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08 Altima Bluetooth

We just bought an '08 Altima with the bluetooth option. I can pair the XV6800 with no problem, but quality sucks. It is super choppy on my end and the person on the other end can't hear me at all. I tried my wifes XV6800, same thing. I can pair my old E815 and it works perfectly, so it's not the car. I tried a hard reset, no difference.
I tried loading dcd's clean rom 1.6.7, no difference. Is the BT stack upgraded in this rom?
Is there a newer BT stack out there that I could try?

Its worth downloading and trying the Jetware BT Extensions and see if that helps....but usually it does not change quality so much as enable functionality.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
Brad

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't help.

Developer help with Infiniti/Nissan Bluetooth?
I've got the exact same issue with an '07 Infiniti G35 w/navigation. I've been doing lots of reading on the xv6800's bluetooth, have tried DCD's and Custel's roms, and was just about to start my own thread, but I'll bet our cars are the same bluetooth/rom wise.
Jetware didn't help me either.
Here's the best fix I've found and it works for me consistently.
-Whence the option's available depending on whether you're dialing out or receiving, click the "use handset" button (transfers call to the xv6800).
-Shortly after press the "phone" button (transfers call back through car).
-Should work as expected after that.
Anyway, at this point I'm hoping one of the kind devs on this forum (DCD or Custel to name just two of many) might find a sec to help us out, although I'm aware and appreciate the fact that many other users are keeping them very busy on their own projects.
I'm assuming the xv6800's hardware would be most similar to other HTC pda phones (not sure what happens between GSM and CDMA devices), so here's a list of their phones who's bluetooth does work with my car (from here). It supports the bluetooth in 144 phones total.
Kaiser (wasn't working with stock rom, but works after this patch from HTC)
Hermes
Atlas
Wizard
Apache
Magician
Harrier
HTC pda phones that don't work with my car (at least not 100%).
Vogue
Elf
Titan
The Titan DOES work with an '07-'08 Infiniti G35 WITHOUT navigation (buy more, get less ).
In addition to the stock Verizon rom I've tried DCD's 1.6.1, 1.6.7, and Custel's 1.1 with no change in the symptoms.
It's my understanding the dev community thinks modding the Vogue's bluetooth for the Titan shows the most promise. I found this thread mentioning an alternative, but it seems to have gone stale on another forum. I'd prefer not to use that forum.
I understand the Vogue's bluetooth might show the most promise for general bluetooth applications (which would satisfy the most users), but becuase I plan to use bluetooth solely through this car, does anyone know if I might be able to go an easier route given the information I've provided?
I'm using radio 1.40.00, could 1.47.01 make a difference?
Can anything be learned through HTC's Kaiser update patch?
Are there any bluetooth alternatives being tested that I haven't found?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

OK. I tried what you said and confirm the same results on the '08 Altima. If I switch to handset and back to Bluetooth, the sound is clear (weird). The only problem is, I can't switch until a call is in progress. This is a work around, but not a good one. We need a BT stack that fixes this. Or maybe firmware upgrade from the auto manufacturer.

I know this is going to sounds like a cheap shot, but it sounds to me like something needs to be fixed on Nissan's side. I've tried mine in an Accura without any problem, however both of your stereos are manufactured by Nissan.
A word of advice: I always found that auto makers should stick to what they do- namely, make cars. If Nissan were so great at BT stereos, you'd see nissan headsets.
I never bother with factory Bluetooth anymore- I swapped my stereo right away for a decent Sony Xplod system that supports A2DP (wireless stereo) as well as phone calls. The aftermarket stereo not only sounds great, but I play all my music from my phone without taking it out of my pocket. Last I checked, no stock car stereos supported this. Sony is good at stereo and bluetooth (been around the block a few times).
Complain to Nissan. Or swap your stereo for something decent.

