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I have a rooted KF in stock rom but I just wanted to know if I install a custom rom my KF will still be registered to amazon as a fire or just as another adroid device? and will the apps in the Amazon appstore that say XX (Kindle Fire edition) still work or not?
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J_RosarioX2 said:
I have a rooted KF in stock rom but I just wanted to know if I install a custom rom my KF will still be registered to amazon as a fire or just as another adroid device? and will the apps in the Amazon appstore that say XX (Kindle Fire edition) still work or not?
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Kinda depends on what your really looking for if you just want a fresh look then I would recommend side loading a launcher like go launcher or adw that way you can still make full use of the amazon market and with voodoo root keeper amazon video works fine if you rom your kindle then you can just use the Google android market with launcher you can have both what I do to make use of both is keep a backup of my rooted stock 6.2.1 and flip back and forth via twrp to stock or my favorite rom of the moment by just restoring a backup . Always make a fresh backup so you don't loose changes of apps that occur with one or the other sounds like a hassle but works for me. You may find once you rom your kindle you rarely go back to stock. Make sure you do full wipes when swapping and everything will run smooth. I'm sure that others have ways they work around being able to make full use of both the amazon market and the Google android market but I'm happy with my method and the diversity I get from trying lots of different roms

Considering a "Root Kitty" for a successful working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 !

Considering a "Root Kitty" for a successful working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 !
I'm wondering if others would ante up to make establish a "Root Kitty", to be paid to someone or some group, who successfully get a working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 and compatible with lower versions, as well?
If this seems a reasonable idea, what do you think would be a reasonable 'amount'?
Anyone else willing to ante up?
Let's take a current head count of interest.
I'd hope this is within forum protocol.

JeffDC said:
I'm wondering if others would ante up to make establish a "Root Kitty", to be paid to someone or some group, who successfully get a working root for Fire TV 5.2.4 and compatible with lower versions, as well?
If this seems a reasonable idea, what do you think would be a reasonable 'amount'?
Anyone else willing to ante up?
Let's take a current head count of interest.
I'd hope this is within forum protocol.
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Are you referring to the Fire TV 1? Because there already is a rooted 5.2.4 rom for the Fire TV 2 thanks to rbox. Perhaps I just didn't understand the question.

dk1keith said:
Are you referring to the Fire TV 1? Because there already is a rooted 5.2.4 rom for the Fire TV 2 thanks to rbox. Perhaps I just didn't understand the question.
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Fire TV 2. For those already rooted, they can install a rooted 5.2.4. I'm understanding that if you are not rooted, you can not.
Am I correct?

JeffDC said:
Fire TV 2. For those already rooted, they can install a rooted 5.2.4. I'm understanding that if you are not rooted, you can not.
Am I correct?
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yes I believe you are. I don't think there is root for 5.2.4 unless you're already on a rooted lower version.

dk1keith said:
yes I believe you are. I don't think there is root for 5.2.4 unless you're already on a rooted lower version.
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Yes. So I'm wondering if other here are interested in getting a 'kitty' going.
Based upon the time of the initial post and no meaningful, affirmative responses, I'd guess not.

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Yes. So I'm wondering if other here are interested in getting a 'kitty' going.
Based upon the time of the initial post and no meaningful, affirmative responses, I'd guess not.
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I am also on same page , I don't have rooted device with lower versions, Now i want to root the amazon fire tv 2 with Fire Os 5.2.4 version.
Is it possible to downgrade the 5.2.4 to lower versions with out rooting the device ?

sr4shantan said:
I am also on same page , I don't have rooted device with lower versions, Now i want to root the amazon fire tv 2 with Fire Os 5.2.4 version.
Is it possible to downgrade the 5.2.4 to lower versions with out rooting the device ?
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Yeah it's really not possible to downgrade official firmware, and not possible to root a newer firmware according to root expert rbox and all the questions asked about it on aftvnews.
Your best bet is to either wait to get a new Firetv3 in Oct/Nov/or 2018, block updates on it, and see if it can be rooted in first half of its year, or live without root by enjoying sideloaded apps/games, and install other launchers like firstarter v3.2.3 or nova launcher to view your apps in a different way (But new Firetv firmware is improved at letting you see all your apps on screen so other launchers may be unnecessary.). Or try other competitive players like Shield TV but not sure how to root that.
I know without root you miss out on certain specific advantages you desire.

