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HTC TyTN II Navigation Upgrade Kit (CU S120)

Has anyone tried the HTC TyTN II Navigation Upgrade Kit (CU S120)
Was thinking about getting it as i no longer trust my Brodit active holder due to my USB port blowing while using it and having to send the phone away to HTC for repair
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=159378
Only £23.95 so an even cheaper solution than the Brodit

Does this include only the cradle and charger, or also the external GPS-antenna as shown in the picture?

I assume as it's the navigation kit it will include the GPS antenna as shown, i've ordered one as very cheap for an original HTC cradle. says they should have stock in 8 days so i'll let you know when i receive it

Although the external antenna is pictured, the description reads-
The GPS Navigation Upgrade Kit contains:
HTC TyTN II Car Charger
HTC TyTN II Gooseneck Device Holder
I take that to mean NO antenna. You really don't need it anyway. This looks like a nice rig. I wish they had a better description. I wonder if it is fixed or if it can rotate 90 degrees.
Good find, though. Thanks.

I was assuming as it's a navigation kit it would include the antenna as if it doesn't it's just a straight forward car kit.
just hoping i can take the mount off and somehow fix it to my proclip which is already in place, i'll let you know when it turns up and take a picture as the one shown is for a different model

Be carefully
In this picture is show an upgrade kit for P3600

Hi All
The picture for this kit has been updated
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159378
As shown, it doesn't include the GPS antenna.

Well the GPS antenna is lying next to it in that picture, you have the cradle, the car charger and the object on the right is the GPS antenna.
Had one ordered since December and now due in 5th FEB, if it ever turns up i'll let you know what the kit comes with

That kit looks pretty nice. I went the cheap route and got a universal one from ebay. It also comes with a charger.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAR-MOUNT-FOR-H...eZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
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spooki37 said:
Well the GPS antenna is lying next to it in that picture, you have the cradle, the car charger and the object on the right is the GPS antenna.
Had one ordered since December and now due in 5th FEB, if it ever turns up i'll let you know what the kit comes with
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What? If you mean this the thing on the right from the cradle is the windshield mount.
Or what did you mean?

Anyone that has this care to review it?

I've had one on order since december and the due date keeps getting moved back, it's saying now it's 5 days although i won't hold my breath.
I'll post some pictures etc when i receive it

jarkkoo said:
What? If you mean this the thing on the right from the cradle is the windshield mount.
Or what did you mean?
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I was about to point out the same thing !!!
That is just the windshield suction gooseneck to hold the cradle !!!
' buddy must be smoking something !!

UnicornKaz said:
I was about to point out the same thing !!!
That is just the windshield suction gooseneck to hold the cradle !!!
' buddy must be smoking something !!
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That's because expansys have changed the picture since i posted that comment, it used to have the gooseneck mount and then a GPS antenna lying by the side like this one
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151392

This kit was supplied with my TyTN II when I got my phone through Three Australia (without the GPS antenna). It's a good quality mount, and I have had no problems with the car charger (glows blue matching my dash colour ;p).
It's a really snug fit and easy to adjust from portrait to landscape depending on your preference, and the windscreen mount is very secure.
You can't slide the phone in with a case (although I don't have one, the slimline rubber cases *may* at a real pinch, but I wouldn't bet on it).
I'm happy with it - especially as it was thrown in by the dealer.

My kit turned up this morning, it's basically the herbert richter cradle with gooseneck mount and a HTC car charger which has a blue glowing HTC on it
The phone fits really nice in the cradle but you cannot slide it open to use the keyboard. All in all quite pleased as don't use the keyboard while driving anyway.

I got one of these from my carrier (3 australia) well. the charger is good & the mount sems to stick quite well to he windshield. i've gone through a few not so smooth stretches of road with out a problem. i am quite concerned about scratching the device though. as others have already mentioned, it's quite a tight snug fit, which is good for obvious reasons... the inside of the holder however is just naked plastic, no soft lining... is this going to cause scratches on the front of the phone with extended use? anyone wh has had one of these for a while care to comment?
also what are the chances of getting a seidio protected tytn ii into that holder? is there an alternative holder which will snap into the goose neck??

