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OTA update 100 percent awake time.

So I updated my EVO to fix the qik problem as mine would not sign in.
Now I noticed I have 100 percent awake time and the battery is draining fast.
Anyone have this problem? I searched around but didn't see a mention of it anywhere. I have not rooted yet at all just setup the phone then did the update. Had no problems before the update.
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Mine seems to randomly stay awake too (but not always!)
Download the spare parts app from the market and in the battery history section, check the partial wake usage to see what's keeping the phone awake.

Mine seems to randomly stay awake too (but not always!)
Download the spare parts app from the market and in the battery history section, check the partial wake usage to see what's keeping the phone awake.
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Ya I had that installed seems to android system and calendar.
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Hero Flashbacks!!!

Well there is something going on with calendar as it will be 100 percent awake if calendar is running soon as I kill it with task panel the phone sleeps.
Damn it
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I'm also seeing the 100% wake after the ota update. I'm downloading spare parts now to check if it's the calendar.
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Today: 5 hours off the charger...5 hours awake time ONLY by the calendar. It's pretty impressive. I'm trying unchecking the calendar sync portion of gmail sync and charging it up to see how it performs for the second half of today. >.<

I killed the calendar app and my phone is finally going to sleep. This is probably it. I was getting the same result in spare parts. I installed auto task killer to kill the calendar in case I ever do open it.

I killed it also and the battery is performing MUCH better after a few hours by comparison. I wonder what it is about it that's not letting go properly.

Nothing here after update, Up is 10 hours, awake is 3 hours...my poor pocket empire is feeling neglected!

Are we all using the HTC calendar widget?

nachyochez said:
Nothing here after update, Up is 10 hours, awake is 3 hours...my poor pocket empire is feeling neglected!
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Do you sync with google calendar?

sph33r said:
Are we all using the HTC calendar widget?
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I am using the widget. I turned off all calendars except the Exchange one I need, and it still has the partial wake lock. Anyone find a workaround? We need a new thread for this?

sph33r said:
Are we all using the HTC calendar widget?
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I disabled the widget but that didn't stop it.

Looking into the logcat output, I saw on each sleep/wake cycle, 'SocialNetworkSyncmanager' acquiring a wakelock all the time (or, what seemed like a wakelock from the logcat).
Couldn't find exactly what that was, but noticed Footprints was running (wtf is that thing). Force closed that **** from Settings > Applications > Manage Applications, and now no 'SocialNetworkSyncManager' wakelock logcat messages.
Looking in Spare Parts, it seems that Calendar is no longer 100% of the partial wakelock time. Hrm. Will keep testing, but really need rundown time tests tomorrow to really get an idea of this works.

I had no idea footprints was part of the calendar. I never used it on windows mobile but I'll try disabling that too.

I am also running the widget but seems to make no diff if I use it or not.
I will start investigating the log cat see if matches the mentioned above.
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donatom3 said:
I had no idea footprints was part of the calendar. I never used it on windows mobile but I'll try disabling that too.
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Me either. We'll see. Now I really want root so i can uninstall the Sprint crapware (NFL, "Navigation" meta-app, Footprints, FriendStream). Sheesh.

mchang said:
Me either. We'll see. Now I really want root so i can uninstall the Sprint crapware (NFL, "Navigation" meta-app, Footprints, FriendStream). Sheesh.
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The only two of those that are sprint are NFL and navigator. The rest are all htc.

donatom3 said:
The only two of those that are sprint are NFL and navigator. The rest are all htc.
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True. Let me restate it then: I want a clean rooted image so that all that crap isn't in there, including the HTC and Sprint stuff!

Updated Facebook app not allowing phone to sleep

Just a heads up, with the new Facebook app my phone is not sleeping. When I log out of the app the phone does sleep when the screen is off. I'm running Baked Snack 1.1. I'm curious to see if it's just me, or if others are having the same issue.

Yep, I have noticed that as well. I mentioned it in the "There is a NEW FACEBOOK APP" (paraphrased) thread.

i installed it last night and this morning it i checked spare parts for partial wake items and facebook app was the highest, near 30%
i went into the facebook app and changed the update frequency; hopefully that'll fix it

Rhys'Droid said:
Yep, I have noticed that as well. I mentioned it in the "There is a NEW FACEBOOK APP" (paraphrased) thread.
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Ok good to know. Hopefully if enough people are having the issue Facebook will do an update to correct the problem.

