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Known Apps that prevents phone to sleep.

I just like to compile a list of apps to stay away to preserve battery life by staying away apps that prevent your phone from going into sleep.
On the related subject, does the following apps and tools prevent phone from going to sleep. Can anyone verify?
Gmail auto-sync
Android Assistant with auto boost
Current widget
Spare Parts
Thanks

franklin20uk said:
I just like to compile a list of apps to stay away to preserve battery life by staying away apps that prevent your phone from going into sleep.
On the related subject, does the following apps and tools prevent phone from going to sleep. Can anyone verify?
Gmail auto-sync
Android Assistant with auto boost
Current widget
Spare Parts
Thanks
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Current widget is fine (even reporting every minute, drain is negligible), as is g-mail auto-sync as long as the interval is reasonable say hourly or longer, whats causing issues with spare-parts?

how do you reduce the intervals of auto-sync, because I couldn't find this option on my dhd.
For spare parts, I was just asking.
I heard the stock sms messaging app drains a lot of battery too, so I am switching to Go sms and see if it helps.

franklin20uk said:
how do you reduce the intervals of auto-sync, because I couldn't find this option on my dhd.
For spare parts, I was just asking.
I heard the stock sms messaging app drains a lot of battery too, so I am switching to Go sms and see if it helps.
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I'd say that the sms app draining is just another rumor. And for the first post none of the listed drain much. My settings everything on (3g) and not current widget but battery monitor widget and the average drain when idle around 3-5 mA with occasional peaks, due to data transfer while syncing. Also whatsapp on and various other background apps. Oh and CM7 latest build.

i really hate gmail
it gives huge spikes..

Where I check my Partial Wage Usage with SpareParts
I am getting these items
Dialler (Most usage)
UID 10030
Android System
Maps
GO SMS
Messaging
Calender Storage.
How can I disable Maps and the stock Messaging app? I don't why they are there since I have location turn off, gps turn off. And I turn off auto-retrieve and notification for my default messaging app.
What exactly is Dialler? what does it do?
Can anyone help. My phone is burning insane amount of battery during stand-by.

Spare parts? I think it works ondemand basis. I think YouTube is another app preventing sleep.
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ghostofcain said:
Current widget is fine (even reporting every minute, drain is negligible), as is g-mail auto-sync as long as the interval is reasonable say hourly or longer, whats causing issues with spare-parts?
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How do I manually set the intervals of gmail sync? I can't find it.
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franklin20uk said:
How do I manually set the intervals of gmail sync? I can't find it.
Many thanks
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I haven't found any way to do it, people say you can change it when you factory reset, but otherwise, you can't

Maybe Gmail uses push, so updated on demand... (just guessing)

yes, auto-sync practically is push mail, but there isn't an option you can change it to fetch intervals instead?
I can use the stock email app, but its so crap!
Anyone know any decent email client solution for android?

franklin20uk said:
Where I check my Partial Wage Usage with SpareParts
I am getting these items
Dialler (Most usage)
UID 10030
Android System
Maps
GO SMS
Messaging
Calender Storage.
How can I disable Maps and the stock Messaging app? I don't why they are there since I have location turn off, gps turn off. And I turn off auto-retrieve and notification for my default messaging app.
What exactly is Dialler? what does it do?
Can anyone help. My phone is burning insane amount of battery during stand-by.
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same here, maps is a real pain in the arse. It really does drain my battery.

thenocturnalnurse said:
same here, maps is a real pain in the arse. It really does drain my battery.
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If there's some strange drain by maps have you tried manually closing it from the settings-applications while you don't actually use it? That should do it.

thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.