New use for Samsung Car Dock

Today I moved my car stereo lower in the dash and mounted my Samsung Tab car-dock in the original stereo location.
Took me all of about an hour, cost me $10 (in addition to the dock I already had). I am fairly pleased with it.
I was glad to find that I did not have to extend any of the wires going to the original car stereo. They were plenty long enough to put the stereo down in where the little pocket used to be. All I had to do was cut the back of the plastic pocket out, and use the stock bolts to bolt through the plastic in to the body of the stereo. Part one done...
Then I used a piece of 2 inch wide steel bent in to form as a bracket for the Samsung dock. I mounted the new bracket to the original stock stereo mounting bolts. Then I cut a piece of black plastic to entirely close off the double din opening. This was hot glued and epoxied in to place from the rear so it is nice and clean. Part two done.
I then had to cut the last portion of the Samsung Tab mounting arm off. All I needed was the small portion where the dock actually bolts to it. This allowed me to still use the swivel to get the right mounting angle. The ONLY issue I had was that I wanted to mount it close enough to the dash that I had to cut a notch in the stereo bezel to accommodate the power cord to the dock. Not a big issue, and from the driver side its not visible at all.
I then mounted the dock to the bracket through a small hole I cut in the piece of black plastic I had mounted.
Originally, the TAB was mounted via the dock on top of my dash. I like this position much better!!!
Here is the end product.
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Sorry, I meant to post this in accessories. Can a mod move it for me?

Does the tab tie into your stereo over bluetooth or a line out? Or do you just use it for navigation?

Works perfectly via bluetooth. I was having some skipping issues, but they were cleared up with the last update of Car Dock. They now turn off wi-fi when in dock, which is what was causing the issues.

Very nice setup. How does the navigation work on the SGT.? i.e. is there any delay or lag. are you on Edge when using the nav.?

StarLog said:
Very nice setup. How does the navigation work on the SGT.? i.e. is there any delay or lag. are you on Edge when using the nav.?
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Google Navigation works as well on the SGT as any other phone - better in fact due to the higher resolution of the Tab. Just needs a reasonable 3G signal - which isn't hard to find. For me it's the best satnav software out there.

I live in Southern CA, so there is no issue with getting a signal. The Navigation works perfectly for me. A couple years ago I spent $2000 for an indash navigation, DVD player. What a waste that was... Its amazing how technology has changed in just a couple years.
I now have full Internet, navigation, phone and multi-media capabilities in my dash AND its removable!

Very nice work. The scarf is a nice touch too.

interesting, Ive never thought of installing it there.

rangercaptain said:
Very nice work. The scarf is a nice touch too.
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Thanks... at least you didn't call it a handkerchief... You silly guy!

Hey op..
Do you have this connected to your radio or is it stand alone...
i want to do something similar but I want to use it as my stereo as well....
thanks
P.

He said he plays through bluetooth to his car speakers.
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Thanks I see I overlooked that...
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very very nice. I'm looking to do something similar in my old Corsa. What version of car dock is that?, look different to mine - i use the overcome rom

what app are you using there?

The Ap. is CarHome Ultra. Auto-launches when plugged in to the dock.

Thanks for sharing your DYI
Wow, it looks nice on your dashboard. I'll try to replicate this when the dock is available in my country (Thailand)

which car dock is it?
Hey guys,
I'd like to know which car-dock are you all referring to?
Thanks!

can you send a picture fo your dashboard dude?"i have the carkit but it asnnoys me on my glass.

ameer1367 said:
can you send a picture fo your dashboard dude?"i have the carkit but it asnnoys me on my glass.
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You cant see the two pictures in the original post?
Are you asking for a different angle? I dont think I understand...

A DHD GPS Solution( Radical and Ugly :( )

My DHD GPS contacts were broken when I tried to improve GPS function. So I used an electric wire( or any metalic wire) for antenna. I connected it to the broken position. And I made a hole over the flash cover. I made about 3 ~ 4 cm long wire come out of the hole. It works very well but ugly. Wire is flexible, you can hide it inside a jelly case, and you can take it out when necessary
Acutually no need to contact two points. Only one contact near to camera is needed. Here are some pictures instead of my poor english
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can you post more photos of the mod? I'm interested...

My another photos
You can use any conductive metalic wire for antenna.
View attachment 813848

Ugly indeed! :-\
Maybe you can mod that retractable telescopic old-style radio antenna thing on the phone casing. It'll give a retro look to the phone

if4ct0r said:
Ugly indeed! :-\
Maybe you can mod that retractable telescopic old-style radio antenna thing on the phone casing. It'll give a retro look to the phone
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I have hoped so. And some manufacturer might make a special flash cover capable of enhancing GPS performance.

TO the OP: How broken are the contacts? I also had GPS issues, then I read somewhere that you can drop on a ball of solder to fix this. Basically, the thickness of the solder ball forces contact with the antenna.
See pic:

trekkie0927 said:
TO the OP: How broken are the contacts? I also had GPS issues, then I read somewhere that you can drop on a ball of solder to fix this. Basically, the thickness of the solder ball forces contact with the antenna.
See pic:
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First I soldered them, but overheated to destroy the point on the cover So I created another solution. Anyway this works well. Somebody said the length of wire would be best if 9.5 cm because it fits the frequency of GPS signal. But I think it's too long to carry in my pocket. He suggested another length, 4.75cm ( 1/2 of 9.5 cm ).