My Sprint 6700 with BigJ Rom works great with the 08 Altima. In the fact the audio quality is better than the Sanyo Katana that I also have paired. I am dispointed that I cannt answer calls from both phones on the car headset without first selecting the phone that has an incoming call. Even my At&T home phone with bluetooth can do that although it does require you to select a cellphone for outgoing calls.
I was able to upload a contact entry from my 6700 to the car Download phonebook. However, I can not get that into the more usable phonebook directory. Anyone succeed in doing that?

shannl said:
My Sprint 6700 with BigJ Rom works great with the 08 Altima.
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You might be in the wrong forum. The Titan is a 6800, not a 6700.

yes, but this thread is discussing the Altima BT stereo. Truthfully, this whole thread should go in a more general BT forum, since I don't think it pertains to the 6800 exactly.

08 altima bluetooth
Just wanted to say thanks to Park City for posting the name of the web site with the bluetooth extentions (jetwaremobile.com). I have just recently purchased an 08 Altima with the Nav system and bluetooth. I have an Tmobile MDA with a cooked ROM running WM6 and I could not get the entire outlook phone book to download to the car. Once I installed the jetware mobile extentions everything worked just fine. I even got some additional functionality I was not expecting like signal strengh and battery status on the nav srceen. As for voice quality, it's never been an issue for me. So far anyway

As I can see, they are currently testing the Mogul with both of your cars. I don't know what they mean by 'testing', but that's what is going on right now.
http://www.nissanusa.com/bluetooth/...gation+System&mfg=All+Manufacturers&x=51&y=16
http://www.infiniti.com/bluetooth/t...igation+System&mfg=All+Manufacturers&x=42&y=9

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As I can see, they are currently testing the Mogul with both of your cars.
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I saw that too, but I don't have a lot of confidence they'll be releasing a bluetooth update any time soon. That's why I was hoping the Titan's bluetooth hardware might be similar enough to the hardware in one of the devices that DO work with our cars (Kaiser, etc., list in my earlier post) that their bluetooth software could be ported "easily" to the Titan. I'm sure the devs here are trying to get the Titan's bluetooth to work as well as possible for everyone's devices, which makes sense. However, with California's new "handsfree driving" law starting July '08, I'm only concerned with getting the Titan to work with my car.
Apparently no one's too sure if that's possible.

1. have any of you verified first hand that the kaiser does in fact work?
2. could someone research and identify the bt hardware in the kaiser, and the titan?
3. has anyone run the kaiser bt fix on their titan and tried it?
i suppose i never thought to look at the kaiser's bt. mine still functions after applying that kaiser patch..
the kaiser patch is a replacement TIInit_4_2_38.bts file
this file did not exist in any titan roms prior to 2.16
2.16 introduced this file (i compared md5 and its not the same data)
2.17, htcs supposed 'fix', does NOT contain this file
all vogue roms i have seen DO contain this file, but again its different data
maybe you guys are on to something
i will throw something together tomorrow probably...drinking time.

dcd, thanks for the help, enjoy those drinks!
1. Not first hand, I'm going off this post. That thread's also why I believe the Kaiser wasn't working with the car before the patch.
2. I've spent a lot of time trying, but have come up empty on any detailed hardware specs.
3. I just ran the Kaiser patch and the bluetooth functions the same as it does without the patch.
I'm using a rom from your 1.6.7 kitchen with nothing else added (rom's working great, btw). I had the same issue with the stock Verizon rom.
Crazy thought, but if the cooked rom I'm using is based on a stock rom that didn't originally include the .bts file (2.17), could it be being ignored?

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good enough for me
Crazy thought, but if the cooked rom I'm using is based on a stock rom that didn't originally include the .bts file (2.17), could it be being ignored?
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maybe...i dont know how the file functions and ties into the others yet
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The Titan DOES work with an '07-'08 Infiniti G35 WITHOUT navigation (buy more, get less ).
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i take it they are completely different head units?

