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I rooted to FR008 recently and I've noticed that a lot of apps are starting automatically. Far more than the stock ROM. I use atk to kill then but they restart within moments.
yeah, I might be a little ocd about having things running, but the bigger problem is that a bunch of them start up when I turn on mobile data or wifi. everything competes for bandwidth at once
And so it slows down the app I'm trying to use.
Any recommendations?
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when you say they start up, what exactly do you mean? what apps are starting? do they just open and run in the background, or are they forcibly starting and taking over your screen? as for having certain programs start up when turning on some form of data, i've never experienced that particular issue.
don't blindly kill every task thats running, as the android os manages RAM and running apps differently than a windows pc.
i would highly recommend going to this thread and reading the posted links about task managers.
using a task killer on froyo is useless as the apps are restarted rather than killed
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mattbollenbach said:
when you say they start up, what exactly do you mean?
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They start and run in the background. On most, I don't notice except for when I go to my task killer. Others show up with an icon in the task bar when data is turned on (see below)
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what apps are starting?
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On the stock ROM, Google Maps and Internet started up. After FR008, those two plus Stocks, Gmail, EasyTether, Google Finance, Astrid Tasks
mattbollenbach said:
do they just open and run in the background, or are they forcibly starting and taking over your screen?
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In the background.
mattbollenbach said:
as for having certain programs start up when turning on some form of data, i've never experienced that particular issue.
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Yep. When wifi or 3G data connects it goes crazy. I get a sync icon in the task bar (don't know if it's Google finance or Gmail) and most of the above-mentioned apps plus, Yahoo mail (which I do use) all start up and start trying to grab data.
mattbollenbach said:
don't blindly kill every task thats running, as the android os manages RAM and running apps differently than a windows pc.
i would highly recommend going to this thread and reading the posted links about task managers.
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I will read up on this. Thanks!
Task killers are bad mmkay
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Noz85 said:
Task killers are bad mmkay
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+1 - Get rid of any automatic task killer apps.
as far as apps opening and running in the background, as i mentioned, its normal. android handles all of its running processes much differently than a normal computer os. having a lot of programs running isn't necessarily a bad thing, as you'll find through reading the linked post.
with apps syncing as soon as you turn data/wifi on, that also is normal. they don't bother trying when data is shut off, but once theres an available connection, they are going to try and grab the most current data so as to be accurate.
do you use most/any of the apps that are running? if not, many apps that can't be removed normally can be removed via this method.
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with apps syncing as soon as you turn data/wifi on, that also is normal. they don't bother trying when data is shut off, but once theres an available connection, they are going to try and grab the most current data so as to be accurate.
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Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
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do you use most/any of the apps that are running? if not, many apps that can't be removed normally can be removed via this method.
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I'll get rid of the ones I don't use, but I do use some of them so I don't want to wipe them all out. That's why it would be nice to be able to configure an Autostart app as noted above..
ShinerDraft said:
Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
I'll get rid of the ones I don't use, but I do use some of them so I don't want to wipe them all out. That's why it would be nice to be able to configure an Autostart app as noted above..
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Its mostly you reception then the apps. How many task killers do you have running?
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ShinerDraft said:
Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
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you could turn off background data, or at least check your sync options and make sure programs you don't want trying to auto-sync are un-checked. that way, the only program that would use your data connection would be the one you are using at that moment.
Turn off auto-sync if you don't want them to do that. As previously mentioned, as soon as a data connection is available the apps that are set to auto-sync are going to go out and get the most recent data. Turning that off will just mean you have to sync whatever it is manually. But, it will stop the **** from "starting" automatically, which btw, is normal. Just because they are in the background and "running" (<- according to your task killer) doesn't mean they are "running" in the true sense of the word. It also doesn't mean that they are ALL trying to grab data and suck up bandwidth. Maps shouldn't be starting automatically, gmail is normal because you probably have autosync enabled for it. Task killers are detrimental, would advise you stop using them. Also, I used to be OCD like that as well because of how I am on a computer.
The OCD is hard to get over, but I've stopped using the task killer.
I already had AutoSync disabled, but background data was on.
I am going to try something for a few days..
I have JuiceDefender installed, and one of its' features is to turn data on for 2 minutes, twice per hour. My thinking is that letting those apps start automatically and grab what they need on their own will prevent them from jumping on my bandwidth when I manually turn data on for a one particular need.
The reason I didn't do this before is because I get a pretty large quantity of email on my Yahoo account, and don't want notifications bugging me all the time. I just turned off notifications in Ymail (duh!) and will check it when I want. Presumably, with the 2 minute/30 minute data schedule, I won't even have to turn data on to see my recent emails.
I just like to compile a list of apps to stay away to preserve battery life by staying away apps that prevent your phone from going into sleep.
On the related subject, does the following apps and tools prevent phone from going to sleep. Can anyone verify?
Gmail auto-sync
Android Assistant with auto boost
Current widget
Spare Parts
Thanks
franklin20uk said:
I just like to compile a list of apps to stay away to preserve battery life by staying away apps that prevent your phone from going into sleep.
