Trying to be sure if it's either my device faulty or it's typical. As long as there aren't a lot of whites on the screen, it looks good.
Open Facebook or Chrome browser - or just anything with white background or lots of whites, and there is this blue tint over the white.
On max brightness it's not as bad, but if I turn on adaptive display, the darker the screen is, the more blue the whites are to a point, it's uncomfortable to read anything. Here is are some pictures what I'm talking about.
First one is a bit unfair, compared to Galaxy S7 Edge, but just look at the G5plus on the right. It's way blueish.
On the next picture, it's compared to a cheap Chinese phone (Nuu 3G) with a 720p display. Now, it may not show how blue it gets, because the brightness is on max to take the picture, but trust me, when it's halfway bright or less, it gets a lot worse with the blue.
Anyone else have this issue? Or is this the normal?
what i did was unlock the bootloader then flashed a kcal custom kernel to adjust the color. unfortunately, Moto and Amazon will not unlock Amazon edition bootloaders so that is not an option for you.
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I am looking for honest opinions about the color change to the Nexus S display with the 2.3.3 update. I have heard very many people complaining and not liking the new color scheme. THis is key to whether I allow my nexus to update or not. If anybody can give me any opinions regarding this I will greatly apprectiate it. Also, what exactly was wrong with the original color scheme to begin with?
I've been lurking for a while now, but I suppose it's high time that I start contributing around here!
I think the update's colors are fine. Breaking it down, the 2.3.2 and below colors were a bit reddish in my eyes. While you couldn't tell for the most part, if you use a program like Screen Filter and get the screen to be very dim, there would be a very purple tint to the screen.
The update removed the purple tint, but a lot of people (the ones you refer to) began complaining about a yellowish tint and washed out colors. The yellowish tint is noticeable, especially when I compare white between the Nexus S and either my computer or an iPhone 3GS. In my eyes, it's not *that* yellow, and the screen overall looks better than it did pre-update. The washed out effect I really haven't noticed, though I do think that after installing netarchy's kernel, the colors do pop a little bit more.
Overall, I'm not a terribly picky person, but I do think that 2.3.3+Voodoo color looks better than 2.3.2 or stock 2.3.3.
Jeff's right. 2.3.3 stock colors aren't bad at all. I actually like it over the purplish colors of 2.3.2. Plus I think the lowest brightness levels have been darker than 2.3.2.
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You can't compare your super amoled screen to a computer monitor or an iPhone. When making this kinda comparison, you should compare with another similiar galaxy s phone or N1 that doesn't have the purplish tint issue. With that being said, the reason why colors looks washed out to some after the update is because, before the update most of us was used to the grays being purple so alot of images that had this certain shade of gray would display purple. Now after the update, those images that we're used to looking at with the purplish issue are now all of a sudden displaying it's true color of grays, which causes the images to appear washed out. The update does provide the correct color calibrations. Also keep in mind the these screens are not consistently manufactured the same. So even tho the update provides the correct color calibration, the outcome still may vary depending on the condition of the manufactured screen which explains why some are experiencing extreme yellowish discoloration.
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my brother bought a nexus S used few days ago. it was on 2.3.2
on high brightness, the white was perfect white " no yellow tint on it. perfect white.
however on low settings, it used to have pink tint that is more clear on gray colors.
so he updated to 2.3.3, the pink is gone. but now the screen has this " yellow " tint to it that makes the creen looks washed out. the blue not really a blue . its lighter blue, and the white on high setting is like yellow white.
however, he updated the karnel i think with one from voodoo where he can pick between 2 color profiles " forgot the name of the karnel but its in xda "
now the screen is back to how it was on 2.3.2 with its white " no yellowish" and when he pick the color profile for the low settings, the pink is also gone . no more pink on low settings and yellow on high settings. its actually perfect.
i assume if your phone has yellow issue on 2.3.2, then you are probably screwed. as there is no fix to that. the voodoo will only return the white to how it was on 2.3.2
but if your white was perfect and you have a problem with the pink, then look for the karnel, you will lose your pink plus the perfect white will come back agian
Ok well I would like to get peoples feedback and opinions on their screens.
My story. Broke my GNote II instead of paying to replace LCD decided to upgrade with my carrier.
First Note 3 I bought was bright with nice whites and great viewing angles. But it has the dreaded pinkinsh purple screen tint issue in the lower 3rd of the screen more so on the right side. This is subtle and is less evident in brighter conditions or higher screen brightness. At low brightness and in dark environments it is particularly visible on white and grey backgrounds. Went to store to exchange and they refused given they could not see the defect. I came online here searched around and it seems this has been an issue on the GS4 and people have mentioned it on the new Note 3.
