ive had the phone for a week and today i just noticed some burn in where the nav bar is. its faint but definately noticable when on homescreen or anytime the navbar isnt black, the whole are is slightly brighter. anyone else getting this already?
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trying to capture it now, but all i have is my old htc one m7's camera and its not liking taking pictures of lit up screen. also while trying to get picture i just noticed on the lockscreen i can see the outlines of the triangle and square nav buttons.
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trying to capture it now, but all i have is my old htc one m7's camera and its not liking taking pictures of lit up screen. also while trying to get picture i just noticed on the lockscreen i can see the outlines of the triangle and square nav buttons.
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That's awful. How did you manage to burn in the screen so quickly though? (assuming you've had it for a few days/weeks)
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That's awful. How did you manage to burn in the screen so quickly though? (assuming you've had it for a few days/weeks)
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i have no idea, its not like ive been on non stop or anything either and ive had brightness at around 50%. this is really irritating considering its only been week though. also ill have to post pics tomorrow when i can get ahold of an actual camera my htc ones is poop and jst makes a fuzzy mess when trying to capture it. just watched the video, that is exactly what i have. wish I hadn't watched it though, since now that I looked at the status bar I notice it there too.
This is going to be a big problem for Motorola. Not seeing this yet on mine but with only a couple days left to return it I will be looking carefully. Thanks for the heads-up.
I finally had my mind made up to get this phone...I am definitely going to have to rethink that decision!
I have the same thing happening to mine. Very faintly on my device. I'm floored that its happening already. My game plan is to let it get really bad over the next year and before the warranty runs out force a replacement if it gets any worse.
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I finally had my mind made up to get this phone...I am definitely going to have to rethink that decision!
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same thing here. but could this problem be just merely defective unit(s) ?
I'm utterly disappointed with this news :crying:
Nothing here yet. Burn in was the one thing I disliked about my Nexus One...
Gonna use mine for 6 months and jump it for the G4 more than likely anyways.
This problem sucks for the people that buy it to use for a longer period.
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You mean its wrong to expect a high end device to not have any defect for more than 6 months? If that is the case for this phone, better to just avoid than.
No not at all. I mean it sucks period.. No device in this day and age should suffer from this. It won't bother me as much because I switch devices every so often. But for the people that don't, they pretty much paid high dollar for this..
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People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess
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People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
will have to see i guess
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That sucks. I haven't noticed it on my Nexus 6, but I have the 1 yr manufacturer warranty and I bought a warranty through Squaretrade so I should be good. My friend at work who sits next to me has the Moto X 2014 and i'll be sure to mention it to him so he can keep an eye out for it.
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People adore the Moto X right, and from that video she says it exhibits the same sort of burn in... not saying its a good thing , of course not, but it depends how far it progresses , she had her Moto X for quite a bit longer and the burn in wasn't noticeable unless you really looked for it .
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She also did mention that the Moto X she only uses it for reviews and before that she barely used it. I had mine since monday (5 days) and while I'm not a heavy screen on user, I'm not seeing anything yet. Like others have said, if and when it gets noticeable, I'll just call my carrier and have it replaced (not a big deal).
This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
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This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
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Try not to leave a static image on the screen for too long?
Give this a read : http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s4-screen-burn-in-and-ghosting
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Try not to leave a static image on the screen for too long?
Give this a read : http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s4-screen-burn-in-and-ghosting
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So what about battery saver? Having a orange nav and status bar seems to be counterproductive on this phone.
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This make me worried. I've had AMOLED phones before (Note 3, S3,S5) but I've never had any burn in. Is there a way to avoid it?
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Cheap amoled panels. Motorola probably bargain binned it. Samsung probably uses the highest quality ones in their devices and then sells based on the quality of the panel.
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I have my Galaxy Note for 10 weeks and after using it always with 100% brightness there are aging effects.
Specially at blue backgrounds, but also at white and gray I can see the home screen icons, the clock and some buttons from jelly defense (I played jelly defense 3 weeks daily 2 hours) shining darker. (you can see it on the photo)
Now my Galaxy Note is in service for screen changing.
But what can I do in the future to avoid this aging effects? 80% brightness, 90% brightness?
Samsung didn't know this problems (I'll not believe it).
Has anyone practical experience with this problem?
