stock ROM repository for XT905 -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=20
You should be able to use towelroot to root it.
Can't help much further since I have XT907
Edit: You could try freezing some unneeded bloatware (I know there's A LOT of that on the stock ROM for my phone) to free up some memory improve performance and conserve battery
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Thanks for the help. I'm learning... I gave her phone back with just a few tweaks and will get it back when I am confident I can unbrick anything that might go wrong.
In the Sammy world, freezing apps requires root - same in the Moto-world?

Journyman16 said:
Thanks for the help. I'm learning... I gave her phone back with just a few tweaks and will get it back when I am confident I can unbrick anything that might go wrong.
In the Sammy world, freezing apps requires root - same in the Moto-world?
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Root will be required for freezing system apps, not for users apps. Rooting should be fairly simple (hopefully). Install, supersu from the playstore, have data/wi-fi internet connectivity, install towelroot and use that to get root.

Don't let her update it the latest update breaks root. Hopefully she is on kitkat and that is why her phone is performing poorly. Root with towel root then run motoapkakypse.apk to unlock the boot loader. Now honestly there aren't any Roms I'd call a daily driver yet with the kitkat kernel so you'll have to downgrade to the jellybean kernel and install one of the top 3 or 4 Roms... I'm still on stock I found that location services and a few wake locks were the problems and fixed them with an app called app ops
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ROM Support for the SM-T337T?

I have come across some very cheap Galaxy Tab 4's on eBay that I was wanting to try out. I'm a T-Mobile customer so I'm interested in the SM-T337T (band 12 support woo hoo!)
I see that there are recoveries for the tablet so it looks like I'm not the first to wonder.
Basically, my question is: which Lollipop/Marshmallow ROMs are currently supported and stable on the SM-T337T? And have we been able to reliably root/install recovery on them?
Thanks,
-coach

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Coachmark2 said:
I see that there are recoveries for the tablet so it looks like I'm not the first to wonder.
Basically, my question is: which Lollipop/Marshmallow ROMs are currently supported and stable on the SM-T337T? And have we been able to reliably root/install recovery on them?
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Unfortunately there are no custom ROMs for the SM-T337T. There has been an official lollipop update, and since there are working recoveries, you should be able to use chainfire's systemless superSU root method (you most likely need the systemless root because the lollipop update is 5.1.1). The fact remains though that nobody has made a custom ROM for this tablet. Sorry

thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Unfortunately there are no custom ROMs for the SM-T337T. There has been an official lollipop update, and since there are working recoveries, you should be able to use chainfire's systemless superSU root method (you most likely need the systemless root because the lollipop update is 5.1.1). The fact remains though that nobody has made a custom ROM for this tablet. Sorry
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Thanks for the reply. What can I do to help the situation? What would be required on my end to port a different ROM to it? Either from a "stock" Cyanogenmod or from an existing Galaxy Tab 4 ROM?

Coachmark2 said:
Thanks for the reply. What can I do to help the situation? What would be required on my end to port a different ROM to it? Either from a "stock" Cyanogenmod or from an existing Galaxy Tab 4 ROM?
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For cyanogenmod you'd need a computer running linux, whether in a virtual machine or dual booting windows and linux (I have that setup on my Windows laptop, Ubuntu works fine), you'd need to set up your build environment, sync the necessary repos from Cyanogenmod's github, you may or may not (but probably will) have to create a device tree, but I imagine you can probably use moonbutt74's github repos to get you started on that, and once all that preliminary work is done you'll have to figure out what proprietary files are needed from the Tab itself. And of course it would be a good idea to download and inspect Samsung's source code for your device. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, this would be a good place to start reading: https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Development#Learning_To_Build_CM

Thank you for the very thorough response. I just don't wanna be "that guy" who gets on here and says "Waaahhhh the devs aren't supporting my device!" I'd rather help
When I get home in a few days, I'll fire up the build environ and see what I can do with her. Here's hoping no bricking!