What Watt soldering iron did you use?
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Why would you do something as ugly as this mod to your phone when you could at least hide the wire inside? Not to mention this mod has been posted and around for awhile. This is old news. And whoever told you 9.5cm or 4.7cm for antenna was pulling your leg.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318892

Agoattamer said:
Why would you do something as ugly as this mod to your phone when you could at least hide the wire inside? Not to mention this mod has been posted and around for awhile. This is old news. And whoever told you 9.5cm or 4.7cm for antenna was pulling your leg.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318892
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Well 4.7cm is the correct size for a quarter wave antenna. So that is correct.

GPS Accuracy 1 meter!
Yesterday on a moving( 88 km/h ) car.
I used about 5 cm long cable for GPS antenna replacement.

Do you have pictures of the inside connection to the GPS module ??

The inside connection to the GPS module.
I extracted a thin cable from a USB cable( including some thin cables inside).
I tied the cable to fix it tightly on the flash cover. And I made a hole over the cover.
The flash photo uploaded is an old one. I broke several covers : (
You can connect it to only single contact. But I think connecting two contacts would be better.
The cable is very thin, so you can hide it inside a jelly case. In my case, eiven if it is hidden inside, GPS signal can be detected( but accuracy is low then ).

My current cass with the GPS anttena.
It's a jelly case. I made a hole on the upper side of the case. Not very ugly, I think.

easy fix
Hey guy's,
Here is an easy fix download GPS status from market touch the menu button and select tools and select manage aGPS settings reset the data and select download restart your phone it worked for me got around 5 satellites in 5 seconds

But any software tweak is useless if you have connection problem... I tired every software, gps.conf file but eventually i ordered a replacement flash cover/gps antenna from ebay about 10$ with tools.

I don't know about u man but that really worked with my dhd

after using the sensation battery inside my desire hd, i'm curious about such mods, but i hope i don't have to use this one, because it's really ugly
but nice, really nice

jazon7 said:
after using the sensation battery inside my desire hd, i'm curious about such mods, but i hope i don't have to use this one, because it's really ugly
but nice, really nice
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It's very possible to put the wire inside the antenna cover and get almost the same performance with no external sign of modification.

True. there are different ways of hiding the antenna. You'd only loose maybe 3-8m of accuracy, but it's better then having a wire sticking out.

XTRONS® Pure Android 4.1.1

Anyone have comments or warnings about the single-din Android head unit here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0107L1XNY/
It is the D788A Model, with an "Mstar 786" processor, Android 4.1.1 and 1024x600 native display.
I am having to give up on the RoadNavi C315 (winCE) that I bought due to a slew of issues and problems (it's an utter piece of carpola).
Since I have a Fiat 500, it is a SINGLE din opening and very difficult and expensive to convert to dual din. Conversion requires cutting AC ductwork and buying a $200 kit to replace the AC vents with tiny vents on the sides. So I want to avoid that if I can. But single-DIN options are few and far between. The C315 I had before seemed perfect, but the software and hardware are trash.
There aren't many single DIN options, so.... There are a few with Android 4.4, but those have 800x480 resolution, so I would prefer this one despite the slightly older software.
Some questions on the Android 4.1.1 Mstar 786 systems:
1) Some reviews say the factory settings are locked and the passwords given on forums don't work. Manufacturer says this is to keep from damaging the unit. Can this be bypassed? Should I be worried if not?
2) Does this CPU/OS combo normally work with the Bluetooth stack for Torque Pro?
I couldn't find a thread on this model or processor - anything else anyone has to say about it?
I am not rich and already wasted nearly $400 on the C315. I probably won't get a fraction of that back selling it because it has a hardware audio issue. I bought a replacement board, that fixed the problem for two hours before it had the same problem. So I want to make sure I'm not hoodwinked by a piece of trash radio again.
Of course, Android is going to be a requirement. I looked at various MHL/Mirrorlink options and none of them are reliable. I'm sick as ****e of unreliable products.