Typically Blue pixels age the fastest. So pick a warm/red background. Avoid 100% brightness. Use auto if possible. Avoid leave screen on for prolonged period. Avoid static text or icon on the screen for too long. Basically the same care you would do to a Plasma TV except even the plasma TV screen(around 80,000 to 100,000 hrs) lasts 10 times longer than the AMOLED screen (estimated around 10,000 to 20,000 hrs).
Looks like you've discovered amoleds dirty little secret. I avoid pixel burnout by using launchers that auto hide the notification bar as well as browsers that allow you to hide the navigation bar such as opera. Opera let's you browse in fill screen mode.
I often refrain from using apps that show static images for long periods of time. I try to use the browser for everything that can be done through the regular Web portal of a site.
There is no way of getting around static images in apps unless the Dev accounts for it. Some devs are aware of amoled burn out and have options to hide navigation bars.
Ultimately you have to be mindful of static images and make sure to either avoid them on your screen for prolonged periods of time or remember to rotate your screen.
This is why I'm not looking forward to virtual buttons on ICS. It will destroy amoled screens for sure. Hopefully Samsung will retain physical button(s)
10 weeks is a pretty short life time, My friend's Nexus One (1yr++) does not have the very slightest hint of screen aging why my the galaxy S2 that I used for just 2 months already had the AM/PM burned in.
Its normal for OLED screens to age but it should not be this fast, this is probably why apple is not looking into OLED screens as the quality and or lifespan could be problematic.
There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.
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There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.
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like the part where you say "noticeable"
no matter how much you try to take care of it. It will happen. Its already there. (Depends to which degree)
My advice apart those ones about hiding the element that are always present.
Do not look for a screen burn in. Or do not look at the ****ty quality of the AMOLED. When you would look on for example on grey/ brown background easiest to spot when going to the marker you would notice the differences between the different parts of the screen. Its not perfectly even from the time its build. The color is displayed in different shades usually presenting itself in "lines".
Had my Note for 1 hour and I noticed it. Brand new.
But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality
When I say 'noticeable', I meant to use screen test patterns. Last time I did that with my Galaxy S, I don't see any burn in with the test patterns at all. But I agree one should not purposfully sort after the burn in. It will always be there. But I also don't need live in panic. The great contrast of the screen (or infinite black) outweights any shortcomings it has. Side by side with an iPhone 4/4s, I simply can't stand the foggy looking screen of the LCD on iPhones. Every iPhone owners I encounter liked my SAMOLE screen better.
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But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
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Hello fellow Galaxy S owner, This is the phone that brought up my standards and expectation for a SAMOLED device. I never saw any lines/uneven screen brightness and other garbage on my Galaxy S, even on greys. So this has brought up my expectation for a very high level which was crushed by the Galaxy Note's screen.
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I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality
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Good for you, I bought the device as a while package with the top concern about screen build quality and as an HD playback device which it does not meet the purpose
Just a quick tip I picked up from someone else on this site (I forget now who it was, sorry). Change your clock from 12 to 24 hour every now and then (and visa versa), it shifts all the icons along a little
This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.
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This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.
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In terms of lifespan, LCDs still trump amoleds. That's a fact you'll have to live with.
No screen technology is perfect. SAMOLED for the moment has the problem that pixels decrease in brightness with ussage. So try to minimize the amount of light you get off the screen. That will also give you more battery life.
Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it. Of course if you spend 3 hours a day on a game with static icons and menus, that will wear some pixels more than others and you'll end up with something like the OP.
If you go looking for small variations of color, you're going to find them. But the superior brightness and contrast of a SAMOLED screen wins me over. Even when I know its effemeral and will degrade with time. But anyway, who keeps a phone more than 2 years?
Yeah, but I just found this information for the first time today, which is why I'm so depressed. I'm a digital artist so having a nice little on-the-go sketchpad has me super excited, but also worried because of the screen. Expansys tells me there's a 2 year warranty, but I don't know how that would work on an international phone if the screen goes bad...
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vcespon : Yeah, I normally keep the brightness on my Atrix down quite low anyways. The max brightness setting is *blindingly* bright. As for the 'who keeps a phone more then 2 years", I had my iphone 3gs for quite awhile thank you very much. That and if I spend 600-700 bucks on this baby I want it to last! If I get at the very least a year to a year and a half out of the screen I'll be somewhat happy, though closer to 2 would be better obviously. I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?
I would also try using black backgrounds or dark themes on as many apps as possible also. Like tapatalk or k9 for instance.