SM-T337T
Coachmark2 said:
Thank you for the very thorough response. I just don't wanna be "that guy" who gets on here and says "Waaahhhh the devs aren't supporting my device!" I'd rather help
When I get home in a few days, I'll fire up the build environ and see what I can do with her. Here's hoping no bricking!
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I have that device on 5.1.1 and rooted it here(in case you haven't found this yet);
//autoroot.chainfire.eu/
Root available for both 4.4.4 & 5.1.1.
I would personally love to see marshmallow on this device! Currently settling for some Touch-Wiz debloating for now.

Does anyone have updates on this? I recently got an SM-T337T and would like to de-bloat it -- first on the chopping block would be TouchWiz. If there's a ROM that takes care of this, that would be nice, but I might be able to do it on my own?
Also, I'd really like 6.0.1, instead of 5.1.1 that's currently on it.

SnowWolf75 said:
Does anyone have updates on this? I recently got an SM-T337T and would like to de-bloat it -- first on the chopping block would be TouchWiz. If there's a ROM that takes care of this, that would be nice, but I might be able to do it on my own?
Also, I'd really like 6.0.1, instead of 5.1.1 that's currently on it.
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Just picked one of these up for Mom and have rooted and flashed TWRP, but was wondering if anyone knows of a ROM or at least debloating scripts...?
Thanks!

Hey Coach,
I know this thread is quite dated but just hoping you might have succeeded in either creating or finding a custom ROM for this device? I'm still using mine but finding more and more apps no longer supported on 5.1.1.
Thanks!

EFIDroid for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4/Note Edge (Snapdragon Variants)

More details in the Verizon Note 4 forum here.
XDA:DevDB Information
EFIDroid, Kernel for the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Contributors
abraha2d, m11kkaa
Source Code: https://github.com/efidroid
Kernel Special Features: UEFI, MultiBoot
Version Information
Status: Beta
Current Beta Version: 0.1
Beta Release Date: 2017-03-18
Created 2017-03-20
Last Updated 2017-03-31

THIS IS INCREDIBLE!! Greatest thing since sliced bread where is the donation link this an amazing piece of development 2nd lvl bootloader f yaaaa!!

vegoja said:
THIS IS INCREDIBLE!! Greatest thing since sliced bread where is the donation link this an amazing piece of development 2nd lvl bootloader f yaaaa!!
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Believe me, I didn't do much work. You can donate to @m11kkaa, though. He's the developer of EFIDroid (if you didn't already know that...). I believe he has a donation link in his profile...
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 using XDA Labs

This is great but is there a way to uninstall it (if necessary) and get back to the primary ROM (stock or Lineage OS) without losing data?

tried to do a bit of light research and couldn't find what's different between this and other preexisting multiboot solutions. I've been using Dual Boot Patcher for sometime without issues. Is this somehow better? and if so, how?

Mtotallywired said:
tried to do a bit of light research and couldn't find what's different between this and other preexisting multiboot solutions. I've been using Dual Boot Patcher for sometime without issues. Is this somehow better? and if so, how?
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EFIDroid is what you would call a "second-stage bootloader". The main advantage over Dual Boot Patcher (at least for me) is that you no longer have to patch zip files before installing. Also, EFIDroid is more than just a multi-boot solution. Quoting @m11kkaa:
efidroid tries to focus on simplicity, and doesn't require any kernel modifications etc.
in general: well having such a powerful bootloader in your boot stage gives you lots of possibilities, like multiboot, replacements/additions for kernels/ramdisk/cmdline.
This project has a lot more potential than what's currently implemented. i.e. you can give samsung devices fastboot and sony devices a standalone recovery. Also you can natively boot GNU GRUB if you're into booting linux kernel's the desktop way.
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The two solutions are similar enough that you can migrate your setup from Dual Boot Patcher to EFIDroid without losing any data. I'll try to post a guide later this week.