Replying to my own post. Bad form, I know.
But, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528349
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From the looks of it, that's not a great radio. Lots of limitations... *sigh*... looks like I can't get a single DIN 1024x600 that's decent for my car.
May have to go with an 800x480...

lotherius said:
Replying to my own post. Bad form, I know.
But, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528349
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From the looks of it, that's not a great radio. Lots of limitations... *sigh*... looks like I can't get a single DIN 1024x600 that's decent for my car.
May have to go with an 800x480...
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What kind of car do you have?
Have you considered trying to make a custom bezel for a double din stereo install in it?
I have a 2004 Dodge Intrepid, which was never intended to have a double din head unit, and I was able to do this with it.
I grafted part of a bezel from a different vehicle that supported a double din into my cars original bezel.
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Hi
I know this is now an old thread, but I thought my reply might be useful for anyone lookning at this unit on ebay/aliexpress etc.
I own this unit and its very good (for the money). Good gps reception, good bluetooth and even fairly decent wifi. Its ugly as hell, but thats the main reason I chose it - its face-like-the-back-of-a-bus looks deter potential thieves from stealing it.
Install Navmii on it and its absolutely perfect for GPS navigation. It connects to your steering wheel controls and has loads of connections for speakers, amps, extra usb etc in the back. You can even connect up a reversing cam to it which will automatically change the screen when you put the car into reverse.
It has several different positions for the screen and it will remember your choice, so once you've found the position thats right for your vehicle, it will automatically go back to that position every time the screen opens until you decide to change it.
The only downside to this unit is the manufacturer. Dont expect any support at all from Xtrons as the standard response to any question is "contact your reseller for further advice", even if it was sold directly by them.
A lot of useful android features are locked down "for safety reason of drive"(...) with a pin which they will refuse to give you. Its 3368. Using that pin will not give you access to anything which can brick your unit, but does allow you to access the car settings menu so you can turn off the annoying beep-when-you-press-anything noise, change the car logo, access the equaliser and a host of other useful stuff.
Its got an ancient version of android on it, but it has the full play store and runs Chrome and Navmii perfectly, connects to my phone as soon as I get in the car and also lets me connect my raspberry pi via the aux video in so I have a dedicated trip recorder which is better than any dashcam on the market. Switching between apps is fairly quick and its very customisable, which makes using it whilst driving easy. It has 2 micro sd card slots, one purely for navigation maps and the other for expandable storage.
I wish there was a firmware update for it that I could trust but the only one xtrons have provided is for a double din unit and I'm not going to risk bricking mine until I get a copy of the current firmware as a backup.
I hope this helps anyone looking at this unit and wondering if its worth it. In my opinion, it is.
Ian

WIP: Custom Headunit building Nissan Qashqai J10

So long time lurker here, and probably in the wrong section, if so, really sorry and please move it to the correct section if needed. :angel:
I have been using an MTCB unit ( Hui Fei Type ) In my Nissan Note, tweaked it, upgraded it to android 6 and everything worked fine. Sold the car, sold the headunit. and now I have an Nissan Qashqai J10 (2009) .
This car has an pretty nice head unit in it, with navigation and rear cam feed like the one below :
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So removing this one and replacing it with something else is something I want to avoid. After some research I had fount out there are some models that have the head unit navigation display above the traditional headunit
This gave me some new opportunities and I went ahead and bought the parts needed :
Dashboard section on ebay including the top screen
7 Inch Display from AliExpress
USB Dab+ Adapter
USB GPS receiver
Development poard to solder parts on. with the same size as the raspberry pi
12V Relay to act as switch on key ignition
12V - 5V 3A Step down to get power from the car to the development board. ( 2 pcs )
original Nissan ISO wiring harness just in case for the parts
2 push buttons ( 1 - Latching as power switch for this head unit, 1 momentary for hard reset )
FM Transmitter ... (In hindsight I do not like this idea because someone else could possible listen to it if driving close to you..., going to use the AUX on the original head unit instead )
I already had an Raspberry Pi 3 B+ lying around here and wanted to use this but found out quickly enough that is not an option because I really want to use Android 7.1+
After some looking around I have to decide what to buy next :
Alpine64 ROCK64
Alpine64 ROCKPro64
Libre Computer - AML-S905X-CC (Le Potato)
The first and the latter are roughly Raspberry Clones and therefor will fit for sure in the reserved space behind the screen. The pro version is going to be probably to big and the extra compute power is not really necessary.
I already received the dashboard part including the top screen. Sadly the screen is not functioning and has some really specific connectors so I removed the original display from the case and build the AliExpress Display in the case. it fits almost perfectly but needs an extra bezel to fill up some small gaps. (pictures will follow)
After installing Raspbian on the raspberry and some frustrations with the 7 inch display (which worked good, but the touchpanel was broken and did not detect touch 10mm from the borders all around, I'm awaiting an new one at the moment )
The up comming week i have to wait for the majority of the ordered parts and will post updates ones I get them.

Dear Sebastiano,
May I ask you if you managed to succeed with this project? I have a Nissan QQ with the same version of screen on the top of my dashboard, and I would like to replace it with an Android unit, but I'm not sure which one would fit there, and if this is possible at all, so it would be a huge help to know how your project ended.