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I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.
Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.
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Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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You worry too much. And you do not even have that phone yet.
First of all not sure how its in your country, but here you can return in if you dont like it in a week I think.
Also if it becomes really apparent you really can go to a service center. I do not remember someone saying that samsung refused to change the screen.
Also I was ranting here already a year ago about the Galaxy S. I hate SAMOLED soo much since I got the SGS (18 months ago). I own an iPhone 4 and love retina and SLCD. And yet bought the Galaxy Note as well (despite the fact I knew how faulty it will be and how I will hate it )
Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.
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Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.
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All oled displays suffer from amoled burn out. Not much you can do.
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Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it.
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Here you can see my homescreen. There is already white text on black background.
But I can see the shadows of the big clock and all icons. The shadows are the white parts of the homescreen; for example the "S" of my S-Banking-App is very visible as a black shadow in all other apps with lighter background (Internet-Browser, ebook-Reader etc..).
And the homescreen is visible only for a few minutes, because when I want to use an app I directly start the app. I don't look so much time to the homescreen and my Galaxy Note goes after one minute in standby mode.
That means only 10 minutes/day homescreen with 100% brightness is enough to damage the screen visible after 10 weeks?
Okay, playing Jelly Defense 2 hours a day at 100% brightness is not so good, but the problem is not the time, because a few minutes looking to the homescreen has nearly the same aging effect.
Since the Groupon deal tablet is beginning to ship, I am wondering how the tablet is going for everyone.
I bought one, but it hasn't shipped yet.
Also, does anyone know if we are able to get warranty from Squaretrade?
Hahahalalala said:
Since the Groupon deal tablet is beginning to ship, I am wondering how the tablet is going for everyone.
I bought one, but it hasn't shipped yet.
Also, does anyone know if we are able to get warranty from Squaretrade?
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Mine is in great shape, physically. Looks brand new.
I do have some issues/questions about screen quality, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it being a refurb. There's a very noticeable dot effect with text and at the edges of images. Like you can see the pixels or something. Almost as though I'm looking at the tablet through a screen door. I don't know if this is expected and people just don't notice or don't care, or if this is a defect.
I just received one in the mail. Looks brand new only thing I know is that it had been on for 32 days
Just got mine a couple of hours ago. Looks brand new. I was nervous because it was the first thing I have ever purchased from Groupon. So far it is great. Came in a sealed Samsung Galaxy box. As far my screen goes I think it looks great and I went to best buy to compare and they look exactly the same and run the same. Make sure you register it you get all kinds of stuff free like 50 bucks to the Samsung hub store ands 25 bucks for Google plays store among other things.
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Mine is in great shape, physically. Looks brand new.
I do have some issues/questions about screen quality, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it being a refurb. There's a very noticeable dot effect with text and at the edges of images. Like you can see the pixels or something. Almost as though I'm looking at the tablet through a screen door. I don't know if this is expected and people just don't notice or don't care, or if this is a defect.
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In bright light with the screen off and turned at an angle I can see the pattern that your describing but that is the Wacom digitizer but I don't see it any other time.
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I just received one in the mail. Looks brand new only thing I know is that it had been on for 32 days
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Was it as display model? Hm..how were you able to find that information?
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Was it as display model? Hm..how were you able to find that information?
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On any Android device go to settings\about device\status and you'll see up time.
Hahahalalala said:
Since the Groupon deal tablet is beginning to ship, I am wondering how the tablet is going for everyone.
I bought one, but it hasn't shipped yet.
Also, does anyone know if we are able to get warranty from Squaretrade?
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The tablet so far has been great. No issues or defects that I've been able to detect. I was also able to get all of the Samsung Promo Freebies. I haven't really looked into a Squaretrade warranty. Odds are that its going to fail in the first 3 months if its going to fail.
One of you will probably receive one of my 4 tablets I had to return to amazon! Going on topic though, I don't think you should be seeing any pixels at the edges of letters.
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On any Android device go to settings\about device\status and you'll see up time.
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Thanks! Don't worry about that actually. I never really turn my tablet off, it just goes into sleep mode.
On mine it says it has been up for 30 days.
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Mine is in great shape, physically. Looks brand new.
I do have some issues/questions about screen quality, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it being a refurb. There's a very noticeable dot effect with text and at the edges of images. Like you can see the pixels or something. Almost as though I'm looking at the tablet through a screen door. I don't know if this is expected and people just don't notice or don't care, or if this is a defect.