I was I under the impression dual boot required multiple ROMs running the same kernel... If that is the case a huge advantage efi has is each ROM having their own boot img. I'm currently running 3 ROMs a lollipop a marshmallow and of course a nougat. I really just wanted to see all 3 latest android os running flawlessly on 1 device. And I did just that hats off to the developer for this.

baharvey7817 said:
This is great but is there a way to uninstall it (if necessary) and get back to the primary ROM (stock or Lineage OS) without losing data?
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There's an uninstall button in the app. Or, you could just flash the original boot.img via TWRP (basically what the uninstall button does).

I'm a noob...What is this? Where do I need to go to learn about why I would want this...Please explain lol

mlock420 said:
I'm a noob...What is this? Where do I need to go to learn about why I would want this...Please explain lol
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you can look at their website, and then decide if you want this level of control over your phone.
http://efidroid.org/

Thanks for bringing us this tool. One thing I can't figure out...how do we Odin a different bootloader? I have DOK2 loaded now, and want to put Dr. Ketan's on the phone. The sub instructions say to Odin the BL and CP, as the ROM is generally generic. There us also a datafix and an essential fix that needs to be applied. Doing all of that is easy, but how do I keep two separate bootloaders (LP and MM) totally separate? If I flash a LP over a MM, my camera breaks, and if I flash a MM over LP, WiFi breaks. And I'm not talking about dirty flashes, a full system, data, and cache wipe 3x. Only Odin back to the base ROM keeps my phone happy.

1freedude said:
Thanks for bringing us this tool. One thing I can't figure out...how do we Odin a different bootloader? I have DOK2 loaded now, and want to put Dr. Ketan's on the phone. The sub instructions say to Odin the BL and CP, as the ROM is generally generic. There us also a datafix and an essential fix that needs to be applied. Doing all of that is easy, but how do I keep two separate bootloaders (LP and MM) totally separate? If I flash a LP over a MM, my camera breaks, and if I flash a MM over LP, WiFi breaks. And I'm not talking about dirty flashes, a full system, data, and cache wipe 3x. Only Odin back to the base ROM keeps my phone happy.
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There's no way to have two different bootloaders. EFIDroid comes between the bootloader and the boot.img, so it has no control over the bootloader.
EDIT: EFIDroid may be able to emulate the behavior of another bootloader... you would have to ask @m11kkaa for details...

Where can I download this for T-mobile ??
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CousinMikeyP said:
Where can I download this for T-mobile ??
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Here is the LINK. You can see more info HERE

I downloaded and started up the EFIdroid unofficial apk but got the following message:
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Error
Can't load device info. Please check your connection.
/data/user/0/org.efidroid.efidroidmanager.debug/files/devices.json (No such file or directory)
override ota server try again
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Could you please explain what's going on? Seems that this version is different from the one i downloaded in March. Could it be that it's not getting root access? What can I do to get around this error?

baharvey7817 said:
I downloaded and started up the EFIdroid unofficial apk but got the following message:
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Error
Can't load device info. Please check your connection.
/data/user/0/org.efidroid.efidroidmanager.debug/files/devices.json (No such file or directory)
override ota server try again
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Could you please explain what's going on? Seems that this version is different from the one i downloaded in March. Could it be that it's not getting root access? What can I do to get around this error?
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I will have to look into it... The EFIDroid app error messages are not exactly the most helpful kind. (Good thing the app is being phased out soon). That particular error message could mean many things, but most likely it's a connection issue. We will continue this in Slack.

Will this work on tw 7.0 if i was porting a rom. Also why wont aosp kernel work on tw.. i always thought tw was aosp with skin..

