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[Q] Nexus 7 screen diamond-ing

Hello, I recently bought a nexus 7 and in general I'm pretty pleased with it. However, just today which is about 4days after purchase I realized that my screen has little diamonds that were visible at a certain angle and most obvious when the screen is off. My question is whether this behavior is normal and whether I should take it for repair since it's still under warranty. It's not rooted and there isn't a screen protector for more information. Thanks.
Edit : diamonds are 5mm each

orphamiel said:
Hello, I recently bought a nexus 7 and in general I'm pretty pleased with it. However, just today which is about 4days after purchase I realized that my screen has little diamonds that were visible at a certain angle and most obvious when the screen is off. My question is whether this behavior is normal and whether I should take it for repair since it's still under warranty. It's not rooted and there isn't a screen protector for more information. Thanks.
Edit : diamonds are 5mm each
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are you able to provide a photo? im not sure i understand.
Do you mean as in its like theres marks on the glass?

Kearkan said:
are you able to provide a photo? im not sure i understand.
Do you mean as in its like theres marks on the glass?
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Under certain light conditions there appears to be marks in the glass and it's all diamonds tesselated together. A photo doesn't show anything but ill be uploading one in a while

I've never noticed anything like that.
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Doesn't show any of the diamond-ing I saw but here it is. I could only see it when there were many lights around and only when viewing at an certain angle.
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i dont think images will allow us to see the problem, maybe even point them out with a stylus ,you could use a phone to make a video panning around views, to clearly display the problem and youtube it here :good:

yes this is normal..... no worries.. new screens usually have this
you only get to see them under certain life conditions and I'm pretty sure these will fade away with wear & tear.. I used to see them when I bought my N7.... not anymore today... enjoy them

jakeellis01 said:
yes this is normal..... no worries.. new screens usually have this
you only get to see them under certain life conditions and I'm pretty sure these will fade away with wear & tear.. I used to see them when I bought my N7.... not anymore today... enjoy them
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Alright. Thanks for the info.

I think you're just seeing the digitizer.. Pretty normal to see it under certain conditions. Mainly with the screen off though. You shouldnt really see anything with the screen on.

Screen has a yellow tint

I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.

RMA

A more ironic comparison could never have been made. LOL!

mk92595 said:
RMA
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I have a feeling that will ultimately be necessary. It just sucks because I REALLY don't feel like dealing with the hassle.

Thats the only benefit of Google Play.
You got your phone first but if I have to RMA (If I ever get the phone) they will send me a replacement first.

Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.

Hope this isn't by design. With LCDs, this could be a bad backlight. Color temp isn't controlled by a backlight with AMOLED, though, so I'm not sure how this could be a hardware problem. More than one phone has been released where manufacturers tried the "warm" color temp route before customers complained and they patched a cooler temp. Even iPhone went through it.

selayan said:
Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.

bholyk said:
I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
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Most people prefer a cooler display. If it's just the color profile, it'll be fixed by someone in a matter of days. The plus of an open phone.

elkay said:
The plus of an open phone.
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Amen to that

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.

I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.

Tsukasa Buddha said:
I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
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It's usually done at the kernel level, but could be made to be adjusted outside of hardcoded settings if coded to do so.

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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Agreed. Looks like the N6 is more color accurate and the 1plus1 looks blue

djkinetic said:
I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.

bholyk said:
I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.

bholyk said:
I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol

hitzand said:
Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I was thinking the same thing but when I read about it online it said that most of the time if it is a glue issue then the yellowing is more splotchy and not an even full screen distribution. But either way I will give it some time to see what happens

elkay said:
They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Good to know, thanks

burn in already

ive had the phone for a week and today i just noticed some burn in where the nav bar is. its faint but definately noticable when on homescreen or anytime the navbar isnt black, the whole are is slightly brighter. anyone else getting this already?