I'm on the leaked .3 Rom and mines working fine, have you tried doing a restart and clearing the facebook cache?

kingakuma said:
I'm on the leaked .3 Rom and mines working fine, have you tried doing a restart and clearing the facebook cache?
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Yeah when I reboot the phone it can go back to sleep, but if I log in to the Facebook app and back out it won't go back to sleep. Once I actually log out of Facebook the phone can sleep again.

abanh said:
Yeah when I reboot the phone it can go back to sleep, but if I log in to the Facebook app and back out it won't go back to sleep. Once I actually log out of Facebook the phone can sleep again.
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Have you tried killing it in something like System Panel?
Just checked Autostarts, and Facebook isn't set to start on any occasion other than your account settings being changed and the widget updating. Of course I have the refresh for notifications off, but it should never start itself.

TheBiles said:
Have you tried killing it in something like System Panel?
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If you have the widget on a homescreen it just reloads the service in short order. That and you really shouldn't have to kill something like Facebook to keep it from causing sleep issues, I understand it on "chat" apps (eBuddy, etc.), but not in a periodically updated app like Facebook. Seems like a bug to me.

TheBiles said:
Have you tried killing it in something like System Panel?
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I've killed it with Advanced Task Killer... It just fires itself right back up.

Rhys'Droid said:
If you have the widget on a homescreen it just reloads the service in short order. That and you really shouldn't have to kill something like Facebook to keep it from causing sleep issues, I understand it on "chat" apps (eBuddy, etc.), but not in a periodically updated app like Facebook. Seems like a bug to me.
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I was just seeing if it would stay off or if it was starting itself back up. I updated my post with its start permissions.

TheBiles said:
I was just seeing if it would stay off or if it was starting itself back up. I updated my post with its start permissions.
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I figured that that was the case. For whatever reason, it wants to start itself though. I have my updates set to "never" and notifications set to "off" now (just had the updates set to never before, still had notifications set to "on") Charging right now, so I can't check my partial wakes, but will update to see if that makes any difference.

Killing the app doesn't work work for me. I have to sign out of the app for it to stop killing the battery.
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Same problem here, if I reboot the phone it doesnt start and everything is fine, once i launch it the first time it will perpetually keep the phone from sleeping, BS1.1

just force closed it and removed the widget. it doesn't start up again either after doing all that. stupid thing.. i knew something was not right about my battery today.

I'm running CM6's latest nightly and i'm not having any issues like this with updated facebook app. I have refresh interval set at 1 hour with notifications active

krazyflipj said:
I'm running CM6's latest nightly and i'm not having any issues like this with updated facebook app. I have refresh interval set at 1 hour with notifications active
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go to spare parts and select "partial wake usage" in battery history. you'll notice the fb app has been on since you first checked it, keeping your phone from sleeping.

shift_ said:
go to spare parts and select "partial wake usage" in battery history. you'll notice the fb app has been on since you first checked it, keeping your phone from sleeping.
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Atttached is a screen shot of partial wake usage. No facebook issues for me so far
*Knocks on hard wood*
*EDIT* I had phone plugged in. It looks like i'm having the same issues

krazyflipj said:
Atttached is a screen shot of partial wake usage. No facebook issues for me so far
*Knocks on hard wood*
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that's weird. mine's insanely high...

shift_ said:
that's weird. mine's insanely high...
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NVM i had my phone charging from my computer. Mine looks similar to yours. Hopefully we get a fix soon

krazyflipj said:
NVM i had my phone charging from my computer. Mine looks similar to yours. Hopefully we get a fix soon
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yea, it's funny though, i remember htc releasing an update that fixed battery issues with fb syncing. i wonder if it's something similar to that now, what with contact syncing enabled again. maybe i'll try it without contact syncing and see how it goes.