Go to back to the link posted above where you got the unofficial apk and go to post #83. The OP posted an apk there that works fine on our phone.
baharvey7817 said:
I downloaded and started up the EFIdroid unofficial apk but got the following message:
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Error
Can't load device info. Please check your connection.
/data/user/0/org.efidroid.efidroidmanager.debug/files/devices.json (No such file or directory)
override ota server try again
===============================================
Could you please explain what's going on? Seems that this version is different from the one i downloaded in March. Could it be that it's not getting root access? What can I do to get around this error?
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RaySCLA said:
Go to back to the link posted above where you got the unofficial apk and go to post #83. The OP posted an apk there that works fine on our phone.
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Tried what you suggested but it didn't work either. So, I chose the 'nuclear option': I wiped the phone completely then reinstalled the stock Marshmallow ROM. using Odin. After that i installed TWRP v3.0.2 (trltetmo) and Supersu v2.79 as well as Busybox v1.26. Only then was I able to install EFIDroid successfully. Now, I'm able to boot the stock rom as well as Resurrection Remix.
It seems that if your going to install EFIDroid you must have the phone rooted using SuperSU. Using Magisk to root your phone instead of SuperSu won't work (at least it didn't work in my case).

lowkeyst4tus said:
Will this work on tw 7.0 if i was porting a rom. Also why wont aosp kernel work on tw.. i always thought tw was aosp with skin..
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This should work anywhere, regardless of ROM... But btw, it's a stretch to say TW is just a skin on top of AOSP. In fact, TW is probably the farthest you can get from AOSP... There's a lot of significant differences that make AOSP kernels incompatible with TW ROMs...

What happens after I root and try to upgrade

Hello Everyone. I'm new to this forum, so please be kind. I have searched extensively for the answer to my question.
So, I spent a whole day upgrading and rooting my SM-G900V Galaxy S5. Lots of dead ends on this, but I got it! I did this because I needed more room on my internal memory. I was almost out, so I used Titanium Backup and uninstalled all the bloat apps.
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
I used XDA forums pretty extensively for information for getting as far as I have. Many, many thanks.
Dave

DaveInTrinity said:
Hello Everyone. I'm new to this forum, so please be kind. I have searched extensively for the answer to my question.
So, I spent a whole day upgrading and rooting my SM-G900V Galaxy S5. Lots of dead ends on this, but I got it! I did this because I needed more room on my internal memory. I was almost out, so I used Titanium Backup and uninstalled all the bloat apps.
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
I used XDA forums pretty extensively for information for getting as far as I have. Many, many thanks.
Dave
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If your looking to upgrade to MM 6.0. You need to download the latest MM stock image and Odin back to full unrooted stock. Then re-root, install your custom recovery and flash what ever rom you want.. Yes if you flash back to stock MM in order to upgrade, then naturally all the bloat will come back.. But will not be there once you re-root and flash another rom.

DaveInTrinity said:
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
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1. Depends on the ROM. BTW, "free user space" does not depend on the ROM. Almost does not.
2. Yes. You will have to reroot it, if possible.
There is a good G900V section on the forum and you may like to read about CID, locked bootloader and MM rooting there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848

bbsc said:
1. Depends on the ROM. BTW, "free user space" does not depend on the ROM. Almost does not.
2. Yes. You will have to reroot it, if possible.
There is a good G900V section on the forum and you may like to read about CID, locked bootloader and MM rooting there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848
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Thank you for the reply, information, and link. I will go through it. I hadn't been able to find a MM rooting system that worked which is why I reverted to Lollipop. I actually had a lot of trouble even rooting 5.0 as nothing worked until I came upon the Blackcat scripts. That worked great.
Dave

DaveInTrinity said:
I hadn't been able to find a MM rooting system that worked which is why I reverted to Lollipop. I actually had a lot of trouble even rooting 5.0 as nothing worked until I came upon the Blackcat scripts. That worked great.
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You're welcome.
Look, LP and below does not require unlocked bootloader to be rooted. MM and abode does. That's why the possibility of rooting MM on your phone depends on it's hardware (CID).
Blackcat's scripts are great, but the modern method is to flash a "COMBINATION" ROM which can be rooted easily, to root it, to install SafeStrap Recovery and then to flash your favorite ROM (system partition) and firmware (bootloader, kernel, modem, recovery). The last action may contain bootloader unlocking process if the hardware is compatible.