On the related subject, does the following apps and tools prevent phone from going to sleep. Can anyone verify?
Gmail auto-sync
Android Assistant with auto boost
Current widget
Spare Parts
Thanks
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Current widget is fine (even reporting every minute, drain is negligible), as is g-mail auto-sync as long as the interval is reasonable say hourly or longer, whats causing issues with spare-parts?
how do you reduce the intervals of auto-sync, because I couldn't find this option on my dhd.
For spare parts, I was just asking.
I heard the stock sms messaging app drains a lot of battery too, so I am switching to Go sms and see if it helps.
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how do you reduce the intervals of auto-sync, because I couldn't find this option on my dhd.
For spare parts, I was just asking.
I heard the stock sms messaging app drains a lot of battery too, so I am switching to Go sms and see if it helps.
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I'd say that the sms app draining is just another rumor. And for the first post none of the listed drain much. My settings everything on (3g) and not current widget but battery monitor widget and the average drain when idle around 3-5 mA with occasional peaks, due to data transfer while syncing. Also whatsapp on and various other background apps. Oh and CM7 latest build.
i really hate gmail
it gives huge spikes..
Where I check my Partial Wage Usage with SpareParts
I am getting these items
Dialler (Most usage)
UID 10030
Android System
Maps
GO SMS
Messaging
Calender Storage.
How can I disable Maps and the stock Messaging app? I don't why they are there since I have location turn off, gps turn off. And I turn off auto-retrieve and notification for my default messaging app.
What exactly is Dialler? what does it do?
Can anyone help. My phone is burning insane amount of battery during stand-by.
Spare parts? I think it works ondemand basis. I think YouTube is another app preventing sleep.
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Current widget is fine (even reporting every minute, drain is negligible), as is g-mail auto-sync as long as the interval is reasonable say hourly or longer, whats causing issues with spare-parts?
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How do I manually set the intervals of gmail sync? I can't find it.
Many thanks
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How do I manually set the intervals of gmail sync? I can't find it.
Many thanks
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I haven't found any way to do it, people say you can change it when you factory reset, but otherwise, you can't
Maybe Gmail uses push, so updated on demand... (just guessing)
yes, auto-sync practically is push mail, but there isn't an option you can change it to fetch intervals instead?
I can use the stock email app, but its so crap!
Anyone know any decent email client solution for android?
franklin20uk said:
Where I check my Partial Wage Usage with SpareParts
I am getting these items
Dialler (Most usage)
UID 10030
Android System
Maps
GO SMS
Messaging
Calender Storage.
How can I disable Maps and the stock Messaging app? I don't why they are there since I have location turn off, gps turn off. And I turn off auto-retrieve and notification for my default messaging app.
What exactly is Dialler? what does it do?
Can anyone help. My phone is burning insane amount of battery during stand-by.
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same here, maps is a real pain in the arse. It really does drain my battery.
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same here, maps is a real pain in the arse. It really does drain my battery.
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If there's some strange drain by maps have you tried manually closing it from the settings-applications while you don't actually use it? That should do it.
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
Vispe85 said:
If there's some strange drain by maps have you tried manually closing it from the settings-applications while you don't actually use it? That should do it.
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franklin20uk said:
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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+1 mate, I haven't used it in the first place and I tried force closing it and it still comes back.
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thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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Yep, that's the problem with closing apps with task killers etc, if android thinks it should be running it will restart it
Titanium Backup has been preventing sleep on my phone recently for some reason.
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Yep, that's the problem with closing apps with task killers etc, if android thinks it should be running it will restart it
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I'm not using task killers, but still maps is there preventing my phone from sleeping for like 1-2 hours my phone is running 48% while in reality I'm not touching it nor even waking it from sleep. It just ticks me off.
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thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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Seriously if you use the "killed selected" option to terminate these processes it will just drain more battery. These processes will get restarted as soon as they are killed. That's the android way. I am already thinking dumping this function in my app - Android Assistant. The reason I let it stay is there are still some android 2.1 users and they need this feature.
If you are thinking about saving battery, root your phone and uninstall all unneccessary battery-draining apps
or use the normal way to save battery: turn off gps, bluetooth, wifi, lower screen brightness etc.(and these are also available in Android Assistant )
I un-installed maps and im good to go since i use Co-pilot
No problems with titanium backup pro
Is there a way I can get the verizion data widget in any custom roms? It's the only reason why I wont flash any, I need the widget.
You can download the My Verizon app from Google Play, but it may not work on non stock based ROMs like Cyanogenmod.
Here is a 3rd party app that lets you login to your Verizon account and then has its own widgets that look the same as Verizons.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hoeksoft.minute.widget.verizon
if all you are looking for is something to tell u how much data u have used there are way better aps and they tell you in pretty much real time unlike the verizon app which u need to hit the refresh button
I can confirm that the My Verizon app works on Carbon
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Is there a way I can get the verizion data widget in any custom roms? It's the only reason why I wont flash any, I need the widget.