atoneapone said:
Yeah it's really not possible to downgrade official firmware, and not possible to root a newer firmware according to root expert rbox and all the questions asked about it on aftvnews.
Your best bet is to either wait to get a new Firetv3 in Oct/Nov/or 2018, block updates on it, and see if it can be rooted in first half of its year, or live without root by enjoying sideloaded apps/games, and install other launchers like firstarter v3.2.3 or nova launcher to view your apps in a different way (But new Firetv firmware is improved at letting you see all your apps on screen so other launchers may be unnecessary.). Or try other competitive players like Shield TV but not sure how to root that.
I know without root you miss out on certain specific advantages you desire.
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Thnak you very much for your prompt reply. So it is clear that we can not root 5.2.4 version Amazon Fire Tv2.

I'd donate $50 towards a $1K plus kitty.

KIndle Fire HD8 6th Gen ROM request

Good morning, ive just managed to root my Kindle Fire HD 8 6th generation tablet thanks to you guys. Its the first time ive done anything like this on Android and it was interesting learning how to sideload .adb and .bin files so thanks for that.
The whole reason ive done this is because I cant stand the Fire OS. Its ugly and annoying and I like my systems as clean as possible.
So I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction of a ROM that will work on my system and is as clean as possible. Preferably just Android with Google play store installed. If not just Android that I can side load the play store onto.
As I said its the first time ive dealt with Android so I don't know if im asking the wrong questions, saying things that don't make much sense or am asking for too much.
Any information you have will be appreciated though.
Thanks,
T

Or just any decent Android ROM at all that will work with this model. Ive downgraded to Fire OS 5.3.1.1, rooted it using Kingoroot and tried installing the Nexus ROM from the below thread using FlashFire v0.55.1. My device hung at the 'fire' splash screen and I had to restart it. Luckily it is not bricked but it didn't apply the ROM either
im considering downgrading to 5.1.1 and giving it another go
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-fire-nexus-rom-lmy49f-t3300714
T

Did it work? did you try in the end? I am considering doing the same and I will love to have some feedback. Thanks!
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Or just any decent Android ROM at all that will work with this model. Ive downgraded to Fire OS 5.3.1.1, rooted it using Kingoroot and tried installing the Nexus ROM from the below thread using FlashFire v0.55.1. My device hung at the 'fire' splash screen and I had to restart it. Luckily it is not bricked but it didn't apply the ROM either
im considering downgrading to 5.1.1 and giving it another go
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-fire-nexus-rom-lmy49f-t3300714
T
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Hi, no I just left it rooted and side loaded the apps I wanted. How did you get on? Did you go for the flash?
T

Newer Android version for Fire HD

Are there any plans from Amazon or from an XDA developer to develop a newer OS running the latest (or at least not the 3 year old version the Amazon insist on running)?
thanks in advanced.

Ice_machinE said:
Are there any plans from Amazon or from an XDA developer to develop a newer OS running the latest (or at least not the 3 year old version the Amazon insist on running)?
thanks in advanced.
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I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.

Thanks, that sucks

Was checking in also because of prime day! Any recommended android tablets that are not as restricted? Stock android/rootable is pretty much my only need.

jmblock2 said:
Was checking in also because of prime day! Any recommended android tablets that are not as restricted? Stock android/rootable is pretty much my only need.
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The problem is any "decent" android tablets are overpriced and used units from 2-3 years ago tech wise. All my research before I got my fire hd 10 led me to the following conclusions:
The tablet market is pretty much dead. It is impossible to find a decent tablet now a days unless you
A) buy an older overpriced used one
B) buy apple (so HUGELY overpriced)
C) Make due with an hd 10 that is rooted and running google playstore
Wanna guess which choice I picked since I am in the fire hd forums?