Pictures?

trying to capture it now, but all i have is my old htc one m7's camera and its not liking taking pictures of lit up screen. also while trying to get picture i just noticed on the lockscreen i can see the outlines of the triangle and square nav buttons.

damnimwhite118 said:
trying to capture it now, but all i have is my old htc one m7's camera and its not liking taking pictures of lit up screen. also while trying to get picture i just noticed on the lockscreen i can see the outlines of the triangle and square nav buttons.
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That's awful. How did you manage to burn in the screen so quickly though? (assuming you've had it for a few days/weeks)
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msal said:
That's awful. How did you manage to burn in the screen so quickly though? (assuming you've had it for a few days/weeks)
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i have no idea, its not like ive been on non stop or anything either and ive had brightness at around 50%. this is really irritating considering its only been week though. also ill have to post pics tomorrow when i can get ahold of an actual camera my htc ones is poop and jst makes a fuzzy mess when trying to capture it. just watched the video, that is exactly what i have. wish I hadn't watched it though, since now that I looked at the status bar I notice it there too.

This is going to be a big problem for Motorola. Not seeing this yet on mine but with only a couple days left to return it I will be looking carefully. Thanks for the heads-up.

I finally had my mind made up to get this phone...I am definitely going to have to rethink that decision!

I have the same thing happening to mine. Very faintly on my device. I'm floored that its happening already. My game plan is to let it get really bad over the next year and before the warranty runs out force a replacement if it gets any worse.

cmdauria said:
I finally had my mind made up to get this phone...I am definitely going to have to rethink that decision!
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same thing here. but could this problem be just merely defective unit(s) ?
I'm utterly disappointed with this news :crying:

Nothing here yet. Burn in was the one thing I disliked about my Nexus One...

Gonna use mine for 6 months and jump it for the G4 more than likely anyways.
This problem sucks for the people that buy it to use for a longer period.
G3

You mean its wrong to expect a high end device to not have any defect for more than 6 months? If that is the case for this phone, better to just avoid than.

No not at all. I mean it sucks period.. No device in this day and age should suffer from this. It won't bother me as much because I switch devices every so often. But for the people that don't, they pretty much paid high dollar for this..
G3

People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess

italia0101 said:
People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess
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That sucks. I haven't noticed it on my Nexus 6, but I have the 1 yr manufacturer warranty and I bought a warranty through Squaretrade so I should be good. My friend at work who sits next to me has the Moto X 2014 and i'll be sure to mention it to him so he can keep an eye out for it.

italia0101 said:
People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess
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She also did mention that the Moto X she only uses it for reviews and before that she barely used it. I had mine since monday (5 days) and while I'm not a heavy screen on user, I'm not seeing anything yet. Like others have said, if and when it gets noticeable, I'll just call my carrier and have it replaced (not a big deal).

This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?

Pilz said:
This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
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Try not to leave a static image on the screen for too long?
Give this a read : http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s4-screen-burn-in-and-ghosting

italia0101 said:
Try not to leave a static image on the screen for too long?
Give this a read : http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s4-screen-burn-in-and-ghosting
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So what about battery saver? Having a orange nav and status bar seems to be counterproductive on this phone.

Pilz said:
This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
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Cheap amoled panels. Motorola probably bargain binned it. Samsung probably uses the highest quality ones in their devices and then sells based on the quality of the panel.

Samsung S7 EDGE BACKGROUND PROBLEM

I JUST INSTALL NEW FIRMWARE WITH ODION AND SOME ADS BACKGROUND PICTURES IS THERE I CAN'T REMOVE IT IS THERE ANY WAY TO REMOVE THIS PICTURES IT'S ALWAYS ON THE SCREEN
EVAN IN DOWNLOAD MODE IT'S STILL THERE
IM NEW USER AND XDA FORUM DOES'T LET ME TO ADD PICTURES
prntscr. com/cn7t1f
PLS HELP

xmexpi said:
I JUST INSTALL NEW FIRMWARE WITH ODION AND SOME ADS BACKGROUND PICTURES IS THERE I CAN'T REMOVE IT IS THERE ANY WAY TO REMOVE THIS PICTURES IT'S ALWAYS ON THE SCREEN
EVAN IN DOWNLOAD MODE IT'S STILL THERE
IM NEW USER AND XDA FORUM DOES'T LET ME TO ADD PICTURES
prntscr. com/cn7t1f
PLS HELP
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That looks like screen burn. is it always the same image in the background?