I have a 07 G35 WITH Navi and yes, the quality is choppy when I connect my phone to it. I have been just using my Platronics Discover 640 for the BT these days... It'd be nice if someone can come up with a solution for this...

dcd1182 said:
i take it they are completely different head units?
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They're pretty different. With nav you get a 10 gig hd it'll rip cd's to, the nav runs off that hd, the gui which controls much of the car is different, voice prompts are different, the available buttons are different (see attached pics), and you lose a cd changer. I do know first hand that w/o nav the bt works great with an XV6800 (got a loaner once). Again, I've been unable to find out what's specifically different hardware wise (even with the full service manual).
riDuh7 said:
I have a 07 G35 WITH Navi and yes, the quality is choppy when I connect my phone to it.
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Is choppy quality your only problem? Are your symptoms different from ours in my earlier post?

FZ1 said:
They're pretty different. With nav you get a 10 gig hd it'll rip cd's to, the nav runs off that hd, the gui which controls much of the car is different, voice prompts are different, the available buttons are different (see attached pics), and you lose a cd changer. I do know first hand that w/o nav the bt works great with an XV6800 (got a loaner once). Again, I've been unable to find out what's specifically different hardware wise (even with the full service manual).
Is choppy quality your only problem? Are your symptoms different from ours in my earlier post?
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Once connected, I get a really static noise from my end while in the conversation. Of course, it'a really not usable at all....
I'm going to try the reconnecting method that was mentioned above today. I'll come back and report the outcome. And thanks for the help BTW.
EDIT: BTW, my Wizard (Cingy 8125), Hermes (Cingy 8525), Samsung i760, and few of the Moto handsets are all fine paired to my car. MAYBE, someone can get the BT stack from Hermes to work with the Titan?

FZ1 said:
They're pretty different. With nav you get a 10 gig hd it'll rip cd's to
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whoa, someone hook me up with a G35 to uh, test
Wizard (Cingy 8125), Hermes (Cingy 8525), Samsung i760, and few of the Moto handsets are all fine paired to my car. MAYBE, someone can get the BT stack from Hermes to work with the Titan?
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well, peices of it maybe. i would blindly guess that the kaiser is closer to titan than hermes, but we need to exactly identify the bt chip in each. plus its still shady then, ie the kaiser has tnetw1251 for wlan same as the titan and I cannot get their newer wlan driver to work on my device.
what we really need to look at is previous bt stack modifications for other devices. i need a better understanding of tiinit_blah. I've also noticed that the devices that work have a more extensive, or a 2nd audiopara file that sets values for some bt devices. to be completely honest right now i dont know what im looking at and i need to figure out how it all fits together before i know where to start.

Well, I tried reconnect method from both phone and the car, but neither did anything at all. The quality is still crappy as heck. Man... I reallly wish this works.
EDIT: Actually my side of the speaker was complete static, and the other side could not hear what I was saying AT ALL. This efing blows.

My G1 works with my bluetooth enabled car stereo

I was excited when this happened so I thought I would share. So I just bought a pioneer avic f900bt in dash nav av stereo for my car from circuit city on the last day the store was open. I got super lucky, got the stereo for 200$ which is 80% less than retail price. It has bluetooth capabilities for phone integration. I paired my G1 with it and it automatically downloaded my contact list from my phone onto the stereo. i can make calls by selecting a contact on my stereo and it does it's thing. My question is, the g1 is based off the android os and the stereo is a WinCE os, how come the G1 can't sync with other windows programs like outlook? this would be sweet. ohwell the phone is freaking sweet anyways. would totally buy one for the wife but they need more medical programs available for it as she is a Dr. and needs all that stuff on her pda phone.

thats awesome news. I was wondering about this, as I am about to purchase a BT stereo for my car.

the avic f900bt just got the latest firmware update for its bluetooth. It even recognized the phone as a TMobile G1. Not sure what other brands of stereo have same capabilities.

