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News from OnePlus and Cyanogen on battery drain and new update

This is what Steve Kondik posted on OnePlus forums:
Just a quick update on the power issue in 30O..
Two issues that ended up in the build were identified and fixed. They weren't affecting everyone and were subject to hardware variations and timing, but our engineers worked quickly to get them resolved. The first issue was a very low-level system bus problem, while the second was a problem with how the proximity sensor is used to prevent false unlocks from gestures and double taps. We pride ourselves in the performance and low power consumption of 11S, and after these fixes our lab tests show improved numbers vs. 25R! This will go out as a small hotfix as soon as it's approved. Additionally, we are preparing another update in parallel that brings a few new features, a beautified lock screen, audio enhancements, polish on the new features in 30O, and of course bug fixes.
Both of these new builds are in the final testing and approval phases. I can't give any ETA because we are subject to third parties, but you should see the power hotfix in the next couple of days with the bigger update right on it's heels.
To ensure this doesn't happen again, we are bulking up our automated test systems to cover more cases, more often. Being a startup is both a blessing and a curse- while we can move fast on issues and updates, we are still building our automation and infrastructure. We depend on your feedback to tell us what we're doing right, as well as wrong! Additionally, we are working hard to reduce the time between updates even further so that they are more manageable.
Hang in there for just a bit and that unkillable battery will make a triumphant return.
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I dont have that issue, but hope it will help you guys that have it.

Nothing new on this right? Just checked the thread not long ago and it was still in testing.

It was post 4 days ago, nothing new?

It's an old post. Fix still under test and would be released when approved internally in CM. Been waiting for the hotfix since past few days.

This drain is so damn annoying. Been thinking of rolling back but really need the speaker phone fix that came in this update.
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cas8180 said:
This drain is so damn annoying. Been thinking of rolling back but really need the speaker phone fix that came in this update.
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Theres always custom roms
.. and yeah this status update has been out for a couple days now.

zephiK said:
Theres always custom roms
.. and yeah this status update has been out for a couple days now.
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Yeah i know...
but i wasn't posted here so i posted it...
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cas8180 said:
This drain is so damn annoying. Been thinking of rolling back but really need the speaker phone fix that came in this update.
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Ater two full days on 30O im seriously thinking about going back to 25R. I've gone from 48 hours between charges and 7 hours sot to 18 hours between charges an 3.5 hours sot. The sad part is im sure as soon as I revert the update will come out and Ill have to start over again. Im going to give it at leat one more day.

thez3ro said:
Yeah i know...
but i wasn't posted here so i posted it...
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I wouldn't have seen this if you didn't post it here, I for one greatly appreciate it. I check these forums often but I don't spend hardly any time over at opo forums.
Thanks!
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I am getting 7 hours of on screen time over an 18 hour time period. OPO is no LG Flex.
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26.2man said:
Ater two full days on 30O im seriously thinking about going back to 25R. I've gone from 48 hours between charges and 7 hours sot to 18 hours between charges an 3.5 hours sot. The sad part is im sure as soon as I revert the update will come out and Ill have to start over again. Im going to give it at leat one more day.
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I am in the exact same boat!
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cas8180 said:
I am in the exact same boat!
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I wonder if we go back to 25r if we will have to go to 30O then apply the new update or will they have a "new and improved" fixed 30O? BTW is your ability to have a different wallpaper on your lockscreen than on your home screen broken also?