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That looks like a dead pixel and you should not have that. I would return it and ask for replacement if I were you.
You can download some screen test apps from market to test different colors to see if your screen got some problems.
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Mine is in great shape, physically. Looks brand new.
I do have some issues/questions about screen quality, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it being a refurb. There's a very noticeable dot effect with text and at the edges of images. Like you can see the pixels or something. Almost as though I'm looking at the tablet through a screen door. I don't know if this is expected and people just don't notice or don't care, or if this is a defect.
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To Do a Full test on your Note whether Refurbished or new you can do the following simple test to check all aspects of your device
Just DIAL on your dial pad *#0*# , and do all required tests.
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To Do a Full test on your Note whether Refurbished or new you can do the following simple test to check all aspects of your device
Just DIAL on your dial pad *#0*# , and do all required tests.
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Not sure if this is a joke, but pretty sure the Note 2014 doesn't have a dial pad...
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jinda628 said:
That looks like a dead pixel and you should not have that. I would return it and ask for replacement if I were you.
You can download some screen test apps from market to test different colors to see if your screen got some problems.
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No, they're not dead pixels. It's the entire screen. Just something weird with the pixel arrangement. I checked out a Best Buy display model and it had the same thing.
It's most noticeable around text and edges of images, but even on plain white screen (like a white background in the browser or an app), you can kind of see it.
Not sure if this is a joke, but pretty sure the Note 2014 doesn't have a dial pad
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That`s not a joke , 2 of the 3 Note 2014 variants have dial pads, the P605 & P601, which is the one i own.
Only the P600 being the wifi version which seems to be yours doesn`t have.
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That`s not a joke , 2 of the 3 Note 2014 variants have dial pads, the P605 & P601, which is the one i own.
Only the P600 being the wifi version which seems to be yours doesn`t have.
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Ah ok. Yeah, mine is the wifi version. Thanks, and sorry about that!
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No, they're not dead pixels. It's the entire screen. Just something weird with the pixel arrangement. I checked out a Best Buy display model and it had the same thing.
It's most noticeable around text and edges of images, but even on plain white screen (like a white background in the browser or an app), you can kind of see it.
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Is it going to be visible when you capture screen and zoom? I didnt notice anything on my P605. I tested it with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yota.screentest
And didn't see any discoloration, washouts, light bleeds and weird pixel arrangements on every test.
Did you try it?
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Mine is in great shape, physically. Looks brand new.
I do have some issues/questions about screen quality, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it being a refurb. There's a very noticeable dot effect with text and at the edges of images. Like you can see the pixels or something. Almost as though I'm looking at the tablet through a screen door. I don't know if this is expected and people just don't notice or don't care, or if this is a defect.
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I have the same issue and have captured it in this picture:
(Ensure you are zoomed to 100%.)
You can see that the aliasing around the black text looks great, but the green install button just looks weird and pixellated. It's not terrible, and it only happens for certain graphics/text, but it's still kind of annoying. The RGBW stripe may be the culprit here; despite having a lower pixel density the true RGB stripe of my girlfriend's iPad Air really does look superior.
To answer OP, my tablet is physically like new. I had pretty bad lag even after installing the software update and restoring to factory settings, mostly evident in pulling down the notification shade and scrolling in apps. I rooted and put CleanRom 2.0 R2 on and it's seriously night and day. So freaking fast now. Overall I'm extremely happy for the price I paid.
Edit: XDA murdered the resolution and won't let me post a link. Take the spaces out of the below:
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Mine looks like new and performs great. Took forever though my shipment was delayed 3 days by a 3" snow. I watched the tracking say out for delivery 3 days in a row, only to see a weather exception later in the afternoon. Finally on the fourth day they delivered it. Great deal but I'm shocked at the price of movies at the Hub store that $50 is gonna go quick. Sent using my new Note.
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What have you captured? Looked at in person mine's fine and no different than my N3 (second pic). The moiré created by the camera and light reflecting off the N10.1-14's active digitizer's matrix makes the pic look like crap but I see nothing funky at all on the display directly.
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I have the same issue and have captured it in this picture:
(Ensure you are zoomed to 100%.)