Convinced my carrier to send me a replacement and I will return the original to them. Well got the replacement 3-4 days ago. The unit seems quite different. First off the screen is overall a bit more yellow at face on viewing angles and perhaps a hair less bright at similar settings though hard to tell. The bottom is not color shifted puple. The screen color is more homogenous. However the viewing angles are completely different. Here while the brightness stays goo dlike the first when angling the screen, the colors shift to a more aqua color with minor angle variation. (guessing 20-30*) whereas the original unit has virtually no color shift at almost 90*.
I probably have to send back a unit in the coming day or 2 and make a final decision. In theory I could try to ask for a third model, however it was with a lot of difficulty and threats to leave my carrier that they relented in the first replacement. SO I likely will have to stick with one of these or return both and use my somewhat broken note 2 and wait for something else.
I am wondering if any of you out here have similar pink/purple tint issues at one end of your screen. Or if you have issues with significant white color shift when angling your screen more than 30* in either portrait or landscape. Also if good or bad can you check build date on your phone (should be under battery). FInally did you or will you replace it? Was replacement better or worse?
Also if in my shoes would you go for the better looking screen with the pink issue or the more consistent looking screen that is a bit more blue yellow.
Thanks!
lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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I know you did and I posted some long posts there and the thread kind of died.
I have some specific questions here as well as asking what I should do in my case.
I had a note 2 and remember there being perseus kernel and with STweaks one could shift color etc and make it how you like. I am thinking going with the more uniform color model as I am sure the slight yellow tint can be corrected and the blue tint on viewing angles is no worse than my note 2 looking back so I will get used to it I imagine. That said the first screen really has great screen but the purplish pink right bottom corner bugs me on white and grey screens ( not noticeable on high brightness though) and often reading on websites etc indoors I notice it enough that it bugs me.....
So for anyone who cares here is an update on my plan. The more uniform note 3 is more yellow/green tinted whites compared to the other one that is whiter/redder. That said if I use one of these screen filter style apps that exist in the play store, I can modify the overall screen into however I like.
Downside is that it means a persistently running app to do it with whatever effect on screen longevity and battery.
Now on my Note 2 which is also yellower, I was running perseus kernel and the s tweaks app and was able at the kernel level to modify the color to get better whites. I imagine it is only a matter of time before someone can do that for our note 3. I can handle the viewing angle color shift as the device is in my hand and not on a table when i use it where it might be off angle viewing by a large amount. And even then, the tinting of white has a bluish shift and now worse than a yellowing shift my wifes iphone has off angle or my note 2 did.
Would love tohear from others and what their screens are like and or developers who might have the means of modifying color at kernel level the way Andreilux did on the note 2
I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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You checked 13 notes and 12 of them were either yellow tint or what gray lining issue?
How did you manage to check so many.
Can you check the following. Look at the phone screen face on the tilt either up down or side to side about 30 degrees and tell me if the white on the screen turns bluish.
One of my phones does this and has the yellower whites. The other does not and has better whites but has some purplish discoloration in the lower right part of the phone.
Any one here try a new kernel from the android development sections?
Some of them talk about being able to modify screen color. Am wondering if this can be a fix for my issues.
Yo.
I'm still wondering if my S5 screens is as good as it's supposed to be. I have 2 major concerns, screen uniformity and purple trails.
I come from an ancient S1, and nothing of this happened. I have attached a single color pic that shows clearly how screen have a soft gradient from top to bottom on my phone. When I put basic colors (RGBYWB from test modes or apps) nothing of this is apparent at all, and screen looks gorgeus, but this color and some other grays show what I'm talking about. I would be grateful if you load the pic in full screen mode and tell your impressions. Offscreen shots would be welcome too.
Also, about the purple trails when moving on screen pitch blacks, it affects every screen or only some unfortunate ones? S1 never show anything similar. Max bright reduces it, but nor completly.
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Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India. Everything about the phone is great. It was already on lollipop. But when I decrease the brightness to below 30-40% the display gradually becomes more and more purple. And with Adaptive Brightness on and in a dark room, it's so purple that the green and yellow shades appear grey or black. I know amoled panels have this problem at very low brightness and apparently many Nexys 6 users are also facing it. However I didn't see many complaints here in the Moto X forum.