I'm lucky if I can get 4 hours screen on time... Given I don't get good service for 8 hours, but still. I tried all the "fixes" out there. No luck.
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26.2man said:
I wonder if we go back to 25r if we will have to go to 30O then apply the new update or will they have a "new and improved" fixed 30O? BTW is your ability to have a different wallpaper on your lockscreen than on your home screen broken also?
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I am sure we will in my experience updates always tend to successive based on the previous rarely are they all inclusive.
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26.2man said:
I wonder if we go back to 25r if we will have to go to 30O then apply the new update or will they have a "new and improved" fixed 30O? BTW is your ability to have a different wallpaper on your lockscreen than on your home screen broken also?
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I can't make the wallpaper be my lock screen, which is sad :/
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bubblebuddyi said:
I'm lucky if I can get 4 hours screen on time... Given I don't get good service for 8 hours, but still. I tried all the "fixes" out there. No luck.
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Using the battery monitor widget I noticed my drain to be around 250ma with good signal and screen on, and well over 650ma when no signal. So keep in mind that lack of signal can triple your drain :/
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beastlykings said:
I can't make the wallpaper be my lock screen, which is sad :/
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Using the battery monitor widget I noticed my drain to be around 250ma with good signal and screen on, and well over 650ma when no signal. So keep in mind that lack of signal can triple your drain :/
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Thank you, I'm glad you said that when you did because I was just about to do a factory reset.. I'm going to try turning LTE off.
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bubblebuddyi said:
Thank you, I'm glad you said that when you did because I was just about to do a factory reset.. I'm going to try turning LTE off.
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Your welcome! Give it a go, I don't have any lte near me anyway so I turned it off too.
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Ugh when are they releasing it? Seriously everyone is getting affected by it...
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beastlykings said:
I wouldn't have seen this if you didn't post it here, I for one greatly appreciate it. I check these forums often but I don't spend hardly any time over at opo forums.
Thanks!
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For me the OPO forums are a little chaotic, too much thanking and begging for invites
Btw. Someone posted this as a workaround for the battery drain. Dont know how true it is but if you are willing to try...
Flash the Franco R13 kernel*
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Just pushed r13 which has a newer Touch Panel firmware from CM. Touch sensitivity seems much improved, which is a VERY welcomed plus. Also added support for PS3 controllers via OTG. I'll add MultiRom support on r14. Enjoy
Works fine with double tap to wake and capacitive buttons disabled. good battery life so far
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or try and flash AK CM11S version, maybe latest _31b14 w/o changing back to 25R or smth else, (just to give a try as it is easier to change the Kernel than the ROM (you know...restoring stuff ))

KitKat 4.4.4 Rollout

Looks like AT&T is not being the first to roll out the 4.4.4 update. I'm guessing it will be happening sooner than later.
Here is a list of the updates happening:
Android 4.4.4
HD voice Icon support
International Wi-Fi Calling support
Google Security Patches
Knox 2.0
Kids Mode
I got this from Samsung's website talking about Sprint:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?fm_seq=73981&faq_id=FAQ00057083
I also heard from rumors that they are planning to unlock our bootlooder. I wouldn't put to much weight in that though.
But, Knox 2.0? What is that?

I lost hope on a bootloader unlock
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too late.
i getting NoteEdge next month if she' out.

I don't think bootloader is in the firmware updates if it was I would think it would of been hacked buy now. I'm guessing we need to find a way to flash the bootloader it self
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I'm thinking it's locked down buy hardware
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lawalty said:
I also heard from rumors that they are planning to unlock our bootlooder.
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There's no way that's happening in a million years.

lawalty said:
Looks like AT&T is not being the first to roll out the 4.4.4 update. I'm guessing it will be happening sooner than later.
Here is a list of the updates happening:
Android 4.4.4
HD voice Icon support
International Wi-Fi Calling support
Google Security Patches
Knox 2.0
Kids Mode
I got this from Samsung's website talking about Sprint:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?fm_seq=73981&faq_id=FAQ00057083
I also heard from rumors that they are planning to unlock our bootlooder. I wouldn't put to much weight in that though.
But, Knox 2.0? What is that?
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Knox 2.0? The opposite of unlocked bootloader! ?
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zaptear said:
I don't think bootloader is in the firmware updates if it was I would think it would of been hacked buy now. I'm guessing we need to find a way to flash the bootloader it self
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I'm thinking it's locked down buy hardware
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Lol! Like if that's ever going to happen! If there was any possible way, wouldn't it be already done?

Ya I guess so I do know this is my last Samsung phone. Looking in to oneplus phones.
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Another thought is, since the new Note 4 is so close to the Note 3, as far as what we can do with it, I really don't see that much of a software update happening.
Think about it. Sammy's main goal is to make more $$ on the new hardware, so why invest more time andc $$ in an update?
Just a thought.

lawalty said:
Sammy's main goal is to make more $$ on the new hardware, so why invest more time andc $$ in an update?
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Supposedly they have to support us with updates and stuff for 18 months. The Note 3 has been out for almost a year, so we should still be getting 4.4.4 and L. I have a feeling they're going to skip 4.4.4 and go straight to L, which I will be avoiding at all costs.

