I am looking for honest opinions about the color change to the Nexus S display with the 2.3.3 update. I have heard very many people complaining and not liking the new color scheme. THis is key to whether I allow my nexus to update or not. If anybody can give me any opinions regarding this I will greatly apprectiate it. Also, what exactly was wrong with the original color scheme to begin with?
I've been lurking for a while now, but I suppose it's high time that I start contributing around here!
I think the update's colors are fine. Breaking it down, the 2.3.2 and below colors were a bit reddish in my eyes. While you couldn't tell for the most part, if you use a program like Screen Filter and get the screen to be very dim, there would be a very purple tint to the screen.
The update removed the purple tint, but a lot of people (the ones you refer to) began complaining about a yellowish tint and washed out colors. The yellowish tint is noticeable, especially when I compare white between the Nexus S and either my computer or an iPhone 3GS. In my eyes, it's not *that* yellow, and the screen overall looks better than it did pre-update. The washed out effect I really haven't noticed, though I do think that after installing netarchy's kernel, the colors do pop a little bit more.
Overall, I'm not a terribly picky person, but I do think that 2.3.3+Voodoo color looks better than 2.3.2 or stock 2.3.3.
Jeff's right. 2.3.3 stock colors aren't bad at all. I actually like it over the purplish colors of 2.3.2. Plus I think the lowest brightness levels have been darker than 2.3.2.
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You can't compare your super amoled screen to a computer monitor or an iPhone. When making this kinda comparison, you should compare with another similiar galaxy s phone or N1 that doesn't have the purplish tint issue. With that being said, the reason why colors looks washed out to some after the update is because, before the update most of us was used to the grays being purple so alot of images that had this certain shade of gray would display purple. Now after the update, those images that we're used to looking at with the purplish issue are now all of a sudden displaying it's true color of grays, which causes the images to appear washed out. The update does provide the correct color calibrations. Also keep in mind the these screens are not consistently manufactured the same. So even tho the update provides the correct color calibration, the outcome still may vary depending on the condition of the manufactured screen which explains why some are experiencing extreme yellowish discoloration.
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my brother bought a nexus S used few days ago. it was on 2.3.2
on high brightness, the white was perfect white " no yellow tint on it. perfect white.
however on low settings, it used to have pink tint that is more clear on gray colors.
so he updated to 2.3.3, the pink is gone. but now the screen has this " yellow " tint to it that makes the creen looks washed out. the blue not really a blue . its lighter blue, and the white on high setting is like yellow white.
however, he updated the karnel i think with one from voodoo where he can pick between 2 color profiles " forgot the name of the karnel but its in xda "
now the screen is back to how it was on 2.3.2 with its white " no yellowish" and when he pick the color profile for the low settings, the pink is also gone . no more pink on low settings and yellow on high settings. its actually perfect.
i assume if your phone has yellow issue on 2.3.2, then you are probably screwed. as there is no fix to that. the voodoo will only return the white to how it was on 2.3.2
but if your white was perfect and you have a problem with the pink, then look for the karnel, you will lose your pink plus the perfect white will come back agian
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Anyone having the "Blue Tint" problem? it happens when i am on the lowest brightness level and i open up the gmail app the white has a bluish tint. I went to the tmobile store and they exchanged my phone because the display model displayed perfect white when set at the lowest brightness and the gmail app was opened. some euro galaxy s users are also reporting of a blue tint problem when displaying whites. Any one experiencing this?
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Anyone having the "Blue Tint" problem? it happens when i am on the lowest brightness level and i open up the gmail app the white has a bluish tint. I went to the tmobile store and they exchanged my phone because the display model displayed perfect white when set at the lowest brightness and the gmail app was opened. some euro galaxy s users are also reporting of a blue tint problem when displaying whites. Any one experiencing this?
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I've got the same issue. I just figured it was a product of the SAMOLED screen, but I guess I'll swing by the T-Mob store tomorrow and see what's up.
I thought it was a little strange that the Gmail client opened and the tint changed a bit. I also figured it was just something that happens with the SAMOLED.
Please give us an update after you stop by the T-mo store.
Yep its blue here too. I sorta thought it was a bit odd, but figured oh well it sure is easy on the eyes thou.
Can you provide an example?
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uhh, that's not normal?