You can see that the aliasing around the black text looks great, but the green install button just looks weird and pixellated. It's not terrible, and it only happens for certain graphics/text, but it's still kind of annoying. The RGBW stripe may be the culprit here; despite having a lower pixel density the true RGB stripe of my girlfriend's iPad Air really does look superior.
To answer OP, my tablet is physically like new. I had pretty bad lag even after installing the software update and restoring to factory settings, mostly evident in pulling down the notification shade and scrolling in apps. I rooted and put CleanRom 2.0 R2 on and it's seriously night and day. So freaking fast now. Overall I'm extremely happy for the price I paid.
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That green box is an excellent representation of the issue. It's almost like it's got a dotted border all the way around it.
But honestly, I think on that whole screen, the pixels (if that's what the issue is... I get the whole ppi, not being able to see individual pixels at a certain distance bit) kind of pop out at you. Not sure if it's because it's a still image and is relatively close to the screen or what. But definitely mostly noticeable around that button and the line green line below it.
I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
RMA
A more ironic comparison could never have been made. LOL!
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RMA
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I have a feeling that will ultimately be necessary. It just sucks because I REALLY don't feel like dealing with the hassle.
Thats the only benefit of Google Play.
You got your phone first but if I have to RMA (If I ever get the phone) they will send me a replacement first.
Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
Hope this isn't by design. With LCDs, this could be a bad backlight. Color temp isn't controlled by a backlight with AMOLED, though, so I'm not sure how this could be a hardware problem. More than one phone has been released where manufacturers tried the "warm" color temp route before customers complained and they patched a cooler temp. Even iPhone went through it.
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Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
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I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
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Most people prefer a cooler display. If it's just the color profile, it'll be fixed by someone in a matter of days. The plus of an open phone.
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The plus of an open phone.
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Amen to that
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
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It's usually done at the kernel level, but could be made to be adjusted outside of hardcoded settings if coded to do so.
rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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Agreed. Looks like the N6 is more color accurate and the 1plus1 looks blue
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I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
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I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I was thinking the same thing but when I read about it online it said that most of the time if it is a glue issue then the yellowing is more splotchy and not an even full screen distribution. But either way I will give it some time to see what happens
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Good to know, thanks
Check out MKBHD's new review of the Pixel 2 / XL. Thoughts?
Halt shipping and conduct a QC investigation...
Watched this video this morning! Can't wait for my P2XL to arrive tomorrow!
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As always, an honest review.
Makes me more excited for my delivery, although it is one day past my ship date and I have no confirmation.
Blue hue, won't bother me at all.
Muted colors. I believe google will provide some options with a software update at some point, but I've already seen the phone at Verizon and the colors didn't bother me at all.
Otherwise, the phone will definitely be the best I've ever had.
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As always, an honest review.
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I worry sometimes that MKBHD is too much of an android fanboy & then a review comes out like this & I don't care anymore. LOL!
Seriously, I've watched him since he was a teenager & I believe what he says.
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
I'm going to honestly say that all this news on the Pixel 2XL feels like a smear campaign or something. I swear, I wasn't seeing as many news stories as when Samsung had phones exploding and they were refusing to let them on planes. Why is something that is largely subjective as screen preference, dotted with a few actual hardware defects being plastered everywhere on the internet. I seriously can't scroll one or two screens, in Google, Newstand, Google+, Facebook, etc without seeing something about the damn screen.
b ..bb.bbbut the screen looks funny when i try to watch a YouTube video at the lowest light setting with 1 eye holding it sideways with a strobe light going off in the background
seriously though i don't know. Google F'ed my shipping up and i went from having it yesterday to having it Thursday so id love to put this thing to the test myself but the wait continues.
Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
love how he explained the color issue.
He made a great review! I don't know why everyone is crying so much. This phone is amazing. I've had it for three days now and I might be lucky but I have 0 issues. The colors for me are fine and it's really smooth. I'm extremely happy with my purchase and can't wait for further development for this phone.
I like his reviews as he is seeing the device for what it is and compares it to how he uses it.. Yes his use might be different than ours but at least he is reviewing in the sense of a normal user (or at least for me he does). The whole display thing i feel is being blown way out of proportion. Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it? or would you have gone about your day like it never existed. For cases where it is faulty that is where warranty comes in play. so i'll be getting my phone and going through my works but most likely i will be keeping mine
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Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it?
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Thanks for the information. i do believe you on the blue tint being probably that bad. me personally i would have to use it for a week before i can decide if that will really bother me. if other see it i'm eh about it cause it's not their phone. but glad to know you noticed other people have noticed on your phone.