Is L no good
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zaptear said:
Is L no good
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AT&T/Samsung updates go in the direction of maximum corporate security, so unless you're the network admin for some company, probably not. (They want to turn your phone into the company's phone, so if you're not in the business of buying your employer a phone that they allow you minimal use of, Samsung is no longer the phone to buy.
Maybe if they lose enough business, they'll change their policy.

Ya oneplus phone is what I'm thinking
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zaptear said:
Is L no good
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L= downfall of Android. Read up on it and you will see why. After the KitKat update fiasco earlier this year I've learned my lesson and plan to stay put on 4.4.2 until my Note 3 dies.

I'm thinking 4.4.4 sooner rather then later. I'm assuming several months before an "L" release.

D4nielC said:
I'm thinking 4.4.4 sooner rather then later. I'm assuming several months before an "L" release.
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This is what I'm going to go with. L is a long ways away for Samsung devices. Look how long 4.4.4 has been out and we still haven't seen it. I wish it was different and AT&T had speedy updates but sadly that's not the case.

Face_Plant said:
L= downfall of Android. Read up on it and you will see why. After the KitKat update fiasco earlier this year I've learned my lesson and plan to stay put on 4.4.2 until my Note 3 dies.
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I did a couple of Google searches and didn't come up with anything obvious (maybe cause I used Google search?). Can you provide a link, or shed some light on why you're saying this?
Will you be moving away from android once your Note dies?

undrwater said:
I did a couple of Google searches and didn't come up with anything obvious (maybe cause I used Google search?). Can you provide a link, or shed some light on why you're saying this?
Will you be moving away from android once your Note dies?
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I don't have a link but I read that samsung and android are going to partner up and integrate Knox into android. At least that what I think he means.
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undrwater said:
I did a couple of Google searches and didn't come up with anything obvious (maybe cause I used Google search?). Can you provide a link, or shed some light on why you're saying this?
Will you be moving away from android once your Note dies?
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I'm saying L= bad because I've read rumors about how Google will be incorporating Knox or something like it into the source code. It'll be locked down tighter than NC2 and may be the end of root and ROMs. Supposedly even the Nexus 5 guys had a hard time rooting the L developer preview.
I'll wait and see if the rumors about L are true before moving away from Android. There's no way I'd be caught dead with an iPhone and Windows phones don't appeal to me.
I'll see if I can get you some links after work.

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I'm saying L= bad because I've read rumors about how Google will be incorporating Knox or something like it into the source code. It'll be locked down tighter than NC2 and may be the end of root and ROMs. Supposedly even the Nexus 5 guys had a hard time rooting the L developer preview.
I'll wait and see if the rumors about L are true before moving away from Android. There's no way I'd be caught dead with an iPhone and Windows phones don't appeal to me.
I'll see if I can get you some links after work.
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Adding "Knox" to the search helped a bunch. Here's a pretty good article:
http://www.cso.com.au/article/550673/google_details_knox-inspired_enterprise_managed_profiles_android_l/
It looks as if Google may still try to lock the bootloader, just not through Knox.
Thanks!

New Update August 10th - Stagefright Patch

http://www.androidcentral.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-get-stagefright-fix-beginning-august-10
Seems the Idol 3 is receiving the Stagefright patch! I'm surprised Alcatel is actually keeping up with this phone and releasing needed updates. Now if only we could get Android 5.1 or even Android M.
For those who have rooted, I'm sure you will have to un-root in order to get this via OTA or follow famewolf's thread here.

Cool 5.1.1 would be nice as well
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brian117 said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-get-stagefright-fix-beginning-august-10
Seems the Idol 3 is receiving the Stagefright patch! I'm surprised Alcatel is actually keeping up with this phone and releasing needed updates. Now if only we could get Android 5.1 or even Android M.
For those who have rooted, I'm sure you will have to un-root in order to get this via OTA or follow famewolf's thread here.
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Once someone has updated if you are not rooted I'd gladly post the firmware to the thread mentioned.

I wonder if it's too much to hope for a fix to the issues dialing out via Google Voice?
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andyadler said:
I wonder if it's too much to hope for a fix to the issues dialing out via Google Voice?
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There are 3 different 6045i firmwares in the stock image thread. You could have backed up one at a time till you got one that worked with google voice and didn't have other issues.