strikeoutss said:
...My question is, the g1 is based off the android os and the stereo is a WinCE os, how come the G1 can't sync with other windows programs like outlook? this would be sweet. ohwell the phone is freaking sweet anyways. would totally buy one for the wife but they need more medical programs available for it as she is a Dr. and needs all that stuff on her pda phone.
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This is because Bluetooth does not care what OS is running but what Bluetooth profiles are on the systems. Handsfree profile allows for speakerphone, A2DP profile allows you to stream your music to another device in stereo, and so on. For communication with Outlook it would need the PIM profile installed.
As of now the G1 only has Handfree profiles installed. Hopefully Cupcake will introduce us to more (A2DP is listed as one.)

atoy74 said:
This is because Bluetooth does not care what OS is running but what Bluetooth profiles are on the systems. Handsfree profile allows for speakerphone, A2DP profile allows you to stream your music to another device in stereo, and so on. For communication with Outlook it would need the PIM profile installed.
As of now the G1 only has Handfree profiles installed. Hopefully Cupcake will introduce us to more (A2DP is listed as one.)
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It looks like we are slowing unlocking the hidden potential of the phone.
The day of the online press release before the launch they said that tethering wouldn't be supported and we've come a long way with that. I was very close to not getting the phone because I NEED tethering support. Now it's easier with this phone then it is with my WinMobile phones. It's only a matter of time until someone figures out how to do the "impossible" again. Wouldn't it be neat if you had stereo blue tooth to your car stereo all coming from a 32gb sd card? My guess is that we'll figure out it before it comes out on an update. Come on geeks... put on your thinking caps!

Go ahead and buy her the G1. I am a doctor. between wikipedia and google.
there isn't much info left in those ancient PDA programs.
For drugs she can just go to medscape.com
The only people left using the old pda programs are students who get cappy old palms for free from their schools.

thanks for the info ratsoda. I will show my wife and see if that would work for her. Then all we have to do is wait for her phone to be ready for full upgrade. I think it will be in may. my only worry is that she drops her current phone atleast once a week. drives me crazy as I have never dropped any of my phones. maybe being a techy makes me sensitive to stuff like that.

strikeoutss said:
my only worry is that she drops her current phone atleast once a week. drives me crazy as I have never dropped any of my phones. maybe being a techy makes me sensitive to stuff like that.
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Man, isn't that something. I have the same problem. Wife and children drop their phone at least once a week. I would probably hurt my self trying to keep mine from hitting the ground.
Can you imagine dropping the G1..it looks like it will fly apart with only a moderate drop. One lick, upper left corner and "bam", you have a detached keyboard.
My greatest fear for my G1
And by the way....if you are still shopping for a "wifey" phone, let me suggest blackberry. That's what I got for mine. Pretty phone, does all she will ever need, and is sturdy as hell. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin', so to speak

Bluetooth issues

hello,
ok, can the g1 send pics bluetooth? i didnt see an option, and when my wife tried to send a pic blue tooth to me it wouldnt go.. it paired the phone but could not send pics.
rooted g1/hardspl/rc33 1.41

This is as close to a FAQ as it can get.
No, it can't. Current version of Android (at least those available to us mortals) only support headset/hands free BT profiles.
/Mats

ah, i c... thats' kinda crapy, considerin this phone can do almost every thing except wipe for me..... well... thanx for lettin me know!

When the G1 was released, the BT part of Android wasn't completely finished. so instead of releasing something potentially buggy. the BT functionality was stripped down to a bare minimum. Before its release. it was even rumored not to have any BT at all!
I believe the next version (Cupcake) will improve on the current situation.
/Mats

wow, that's actually kind of lame.... i guess i'd rather not have a super buggy phone, but i would use the BT to transfer pics alot with the behold, till i got this one....
well i hope they do fix it !
again thanx for info!

What you are discussing here is THE SINGLE reason why my G1 will be going on ebay very shortly. It is really annoying not being able to send/receive files as well as not being able to use my bluetooth headphones (paid £70 6days before I got my G1) to listen to music.