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Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
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Totally agreed with you on this. for such a high price flagship, we shouldn't be able to oversee issues like this. That's the reason I cancelled it. I'll wait a few more weeks or months if things gets better and re-order. For now, I wouldn't lie to my self and say I can live with this.
His comments on the display were interesting and it is odd that the display supports a wider color gamut but isn't using it (as evidenced by Firefox). That said, the images people typically use to compare the display are grossly oversaturated even if they are using a wider gamut. The first comparison picture he uses with the S8 has much more detail in the Pixel version because the S8 is blowing out the colors so much to produce those saturated neon greens. I'd be interested to actually see the Pixel up against another display that is using proper color saturation with a wider gamut.
Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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I feel like I can live with the screen washout and blue tint at the angle. I'm a little worried about the screen burn in and clucky noises that people are reporting hopefully those are just defects from a really bad batch. I get mine tomorrow so I will definitely be keeping an eye on it. If anything is bad I return it and just get the Pixel XL.
Notable XDA Dev supercurio sheds some light on some of the claims made in Marques' review.
Keep in mind this guy made the software that Erica Griffin used to measure the display. He knows what he's talking about, more than most.
https://plus.google.com/+supercurioFrancoisSimond/posts/8feW5GMgGgt
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Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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Go with your own review, who knows what some reviewers motives are. Hell id praise a phone if it meant they kept sending me free stuff and devices! MKBHD is honest I believe though
The blue tint is when it's at a certain angle. Now that angle may be less than most phones, but I don't know of anyone who reads their phone at an angle. He explains that in the video as well. Like he said if your "that guy/gal' then this phone isn't for you. I think when people bring stuff up that bothers them & make a big deal about it everyone is looking for it. If other reviewers had never said anything this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just nitpicking now.
I recently got the pixel 2 Xl. I love it, it's better than the Nexus 6p that I had. I haven't noticed any of the issues that people have been mentioning. My theory is people complain about the smallest things and they will continue to complain even if they switch to a different phone. They will always find something wrong to complain about. I think a lot of the noise is fake news from people that are promoting other devices. Give the phone a try if you like it keep it if you don't return it. The sound is good and I don't notice any screen burn-in.
Or the quality varies between devices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably more likely than fake news from device shills
Have you considered that it is possible that there is device-to-device variability? I mean several posters have put up side-by-side images of 2 different P2XL's that clearly showed one was very blue and the other wasn't. Lucky you that you got a good one but you should assume that just because your's is good that they all are.
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Have you considered that it is possible that there is device-to-device variability? I mean several posters have put up side-by-side images of 2 different P2XL's that clearly showed one was very blue and the other wasn't. Lucky you that you got a good one but you should assume that just because your's is good that they all are.
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Nope. His device is fine which means everything else is #fakenews.
Haha...of course! What was I thinking!!!
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I recently got the pixel 2 Xl. I love it, it's better than the Nexus 6p that I had. I haven't noticed any of the issues that people have been mentioning. My theory is people complain about the smallest things and they will continue to complain even if they switch to a different phone. They will always find something wrong to complain about. I think a lot of the noise is fake news from people that are promoting other devices. Give the phone a try if you like it keep it if you don't return it. The sound is good and I don't notice any screen burn-in.
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Look at all the pics in another P2XL thread here with pictures of exact same models, and they vary in how blue their tint is.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/screen-issue-blue-shift-real-unlucky-t3696638
Mine is fffn perfect, but a large number of other buyers have the tint big time. This is not fake news or whiners.
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Nope. His device is fine which means everything else is #fakenews.
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Isn't that the rules on the internet?
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Isn't that the rules on the internet?
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MY REALITY IS FINE, SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS FAKE N00Z! But seriously, I think its pretty evident at this point that there are variations in the severity of the "blue shift". I've been keeping my eye on this.
I have the blue tint issue. It's not that bad. Google has expanded the warranty if I don't like it I can return it. If this is the only thing wrong with the phone I will be happy with it. Poke the internet and it pokes back. I more put this comment out so I didn't have to search all the forums to find all the issues. I figured people would rant about my post and post the issues. It's working Thanks for sharing.
There are legitimate issues here, screen burn in I would rate as chief among them. But they are being blown waaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. They do this for every device that comes out. Coming up with umpteen reasons why "x" device has the worst "y" component in smartphone history.