Vispe85 said:
If there's some strange drain by maps have you tried manually closing it from the settings-applications while you don't actually use it? That should do it.
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franklin20uk said:
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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+1 mate, I haven't used it in the first place and I tried force closing it and it still comes back.

franklin20uk said:
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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Yep, that's the problem with closing apps with task killers etc, if android thinks it should be running it will restart it

Titanium Backup has been preventing sleep on my phone recently for some reason.

ghostofcain said:
Yep, that's the problem with closing apps with task killers etc, if android thinks it should be running it will restart it
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I'm not using task killers, but still maps is there preventing my phone from sleeping for like 1-2 hours my phone is running 48% while in reality I'm not touching it nor even waking it from sleep. It just ticks me off.

franklin20uk said:
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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Seriously if you use the "killed selected" option to terminate these processes it will just drain more battery. These processes will get restarted as soon as they are killed. That's the android way. I am already thinking dumping this function in my app - Android Assistant. The reason I let it stay is there are still some android 2.1 users and they need this feature.
If you are thinking about saving battery, root your phone and uninstall all unneccessary battery-draining apps
or use the normal way to save battery: turn off gps, bluetooth, wifi, lower screen brightness etc.(and these are also available in Android Assistant )

I un-installed maps and im good to go since i use Co-pilot
No problems with titanium backup pro

HELP - Notifications not coming through when screen is off

Hi everyone,
I've been having a very strange problem for a couple of days now. Whenever my phone's screen is off and the phone has been idle for some time, I don't receive notifications anymore. Facebook notifications don't work at all, no matter whether the phone is active or not, but I also don't get FB Messenger and WhatsApp notifications. Sometimes they come through as soon as I turn on the screen, and sometimes I only see them when I open the respective app. I didn't mess with app permissions, and I also have set each app to "important" in the notification settings. It also doesn't seem to matter whether I'm on WiFi or on mobile data.
Gmail, SMS and calls don't seem to be a problem, although I sometimes have a feeling that emails come through to my phone with a considerable delay, as compared to my Gmail inbox on my computer.
The strange thing is, when I had the phone all new, everything worked as it should and I received ALL notifications from EVERY app IMMEDIATELY when they came in. This issue with notifications no longer coming through started occurring a couple days ago after I had first flashed the Boeffla Kernel (though I'm not sure if it has anything to do with that.) So I went back to the stock kernel, but the problem was still there. Then I re-flashed my original Nandroid backup from when I had first flashed TWRP, in order to set the system back to "stock", wiped data and cache, re-installed every app (the critical ones, i.e. Facebook, Messenger and WhatsApp, via Play Store, and the non-critical ones via Titanium Backup), and the problem is still there. I've done this three times now, to no avail.
My phone is rooted and I have Xposed installed, I'm using SuperSU and a number of root apps such as 3c Toolbox, Le DPI Changer and Font Installer. 3c Toolbox is set to clear caches on every reboot. As for Xposed, I use only VibrateMode to change the notification slider from all/important/none to all/vibrate/none, and GravityBox to center the clock in the status bar and to set the volume buttons to skip tracks on long press. I also have Glimpse Notifications installed so that the screen lights up when a notification comes in.
The funny thing is, notifications not coming through is one of the reasons I switched to the OPT from the Huawei Mate 7, where this issue was due to power management settings by Huawei. Since I'm now back on the stock kernel and have also no power saving apps such as Greenify or Amplify enabled, I am really out of ideas as to why this happens. The next step is to flash a fully stock OOS 2.1.2 (my Nandroid backup is already rooted and with my Google account set up), wipe data and cache, and re-install every app again.
Does anyone here have any idea what the problem (and the solution to it) might be?
UPDATE: After I wrote the last sentence, I received two messages simultaneously, one from Messenger and one from WhatsApp. I was at home and on WiFi, and both coming in at the same time must mean that the phone receives push notifications in fixed intervals, since the sender of both messages was the same person and sent them consecutively, i.e. with at least a minute in-between. Now I am especially confused since a) they came through at all, even though the screen was off and the phone had been idle for at least 15 minutes, and b) they came through at the same time, which was definitely not the time when they had been sent.
The confusion is complete now ... any input is appreciated. Thanks in advance!

The problem persists. Today for half a day I received all notifications, after that once again only when I turned on the screen or opened the respective app. WiFi all the time, no settings changed in between.
This really annoys me to no end. I don't own an expensive smartphone so it doesn't work as it should. I never had any troubles like this with my old Sony Xperia V. Then again it ate through a full battery in half a day ...