Woah okay, if it's there in download mode I suspect a burn-in, but I'm not sure whether that's possible on an OLED screen. You might want to hand back your device depending on how long you have had it for.

yeah the problem is I can't return it back I never see something like this before

Neorpowa said:
Woah okay, if it's there in download mode I suspect a burn-in, but I'm not sure whether that's possible on an OLED screen. You might want to hand back your device depending on how long you have had it for.
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In fact, (SUPER[AM-])OLED screens are infamous for getting burn-in and image retention.

nitrous² said:
In fact, (SUPER[AM-])OLED screens are infamous for getting burn-in and image retention.
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Allright! I thought that was limited to LCD

Neorpowa said:
Allright! I thought that was limited to LCD
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No, burn-in or retention is very, very rare on LCD panels. It can happened, though. Google LG G4 screen burn in and you'll find tons of reports. My G4 had massive burn-ins.

nitrous² said:
No, burn-in or retention is very, very rare on LCD panels. It can happened, though. Google LG G4 screen burn in and you'll find tons of reports. My G4 had massive burn-ins.
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Allright, my old moto 360 had massive burn-in too, stupid persistent charging screen..

Problem with Pixel XL screen on low brightness (mura effect)

Hi guys,
I am new here, my name is marc and i was an apple fanboy not long ago.
I bought the new Pixel XL. I did not see that in the first week, but yesterday i found someting. I can't be the only one to have this little flaw.
I was in my bed checking some dark (dark i mean not terrorist and sh** lol dark gray dark) website with the brightness low and the night mode turned on. I saw two dark (black line on dark grey) line in the bottom of my phone. When i turn the light of the display a little bit on and they dissapear. They are not easy to catch in picture with my camera because we can see it only with no brightness in the display. I googled it and i found some lookalike issue called mura effect. (Problem of fabrication of amoled screen when low voltage dont turn on pixels.)
I wanna now should i get worried, i saw that many amoled displays have this flaw that is innerant because of the fabric technique? Do those line will grow up with time? Am i the only one with pixel that have this problem, maybe you just didint see it and now you will pay attention (mouahahah ocd spoiler alert)? Is there a fix for this problem?
Keep me posted if you have the same issue with the pixel or other amoled phone as i dont want to be alone in this dark darker screen lol

Marghost said:
Hi guys,
I am new here, my name is marc and i was an apple fanboy not long ago.
I bought the new Pixel XL. I did not see that in the first week, but yesterday i found someting. I can't be the only one to have this little flaw.
I was in my bed checking some dark (dark i mean not terrorist and sh** lol dark gray dark) website with the brightness low and the night mode turned on. I saw two dark (black line on dark grey) line in the bottom of my phone. When i turn the light of the display a little bit on and they dissapear. They are not easy to catch in picture with my camera because we can see it only with no brightness in the display. I googled it and i found some lookalike issue called mura effect. (Problem of fabrication of amoled screen when low voltage dont turn on pixels.)
I wanna now should i get worried, i saw that many amoled displays have this flaw that is innerant because of the fabric technique? Do those line will grow up with time? Am i the only one with pixel that have this problem, maybe you just didint see it and now you will pay attention (mouahahah ocd spoiler alert)? Is there a fix for this problem?
Keep me posted if you have the same issue with the pixel or other amoled phone as i dont want to be alone in this dark darker screen lol
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Dang man! You are indeed a jerk! Haha, no I'm serious. I just checked it out and I get the same thing. Sometimes the lines if you look hard enough they'll flicker too. Not cool man. Now I feel as if something is wrong with the screen. The colors already drive me a little nuts as they're a bit oversaturated compared to lcd and retina displays. Now I'm gonna look for these lines all the time. Thanks bro