The BT stack (bluez) can do it.. there's just no UI for any of it, which is a shame.
I suspect it's because it originates in the US where they don't use BT much.. the iphone has the same issue.

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What you are discussing here is THE SINGLE reason why my G1 will be going on ebay very shortly. It is really annoying not...
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That' what you get for not doing your home work before you buy.
/Mats

AD2P
AD2P is already in lined up in the cupcake devel from my understanding; The G1 is well worth the wait to use my BT headphones .

[Q] Bluetooth pairing with Audi Phone system

HI, recently moved from iPhone4 to the Arc and love every bit of it...except the bluetooh pairing with my car's (Audi Q7 2G MMI) handsfree.
Pairing is intermittent and even when it's paired, the connection seems to drop off within seconds.
Does anyone else have the same problem especially with Audis?

Generally, they do that until the phone book transfers across - i know that's the case for the RNS-E. I have a RS4, did it all the time when I first got it with my Blackberry (had 2500 contacts). Just leave the car on accessory with the phone in the garage. I couldn't stand the dong noise everytime it connected disconnected.
Could be worse, I just got the AT&T branded Samsung Focus, it won't even connect with the bluetooth in my Audi or my wife's RR.

OliverOllie said:
Generally, they do that until the phone book transfers across - i know that's the case for the RNS-E. I have a RS4, did it all the time when I first got it with my Blackberry (had 2500 contacts). Just leave the car on accessory with the phone in the garage. I couldn't stand the dong noise everytime it connected disconnected.
Could be worse, I just got the AT&T branded Samsung Focus, it won't even connect with the bluetooth in my Audi or my wife's RR.
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Thanks for the reply mate. When I did manage to pair them up, I could see all my contacts on the MMI's display previously. It's only recently that thsi connect/disconnect issue happened and it has certainly gotten worse today where I couldn't even hold a pair for more than 5 seconds.....

In that case - no idea.
Try deleting it on the phone and pairing again? Seems like a strange one.

OliverOllie said:
In that case - no idea.
Try deleting it on the phone and pairing again? Seems like a strange one.
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Did that as well. Tried restarting, deleting and repairing - still no joy.
may have to flash my phone and try again as a last resort....sigh...

have you tried contacting Audi to see if there is a firmware update for the car?
There is a chance even of the car is brand new the software version the phone\ stereo system is using is a few years old.
Just a thought.

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have you tried contacting Audi to see if there is a firmware update for the car?
There is a chance even of the car is brand new the software version the phone\ stereo system is using is a few years old.
Just a thought.
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hey thanks for the reply. Yeah thought about that too and that's an avenue which i may explore with audi.
having said that, the condition has improved somewhat...it's still intermittent but at leeast it's now 'stickier'. What I did was I uninstalled the last 5 applications that I put in prior to the this happening and it worked.
No idea why.

Bluetooth not paring

My Bluetooth keeps saying wrong pin with all my devices and even the car. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this! Ps. I'm on 4.5.8 cleaned installed.
Thanks

Hello,
I'm getting the same issue with my OnePlus5.
I'm not able to connect any device with bluetooth and each time I try to pair a device (car, smartwatch, other smartphone galaxy S6), the other device shows a pin code and asks if the same on the OnePlus5 but nothing happens on my OnePlus5.
after few seconds (about 30), I get pairing failed message saying "Couldn't pair with DeviceName because of an incorrect PIN or passkey."
Could you please help how to solve the issue. Thanks in advance.
My Device is:
OnePlus 5
OS / Version : OxygenOS 4.5.14
Recovery (stock/twrp/autre) : stock
Root (oui/non) : no

not getting passkey/pin accept prompt on the phone. Smartwatch & phone see one another and the phone attempts pairing, while the smartwatch displays code, but then the phone does nothing, timing out and giving wrong code message. Running 5.02
How can I get the phone to take the next step, to display a passkey confirm prompt? Have I defeated the popup with some other sw e.g. Malware bytes?

p1gnone said:
not getting passkey/pin accept prompt on the phone. Smartwatch & phone see one another and the phone attempts pairing, while the smartwatch displays code, but then the phone does nothing, timing out and giving wrong code message. Running 5.02
How can I get the phone to take the next step, to display a passkey confirm prompt? Have I defeated the popup with some other sw e.g. Malware bytes?
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It didn't work for me with my smartwatch if I choose Bluetooth LE.
What's your setup?

strongst said:
It didn't work for me with my smartwatch if I choose Bluetooth LE.
What's your setup?
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OP5 with 5.02 Oos, rooted, twrp recovery.. what do mean by setup?