adm1jtg said:
I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.
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Newer end devices, most probably the newer HD 8 and HD 10 will get 6.0 or 7.0 (whichever one Amazon confirmed a year or so ago, newer devices will get sometime whenever). Don't expect anything else, tablet wise, to get anything newer than 5.1.
The base OS is Android and it is customized or butchered as I like to call it. They can't block the install of apks without blocking their own apps. Even if they did block sideloading (i don't think you can), it won't stop you from using Silk to download one off apk mirror and installing it through the documents UI. I'm sure they are well aware people but these to use Google apps more than Amazon apps. For them its a silent selling point because you already bought it. Most buyers are already Amazon members and customers. Remember they lose nothing by allowing us to some of the things we can do, even without root. You'll be back to buy something from them again. They pretty much make pure profit off these things.

adm1jtg said:
I have answered this exact question before. This is my opinon:
NO
Amazon has no incentive at all to change the base OS, as fireos for them is simply an interface to their tablets to sell more product and services. It would cost them money to update fireos to a newer version and yet would not benefit them in selling more of the products and services. So there is no incentive for amazon to change anything on these tablets.
As far as developers, these tablets all have locked bootloaders, this means there is no way to load a custom recovery like twrp at all. Without a custom recovery it would be extremely difficult to have any kind of custom rom for this device at all.... so again...
NO
You have to remember for amazon this is not a tablet they are selling its a highly customized sales device and interface. We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root. Not only wont you get a newer OS more then likely but I am sure amazon will continue to lock down these devices so that you will be forced to stay in the amazon eco-system.
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I just got an HD10 today and would like to root it. I see your line that said: "We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root." What procedure will do this? Got a link for me? Thanks.

nypaulie said:
I just got an HD10 today and would like to root it. I see your line that said: "We are really EXTREMELY lucky to be able to load google playstore and in the case of the hd10 to have root." What procedure will do this? Got a link for me? Thanks.
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Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire

adm1jtg said:
Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire
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Thanks for responding! May I ask for more detail? Offline rooting? Why upgrade 5600 to 5610? (mine is 5620 BTW) Flashfire? I guess I could Google all this, but since you've done the rooting successfully I am asking you. I have rooted many devices before so I am willing to try but I need more specific instructions. Thanks again.
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Its been a while (my tablet came with 5600) but I used the offline root method to get root then loaded up the 5610 image with xposed and root via flashfire
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I think I found it. Let me know if this is the site with the correct method:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860
Thanks.
Paul

nypaulie said:
Thanks for responding! May I ask for more detail? Offline rooting? Why upgrade 5600 to 5610? (mine is 5620 BTW) Flashfire? I guess I could Google all this, but since you've done the rooting successfully I am asking you. I have rooted many devices before so I am willing to try but I need more specific instructions. Thanks again.
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I think I found it. Let me know if this is the site with the correct method:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860
Thanks.
Paul
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Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/tips-tricks-root-t3310569 Have this bookmarked from when I got my tablet, although that's applicable for 5.6.0 and 5.6.1 (iirc). I know they just started pushing out a new FW so make sure you do the offline root method. Hopefully they'll slip up on one of these updates and leave a hole for someone to pop in a bootloader, although I'm not holding my breath.

adm1jtg said:
Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.
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Good. I have my work cut out for me once I get some free time. Also, someone else responded to my post with the following which contained a link to the same thread that you used - note that this was the 55th posting in that thread. So this gives me some hope that my OS version (5.6.2.0) may be rootable.
"15th July 2018, 03:45 AM |#55
Just to let everyone know, this method works on FireOS 5.6.2.0, build date: July 6th, 2018, 2:06PM."

adm1jtg said:
Yes thats the root method I used but as I said I was on 5600 when I rooted. 5620 is extremely new and I have very little info on it personally though have seen a few posts of people having issues with rooting and also with using nova launcher and widgets.
ONE THING I AM SURE OF NEVER EVER EVER EVER try and downgrade to an older version as if you do it will likely perma brick. As far as the rest if/when you get it rooted I loaded the image from retyre (search for link). This image us loaded via a product called flashfire. I loaded the image that way for 2 reasons:
1) My bootloader is still at 5600 level as flashfire does NOT change the bootloader only boot and system
2) The image was pre-rooted, has xposed built in and got me to the the latest version (5610) WITHOUT having to upgrade my bootloader.
A side benefit of the image I used was it was automatically setup to block all ota updates from amazon. Why, cause once again if the bootloader is updated to 5610 or newer you can not downgrade without perma brick. Thus I wanted to make sure my bootloader NEVER got updated.
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Success! Just finished the job. BUT, once I installed SuperSU I lost root! Deleted SuperSU, redid the rooting thing and I'm back in biz. I use Root Explorer Pro so do I really need SuperSU? Anyway, thanks a million.