Ahahah sorry mate XD
i didnt see them flicker or move at all here just standing and waiting for me to see them again
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If anyone is interested about an update i chatted with a rep of Google today. I am waiting an email who Will explain to me howto ship or send back the device to a Google store. This is a known issue i am not crazy hehe

Marghost said:
If anyone is interested about an update i chatted with a rep of Google today. I am waiting an email who Will explain to me howto ship or send back the device to a Google store. This is a known issue i am not crazy hehe
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I spoke with them also and they told me that it's only when on it's lowest brightness setting and nothing can be done as it's a software issue and not hardware. I'm starting to think they gave me the middle finger without me even knowing it. Haha

schwem said:
I spoke with them also and they told me that it's only when on it's lowest brightness setting and nothing can be done as it's a software issue and not hardware. I'm starting to think they gave me the middle finger without me even knowing it. Haha
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Ahahah yes it seems like they bull****ed you

Marghost said:
Ahahah yes it seems like they bull****ed you
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So what do you suppose I do now that we know it's a problem? Should I keep explaining to them that it's a problem? Thanks man

Me i was clear i said to them my brand new 1k phone that i Will keep for at least 2 years is defect. I trusted their product this is a build flaw. I was clear that i want them to fix it. Try to be direct and say you trusted them with your new phone. Keep me posted me im waiting for the send back instructions

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Me i was clear i said to them my brand new 1k phone that i Will keep for at least 2 years is defect. I trusted their product this is a build flaw. I was clear that i want them to fix it. Try to be direct and say you trusted them with your new phone. Keep me posted me im waiting for the send back instructions
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Sounds good. Looks like I just need to be persistent and adamant toward the fact that it is a 1k phone and this issue is, or at the very least, appearsrs to be hardware related. I too plan to keep the device for at least 2 years and if the hardware is already suffering a defect than I could only imagine how bad it will get from repetitive use. Thanks again. I'll keep you posted and let you know what they say when I speak to them again.

My pixel XL is just fine, suffering from none of the shenanigans that the others are
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MLGquickscoper said:
My pixel XL is just fine, suffering from none of the shenanigans that the others are
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Well, good for you lucky guy you! Google's trying to tell me it's normal for amoled's. Hah, it is normal for defective amoled's but not properly working amoled's. I am about to give them what for and then ask politely for an rma.

schwem said:
Well, good for you lucky guy you! Google's trying to tell me it's normal for amoled's. Hah, it is normal for defective amoled's but not properly working amoled's. I am about to give them what for and then ask politely for an rma.
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The key is to be polite
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They asked me to take some pictures it was pain in the as*. I share them with yall. Google said Will send me a box to replace it.

Marghost said:
They asked me to take some pictures it was pain in the as*. I share them with yall. Google said Will send me a box to replace it.
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If they ask me to do so I'm not sure I have anything other than my Pixel that will capture it. I literally have nothing with a decent camera aside from my Pixel XL. Hmmm.... What to do....

Ask a friend or a parent with with an s7 or an iPhone lol. My father iPhone6 did the job. My Old s4 didint work to low rez. I Guess.

schwem said:
Well, good for you lucky guy you! Google's trying to tell me it's normal for amoled's. Hah, it is normal for defective amoled's but not properly working amoled's. I am about to give them what for and then ask politely for an rma.
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Sh*t, my pixel developed these symptoms. Anyway I have an RMA unit on the way. It's nice that they send u the new phone first, so you don't have to go without a phone, which is nice
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I find the lowest to still be too bright on most phones, the pixel xl included. I use an app called iris mini. There's a free version. It greatly lowers the brightness and red shifts the screen and in the week I've had the phone, I haven't noticed this issue of the mura effect. Give that app a shot next time you read in the dark. It might help.
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