When my wife first saw the screen she said there was a blue tint to it but I wasn't able to see it. But now that others are seeing it too, maybe it is a problem.
Here's what I did... I downloaded one of those flashlight apps that turns your entire screen white. I then did a screen shot with Shoot Me app (for root users).
Then I compared the screen shot with the actual screen and took a picture of it.
I'm not sure if this is a good enough experiment since color settings on my monitor can be different but here is a pic for you guys nonetheless.
The Vibrant color temperature appears to be running hot at about 7800K. There should be a way to adjust the color temperature somewhere.
Someone posted about this in the i9000 section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7272068
Seems like it's an SAMOLED issue, but if others have seen demo phones that appear 'warmer', maybe it's not.
Just got back from my trip to the T-Mob store and played with the demo model and 2 reps personal phones any they all have the same issue. I'm going to chalk it up to it being part of the SAMOLED technology and ignore it. It doesn't bother me at all, but if it was a small group that had the issue, I would have exchanged my phone.
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Anyone having the "Blue Tint" problem? it happens when i am on the lowest brightness level and i open up the gmail app the white has a bluish tint. I went to the tmobile store and they exchanged my phone because the display model displayed perfect white when set at the lowest brightness and the gmail app was opened. some euro galaxy s users are also reporting of a blue tint problem when displaying whites. Any one experiencing this?
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This very interesting because I did recognize the blue tint on my phone as well, however my girlfriends phone has a soft yellow tint.
I'm curious what is causing this to happen.
(I remember on the iphones, the old ones had a blue clear tint, while the newer screens had the very same soft yellow tint to it. I know they are two very different screen technology, but it's interesting that I'm seeing it again, except on two of the same batch of phones. I checked the boxes and they are from the same, "litter.")
Anyone find out how we can adjust the color temp on our phones?
I guess, Samsung just averaged this tint. Since blue amoleds with time degrade faster then others, the things will be better at some point and end up with yellow tint several years from now.
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This very interesting because I did recognize the blue tint on my phone as well, however my girlfriends phone has a soft yellow tint.
I'm curious what is causing this to happen.
(I remember on the iphones, the old ones had a blue clear tint, while the newer screens had the very same soft yellow tint to it. I know they are two very different screen technology, but it's interesting that I'm seeing it again, except on two of the same batch of phones. I checked the boxes and they are from the same, "litter.")
Anyone find out how we can adjust the color temp on our phones?
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I took a picture with my Canon 5D...if you look up at the very top at the black strip that goes across where the notifications show up, you can see the color difference.
If you look closely at the picture you can tell the left is blue and the right is yellow.
IT'S MUCH MORE NOTICEABLE IN WITH THE NAKED EYE.
Any thoughts?
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I took a picture with my Canon 5D...if you look up at the very top at the black strip that goes across where the notifications show up, you can see the color difference.
If you look closely at the picture you can tell the left is blue and the right is yellow.
IT'S MUCH MORE NOTICEABLE IN WITH THE NAKED EYE.
Any thoughts?
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First and foremost, I wouldn't call it a "problem," as the thread indicates. It just is what it is and does no harm...
Anyhow here's some pictures I took of the four Vibrants I have. You can definitely see the contrast now. My phone is #4 on far right. Ice cold blue eh? or actually blue flame kelvin hot! It looks like my HID's on my car and the yellow on the other phones look like my stock yellow oem headlights...
Something I noticed today while reading through comments on Endgadget is that every time I would scroll down (or up), the tint would turn more blue as it scrolled. Release my finger from the screen, and the tint would "snap" back to yellow.
The difference in tint is very subtle, but once I caught onto it, I found it distracting.
I cant say I'm able to replicate this behavior on other websites. Google News and NYT, for example, are fine. Furthermore, I'm not seeing it in the XDA app, Gmail, or the Market.
My overall screen brightness is set to 0 and my browser brightness is also at 0.
Anyone else seeing this?
I have an iphone 3G in hand next to my Vibrant. The iphone's browser clearly has a very neutral white, whereas the Samsung presents whites as very blue-green and much dimmer. I have mine set to auto-bright levels. How do you change the browser's brightness independently?