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Use a black theme, holy **** people, no more blue tint, and no burn in. I'm so sick of every other thread talking about the blue tint. Get rid of the phone, get something else and leave if you can't handle the "screen issues"
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There are legitimate issues here, screen burn in I would rate as chief among them. But they are being blown waaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. They do this for every device that comes out. Coming up with umpteen reasons why "x" device has the worst "y" component in smartphone history.
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my s7 edge has blue shift at very extreme angles but my new P2XL has it straight on at 0degrees. It's defective for sure. Going back as no matter what google lies about the screen issues, this shouldn't be this blue! Also for future reference, Google chat is refusing to RMA blue screen problems but if you call in they'll replace it.
Oh yeah btw the guy on the phone was linked to one of the pages on this site showing side by side comparisons and stated "Yeah it's not supposed to be like that, not that blue"
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Lawlrus said:
Use a black theme, holy **** people, no more blue tint, and no burn in. I'm so sick of every other thread talking about the blue tint. Get rid of the phone, get something else and leave if you can't handle the "screen issues"
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If you don't want to hear about it stay out of the blue shift and screen issues threads. Simple as that. My screen is blue when looking straight on. Looks like hell, no I will not change all sorts of settings and/or switch to different theme just to 'HIDE' the defect with my device. Is it too much to ask for a non defective device for a $100 phone let alone a $1,000 phone! Btw mine is going back but for another one with agood acceptable screen. Congrats you got a good one right off the bat, I and a bunch of others here weren't so lucky!
@whyme45125
Pretty hard when more than half the threads on here are crying about it. Don't like the blue shift? Get a different phone stop sending it back. Get a refund and leave, or would it not sit well you have nothing to compalin about then?
Bunch of highschool girls
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Pretty hard when more than half the threads on here are crying about it. Don't like the blue shift? Get a different phone stop sending it back. Get a refund and leave, or would it not sit well you have nothing to compalin about then?
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so then there's a legitimate reason for the complaints then if it's more than half of us! TROLL - ignored.
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so then there's a legitimate reason for the complaints then if it's more than half of us! TROLL
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Trolling? Do you see how many posts I have? You think a troll account would last this long?
It's pretty simple. If it's a legitimate issue, then stop getting pixel 2's and get something else.
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Pretty hard when more than half the threads on here are crying about it. Don't like the blue shift? Get a different phone stop sending it back. Get a refund and leave, or would it not sit well you have nothing to compalin about then?
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So much yes.
Key advice on the internet: Don't feed the trolls
I have no doubt that there are problems. That said, people bailed before they ever got their phone simply based on strangers reports.
I do find the Note 8 is brighter with more vivid colors. That said, I've done quite a few TV calibrations and my Pixel 2 XL is closer to realistic colors than the Note 8. Samsung oversaturates colors and kicks the brightness way up to make their screens pop. They are not realistic representations of a calibrated display. Many have just gotten used to the inaccurate displays of other phones. Just my opinion.
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I have no doubt that there are problems. That said, people bailed before they ever got their phone simply based on strangers reports.
I do find the Note 8 is brighter with more vivid colors. That said, I've done quite a few TV calibrations and my Pixel 2 XL is closer to realistic colors than the Note 8. Samsung oversaturates colors and kicks the brightness way up to make their screens pop. They are not realistic representations of a calibrated display. Many have just gotten used to the inaccurate displays of other phones. Just my opinion.
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Agreed the colors represented are the closest phone I've seen to my calibrated tv. That being said the blue shift is the killer for me and a lot of others here, not the color accuracy that keeps being brought up(we all know that's a software fix for those samsung supersaturation lovers), but I am getting another one since I love this phone so much and feel it's an amazing device besides the screen problem on mine.
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I recently got the pixel 2 Xl. I love it, it's better than the Nexus 6p that I had. I haven't noticed any of the issues that people have been mentioning. My theory is people complain about the smallest things and they will continue to complain even if they switch to a different phone. They will always find something wrong to complain about. I think a lot of the noise is fake news from people that are promoting other devices. Give the phone a try if you like it keep it if you don't return it. The sound is good and I don't notice any screen burn-in.
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Definitely not fake news. Mine looks nothing like the ones on display at Verizon near me. I took a picture of mine while waiting in the Google Support chat queue tonight. It's definitely not good on my unit.