But wouldn't that negate the positive results of the most recent update (improved DTTW, etc.)?
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brian117 said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-get-stagefright-fix-beginning-august-10
Seems the Idol 3 is receiving the Stagefright patch! I'm surprised Alcatel is actually keeping up with this phone and releasing needed updates. Now if only we could get Android 5.1 or even Android M.
For those who have rooted, I'm sure you will have to un-root in order to get this via OTA or follow famewolf's thread here.
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Why would you be surprised? It is stock Android with no carrier certification required. Just patch and go...

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But wouldn't that negate the positive results of the most recent update (improved DTTW, etc.)?
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Depends on your priorities...I for one have no problem using hangout dialer for the calls I want to make over data which still works fine.

if they could fix the lags too
i was wondering, if we can't get ota update is it still possible to use the file update while being rooted?

hope this don't cause lags.. had the opposite result the last time I've updated..it was a mess

Well, I also use Hangouts Dialer and agree it's not a huge imposition. Still, no other handset I've ever used has had this bug, and I'd like the option of using the native dialer with GV. Regards from New Orleans...A.
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Update: Alcatel has announced, via rep Jason Gerdon, that the upcoming update will include a fix for the Google Voice issue (and SMS time stamp inconsistencies).
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andyadler said:
Well, I also use Hangouts Dialer and agree it's not a huge imposition. Still, no other handset I've ever used has had this bug, and I'd like the option of using the native dialer with GV. Regards from New Orleans...A.
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Off topic. But how do you like or compare to the blu life one 2015?

I like the Blu Life One LTE quite a bit. Bought it for $99 off Amazon during a pre-order promotion, and have been using out to compare various carriers alongside my Idol 3. Considering that it has only 1 gig of RAM, it's remarkably smooth. Very bright 720p display, good battery life. A paltry 8g of onboard storage, but I'm an app minimalist, and it does take an optional SD card. Dual SIM capability which has come in handy, though you must choose between SD card or SIM 2.
The Idol 3 is considerably more powerful (600-class Snapdragon versus 400; 2 gigs of RAM, bigger, full HD display, etc.). Covers more LTE bands, including Band 12, which is important for T-Mobile users like myself. Substantially better speakers.
I'm somewhat of a phone hobbyist, and have been playing with a number of inexpensive handsets lately (these two and a Lumia 640 -- amazing phone for $100 or less). I've gained new respect for this class of handset. See little or no need to pay flagship prices. But I don't game, so don't tax a CPU as some other users might.
I've been using an HTC One M7 on Verizon, but an going to move to T-Mobile. Coverage is solid here in New Orleans, and for my family (four of us) it's vastly less expensive, with vastly more data.
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andyadler said:
Update: Alcatel has announced, via rep Jason Gerdon, that the upcoming update will include a fix for the Google Voice issue (and SMS time stamp inconsistencies).
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Do you have a source for that bit of news? Are there any other fixes coming besides Stagefright, GV, and SMS timestamp issues?
Nevermind, found it. Source of his posting here.
Hi All --
Wanted to let you guys know a new software update for IDOL 3 users will be released on or around August 10. This update will initially be available to IDOL 3 customers in the U.S. and will address fixes for Google Voice and SMS time stamp issues experienced by some users, as well as a Google security patch for the Stagefright vulnerability. For IDOL 3 customers in Canada, we are working with our carrier partners and hope to have an availability update for this very shortly.
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Posted a thread that should be useful to the folks who plan to revert to stock to install the update. http://forum.xda-developers.com/ido...e-custom-update-zips-to-t3175068?goto=newpost
I plan to give it a try and if it works I'll TRY to capture the 6045i update url as I did the previous updates..(I use a transparent squid proxy that all devices in my house go through to get to the internet. It allows me to intercept the url)..if I can get the update.zip downloaded I will make it available and perhaps some users will be able to sideload the update with less hassle.

I plan to give it a try and if it works I'll TRY to capture the 6045i update url as I did the previous updates..(I use a transparent squid proxy that all devices in my house go through to get to the internet. It allows me to intercept the url)..if I can get the update.zip downloaded I will make it available and perhaps some users will be able to sideload the update with less hassle.
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That would be awesome. I'm in Canada and don't want to have to wait for my carrier to 'Ok' an update for a major security issue like this.