Are you sure you are not using any applications like greenify / amplify or powernap which would hibernate your applications ?

mdaamir1989 said:
Are you sure you are not using any applications like greenify / amplify or powernap which would hibernate your applications ?
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Yes. As I said, I reflashed my original (rooted but otherwise unaltered) Nandroid backup and then reinstalled all apps, and am not using anything that could interfere with apps receiving notifications.
The order in which notifications come through automatically vs. only when I activate the display or open the respective app also doesn't seem to follow any regularity ... sometimes it works as it should, sometimes it doesn't.
As for Facebook notifications, I somehow have a feeling this is a specific FB-related problem. But as for Messenger, WhatsApp and now also Instagram as I've noticed, it's all the same issue as described in my original post. The only exception really seems to be Gmail, which always notifies me of new emails.
EDIT: All these apps have unaltered permissions, i.e. are allowed to keep the phone awake, and all apps are set to "important" for notifications, so this doesn't seem to be the issue either.
EDIT 2: I also installed push notification fixer to see what interval is set for the GCM services, and it's set to 5 minutes on WiFi and 6 minutes on mobile data. So that also can't be the issue.
Could the screen not lighting up when a notification comes in have something to do with deep sleep, possibly? But then why does it work for Gmail???

vonotny said:
Yes. As I said, I reflashed my original (rooted but otherwise unaltered) Nandroid backup and then reinstalled all apps, and am not using anything that could interfere with apps receiving notifications.
The order in which notifications come through automatically vs. only when I activate the display or open the respective app also doesn't seem to follow any regularity ... sometimes it works as it should, sometimes it doesn't.
As for Facebook notifications, I somehow have a feeling this is a specific FB-related problem. But as for Messenger, WhatsApp and now also Instagram as I've noticed, it's all the same issue as described in my original post. The only exception really seems to be Gmail, which always notifies me of new emails.
EDIT: All these apps have unaltered permissions, i.e. are allowed to keep the phone awake, and all apps are set to "important" for notifications, so this doesn't seem to be the issue either.
EDIT 2: I also installed push notification fixer to see what interval is set for the GCM services, and it's set to 5 minutes on WiFi and 6 minutes on mobile data. So that also can't be the issue.
Could the screen not lighting up when a notification comes in have something to do with deep sleep, possibly? But then why does it work for Gmail???
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I could suggest you one more thing. Its a shot in the dark .
Could you check "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" in you advanced Wi-Fi settings ?
If the above is not a problem then out of ideas buddy. As a last option you could clean flash by wiping everything and just install whatsapp and other apps in which you are facing a notification delay. If it works then there could be some other application interfering , it it doesn't then i am not sure what it could be.

mdaamir1989 said:
I could suggest you one more thing. Its a shot in the dark .
Could you check "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" in you advanced Wi-Fi settings ?
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That's not it, but thanks for the suggestion.
mdaamir1989 said:
If the above is not a problem then out of ideas buddy. As a last option you could clean flash by wiping everything and just install whatsapp and other apps in which you are facing a notification delay. If it works then there could be some other application interfering , it it doesn't then i am not sure what it could be.
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Yeah, that's pretty much my last resort. Currently, I'm trying to see if it makes a difference whether I keep FB Messenger and WhatsApp "open" in the recent apps menu.

try setting the refresh intervals in push notifications fixer to 1 minute

persian99 said:
try setting the refresh intervals in push notifications fixer to 1 minute
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I could try that, you're right - I didn't yet because I didn't want to sacrifice battery life too much ... but I could give it a shot for at least one charging cycle and see what the effect is. Thanks!

vonotny said:
I could try that, you're right - I didn't yet because I didn't want to sacrifice battery life too much ... but I could give it a shot for at least one charging cycle and see what the effect is. Thanks!
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i do remember reading some time ago that these intervals do not impact the battery life, but you could test for yourself just to be sure

So, currently most notifications are working again for me, for whatever reason. Facebook being the big exception, of course. Might have to do with keeping the apps opened in the multitasking overview. If that's what it takes, then fine ...

I've got a OPT for few day, i have same issue......anyone experience this problem? any solution? is it 2.1.2 problem?