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I have an iphone 3G in hand next to my Vibrant. The iphone's browser clearly has a very neutral white, whereas the Samsung presents whites as very blue-green and much dimmer. I have mine set to auto-bright levels. How do you change the browser's brightness independently?
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In browser, Menu > More > scroll down to Brightness Setting.
I have this problem before ,today I got my replacement phone the color is pure white , I think different batch have different color.
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I have this problem before ,today I got my replacement phone the color is pure white , I think different batch have different color.
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Probably the case. Now I'm wondering if it's a setting in the software or if it's a physical LED characteristic?
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Something I noticed today while reading through comments on Endgadget is that every time I would scroll down (or up), the tint would turn more blue as it scrolled. Release my finger from the screen, and the tint would "snap" back to yellow.
The difference in tint is very subtle, but once I caught onto it, I found it distracting.
I cant say I'm able to replicate this behavior on other websites. Google News and NYT, for example, are fine. Furthermore, I'm not seeing it in the XDA app, Gmail, or the Market.
My overall screen brightness is set to 0 and my browser brightness is also at 0.
Anyone else seeing this?
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I can replicate this issue on XDA via the brower on any brightness setting. The screen's slight blue (cool) tint becomes yellowy (warm) when I hold my finger on the page or scroll. Additionally, images become noticeably distorted during the hold-tap, so I assume low quality cache images are being generated for smoother scrolling, and the color temperature is accidentally changed as well.
This would appear to be an issue that software fixes may be able to counter (if any of this is indeed a hardware issue in the first place).
I recently got a Fascinate and I've noticed that, compared to my dad's Fascinate, the color balance is significantly more blue on my phone at all brightness levels and is especially noticeable when looking at a primarily white webpage such as google's. While it's probably not something I would've noticed had I not had another screen to compare it to, it has really been bothering me and I'm wondering whether I should try to have it replaced before my 30 days is up (It just so happens today is the 30th day).
In trying to find info on this issue I've come across a lot of conflicting accounts about color balance problems on the SF. Some say their phone has the blue tint while others complain of a yellowish tint. One of my worries about exchanging this device is that the blue tint may actually be preferred or even intended on Samsung's part because according to the wikipedia article on OLED:
Additionally, as the OLED material used to produce blue light degrades significantly more rapidly than the materials that produce other colors, blue light output will decrease relative to the other colors of light. This differential color output change will change the color balance of the display and is much more noticeable than a decrease in overall luminance. This can be partially avoided by adjusting colour balance but this may require advanced control circuits and interaction with the user, which is unacceptable for some users. In order to delay the problem, manufacturers bias the colour balance towards blue so that the display initially has an artificially blue tint, leading to complaints of artificial-looking, over-saturated colors. More commonly, though, manufacturers optimize the size of the R, G and B subpixels to reduce the current density through the subpixel in order to equalize lifetime at full luminance.
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The problem is there is no citation given for the section in bold so I cannot be sure if manufacturers are actually using this method. It's possible Samsung uses the "more common" method and my device is simply a defect.
Has anyone had a similar experience with their screen?
Can anyone confirm whether this is intentional or unintentional on Samsung's part?
Do you guys think I should try to get a replacement?
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My SF has a bluish tint to the color balance, should I try to get it replaced?
Hmm I noticed my replacement Fascinate had a purplish tint (mainly towards the bottom) on the screen.. This was not apparent on my original.. May it rest in piece(s).
Search for the voodoo project(?) on google.
Btw my screen is more blue than my girlfriends even when I have color fix. Not a big deal.
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My Fascinate has a yellow tint - very slight at full bright, but rather noticeable when the phone downshifts to low-brightness.
The one at the store was similar, so I didn't worry about it, but the voodoo folks have a color fix. I have avoided voodoo thus far, so I have no idea how effective it is.
color fix only works at 100% brightness.
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Wow too my surprise, after installing the new update, I noticed right off the colors has been calibrated correctly! No more purplish in certain shades of grays now!
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2.3.3 also fixed my overly bright screen too. I used to have my NS always set on the lowest brightness setting and I still felt that it was too bright.
Yeah it did seem to improve the brightness as well. I like the new settings.
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You guys don't think its too yellowish now??
I do a bit of photography and have a colour corrected wide gamut monitor I use for retouching.