Phone never going to sleep - possible culprit

I have had problems with my phone sometimes refusing to sleep, causing my battery to drain..
today I think I found the culprit. Seems to be the stock email application that is the problem. After I stopped this the phone goes to sleep again.
Can anyone experiencing this problem verify? It could of course be other applications also.
I think I read something about a Samsung Email application. Is this available somewhere? For 2.1?

firstable you didn't tell us which app was the cause.
So which app was it?
I had something similar, but i knew because i ticked the option to stay on, problem is even after i exited the software, the phone remained on.
it was a bug in wifi scanner app on android market
so after going back in and ticked it off again, then the phone was able to go to sleep properly.
Samsung push email and IM come stock, it can be installed by going into Samsung App icon in your phone

gravejester said:
Seems to be the stock email application that is the problem.
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BTW. I don't have any email applications in Samsung Apps
So what other email application with exchange sync is recommended?

odd, you should have it
the next best thing is TouchDown 2.0 but it's paid software
maybe some one can upload the samsung APK for the mail push and IM for you.
in the Apps section of the site, some one uploaded the full APK of all samsung apps
see if you can find the topic

if only there's an app in the market showing what's causing the phone not to sleep in details.
searched everywhere to no avail ):

gravejester said:
I have had problems with my phone sometimes refusing to sleep, causing my battery to drain..
today I think I found the culprit. Seems to be the stock email application that is the problem. After I stopped this the phone goes to sleep again.
Can anyone experiencing this problem verify? It could of course be other applications also.
I think I read something about a Samsung Email application. Is this available somewhere? For 2.1?
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JM7/8 + Voodoo and using WiFi causes the phone not to sleep.
What firmware do you have?

JM8 + Voodoo.. but when I killed the email application, the phone started to sleep again.. I haven't dared to start email since It's still sleeping when it should.

Adevem said:
if only there's an app in the market showing what's causing the phone not to sleep in details.
searched everywhere to no avail ):
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*#*#4636#*#*
Battery History
Change "Other usage" to "Partial wake usage"
This should show you what application are keeping the phone from sleeping.

FR008 - Apps starting automatically

I rooted to FR008 recently and I've noticed that a lot of apps are starting automatically. Far more than the stock ROM. I use atk to kill then but they restart within moments.
yeah, I might be a little ocd about having things running, but the bigger problem is that a bunch of them start up when I turn on mobile data or wifi. everything competes for bandwidth at once
And so it slows down the app I'm trying to use.
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when you say they start up, what exactly do you mean? what apps are starting? do they just open and run in the background, or are they forcibly starting and taking over your screen? as for having certain programs start up when turning on some form of data, i've never experienced that particular issue.
don't blindly kill every task thats running, as the android os manages RAM and running apps differently than a windows pc.
i would highly recommend going to this thread and reading the posted links about task managers.

using a task killer on froyo is useless as the apps are restarted rather than killed

Sorry for the delay in replying..
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when you say they start up, what exactly do you mean?
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They start and run in the background. On most, I don't notice except for when I go to my task killer. Others show up with an icon in the task bar when data is turned on (see below)
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what apps are starting?
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On the stock ROM, Google Maps and Internet started up. After FR008, those two plus Stocks, Gmail, EasyTether, Google Finance, Astrid Tasks
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do they just open and run in the background, or are they forcibly starting and taking over your screen?
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In the background.
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as for having certain programs start up when turning on some form of data, i've never experienced that particular issue.
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Yep. When wifi or 3G data connects it goes crazy. I get a sync icon in the task bar (don't know if it's Google finance or Gmail) and most of the above-mentioned apps plus, Yahoo mail (which I do use) all start up and start trying to grab data.
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don't blindly kill every task thats running, as the android os manages RAM and running apps differently than a windows pc.
i would highly recommend going to this thread and reading the posted links about task managers.
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I will read up on this. Thanks!

Task killers are bad mmkay
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Noz85 said:
Task killers are bad mmkay
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+1 - Get rid of any automatic task killer apps.

as far as apps opening and running in the background, as i mentioned, its normal. android handles all of its running processes much differently than a normal computer os. having a lot of programs running isn't necessarily a bad thing, as you'll find through reading the linked post.
with apps syncing as soon as you turn data/wifi on, that also is normal. they don't bother trying when data is shut off, but once theres an available connection, they are going to try and grab the most current data so as to be accurate.
do you use most/any of the apps that are running? if not, many apps that can't be removed normally can be removed via this method.

mattbollenbach said:
with apps syncing as soon as you turn data/wifi on, that also is normal. they don't bother trying when data is shut off, but once theres an available connection, they are going to try and grab the most current data so as to be accurate.
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Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
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do you use most/any of the apps that are running? if not, many apps that can't be removed normally can be removed via this method.
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I'll get rid of the ones I don't use, but I do use some of them so I don't want to wipe them all out. That's why it would be nice to be able to configure an Autostart app as noted above..