GARYKNVB said:
I've got a OPT for few day, i have same issue......anyone experience this problem? any solution?
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Which app? Only Facebook, or other apps as well? For me it's working now, but I can't say why exactly. I use a number of tweaks on my phone (root, Xposed framework etc.) so I can't definitely say which of my apps cause issues and which fix them again.
As for Gmail, it appears that when there's already a notification for an email and a little later another one comes in, it won't play a sound or vibrate. That seems to be standard behaviour but I find it VERY annoying, even though I set Gmail to notify me on EACH incoming email.

despite suggesting a fix i seem to be experiencing the same problem as well. it happens on both wifi and mobile data so you cant blame any settings. my best guess would be its because of the latest update. gonna have to backup my data and revert back to the older firmware to solve this issue.

@vonotny have you found a solution? im experiencing the same problem after updating to 2.2.0

persian99 said:
@vonotny have you found a solution? im experiencing the same problem after updating to 2.2.0
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Not really, no. Mine are currently working again, after I re-flashed the stock system and set up everything again step-by-step. It's possible that some app or tweak or setting caused the issue, but I couldn't find out which one.

vonotny said:
Not really, no. Mine are currently working again, after I re-flashed the stock system and set up everything again step-by-step. It's possible that some app or tweak or setting caused the issue, but I couldn't find out which one.
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i suspected it could be because of restoring apps from titanium backup directly instead of downloading and installing them from the play store first, but even with that i still face the same problem. currently on oxyslim. come to think of it, could it be caused by the power tweaks? did you use them before when you faced the problem?

Same problem here on OOS3.0.1. Inbox and WhatsApp messages don't often come through until I turn on the screen. Completely stock. Didn't have the problem on CM13, I think. It's really annoying because I can miss a lot of important emails from work. Even put the apps I want in No Battery Optimization mode. No help really.

i have the same problem. I'm on OOS3.0.2 with Cyanoxy. Can anyone help?

Same problem here...
What the F?
This device is almost a year old and I still can't use it as PHONE. I am not asking for some fancy stuff, but fixing the gigantic bugs that are preventing me from even using this daily.

Fix for those willing to tweak the system: install the latest Boeffla kernel, it has an option to turn off doze.

Receive group of Texts when screen turned on

I have noticed in the last few days that when I wake my phone, I get a bunch of text messages. Like its losing its connection when it is sleeping. Is anyone else experiencing this?
I am on Project Fi.

bretrick30 said:
I have noticed in the last few days that when I wake my phone, I get a bunch of text messages. Like its losing its connection when it is sleeping. Is anyone else experiencing this?
I am on Project Fi.
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It's the doze feature on marshmallow, besides the battery saving stuff it does, it essentially also delays a lot of notifications that comes in the phone, i haven't found a fix for it yet.

D47x said:
It's the doze feature on marshmallow, besides the battery saving stuff it does, it essentially also delays a lot of notifications that comes in the phone, i haven't found a fix for it yet.
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Doze should not impact SMS, phone calls or alarms, to my understanding. If you're using a 3rd party SMS app, you might need to exempt it from battery optimization.

fury683 said:
Doze should not impact SMS, phone calls or alarms, to my understanding. If you're using a 3rd party SMS app, you might need to exempt it from battery optimization.
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Oh right didn't see the texting part....well yeah what you said lol. Although for whatsapp and a couple of IM apps are still suffering delays even when app is listed as priority and exempt from battery optimizations (for me at least)
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-1 with me.
I have no delay on any notification and have not changed any setting in Doze.

I use Naptime to customize Doze. I had turned on the Aggressive Doze option. Today I turned that option off and it seems like my messages are now coming in normal.

WhatsApp connectivity S8

Hey guys!
I just moved from a rooted LG G4 running Lollipop to the S8 Exynos. It really seems to be a great phone but I'm having issues with WhatsApp.
Sometimes I feel like the messages aren't really coming up in time, I can open the app and see no new message, close the app, open it again and it will reconnect and show me new messages.
It is even more noticeable while using the WhatsApp desktop program on Windows 10. I see a lot of yellow messages saying I'm not connected to the phone OR when I send a messages I see the "clock" instead of the single-double check right away.
My WiFi setting is set to "Always".
I'm not using any battery save option from the phone.
I installed Greenify (not rooted) but WhatsApp is not in the list to hibernate
Any ideas of what is going on? I didn't have this problem on the G4.

have you added whatsapp into the 'unmonitored apps' section in battery settings?