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OP5 with 5.02 Oos, rooted, twrp recovery.. what do mean by setup?
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Exactly that plus which Smartwatch and Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE

strongst said:
Exactly that plus which Smartwatch and Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE
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LG Urbane3520 and the system Bluetooth. What do you mean by Bluetooth LE?

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LG Urbane3520 and the system Bluetooth. What do you mean by Bluetooth LE?
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How do you connect to the watch? With Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE. My Pebble Time Steel provides both, but with LE im also getting no pass key. That's why I'm asking about connection

strongst said:
How do you connect to the watch? With Bluetooth or Bluetooth LE. My Pebble Time Steel provides both, but with LE im also getting no pass key. That's why I'm asking about connection
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My system/stock Bluetooth pairs just fine with headsets, GoogleHome, my cars A3 & A4, even with my Dell Laptop
Asking for if anyone with similar OP5/5.02 has had similar experience so to see if it is intrinsic or due to other sw interactions.

p1gnone said:
My system/stock Bluetooth pairs just fine with headsets, GoogleHome, my cars A3 & A4, even with my Dell Laptop
Asking for if anyone with similar OP5/5.02 has had similar experience so to see if it is intrinsic or due to other sw interactions.
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Seems like a watch problem, cause I have also an audi A4(2016) and Bluetooth headsets and several connections to other cars and Bluetooth hands free
Maybe someone with the same Smartwatch and op5 can test?

strongst said:
Seems like a watch problem, cause I have also an audi A4(2016) and Bluetooth headsets and several connections to other cars and Bluetooth hands free
Maybe someone with the same Smartwatch and op5 can test?
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New watch. Wife got it as a tester. Not sure its even in the market yet. Who among your associates has an OP5? Me? none.
Watch generates&displays passkey, sees phone
Phone sees watch
User starts pairing
Phone never prompts passkey acceptance
So this seems like the phone is the problem? not to me.
[other background] Paired just fine with an iphone7
SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest that find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL. The point of a forum is for far flung users to share related experience and insights.. SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL.

p1gnone said:
New watch. Wife got it as a tester. Not sure its even in the market yet. Who among your associates has an OP5? Me? none.
Watch generates&displays passkey, sees phone
Phone sees watch
User starts pairing
Phone never prompts passkey acceptance
So this seems like the phone is the problem? not to me.
[other background] Paired just fine with an iphone7
SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest that find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL. The point of a forum is for far flung users to share related experience and insights.. SO your ultimate contribution was to suggest find someone with the same hardware combo? LOL.
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It was not my ultimate contribution to find one with the same watch, just a suggestion, but... It's a new watch, new to the market and it didn't pair with your op5 but with an iPhone 7. Maybe it's a problem of the watch if it's new several phones wouldn't supported maybe.
And since other devices pair successfully with your op5, where to look further? Maybe you have another android phone and can check?

strongst said:
It was not my ultimate contribution to find one with the same watch, just a suggestion, but... It's a new watch, new to the market and it didn't pair with your op5 but with an iPhone 7. Maybe it's a problem of the watch if it's new several phones wouldn't supported maybe.
And since other devices pair successfully with your op5, where to look further? Maybe you have another android phone and can check?
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Not due to the iphone7 pairing. It's unpaired now and it returns to stock when unpairing.
So yeah, will pair/attempt with the wife's S9+ this evening.
Thanks