If that could be done for 6045k since I saw one user on this forum from Portugal with K model and 01003 update..
Meaning the update is pushed different from region to region..
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Once someone who is un-rooted receives notification of this update, would you please post here letting us know the update has started to roll out? I don't think rooted users will get a notification of the update since we can't even check for one without getting a notification of being rooted.

brian117 said:
Once someone who is un-rooted receives notification of this update, would you please post here letting us know the update has started to roll out? I don't think rooted users will get a notification of the update since we can't even check for one without getting a notification of being rooted.
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So if I unroot to get this update, am I even going to be able to reroot?
I was really hoping I wouldn't have to mess around with anything more on this phone until CM is out for it.

dennygreen said:
So if I unroot to get this update, am I even going to be able to reroot?
I was really hoping I wouldn't have to mess around with anything more on this phone until CM is out for it.
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Pretty sure you will still be able to re-root.
I can confirm that using the Full Unroot method via SuperSU works on this phone. I just ran it out of curiosity and followed the steps and SuperSU is gone from the app drawer and I am able to check for updates. See screenshots:

I recently received new Note fe

Hello everyone I got my hands on note fe and out of the box it's 7.0 it very smooth ans well going later I have received an oreo update I downloaded it but haven't install it yet I usually cautious about updates especially for a device not well known or not very popular my question is would you guys recommend updating? Model number
SM-N935F/DS thanks alot

Battery life is alot better with Nougat. Oreo builds have a bad problem with "cell standby" battery drain. So if you don't mind Nougat I would stay with that.
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I'd like to update my post and say it went very well and I had no battery issue whatsoever. I think everything is manageable with greenfiy or stock battery manager I really loved it and can wait for the P.
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Monzer_ said:
I'd like to update my post and say it went very well and I had no battery issue whatsoever. I think everything is manageable with greenfiy or stock battery manager I really loved it and can wait for the P.
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No P for u

No. P is coming for FE.

I read so where recently we are going to receive P as some users already recicved certified update or something like that.
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I read so where recently we are going to receive P as some users already recicved certified update or something like that.
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Lol. Samsung already confirmed Note FE to Android Pie.

I hope this is true since I just bought a Note FE 4days ago.
SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE

P is coming check your samsung member app, you can see there

Congratulations Android P is here,[emoji322][emoji253][emoji323][emoji817]
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Android 10 Beta

Anyone have any idea when we may get a Leaked of Android 10 Beta, since T-Mobile is working on it I read???

It may not leak, who knows. The official betas only work with the Google pixel which is out already. To me, Android 10 sucks as it's all swipe gestures to do stuff, so I am not in a hurry to get it.

tailgunner9 said:
Anyone have any idea when we may get a Leaked of Android 10 Beta, since T-Mobile is working on it I read???
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Sorry bro, but T-Mobile is no longer working on the Android 10. They had marked the Android 10 update under the 'testing' phase earlier, but it turns out it was a mistake as yesterday, they fixed by marking the update to be under 'Development' phase, meaning Samsung is still building the update and that they are yet to receive it. (Source)
Sad.

There's been a beta program with every other major release for Samsung, why not 10

StoneyJSG said:
It may not leak, who knows. The official betas only work with the Google pixel which is out already. To me, Android 10 sucks as it's all swipe gestures to do stuff, so I am not in a hurry to get it.
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Sounds like iOS from Apple phones to me with Swipe.

tailgunner9 said:
Sounds like iOS from Apple phones to me with Swipe.
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You still have the option for buttons. If your upgrading from 9 with buttons enabled it will stay after update. Otherwise you have the option during setup and in settings.
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You still have the option for buttons. If your upgrading from 9 with buttons enabled it will stay after update. Otherwise you have the option during setup and in settings.
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This is good news! I thought on screen buttons were completely removed from Android 10 due to a YouTube demo I watched. I gotta have my buttons!

StoneyJSG said:
This is good news! I thought on screen buttons were completely removed from Android 10 due to a YouTube demo I watched. I gotta have my buttons!
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Yep me also StoneyJSG.

So looking at the ota server log its looking like they are currently working on android 10 update.
The "o=10" part is usually what marks the android version the firmware is for. (i cant confirm that but based on previous updates listed that number has reflected the android version)
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/SPR/SM-G975U/version.test.xml
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