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It is a widget . Create one on Xperia launcher, for example, by a long press on any homepage to get to customize/widgets.
Once myverizon is installed.
PantherVT said:
I can confirm that the My Verizon app works on Carbon
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Will the Verizion data widget work?
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Will the Verizion data widget work? I
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works for me - but I think VZW doesn't allow it to automatically update (you have to keep pressing the refresh button) due to the change in pricing structure with the share everything plan (even if you don't have that plan).
what helps for me is getting the text/e-mail alerts when my data reaches a certain threshold (50%, 75%, 90%).
also, your phone can track that in the settings.
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works for me - but I think VZW doesn't allow it to automatically update (you have to keep pressing the refresh button) due to the change in pricing structure with the share everything plan (even if you don't have that plan).
what helps for me is getting the text/e-mail alerts when my data reaches a certain threshold (50%, 75%, 90%).
also, your phone can track that in the settings.
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I forgot about the data tracking in the settings! Thanks, I'll just set a limit where my data will turn off when I use a certain amount. Thanks for the help.
My Pushbullet and FB Messenger messages are severely delayed after I switched to the 8 Pro. I've made sure to disable RAM boost, also disabling any battery optimizations for said apps. Yet, most of the time, I don't receive any messages until I manually open the app in question. Not sure what else I should change or if this is a system issue. I never had these issues on my OP6 and used the same settings there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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My Pushbullet and FB Messenger messages are severely delayed after I switched to the 8 Pro. I've made sure to disable RAM boost, also disabling any battery optimizations for said apps. Yet, most of the time, I don't receive any messages until I manually open the app in question. Not sure what else I should change or if this is a system issue. I never had these issues on my OP6 and used the same settings there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Did you also disable Adaptive Battery and Sleep standby optimization under Advanced optimization for Battery?
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Did you also disable Adaptive Battery and Sleep standby optimization under Advanced optimization for Battery?
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Yes, I've done that too. So strange that it didn't help. And seeing that it affects Pushbullet, Messengern and Whatsapp tells me it's not specifically app related.
I too have noticed issues with this, sometimes they come through exactly at the right time and other times I have to wake the screen before they then proceed to come through. It seems the battery optimisation settings are quite harsh on wake-locks out the box.
Remove each app from optimization. You should be able to find the app, and it's the settings app and then turn it off per app.
OnePlus really wind me up with their battery optimisations. It kills off the user experience in the name of good battery!
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OnePlus really wind me up with their battery optimisations. It kills off the user experience in the name of good battery!
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there are some brand that do it worst like Huawei (when it has google) and xiaomi, this 2 brand kill everything in background
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Remove each app from optimization. You should be able to find the app, and it's the settings app and then turn it off per app.
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As I said in my original post, I've disabled the battery optimizations for the affected apps, but to no avail.
I may have found the cause and the solution to this, but it's still too early to tell. Most of my apps are restored using TiBu, coming from my previous OP6. I've uninstalled and reinstalled some of the problematic apps clean, not restoring app data with TiBu, but rather from the Play Store. I'm amazed that the app data is automatically restored upon app installation, given that the app itself allows it.
This seems to have done the trick, Pushbullet, Messenger and others seem to be giving me notifications instantly. I did have to disable battery optimization on those apps once more. I'll report back later.
Maybe a dalvik-cache and cache wipe would suffice, I have no idea.
The push notifications are extremely late if the phone remains quite unused, I have set the best but I cannot solve the problem. I need to take gmail emails in real time and this is a serious problem for me, have you found any solutions?
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I use my share location sometimes on way home from work, but it doesn't work, as soon as I open the app again it starts to work again?
Seems the app has to be open and running and on to be working.
Not an issue on previous phones, is there a way to allow it to remain running? Seems silly to need to have it on?
Try to not optimize the battery usage on WhatsApp. That may solve the issue. I have experienced delay in notifications with WhatsApp, so I removed that optimization. Normally this solves the 90% of the issues with location, notifications or background processes
WhatsApp location permission setting change from only when app is running to always allow?
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WhatsApp location permission setting change from only when app is running to always allow?
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Take a look, there is no option.
WeedBilbao said:
Try to not optimize the battery usage on WhatsApp. That may solve the issue. I have experienced delay in notifications with WhatsApp, so I removed that optimization. Normally this solves the 90% of the issues with location, notifications or background processes
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That makes sense, cheers will give it a whirl.
Disabled it, let's see how it goes, there really is no option to leave it constantly on, how crap is that.
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Take a look, there is no option.
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Never noticed that wasn't an option for Whatsapp. Thats an option with most other apps, but found this
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...-all-the-time-location-permission-to-whatsapp
hjin said:
Never noticed that wasn't an option for Whatsapp. Thats an option with most other apps, but found this
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...-all-the-time-location-permission-to-whatsapp
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Nice find, glad to see it wasn't just me either