To my eyes, when looking at the same photography on both devices, the new colour temperature is much closer to 'correct' than the old one was. Not perfect but much more preferable to me.
so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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That is 100% correct. My girlfriend is a professional photographer and she even commented on how much better it looks.
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I know that when I first bought my Datacolor Spyder colorimeter to calibrate my monitor it took a while to get used to the results. Much less "in your face" than before, but much closer to natural.
I exchanged my first Nexus S because the screen was too blue/purple. The second one was slightly less purple. But the new color profile got rid of all the purpleness
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so maybe all the complaining people have been doing is just their eyes not used to what the screen "should" look like
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agree.... i think this might improve the battery life too.
google fixed ns's color too much...
though grey does not display as purple any more,white displays as a bit yellow now,what takes ns's sharp display away.
iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
I like the new colors it looks now great!!!
I noticed the colour difference immediately as well. It actually felt weird to me, I was really used to the purplish colour in the UI. Feels very grey. Not complaining though if this is how it should have been, but feels weird.
I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
The Crispness is gone. Whites are now yellowish. I am not a fan. I did a comparison with a friends NS side by side his with 2.3.2 and mine with 2.3.3. and there is a difference and 2.3.2. looked better. This could be "the correct color" as has been stated but that does not mean it looks better. I have never noticed a purplish tint before and even looking at my friends NS with 2.3.2. I still do not see it.
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I for one do not like the new colors. They look too washed out and gray.
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Same here. Looking at it again (2 Nexus S side by side) the one with 2.3.3 really seems washed out.
I did notice an occasional purplish tint on 2.3.2, but mostly from different viewing angles, less so when looking straight on at the screen. It never bothered me. The overall color scheme was also a bit cool, with more blues coming through. I've read that because blue LEDs in AMOLED screens wear out quicker, often they are overemphasized at first and will fade over time. I thought this might have been the explanation.
I definitely noticed a color change after updating to 2.3.3. At first it was very bothersome. The colors do seem to be washed out and the whites seem just a tad yellow. But I can see how this may be more accurate as the previous color scheme was overly cool. Maybe we tend to prefer a cooler color temperature. The new one will take some getting used to. Blue is a "comfort color" after all.
Blue appears brighter to the human eye despite the actual lumen output being similar. It's like those custom bulbs that some people like to put on their honda civics or whatever, the blue/purple looking ones. Yea they "look" bright but they actually output less light than the standard yellowish bulbs.
Anyway, being an avid photographer and spending hours tweaking my plasma TV's colors, warmer colors are more natural to the human eye and most people jack up the blues to make things look more contrasty or sharp, which in my opinion is too harsh and fake. Even the iPhone 4 screen is tinted blue to make whites appear brighter. Then again, some HTC screens are so red tinted it's ridiculous, so in the end, download the color calibration app and tweak it according to your liking.
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iv been using "voodoo" kernel w/ext4-voodoo sound & color :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
on modaco r11 "2.3.2" and the colors are awesome , i had the purple tint on dark gray areas but its all gone now .
can someone compare this with the colors on 2.3.3 ?
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i would say the voodoo fix isnt as "extreme" as 2.3.3
Hi I just bought a new sgs2.
And compared to my friend's one, it has yellowish tint (for all screen not just a part of the screen)
Don't have warranty and stuff. Is there like an app to change screen temperature?
(voodoo colour maybe?)
Coming from sgs1 user, I can't really say s-amoled is better
Anyone with yellow tint screen, please give me an advice...
Thanks
Search = Yellow Tint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
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JJEgan said:
Search = Yellow Tint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
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already did. they refer to yellow tint on the side only.
I have the same issue. My previous sgs2 had a yellow tint on the left side. I send it for repair and got the screen replaced. Now my whole screen is more yellowish, while my previous phone was more blueish (warm vs cold tint). I'm on KG1 now. The yellow left side is as good as gone though.
On 100% brightness the whites are really white, but below 60% the white and grey turn yellow.
I've searched for an app that allows you to change the color temperature but haven't found one. I've found a few that simply turn down brightness levels individually for R, G and B, but that doesn't work. Personally I'd like my phone's tint to be a bit cooler.
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On a yellow tinted phone, the whites only seem white till you compare it beside a phone with a higher color tone.. thats what I also experienced.
guess we just have to wait for speedmod colour fix or voodoo color..