Can you check BBS and see if WA is using crazy amount of sensor usage? Mine is. I had to turn off battery optimization for WA to work.

lawrence750 said:
have you added whatsapp into the 'unmonitored apps' section in battery settings?
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It is there. I don't remember adding it into the unmonitored apps but it is there.
km8j said:
Can you check BBS and see if WA is using crazy amount of sensor usage? Mine is. I had to turn off battery optimization for WA to work.
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Sorry, what is BBS?
I've been playing and trying to figure out what is going on. I found out that my phone is running on "optimized" and not in High Performance, Game or Entertainment. Do you guys think this has something to do with it? It shouldn't be this way right? I also have WhatsApp set to ignore any battery save option, according to the app options.
Also, yesterday I turned off my router. I received a message just before turning it off and I saw the notification on the Windows program like I usually do but it took a couple of minutes for the phone to let me know I received a notification, even though the phone had no connection to the internet. lol what?

pakitos said:
It is there. I don't remember adding it into the unmonitored apps but it is there.
Sorry, what is BBS?
I've been playing and trying to figure out what is going on. I found out that my phone is running on "optimized" and not in High Performance, Game or Entertainment. Do you guys think this has something to do with it? It shouldn't be this way right? I also have WhatsApp set to ignore any battery save option, according to the app options.
Also, yesterday I turned off my router. I received a message just before turning it off and I saw the notification on the Windows program like I usually do but it took a couple of minutes for the phone to let me know I received a notification, even though the phone had no connection to the internet. lol what?
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BetterBatteryStats. No, you should be using optimized.

km8j said:
BetterBatteryStats. No, you should be using optimized.
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Thanks! I downloaded the app but I need to do the ADB thing and I left the USB cable at home lol (now I need to buy multiple ones and aren't cheap)
I also noticed that I do receive the visual notifications (like in the notification bar) but the sound and LED notification comes way later.

Anyone solve the sensor issues

I was finally able to solve this problem and decided to put how I did it in case anyone can benefit from it.
I did check that Whatsapp was listed as "Unmonitored apps" in the battery section of device manager, but still had the problem. After further internet research I noticed that people where pointing to the Android's Optimize battery section, which seems that is doing a very similar functionality but is accessed from a completely different place, so make sure Whatsapp is not being "optimized" from here either.
To find this section go to Settings-> Apps -> Click the 3 Dots menu in the top right -> Special access -> Optimize battery usage -> Select "All apps" from the dropdown menu. In here, make sure Whatsapp and any other app that you cannot risk to go to sleep unintended shows as disabled (not being optimized).
Hope this helps someone with this disconnections.

WhatsApp location sharing problem

Hi all
I use my share location sometimes on way home from work, but it doesn't work, as soon as I open the app again it starts to work again?
Seems the app has to be open and running and on to be working.
Not an issue on previous phones, is there a way to allow it to remain running? Seems silly to need to have it on?

Try to not optimize the battery usage on WhatsApp. That may solve the issue. I have experienced delay in notifications with WhatsApp, so I removed that optimization. Normally this solves the 90% of the issues with location, notifications or background processes

WhatsApp location permission setting change from only when app is running to always allow?

hjin said:
WhatsApp location permission setting change from only when app is running to always allow?
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Take a look, there is no option.

WeedBilbao said:
Try to not optimize the battery usage on WhatsApp. That may solve the issue. I have experienced delay in notifications with WhatsApp, so I removed that optimization. Normally this solves the 90% of the issues with location, notifications or background processes
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That makes sense, cheers will give it a whirl.
Disabled it, let's see how it goes, there really is no option to leave it constantly on, how crap is that.

dladz said:
Take a look, there is no option.
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Never noticed that wasn't an option for Whatsapp. Thats an option with most other apps, but found this
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...-all-the-time-location-permission-to-whatsapp

hjin said:
Never noticed that wasn't an option for Whatsapp. Thats an option with most other apps, but found this
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...-all-the-time-location-permission-to-whatsapp
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Nice find, glad to see it wasn't just me either