My First Fire HD 10 (11th Gen) Can It Be Rooted?

Just bought this yesterday and updated it to the latest firmware. I checked around here and couldn't find much on the newer version of this tablet. I see there are custom roms for Fire tablets. I've used the Fire Toolbox already but I would love to root my device and install both twrp and a custom rom on it, is this possible on this table running the latest firmware?
Can any one help point me in the right direction please? Thanks for the help and time.

No current roms, but you can do a lot fir Fire Toolkit to make it as straight Android as possible. Currently though, you're screwed if you let it update to the newest Fire OS version, as you can no longer disable OTA updates and you can't install a custom launcher. If I were you, I'd return it and get a new one. Don't connect it to wifi, and skip initial setup. Then immediately disable updates with Fire Toolkit and install Nova Launcher or another 3rd party launcher.
I was recently in the same boat. Accidentally let it my new HD10 update since it automatically connected to my home wifi (damn Amazon saving my wifi passwords even though I tell them no on every device!). I returned it and got a new one. Made sure to turn off my home wifi before booting up the tablet. At that point, click any wifi network, then cancel when it asks for a password. You can then skip setup and begin setting it up with Fire Toolkit. I firstly disable lock screen ads (which also turns off updates), then register the device to my Amazon account, then complete the other tasks in Toolkit.

Does anybody know if there is work being done on rooting the current Fire HD 10 Plus?
I am thinking about buying one for travelling and Home Automation, but if it cannot be rooted it will probably not be worth buying.

officiallyme said:
Does anybody know if there is work being done on rooting the current Fire HD 10 Plus?
I am thinking about buying one for travelling and Home Automation, but if it cannot be rooted it will probably not be worth buying.
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No, you cannot root it due to Fire OS 7.3.

officiallyme said:
Does anybody know if there is work being done on rooting the current Fire HD 10 Plus?
I am thinking about buying one for travelling and Home Automation, but if it cannot be rooted it will probably not be worth buying.
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Eventually it will be however for the moment, using Firetool box is the next best thing and so easy to get up and running that IMO beats rooting for how easy it is to use.

How about hard resetting your tablet to its default OS version, install a non-root firewall, block OTA updates and related processes then customize with fire toolbox to have an almost true android experience.. anybody know which files to block? And would this actually worK?

Ssom69 said:
How about hard resetting your tablet to its default OS version, install a non-root firewall, block OTA updates and related processes then customize with fire toolbox to have an almost true android experience.. anybody know which files to block? And would this actually worK?
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How would you go about hard-ressetting it?

I have several Amazon Fire HD 8s and HD 10's that are exhibiting the issue of not being able to display some webpages due to the out of date Android System Webview. I tried installing the latest version which is 95 but the version that Fully Kiosk reports is 59 (which is out of date). My fire OS is verion 5. How can I overcome this issue?
Thanks in advance for the help.

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How would you go about hard-ressetting it?
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I have successfully blocked fire hd 11th gen using the latest version of NetGuard no root. It doesnt update at all. Can anyone tell how to do a true hard reset to its default OS, 7.2 i think...

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How would you go about hard-ressetting it?
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Ssom69 said:
How about hard resetting your tablet to its default OS version, install a non-root firewall, block OTA updates and related processes then customize with fire toolbox to have an almost true android experience.. anybody know which files to block? And would this actually worK?
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Noroot firewall from playstore will block all amazon communication including OTA updates. Just allow your browser through the firewall and block the rest except perhaps google play and you will have no further problem.

Just got a fire hd10 and it came with 7.3.something, and quickly did a factory reset so that it doesn't do the updates.
Can I install custom rom on this or not?

sd_dracula said:
Just got a fire hd10 and it came with 7.3.something, and quickly did a factory reset so that it doesn't do the updates.
Can I install custom rom on this or not?
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no

Damn, bought a dud.
Anyone working on it or one of those things that won't be possible?

How can I block updates on it at least?

sd_dracula said:
How can I block updates on it at least?
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according to comments earlier in this thread, install noroot firewall from Playstore.