Is that being developed? I would be more than happy to donate a few bucks to anyone who can deliver such an app.
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Have you tried changing in settings, Screen the 3 different configurations it has?. Try the fist one, i think it has too many saturation but whites are whiter (at least for my sight).
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Have you tried changing in settings, Screen the 3 different configurations it has?. Try the fist one, i think it has too many saturation but whites are whiter (at least for my sight).
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Tried dynamic but it was too sharp for my taste.
Ok well I would like to get peoples feedback and opinions on their screens.
My story. Broke my GNote II instead of paying to replace LCD decided to upgrade with my carrier.
First Note 3 I bought was bright with nice whites and great viewing angles. But it has the dreaded pinkinsh purple screen tint issue in the lower 3rd of the screen more so on the right side. This is subtle and is less evident in brighter conditions or higher screen brightness. At low brightness and in dark environments it is particularly visible on white and grey backgrounds. Went to store to exchange and they refused given they could not see the defect. I came online here searched around and it seems this has been an issue on the GS4 and people have mentioned it on the new Note 3.
Convinced my carrier to send me a replacement and I will return the original to them. Well got the replacement 3-4 days ago. The unit seems quite different. First off the screen is overall a bit more yellow at face on viewing angles and perhaps a hair less bright at similar settings though hard to tell. The bottom is not color shifted puple. The screen color is more homogenous. However the viewing angles are completely different. Here while the brightness stays goo dlike the first when angling the screen, the colors shift to a more aqua color with minor angle variation. (guessing 20-30*) whereas the original unit has virtually no color shift at almost 90*.
I probably have to send back a unit in the coming day or 2 and make a final decision. In theory I could try to ask for a third model, however it was with a lot of difficulty and threats to leave my carrier that they relented in the first replacement. SO I likely will have to stick with one of these or return both and use my somewhat broken note 2 and wait for something else.
I am wondering if any of you out here have similar pink/purple tint issues at one end of your screen. Or if you have issues with significant white color shift when angling your screen more than 30* in either portrait or landscape. Also if good or bad can you check build date on your phone (should be under battery). FInally did you or will you replace it? Was replacement better or worse?
Also if in my shoes would you go for the better looking screen with the pink issue or the more consistent looking screen that is a bit more blue yellow.
Thanks!
lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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I know you did and I posted some long posts there and the thread kind of died.
I have some specific questions here as well as asking what I should do in my case.
I had a note 2 and remember there being perseus kernel and with STweaks one could shift color etc and make it how you like. I am thinking going with the more uniform color model as I am sure the slight yellow tint can be corrected and the blue tint on viewing angles is no worse than my note 2 looking back so I will get used to it I imagine. That said the first screen really has great screen but the purplish pink right bottom corner bugs me on white and grey screens ( not noticeable on high brightness though) and often reading on websites etc indoors I notice it enough that it bugs me.....
So for anyone who cares here is an update on my plan. The more uniform note 3 is more yellow/green tinted whites compared to the other one that is whiter/redder. That said if I use one of these screen filter style apps that exist in the play store, I can modify the overall screen into however I like.
Downside is that it means a persistently running app to do it with whatever effect on screen longevity and battery.
Now on my Note 2 which is also yellower, I was running perseus kernel and the s tweaks app and was able at the kernel level to modify the color to get better whites. I imagine it is only a matter of time before someone can do that for our note 3. I can handle the viewing angle color shift as the device is in my hand and not on a table when i use it where it might be off angle viewing by a large amount. And even then, the tinting of white has a bluish shift and now worse than a yellowing shift my wifes iphone has off angle or my note 2 did.
Would love tohear from others and what their screens are like and or developers who might have the means of modifying color at kernel level the way Andreilux did on the note 2
I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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You checked 13 notes and 12 of them were either yellow tint or what gray lining issue?
How did you manage to check so many.
Can you check the following. Look at the phone screen face on the tilt either up down or side to side about 30 degrees and tell me if the white on the screen turns bluish.
One of my phones does this and has the yellower whites. The other does not and has better whites but has some purplish discoloration in the lower right part of the phone.
Any one here try a new kernel from the android development sections?
Some of them talk about being able to modify screen color. Am wondering if this can be a fix for my issues.