ShinerDraft said:
Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
I'll get rid of the ones I don't use, but I do use some of them so I don't want to wipe them all out. That's why it would be nice to be able to configure an Autostart app as noted above..
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Its mostly you reception then the apps. How many task killers do you have running?
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ShinerDraft said:
Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
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you could turn off background data, or at least check your sync options and make sure programs you don't want trying to auto-sync are un-checked. that way, the only program that would use your data connection would be the one you are using at that moment.

Turn off auto-sync if you don't want them to do that. As previously mentioned, as soon as a data connection is available the apps that are set to auto-sync are going to go out and get the most recent data. Turning that off will just mean you have to sync whatever it is manually. But, it will stop the **** from "starting" automatically, which btw, is normal. Just because they are in the background and "running" (<- according to your task killer) doesn't mean they are "running" in the true sense of the word. It also doesn't mean that they are ALL trying to grab data and suck up bandwidth. Maps shouldn't be starting automatically, gmail is normal because you probably have autosync enabled for it. Task killers are detrimental, would advise you stop using them. Also, I used to be OCD like that as well because of how I am on a computer.

The OCD is hard to get over, but I've stopped using the task killer.
I already had AutoSync disabled, but background data was on.
I am going to try something for a few days..
I have JuiceDefender installed, and one of its' features is to turn data on for 2 minutes, twice per hour. My thinking is that letting those apps start automatically and grab what they need on their own will prevent them from jumping on my bandwidth when I manually turn data on for a one particular need.
The reason I didn't do this before is because I get a pretty large quantity of email on my Yahoo account, and don't want notifications bugging me all the time. I just turned off notifications in Ymail (duh!) and will check it when I want. Presumably, with the 2 minute/30 minute data schedule, I won't even have to turn data on to see my recent emails.

Annoying wakelocks (especially Facebook)

So, I loaded up BetterBatteryStates.
I'm getting some pretty bad wakelocks:
AlarmManager
Android System
10m58s
ChatSession
com.facebook.katana.Facebook
10m33s
^I don't even use facebook chat!
The facebook app is taking up 9% of my battery from using the standard Battery Manager.
Alarm Manager seems to be a common wakelock for others, but for this long?
Any solutions?

silentecho13 said:
So, I loaded up BetterBatteryStates.
I'm getting some pretty bad wakelocks:
AlarmManager
Android System
10m58s
ChatSession
com.facebook.katana.Facebook
10m33s
^I don't even use facebook chat!
The facebook app is taking up 9% of my battery from using the standard Battery Manager.
Alarm Manager seems to be a common wakelock for others, but for this long?
Any solutions?
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Facebook has been known to become a battery hog with certain updates they put through. I uninstalled mine because it was using some battery without me even using it. It's a pretty crappy app to be honest, you would be better off using the mobile browser version.
As for the AlarmManager, that's pretty normal. As I know it controls certain aspects of timing on the phone, not only the alarm clock. Someone else may be able to go into more detail about it then I can.

This is the first time I'm seeing Facebook use up so much CPU time, it's really annoying. I can't stand the mobile browser version lol, time to use Friendcaster again...
Alarm Manager seems to be hit or miss. Some days, it doesn't keep the phone awake too long, sometimes it does. I have alarms and schedules every day though, so I'm guessing it controls other aspects of the phone as well.
For now I have the FB notifications and refreshes disabled. It still seems to be keeping the phone awake though.
I FCed it and it just sort of wakes back up.

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This is the first time I'm seeing Facebook use up so much CPU time, it's really annoying. I can't stand the mobile browser version lol, time to use Friendcaster again...
Alarm Manager seems to be hit or miss. Some days, it doesn't keep the phone awake too long, sometimes it does. I have alarms and schedules every day though, so I'm guessing it controls other aspects of the phone as well.
For now I have the FB notifications and refreshes disabled. It still seems to be keeping the phone awake though.
I FCed it and it just sort of wakes back up.
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I've noticed that with some facebook updates they fix the issue, then release another update and the issue comes back, I don't know what they are doing lol. If you've updated FB recently it could explain it, I know I did then noticed the battery hog issue.

I believe I updated it within the past week, but the issue seemed to show up in the last 2 days.
We need a new update lol.

I installed Facebook. The mobile website works just fine. I use the Facebook Messenger to receive messages and it doesn't cause any wakelocks.