So if you have this problem please vote in the poll above. Then I can ask them for a replacement. Thank you.
I'd later add some photos of the screen.
P.S. If you are experiencing this, please add some photos so that people can compare it with their displays.
ok i have this problem too, but when I'm in the bed and reading random news this purple display isn't disturbing me. i can feel it relax more my eyes. so i can say i take advantage from a bug
I don't think this is a bug, way easier on the eyes in the dark, perhaps some kind of a feature on AMOLED and Lollipop. The Nexus 6 has it, too, i think.
I don't know if anyone else noticed that in direct sun light, the screen goes extra bright - like indoor bright + boost?
This is not a feature. It's an issue with amoled displays. That's why Samsung limits the lowest brightness to a higher level. While Moto X seems to go way down. I just want to know if everyone's having this. Then it's okay. But if it's not everyone then there're some good amoled panels out there and we are getting the bad ones.
Yup, keep noticing this before the screen goes completely off.
It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
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It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
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That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
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That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
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Well, only 2 out of 11 people have reported no color distortion. And remember that while you're asking "Is there a purple tint?" they're answering the question "Have you noticed a purple tint?"
What I've noticed is that when Adaptive Brightness is on, the display gets super dark and causes the purple tint. When I turn Adaptive Brightness off in a dark room, it actually completely loses the purple tint, and compared to my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 at lowest brightness, the screen is brighter than the Tab S. So I guess Motorola hasn't caught up with Samsung's display technology since my Tab S can actually get dimmer without such a dramatic color distortion - for my Moto X to get to a brightness level that dim, I need to turn on Adaptive Brightness (thus with the purple tint).
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I wouldn't say it gets a Purple tint but rather a reddish one with adaptive light.
And I LOVE it. This way I don't have to install Lumen.CF or any other stuff. Way easier on the eyes at night and it gets reeeeeeaally dark. Just perfect!
I also love that it naturally has a lower white temperature point than other lcd/phones screens. Warmer white is cozy white.
7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
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7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
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I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
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I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
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The rest of the phone in my case feels pretty solid and well built. Also I'm getting 47k+ scores on Antutu. Hence I am having second thoughts about getting it replaced.
My PE doesn't turn purple and has better whites than my AT&T branded one. The screen on that one is awful to me but I also use a G2, iPhone 6, '13 N7, no one notices but me.
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After three replacements, I finally got a decent one. :laugh:
I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
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I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
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Indeed, when adaptative brightness is turned off, purple tint will not occur. However, I am not sure this is a "feature". It actually looks more like a poor implementation of auto brightness.
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Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India.
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I use the CF Lumen app to turn down the red and green just a tad in the master mode. That makes my screen less pinkish.
I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
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I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
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Running 5.0 having the same issue waiting for the update. Will report back thanks for this info I thought it's a amlod display issue, new to this display past few years was on lcd panel device's just got this device more than a week only now. But this is a great news. Thanks.
When in low brightness the blacks get jelly like stretching effect when in motion. I notice this all the time, with text and whatever. Most noticeable if a picture has something dark surrounded by bright area, scroll up and down and see the block stretch like rubber. What's up with that and why haven't I seen it mentioned in any review.. Very obvious artifact.
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When in low brightness the blacks get jelly like stretching effect when in motion. I notice this all the time, with text and whatever. Most noticeable if a picture has something dark surrounded by bright area, scroll up and down and see the block stretch like rubber. What's up with that and why haven't I seen it mentioned in any review.. Very obvious artifact.
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I have this same problem. Anyone have any idea what it can be?
You're seeing the pixels turn on and off as they turn off for black. All amoleds do it. Usually more noticeable when the brightness is lowered and it is white on black.
There is no pure black color. Black pixels aren't off. Later I will try make some photos to show this. I don't have this in S5, where black and gray colors are perfect and looks like in every amoled LCD's should be.
on older devices(saw this with the note 2) black would be near-black(leaving a slight grey/greenish glow only visible in complete darkness)
with the note 4(don't know about S4/5 and note 3) they decided to enable "true" black, allowing the pixels to turn off completely when displaying black.
switching on/off takes a tiny bit longer than changing intensity, which causes visible ghosting.
this is only noticeable in very specific circumstances, so most people never see it happen.
Black color looks it like with sephia filter. I don't know what it is. I changed ROM-s and kernels, still this same. On S5 black color is beautiful, Note 4 looks terible, especially in dark rooms. See atachments.